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but michael cohen is far from solid evidence. this guy by any prosecutor's standard, and i used to be deputy chief of the criminal division in the southern district of new york. i wouldn't have touched a guy like michael cohen, especially if he's a convicted perjurer, not to mention as i said the 50 to 100 lies he told us that are in those 330 e-mails. >> [ inaudible question ]. >> i can't say that. could you -- you just don't know. i can't read people's minds. i could see certainly a few of them were doing what you're doing right now, shaking your head up and down. but not everybody. so i just don't know. i would love for those people to watch tv or something tonight or just remember what i said and say to the prosecutors, listen, we'd like to see the rest of those e-mails. don't cherry-pick six e-mails out of 330 and then ask costello questions about it. that's not fair by anybody's standard. >> just to clarify, michael cohen paid stormy daniels with his own money, not at the behest of mr. trump? >> that's what he told us. >> t
but michael cohen is far from solid evidence. this guy by any prosecutor's standard, and i used to be deputy chief of the criminal division in the southern district of new york. i wouldn't have touched a guy like michael cohen, especially if he's a convicted perjurer, not to mention as i said the 50 to 100 lies he told us that are in those 330 e-mails. >> [ inaudible question ]. >> i can't say that. could you -- you just don't know. i can't read people's minds. i could see certainly...
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castella says that he met with michael cohen in 2018 after michael cohen's home and office was subject to a search warrant by the fbi, when michael cohen was shopping for a criminal defense lawyer and that michael cohen was in a legal panic at the time. >>ic a he was really files old, hethee looked like he hadn't slept in four or five days, and he just suddenly stopped in the middle of talking to someone pointed at us and said i want you guys to know, i will do whatever the f it takes, i will never spend one day in jail. he must have said that close to 20 times. this was his mantra, all day long. do you think a guy who has his mindset at that time, i -- shoot somebody, whatever it takes i am not going to jail? we went to jail. and now he is on the revenge tour. understand it, but i don't condone it. and that is why i went in there today to tell these people the truth about who the real michael cohen's, and what he was actually saying at that moment. >> mr. cartel stella said that michael cohen had signed a waiver with attorney client privilege in 2018 that allows him to now testify abo
castella says that he met with michael cohen in 2018 after michael cohen's home and office was subject to a search warrant by the fbi, when michael cohen was shopping for a criminal defense lawyer and that michael cohen was in a legal panic at the time. >>ic a he was really files old, hethee looked like he hadn't slept in four or five days, and he just suddenly stopped in the middle of talking to someone pointed at us and said i want you guys to know, i will do whatever the f it takes, i...
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because i want to know what corroboration there is from michael cohen. that's key, and we know that there is david pecker who will give corroboration i imagine for why these payments were made to stormy daniels and to karen macdougal because david pecker was part of conversations about them being part of campaign expenditures to help donald trump in his campaign, so david pecker is going to be critical people from the trump campaign like kellyanne conway and hope hicks will also be critical if they were involved in communications about those payments and can testify that they were to further donald trump's campaign interests. but i also want to know who from the trump organization has testimony and documents that will reflect how those payments were reflected in the business records of the trump organization, and for what purposes those records were used. john so a lot of things happening today. there will be a meeting today with the new york state court officers, the nypd that secret service to go through the mechanics of tuesday . there will also be a
because i want to know what corroboration there is from michael cohen. that's key, and we know that there is david pecker who will give corroboration i imagine for why these payments were made to stormy daniels and to karen macdougal because david pecker was part of conversations about them being part of campaign expenditures to help donald trump in his campaign, so david pecker is going to be critical people from the trump campaign like kellyanne conway and hope hicks will also be critical if...
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is it all about michael cohen? >> as it not all about michael cohen. after being outside the manhattan criminal court all week, it's clear, based on our conversations with sources, that the district attorney has documents in his possession that would be central to any case he eventually decides to mount, should it move in that direction, that it's not just about michael cohen's testimony. so often we hear about this case and we hear michael cohen's testimony would be the keystone for any sort of prosecution. it would certainly be critical but not the only component. >> do we have any details about what might be in those records? >> to build on rikki's point, we are hearing there are business records, e-mails, financial records, that district attorney has compiled, this is not just about bringing in michael cohen and bob costello, but we wonder who else is going to come in this week. we spoke to bob costello the final witness last night, and he told cbs news he does not expect to be called this week. >> bob costa, we'll continue to follow this story and
is it all about michael cohen? >> as it not all about michael cohen. after being outside the manhattan criminal court all week, it's clear, based on our conversations with sources, that the district attorney has documents in his possession that would be central to any case he eventually decides to mount, should it move in that direction, that it's not just about michael cohen's testimony. so often we hear about this case and we hear michael cohen's testimony would be the keystone for any...
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but cohen is telling a different story. do you trust michael cohen then or now? he admitted he lied in a court of law and pled guilty. that is what the bragg jury will have to answer. it's baffling right now when you consider that alvin bragg is famous for handing out plea deals like candy including reduced charges for rapists and robbers. he reduced 52% of every felony case to a misdemeanor including many that were caught on tape on camera. in other words, a slam dunk conviction. if trump is charged it would be the first and only case that bragg ramped up from misdemeanor to a felony that we know of. this seems risky for mr. bragg given he only gets a conviction in about half of the felony cases he tries. 49% of the time he charges somebody and has a trial, he loses 49% of the time. one of the lowest convictions rates in the entire u.s. and 17 points lower than the last d.a. bragg must like to lose. and campaign finance violations are typically charged at the federal level. the doj declined to bring any charges against trump. in 2018 a lawyer representing michae
but cohen is telling a different story. do you trust michael cohen then or now? he admitted he lied in a court of law and pled guilty. that is what the bragg jury will have to answer. it's baffling right now when you consider that alvin bragg is famous for handing out plea deals like candy including reduced charges for rapists and robbers. he reduced 52% of every felony case to a misdemeanor including many that were caught on tape on camera. in other words, a slam dunk conviction. if trump is...
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it seems they're relying heavily on michael cohen. we talked about the limitations that michael cohen provides. barb, if you are going to go after the former president of the united states from the outward appearance, does this look like a strong case, a winnable case, when it's this high stakes? >> well, of course we can't know the answer to that question until we see the charges themselves, but i would have to think that if you are alvin bragg, you are not going to bring a case unless you think the evidence is very strong. you know, there's the old adage if you come at the king, you best not miss. certainly no one is above the law. donald trump should not be held to a standard that's different from anyone else, but i think the stakes are higher, and i imagine that in a case like this, you take extra care to make sure that every t is crossed and every i is dotted. as you said, michael cohen appears to be a key witness in this case, because he is a convicted perjurer, i think a prudent prosecutor would do what alvin bragg appears to h
it seems they're relying heavily on michael cohen. we talked about the limitations that michael cohen provides. barb, if you are going to go after the former president of the united states from the outward appearance, does this look like a strong case, a winnable case, when it's this high stakes? >> well, of course we can't know the answer to that question until we see the charges themselves, but i would have to think that if you are alvin bragg, you are not going to bring a case unless...
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the fact thatfá michael cohen couldn't be trusted. what do you make of michael cohen as key witness in allfá og because he'st( lied. he lied to congress about trump hotel in moscow that he was trying to build. he plea80■ guilty toe1 qñthat. he hasn't beenÑi 100% truthful p that's something trump's lawyers are going tor assuming he'sxd indicted and if there comes a trial they'll be able to attack michael cohen's credibility and have concreteñrr examples. there's a lot of supporting evidence, there's the picture of them together, there's the fact surrogate. >> house speakerw3 mccarthy tod suggested that trump wasn't■óÑi trying to hide hisxd payments t stormy daniels. from your reporting, we know thatxd michael cohen first of a took out a home equity line of credit and then wired to stormy daniels lawyer and thenÑi wired( stormy daniels, is that right in. íók] yes. >> that seems like so%t trying tot(çó hide io%ething. >> yes. >> was itv down those payments? >>5a■ yeah, i mean, we had gott informationfá about the -- we0l
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the chief witness, michael cohen, is .a convicted felon. his own lawyer calls a unreliably dirt bag. so what's behind all this hatred? they tried to destroy cavanaugh triedbecause they wanted to kep the supreme court seat open. they're trying to destroy donald trump because they fear a him at the ballot box to the conservatives out there, maket sure you vote . if you got friends, make suret e they vote. if you don't have ands maky fri. go make some friends. but yobut you need to help this. donald j. trump, they're trying to drain him dry. he's spent more moneyspent n on lawyers than mostlarcen peope spend on campaigns. they're trying to bleed him drty . donald j. trump .com go to night, give the president some money to fight this. t this this bul is going to destroy dest america. we're going to fight back atame the ballotfi box. we're not going to give in. ho how does this end, sean?end? trump win in court and trump wins in court and he wins the election. that's how this wins. ends and how do you get to thirty four counts on this, in your v
the chief witness, michael cohen, is .a convicted felon. his own lawyer calls a unreliably dirt bag. so what's behind all this hatred? they tried to destroy cavanaugh triedbecause they wanted to kep the supreme court seat open. they're trying to destroy donald trump because they fear a him at the ballot box to the conservatives out there, maket sure you vote . if you got friends, make suret e they vote. if you don't have ands maky fri. go make some friends. but yobut you need to help this....
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this is from michael cohen's own lawyer to the fec. "in a private transaction in 2016 before the u.s. presidential election, mr. cohen used his own personal funds to facilitate a payment of $130,000 to ms. stephanie clifford, neither the trump organization nor the trump campaign was a party to the transaction with ms. clifford. is cohen lying under oath now or during that statement to the fec? now of course at the very center of the case is a completely legal, what's called an nda, over an alleged affair from 2007. there is zero evidence whatsoever that the trump campaign paid for this nda as a matter of fact, cohen says they did not. no evidence they played a role in the nda. in fact, there is no evidence that the affair in question ever took place. people can believe what they want, there is no evidence of it. according to the washington post of all places, stormy daniels denied the affair multiple times including in writing on january 30th, 2018. this is a letter obtained by tmz. take a look at your screen., "i am not denying this a
this is from michael cohen's own lawyer to the fec. "in a private transaction in 2016 before the u.s. presidential election, mr. cohen used his own personal funds to facilitate a payment of $130,000 to ms. stephanie clifford, neither the trump organization nor the trump campaign was a party to the transaction with ms. clifford. is cohen lying under oath now or during that statement to the fec? now of course at the very center of the case is a completely legal, what's called an nda, over an...
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s office that i had a lot of information on michael cohen, none of which was good for michael cohen. i saw him on tv making statements that donald trump directed this and donald trump directed that. that statement that you put up on the screen earlier and read from, from february of 2018, that is very similar to what michael cohen told myself and my law partner. it's not just one onone with me. it's two-on-one and we took notes. that statement from february of 2018 that you just read is very, very similar. except for the fact that in april of 2018 when we met with him, he was suicidal. the mine was beside himself. his apartment and his law office had been searched pursuant to a warrant by the fbi. he said to us that his world is over. his family life is destroyed, his business life is destroyed. he was absolutely destroyed. he looked like he hadn't slept in a couple days. then he told us, by the way, i was up on the roof, the weekend before, which i think was one or two days before, seriously considering jumping off the roof. when i heard that, i didn't know whether he was being a dr
s office that i had a lot of information on michael cohen, none of which was good for michael cohen. i saw him on tv making statements that donald trump directed this and donald trump directed that. that statement that you put up on the screen earlier and read from, from february of 2018, that is very similar to what michael cohen told myself and my law partner. it's not just one onone with me. it's two-on-one and we took notes. that statement from february of 2018 that you just read is very,...
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letter from motorcycle allingal cohen's attorney that i read and michael cohen's statement that echos that. third thing stormy danielle in writing admitting it was not hush money. yol here is the kicker even if everything they said was true. whatever version of truth. michael cohen is a walking contradiction incapable of telling the same story twice. >> i bet you are nervous. >> i'm horrified i will be so nervous. i modify to pay trump to do that instead of the other way. that guy is a pathological y. don't make that deal. he will hold me to that t. it is done. he has a need for media attention. pled guilt tow criminal conduct and not just the hush money thing pled gallon tow lito congress. liing to the banks in his taxi medallion fraud. you know now. yoom like low irs. so he's a pathological liar and you know he is now reborn. and he is on ms nbc and their big star. i wander about the fact that he is on ms nbc yet now say nothing his book he was only forced plead guilty he is not accepting responsible. i will have a fold day >> he pled guilty. he was saying he was forcing to plea gui
letter from motorcycle allingal cohen's attorney that i read and michael cohen's statement that echos that. third thing stormy danielle in writing admitting it was not hush money. yol here is the kicker even if everything they said was true. whatever version of truth. michael cohen is a walking contradiction incapable of telling the same story twice. >> i bet you are nervous. >> i'm horrified i will be so nervous. i modify to pay trump to do that instead of the other way. that guy...
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michael cohen. sure. the zombie case we it at times the zombie case, because it was a theory of prosecution and some potential crimes that were investigated put aside because legal or factual problems reinvestigated. so they were exhumed a and put aside for a variety of reasons, reexamined yet again and it kept returning from the grave so often that we started to it as the zombie theory. what it involved was the concealment of the reimbursement to michael cohen of the hush money that he had paid to stormy daniels. most people who have have followed the trump saga recall that it became public years ago, that michael cohen on, trump's behalf, had paid $130,000 to stormy daniels and her lawyer right before the election in. 2016. and at a time when she was threatening to expose her allegation that she had had an affair with donald trump, that was let's put i don't mean to interrupt. sure, but let's pause. you use the word threat. that's key to understanding your perception, the zombie case, because you
michael cohen. sure. the zombie case we it at times the zombie case, because it was a theory of prosecution and some potential crimes that were investigated put aside because legal or factual problems reinvestigated. so they were exhumed a and put aside for a variety of reasons, reexamined yet again and it kept returning from the grave so often that we started to it as the zombie theory. what it involved was the concealment of the reimbursement to michael cohen of the hush money that he had...
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well first off if i was michael cohen's attorney, or if i was michael cohen himself, you know, maybe there's a different decision as opposed to pleading guilty and going to prison if you feel like you're being wrongfully accused, while then you fight that charge and you have your day in court. i don't know what else was. you know? i don't know what we don't know about the michael cohen case, but what we know is that he pled guilty to those charges, and he went to prison for that. donald trump. president trump is deciding that he is going to fight these charges and he'll have his day in court and have the prosecution will have to prove their case. i think one of the other flaws in this situation is that with alvin bragg, he he's not someone who is a consistent law and order guy who is enforcing laws across the board. as a matter of fact, what he's received. a lot of criticism for is that his first day that he was in office, he put out a memo that said all these different laws across the board. prosecutors are not allowed to prosecute and all of these other offenses you have to charge.
well first off if i was michael cohen's attorney, or if i was michael cohen himself, you know, maybe there's a different decision as opposed to pleading guilty and going to prison if you feel like you're being wrongfully accused, while then you fight that charge and you have your day in court. i don't know what else was. you know? i don't know what we don't know about the michael cohen case, but what we know is that he pled guilty to those charges, and he went to prison for that. donald trump....
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and he was there to contradict michael cohen. and he said that he had told a number of people, apparently, about this difference. his view of michael cohen's testimony a while ago. and the very last night he mentioned all these names. the very last name one of the very last names he mentioned was dan goldman. he met with dan goldman monday and goldman was on the staff of a house committee, met with him about michael cohen and stormy daniels and that whole thing and so tonight is the night. >> tonight is the night. >> we get to ask dan goldman, what was that all about? >> i want to know. >> what did that guy mean? >> i want to know what other lawyers think. i would very much like to know what dan goldman has to tell you. >> that's what we're gonna find out in this hour. thank you alex. well don trump has made it through another day of his life without being indicted. it could be the last indictment free day of donald trump's life. and trump supporters have made it through another day of their lives without protesting for donald tr
and he was there to contradict michael cohen. and he said that he had told a number of people, apparently, about this difference. his view of michael cohen's testimony a while ago. and the very last night he mentioned all these names. the very last name one of the very last names he mentioned was dan goldman. he met with dan goldman monday and goldman was on the staff of a house committee, met with him about michael cohen and stormy daniels and that whole thing and so tonight is the night....
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as michael cohen is . this letter here is so devastating to their case because it is them representing to a federal agency, the fec, the federal election commission ,that this was done without any thought of the campaign. of course it wasn't. look, i've said this before. anything that they're saying, assuming was 100%. okay, cohen and bragge and all that, it still does not make it a crime. because there's no campaign finance law violation here at all. if you take michael cohen in his own words and you have an opportunity to cross-examine him or i see a lot of, you know, joy came right to old case. there will be no meat left on that bone. ketanji al tv. but you're dealing with a convicted felon, an admitted liar, a serial liar, okay? and he was charged and imprisoned as a result. okay, how does he become their star witness? it's funny, i don't know, because alan breg, only a couple of months ago, if you read pomerance book and if there's any truth to that book, they call the time because they call zombie. b
as michael cohen is . this letter here is so devastating to their case because it is them representing to a federal agency, the fec, the federal election commission ,that this was done without any thought of the campaign. of course it wasn't. look, i've said this before. anything that they're saying, assuming was 100%. okay, cohen and bragge and all that, it still does not make it a crime. because there's no campaign finance law violation here at all. if you take michael cohen in his own words...
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world and michael cohen. he was a legal adviser to cohe but not actually retained by him. he was trying to keep them i the fold of being loyal to the president, et cetera as michael cohen started t flirt with actually cooperatin with the prosecution instead gradually became disenchante with michael cohen and they ha a falling out. the trump camp evidently wants costello to go to the gran jury and attack the credibilit of michael cohen he is just a liar, he is makin stuff up it is up to the grand jury about whether they want to hea from mr. costello. they could choose not to if they choose to and he say some things about michael cohen, that is a win for th prosecution, they would avai themselves of the opportunit to have him come back an address whatever concern costello may have made we have a series of gifts here all this could happen or nothing could happen depending on what the grand jury wants t do >> charlie, on this, again, th new york times reporting o this, nbc news also reportin on this, castella wil
world and michael cohen. he was a legal adviser to cohe but not actually retained by him. he was trying to keep them i the fold of being loyal to the president, et cetera as michael cohen started t flirt with actually cooperatin with the prosecution instead gradually became disenchante with michael cohen and they ha a falling out. the trump camp evidently wants costello to go to the gran jury and attack the credibilit of michael cohen he is just a liar, he is makin stuff up it is up to the...
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michael cohen spent some time in jail for this exact thing. so you know my thoughts tonight are it's a somber moment. i think we should. there should be nobody in this country that is celebrating and indictment of former president. we've been a country that hasn't had that yet . it's embarrassing that we do have a president has that. but let's wait and see what the indictment actually looks like before we start jumping to conclusions about this being political. i mean, obviously, that's great advice. but could it be more than the stormy daniels hush money payments mean? in other words, what do you expect to be in there? well, i think what's going to be interesting and i don't know, because you know, it's not a case i have investigated but what is the link to the business? what did the president know? what did he know about covering up the payment because, by the way, number a number of members of congress have been indicted for campaign finance issues like it's not like this is nothing. so you know. yeah. sometimes you have a campaign finance
michael cohen spent some time in jail for this exact thing. so you know my thoughts tonight are it's a somber moment. i think we should. there should be nobody in this country that is celebrating and indictment of former president. we've been a country that hasn't had that yet . it's embarrassing that we do have a president has that. but let's wait and see what the indictment actually looks like before we start jumping to conclusions about this being political. i mean, obviously, that's great...
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cohen as a witness, i've gotten to know michael cohen. i respect the turnaround that he's made in his life, but we need to be clear about what's going to happen when he takes the stand. there is no avoiding the fact that michael cohen has been convicted of perjury has been convicted of financial fraud and tax fraud, having nothing to do with donald trump, by the way on his own. he did that there's no questioning the fact that michael cohen despises donald trump. michael cohen will not be a straight down the middle, impartial witness. he will be painted rightly as very biased against donald trump. also michael cohen has said publicly to the media and to the federal government that there was nothing illegal about these hush money payments that they were not designed to interfere with the election. this was when he was working for trump. he is now going to have to take that back and say it was a lie, and finally, wolf. let's remember the united states department of justice after michael cohen's so called turnaround rejected him as a cooperat
cohen as a witness, i've gotten to know michael cohen. i respect the turnaround that he's made in his life, but we need to be clear about what's going to happen when he takes the stand. there is no avoiding the fact that michael cohen has been convicted of perjury has been convicted of financial fraud and tax fraud, having nothing to do with donald trump, by the way on his own. he did that there's no questioning the fact that michael cohen despises donald trump. michael cohen will not be a...
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thank you very much we do want to bring in michael cohen. michael. thank you so much for being here with us. don and i obviously have a lot of questions for you. as do the american people have you back together? we appreciate you joining us. what a day. it is for you today. and so this took a lot of people by surprise, including the amount of charges against former president so this is expected to be a 34 count indictment. 34 felony charges. do you understand why so many? yes i understand. i can't go in and i can't discuss it. however 34 is a pretty significant number. it certainly goes well past the stormy daniels. hush money payments are some of these because you received multiple payments again. i can't go into any of the specifics of this case. it's just not right to due to the prosecutors. this is their case, one of the things that i continues to say is that at the end of the day, there is a presumption of innocence. since and you know we do have to respect the due process clause and this case will ultimately be known to all of us. we will have
thank you very much we do want to bring in michael cohen. michael. thank you so much for being here with us. don and i obviously have a lot of questions for you. as do the american people have you back together? we appreciate you joining us. what a day. it is for you today. and so this took a lot of people by surprise, including the amount of charges against former president so this is expected to be a 34 count indictment. 34 felony charges. do you understand why so many? yes i understand. i...
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cohen say and then inches up to the jury to decid beyond a reasonable doubt. >> have your michael cohen being contacted, today, by the manhattan da's office? >> i cannot tell you about those contacts i can't tell you the answe that i will say that in the recen days i was struck by the level of detail of the questions and answers that michael had t provide, down to the nitty-gritty granular level. these folks have exactly wha you said alvin bragg is not bringin this case without huge amounts of corroboration and everybody who is speculating about it is a weak case, it is a bad case, it should not -- >> it has not even bee unsealed yet >> exactly they do not know, and the lega question i just want to say, this is not been done before i all of the issues with federal versus a state, they hav several state laws that, wit these facts, a judge is no going to deprive the jury of a verdict because of a legal argument there are state laws that have been violated, and we will see if this judge agrees with me but in, any case the facts are very strong. a jury could decide beyond reasonable doubt >
cohen say and then inches up to the jury to decid beyond a reasonable doubt. >> have your michael cohen being contacted, today, by the manhattan da's office? >> i cannot tell you about those contacts i can't tell you the answe that i will say that in the recen days i was struck by the level of detail of the questions and answers that michael had t provide, down to the nitty-gritty granular level. these folks have exactly wha you said alvin bragg is not bringin this case without huge...
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and that is what michael cohen to jail. so that's my district about okay, but the southern district passed right. i mean, they said that this was trivial, according to elie honig book and he broke it. they passed on taking the case that alvin bragg is gonna now prosecute. elie honig is inaccurate. he's making that up . there was no quote. then why didn't the then why didn't the feds why i have to ask this? why didn't the feds prosecute for these same facts? trump because he was an incumbent president. let me repeat that. how about when he got out? how about when he got out? prosecutors never once suggested that they didn't have a case against mr trump. in fact, they declared they had the same case against trump they did against cohen. they said that trump instructed cohen to pay hush money, but they couldn't prosecute that he was incumbent president. in fact, they called him and he he's not. he's not the president. now he's not the president. now. surely they took a look at him when he got out of office. so you're absolutel
and that is what michael cohen to jail. so that's my district about okay, but the southern district passed right. i mean, they said that this was trivial, according to elie honig book and he broke it. they passed on taking the case that alvin bragg is gonna now prosecute. elie honig is inaccurate. he's making that up . there was no quote. then why didn't the then why didn't the feds why i have to ask this? why didn't the feds prosecute for these same facts? trump because he was an incumbent...
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we know michael cohen and alan weisberg. we're handling the books, but the trick for prosecutors is going to be tying donald trump directly to that, and to that end, it appears michael cohen will be the prosecutor. ocean star witness here. michael cohen , on the one hand had access. he was right in the middle of all this. on the other hand, he is going to be eminently impeachable. his credibility will be very much in question. he's been convicted of perjury of other frauds. he has been rejected as a cooperating witness by the u. s department of justice. he tried to cooperate, they said. we don't believe him. now. it may well be, it seems clear. the da has reached a contrary conclusion on michael cohen. but if and when this case gets to trial, and we're far away off, michael cohen is going to be a key witness. nothing is assured. nothing is a slam dunk and let me read the statement from michael cohen, trump's former fixer and lawyer that he just released for the first time in our country's history, a president current or form
we know michael cohen and alan weisberg. we're handling the books, but the trick for prosecutors is going to be tying donald trump directly to that, and to that end, it appears michael cohen will be the prosecutor. ocean star witness here. michael cohen , on the one hand had access. he was right in the middle of all this. on the other hand, he is going to be eminently impeachable. his credibility will be very much in question. he's been convicted of perjury of other frauds. he has been rejected...
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so i don't know if he's the most reliable. >> michael. cohen >> yes michael cohen. and i think you have to get into it and intent type of thing, did he do it because he was concerned about the election or did he just not want this to come out? did he not want his wife to know that he cheated on her or something like that? it feels like it's hard to prove and it's not very high stakes. >> i don't want to be dismissive to your point norm. a violation of the law ought to be treated as anyone else who may violated that same law. we know that's not how our system works. people turn a blind eye more readily for some other than others. but the idea priorities and how this plays out in the court of public opinion. do you think that this case could be used if they do indict for trump to buttress his own arguments? saying see, they won't try anything. >> liberal democratic lydia coming after me. of course that's what he'll say. yes, trump will say that. here's -- what to the other republicans say? they have to defend trump. desantis will say this is political prosecution. hal
so i don't know if he's the most reliable. >> michael. cohen >> yes michael cohen. and i think you have to get into it and intent type of thing, did he do it because he was concerned about the election or did he just not want this to come out? did he not want his wife to know that he cheated on her or something like that? it feels like it's hard to prove and it's not very high stakes. >> i don't want to be dismissive to your point norm. a violation of the law ought to be...
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michael cohen spent some time in jail for this exact thing. so you know my thoughts tonight are it's a somber moment. i think we should. there should be nobody in this country that is celebrating an indictment of former president we've been a country that hasn't had that yet . it's embarrassing that we do have a president has that. but let's wait and see what the indictment actually looks like before we start jumping to conclusions about this being political. i mean, obviously, that's great advice. but could it be more than the stormy daniels hush money payments? in other words, what do you expect to be in there? well, i think what's going to be interesting and i don't know, because you know, it's not a case i have investigated but what is the link to the business? what did the president know? what did he know about covering up the payment because, by the way, number a number of members of congress have been indicted for campaign finance issues like it's not like this is nothing. so you know. yeah. sometimes you have a campaign finance violati
michael cohen spent some time in jail for this exact thing. so you know my thoughts tonight are it's a somber moment. i think we should. there should be nobody in this country that is celebrating an indictment of former president we've been a country that hasn't had that yet . it's embarrassing that we do have a president has that. but let's wait and see what the indictment actually looks like before we start jumping to conclusions about this being political. i mean, obviously, that's great...
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mich diaed i have more credibility than michael cohen? . i sp because michael cohen, inec my opinion, was lying about just about everythind g. i specifically told them that there were two main points thath i wanted to make clear , thate u cohen had told us that wheicn we first met him that he was suicidal. why is that important? because when you're suicidal, thinking that that's the onlyyo' way out ofre your legal messcoor and you're presented with the following options that you canep and provide information that corroborate, cooperate against donald trump and provide informatiowould gen that would u a get out of jail free card and you risk pond to us.s, i do not have any informationd t on donald trump. and he said it many time msanugo during that two hour meetingut i swear to god, bob , i don't have anything on donald trump. and i had my law partner who knew michael cohen for ten years on columbia grammar and prep school here in manhattan because cohen was on the board of directoranhatta and when i heard him say that he was suicidal, the w
mich diaed i have more credibility than michael cohen? . i sp because michael cohen, inec my opinion, was lying about just about everythind g. i specifically told them that there were two main points thath i wanted to make clear , thate u cohen had told us that wheicn we first met him that he was suicidal. why is that important? because when you're suicidal, thinking that that's the onlyyo' way out ofre your legal messcoor and you're presented with the following options that you canep and...
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for you, michael cohen isn't needed in this case. all these pundits and pontificators and lawyers who are speaking on tv, especially on another rival network, have no clue what the evidence is in this case. i'm in the room. i know what the evidence is. they don't so they're speculating, and they have no idea that this case is surrounded by documents, evidence, and facts. i think this case is extremely strong i hear people say it's a weak case it's because they have no clue, no facts they're just speculating >> you mentioned mr. berman. and you did mention that he has this chapter in his book where he talks about getting a call from william barr, who we do know was acting as a fixer for donald trump and as attorney general at the same time but what you said sound like you're alleging some intimidation tactics against mr. berman and maybe against mr. cohen as well. >> no question that mr. berman wrote that in the book he waited a little long to talk about what was basically criminal obstruction of justice, even if the attorney general
for you, michael cohen isn't needed in this case. all these pundits and pontificators and lawyers who are speaking on tv, especially on another rival network, have no clue what the evidence is in this case. i'm in the room. i know what the evidence is. they don't so they're speculating, and they have no idea that this case is surrounded by documents, evidence, and facts. i think this case is extremely strong i hear people say it's a weak case it's because they have no clue, no facts they're...
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michael cohen plead guilty eons ago, went to prison. and so, the idea that there's this -- i get it, that it's hard to convict somebody who has a huge number of people in the country that believe his lies, i get that, because criminal verdicts have to be unanimous, but the law is either going to apply to everybody or it's not, and six years is a really long time >> yeah, i mean, tim, i guess -- i don't get it i don't get -- let me read this again, because i forgot how black and white this was at the time during the campaign, michael cohen played a central role in two similar schemes to purchase the rights to stories each from women who claimed to have had an affair with individual one, donald trump as to suppress the stories and thereby prevent them from influencing the election with respect to both payments, michael cohen acted with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election. cohen coordinated his actions with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings and phone calls about the fact, nature of the payme
michael cohen plead guilty eons ago, went to prison. and so, the idea that there's this -- i get it, that it's hard to convict somebody who has a huge number of people in the country that believe his lies, i get that, because criminal verdicts have to be unanimous, but the law is either going to apply to everybody or it's not, and six years is a really long time >> yeah, i mean, tim, i guess -- i don't get it i don't get -- let me read this again, because i forgot how black and white this...
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there is also incredible factual problems with relying on a witness like michael cohen. talking about a being convicted perjurer who probably purr jerried perjuredhimself in frond jury. >> bret: if there are that many counts or if there are many, would the d.a. go down this road with michael cohen being the only true witness in all of this if to your point? wouldn't there have to be something else to get to this point of such an historic move? >> i think he is at least shrewd enough to say and cohen is saying this on tv it's more than michael cohen. there is corroboration. the substantiating point is a fundamental shift in criminal justice in the united states which is prosecutors are supposed to start off judicious. they are supposed to go where the evidence leads them? that's the rule of law. when you have political prosecutors that announce i'm going to go after donald trump, it's absolutely fair game to think that they will just get in bed with anyone, including someone like michael cohen to pursue the political agenda. it's really a different world we're living in b
there is also incredible factual problems with relying on a witness like michael cohen. talking about a being convicted perjurer who probably purr jerried perjuredhimself in frond jury. >> bret: if there are that many counts or if there are many, would the d.a. go down this road with michael cohen being the only true witness in all of this if to your point? wouldn't there have to be something else to get to this point of such an historic move? >> i think he is at least shrewd enough...
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and michael cohen, michael cohen, michael cohen is that guy. but we've all known for about a long time that if there's a prosecution, the defense will stand on the idea that michael cohen as a liar and a fraudster. and of course, the prosecution will use michael cohen likely do while cooperating with witnesses, and say, okay he may be a criminal, but it takes a criminal to catch a criminal. but beyond michael cohen, this case will be a document case. and it's true there are checks made out to michael cohen, but they are made out to michael cohen, which may bolster trump's argument that in fact it was just doing what his lawyer told him to do and paid his lawyer directly. and joe tacopina is right and that michael cohen did go in and plead guilty, and did testify to the state that the payments were made to save trump and his family harm. and he is right, under federal election law, as long as that one reason is there, he may not even matter that there are additional reasons -- helping the campaign. so, if you had family embarrassment, that trump
and michael cohen, michael cohen, michael cohen is that guy. but we've all known for about a long time that if there's a prosecution, the defense will stand on the idea that michael cohen as a liar and a fraudster. and of course, the prosecution will use michael cohen likely do while cooperating with witnesses, and say, okay he may be a criminal, but it takes a criminal to catch a criminal. but beyond michael cohen, this case will be a document case. and it's true there are checks made out to...
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michael cohen is the key witness in this investigation. he was donald trump's former lawyer and fixer, the one who paid that initial $130,000 to stormy daniels, and yet, as the u.s. attorney's office in the southern district of new york laid out in its own case against michael cohen in 2018, they repeatedly noted that he had a pattern of deception. that over the course of years he had consistently lied at the benefit of not only donald trump but also himself. he also was found guilty as part of his plea agreement in 2018 to lying to congress in 2017. even a judge in march of 2020 rejected his plea to have his sentencing reduced saying that after his initial sentencing that he had continued to offer misleading and false statements. all of that said, michael cohen pushes back hard against this, essentially making the case that he since then, since his guilty plea has testified hundreds of hours under oath to the new york attorney general's office, to the manhattan district attorney's office, to the special counselor, robert mueller's probe.
michael cohen is the key witness in this investigation. he was donald trump's former lawyer and fixer, the one who paid that initial $130,000 to stormy daniels, and yet, as the u.s. attorney's office in the southern district of new york laid out in its own case against michael cohen in 2018, they repeatedly noted that he had a pattern of deception. that over the course of years he had consistently lied at the benefit of not only donald trump but also himself. he also was found guilty as part of...
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cohen, with michael cohen's -- his other lawyers that hav been involved. i'm not sure that she would be the one to come in i think she can add a lot to the trial. i think they called he initially just see what sh would say. and previously she has met wit attorneys from the distric attorney's office. but i think they've called i the main people that they want to have that i think the wanted the grand jury to hea already. >> all right, panels, th ground we have a lot more to brea down our coverage continues after a quick break. don't go anywhere. the more times you wash them. downy protects fibers, doing more than detergent alone. see? this one looks brand new. saves me money? i'm starting to like downy. downy saves loads. research shows people remember ads with a catchy song. so to help you remember that liberty mutual customizes your home insurance, here's a little number you'll never forget. did you know that liberty mutual custo— ♪ liberty mutual. ♪ ♪ only pay for what you need. ♪ ♪ only pay for what you need. ♪ ♪ custom home insurance cr
cohen, with michael cohen's -- his other lawyers that hav been involved. i'm not sure that she would be the one to come in i think she can add a lot to the trial. i think they called he initially just see what sh would say. and previously she has met wit attorneys from the distric attorney's office. but i think they've called i the main people that they want to have that i think the wanted the grand jury to hea already. >> all right, panels, th ground we have a lot more to brea down our...
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cohen who is going to be on your show in a little bit, and they put michael cohen in jail for the same stuff, and the justice department when they did that, they filed a sentencing memo, and in writing, it says this was a crime and it was directed at not michael cohen coming up with this on his own, but donald trump was the one who ordered cohen to do this and that was not just -- that was the u.s. justice department, but not the barack obama or merrick garland justice department that was the trump justice department that made that conclusion when you hear lindsey graham and others talking about this being political and stuff, you know, it's a little hard given what the trump justice department said in 2018 my bottom line on this is very similar to joyce's, which is we haven't seen the charges lindsey graham hasn't seen the charges so not sure exactly how he knows what's in them, but whatever those charges are, trump is going to be entitled to all of the protections of the criminal system which our founders bent over backwards to protect criminal defendants, all 12 jurors are going to
cohen who is going to be on your show in a little bit, and they put michael cohen in jail for the same stuff, and the justice department when they did that, they filed a sentencing memo, and in writing, it says this was a crime and it was directed at not michael cohen coming up with this on his own, but donald trump was the one who ordered cohen to do this and that was not just -- that was the u.s. justice department, but not the barack obama or merrick garland justice department that was the...
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i think it's clear he needs michael cohen and he's going to rely on michael cohen. and as i said, john, that's a risky proposition. regardless of whether one may think michael cohen has turned himself around and i believe he has we heard earlier a clip of his lawyer saying this was entirely a personal payment and had nothing to do with contribution. you know who else who said that, michael cohen to the ftc. he'll have to explain why hut he said back then was a lie and why he should be believed. difficult jury to put in front of a witness of 12 average citizens. >> how likely is an indictment here? >> it seems very likely given the stage ware at, given michael cohen seems tuesday be one of the final witnesses and the d.a. has given donald trump now essentially his last chance to go into the grand jury. so i do think it's quite likely bordering uncertain we'll see an indictment soon. but i'll stress this every time i talk about the possibility of an indictment of donald trump, an indictment and conviction are two very important things. >> and one book related question
i think it's clear he needs michael cohen and he's going to rely on michael cohen. and as i said, john, that's a risky proposition. regardless of whether one may think michael cohen has turned himself around and i believe he has we heard earlier a clip of his lawyer saying this was entirely a personal payment and had nothing to do with contribution. you know who else who said that, michael cohen to the ftc. he'll have to explain why hut he said back then was a lie and why he should be believed....
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so they refer to michael cohen. the fixer. and so -- >> which is just three days after his story is broken. >> so this timing, the fact that she had tried to sell it for all these years and couldn't, but only now three days after access hollywood, a month before the election, trump now is willing to buy this story. that's what prosecutors will argue makes it a campaign finance violation because that shows that it was related to his campaign and not just to protect his wife or something like that. >> but was her assumption that they were going to publish this story? she didn't know at the time, her and her agent, they were buying the story to kill it to not let it be published? >> stormy knew what she was doing. >> she knew they were buying it and wasn't going to become public. >> she basically wanted to make money off this, at least to get some benefit because she felt she had been cheated after he promised her to put her on "the apprentice" and never did. >> what's at the heart of this? cohen pays her the $130,000. he has a s
so they refer to michael cohen. the fixer. and so -- >> which is just three days after his story is broken. >> so this timing, the fact that she had tried to sell it for all these years and couldn't, but only now three days after access hollywood, a month before the election, trump now is willing to buy this story. that's what prosecutors will argue makes it a campaign finance violation because that shows that it was related to his campaign and not just to protect his wife or...
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he was signed by michael cohen to represent him then he got his release to speak openly about michael cohen he did it yesterday. he reported afterwards. listen. >> i listened to michael cohen stand in front of the court house and say things that are directly contrary to what he said to us. my obligation is to bring the truth to both the district attorney and to trump's lawyers. that's exactly what i did. if they want to go after donald trump and they have solid evidence, so be it. but michael cohen is far from solid evidence. >> brian: did that bother you as well? >> this is why it's called a zombie case. multiple prosecutors have looked at this both at the doj level. this office. he previously declined to prosecute this case. and now it's back before us. why is that? what is the intervening action? the only thing that has changed is president donald trump has declared he is running for president of the united states. that's what is concerning to me and to others is that this appears to be politically motivated it is why we are asking the questions. my priority is to make sure people
he was signed by michael cohen to represent him then he got his release to speak openly about michael cohen he did it yesterday. he reported afterwards. listen. >> i listened to michael cohen stand in front of the court house and say things that are directly contrary to what he said to us. my obligation is to bring the truth to both the district attorney and to trump's lawyers. that's exactly what i did. if they want to go after donald trump and they have solid evidence, so be it. but...
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between michael cohen and robert costello. look, michael cohen is a first amendment right. he's absolutely key player in this, but it could also be a key witness in the prosecution of the former president. doing this great. get by the way, great interview for him. i have a feeling he's gonna get a call for prosecutors today. this is what his attorney says lenny davis. says that you may think of him as a key witness. but there are three or four people who will back up what he says. so therefore, as you said, it's his first amendment right to be able to talk about this so he doesn't see it as a big deal or detrimental to the case that michael cohen is out doing interviews is naive. preposterous it's ridiculous. i can imagine that you just said the district attorney's office must be livid. you don't start singing and showing your anger and being glib helps build your credibility and keep a consistent story because the more you talk and the more you say, the more there is chance that you're going to say something that's going to come back and bite that case, and that's not what
between michael cohen and robert costello. look, michael cohen is a first amendment right. he's absolutely key player in this, but it could also be a key witness in the prosecution of the former president. doing this great. get by the way, great interview for him. i have a feeling he's gonna get a call for prosecutors today. this is what his attorney says lenny davis. says that you may think of him as a key witness. but there are three or four people who will back up what he says. so therefore,...
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if you go back a few s yearsof, go and look at the clips of michael cohen on tv. donald trump was the greatesthan thined g that ever happenedse he is to this country. you know, now, of course, he's singing a different tune because he's trying to sell a book and he's on a revenge tour. i think that's the name thison book.o is you know, the guy is a pathological liar, someone who's been convicted of lying f in many forms. according to this letter, according to this letter, hemit now has another form. he lied through the fec, the federal election committee e . so he is in the least credible i human being in the world. so to build the case over himlit and i'm a former prosecutor, you would never take someone like that and build the case.brg as a matter of fact,nvisio alan briggs said a few months go . i can't envision a world wherea i would bring a casen th on the word of michael cohen against donald trump. something happened in those con two months where somebody yoalu did something to this guy to make him consider doing something is politically suicidal. is this thi
if you go back a few s yearsof, go and look at the clips of michael cohen on tv. donald trump was the greatesthan thined g that ever happenedse he is to this country. you know, now, of course, he's singing a different tune because he's trying to sell a book and he's on a revenge tour. i think that's the name thison book.o is you know, the guy is a pathological liar, someone who's been convicted of lying f in many forms. according to this letter, according to this letter, hemit now has another...
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>> specifically, we don't know how costello will attack what it is that michael cohen is saying about these payments. the oddity i see here, andrea, is the choice by donald trump and his team to have costello go into the grand jury. one of the key advantages that the defense has in a criminal case is surprise, and the idea that they're taking a witness who would provide important trial testimony that is sort of unknown to the government, is they're actually giving the government advance notice because they will actually get to hear what he has to say now, and they can prepare for it and potentially undermine it. so it's a curious choice, unless they thought that costello, either, a, needed to be locked in, they weren't sure whether costello would be there at the end of the day, or that his evidence is so incredibly powerful that it could avoid the possibility of an indictment. the latter seems quite unlikely, because the standard for a grand jury presentation is just probable cause. in other words, the grand jury is to find, is there probable cause that a crime was committed and that
>> specifically, we don't know how costello will attack what it is that michael cohen is saying about these payments. the oddity i see here, andrea, is the choice by donald trump and his team to have costello go into the grand jury. one of the key advantages that the defense has in a criminal case is surprise, and the idea that they're taking a witness who would provide important trial testimony that is sort of unknown to the government, is they're actually giving the government advance...
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from michael cohen. i want to add that his attorney, uh, lanny davis just issued a statement as well, saying that cohen made the brave decision to speak truth to power and accept the consequences. and he has done so ever since. i'm proud to be his lawyer and his friend, and so you know, this has been a long journey for michael cohen. he did go to jail. ah as an attorney. he's talking here about presumption of innocence. um, which you know, michael cohen does not like donald trump in any way, shape or form. so you know, i think he's trying to say look, you know he's got to go through what i went through. he's he's got a he's got to go to a trial. he's got to be convicted or not convicted and, you know, i think from michael cohen, um this is a certain amount of vindication. i would have to say, but again, we don't know what the indictment is. we don't know what it says. and of course, donald trump has been denying this affair was stormy daniels so we'll have to see what what his response is and how he make
from michael cohen. i want to add that his attorney, uh, lanny davis just issued a statement as well, saying that cohen made the brave decision to speak truth to power and accept the consequences. and he has done so ever since. i'm proud to be his lawyer and his friend, and so you know, this has been a long journey for michael cohen. he did go to jail. ah as an attorney. he's talking here about presumption of innocence. um, which you know, michael cohen does not like donald trump in any way,...
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michael cohen is he said that donald trump knew what he was paying for and knew that michael cohen, his lawyer, was doing it on his behalf we'll get into the evidence he could be presenting to the jury in a moment. we also have an answer from donald trump's lawyers about whether he, donald trump, will accept his own invitation from da alvin bragg to also sit for the grand jury. >> we have no plans on participating in that proceeding it's a decision that needs to be made still, no deadline has been set so we'll wait and see. >> whether he speaks or not is almost secondary right now, the fact he got the invitation at all signals to some lawyers a decision on charges, a decision on charges, is likely coming so if he is charged, what happens next not just logistically like what are the charges and does he turn himself in but politically. do charges help him or hurt him with gop voters? trump will be in iowa today, are the crowds still showing up to see him? we have a reporter on the ground, and donald trump's opponents are watching closely as well. including former vice president mike pence
michael cohen is he said that donald trump knew what he was paying for and knew that michael cohen, his lawyer, was doing it on his behalf we'll get into the evidence he could be presenting to the jury in a moment. we also have an answer from donald trump's lawyers about whether he, donald trump, will accept his own invitation from da alvin bragg to also sit for the grand jury. >> we have no plans on participating in that proceeding it's a decision that needs to be made still, no deadline...
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a few months ago, he would not have trusted michael cohen for anything. there is no world -- >> joe tacopina, why would anyone trust cohen? the man is convicted of perjury and lying to congress. now, all of a sudden there is as problem with donald trump. joe tacopina, i must tell you, this is making america a banana republican of the term of our system and inequity that's going on. stay in touch with us and let us know what you hear in this and whether or not this will go forward. yyou yy yyou senses that it will? >> i still hope. i hope that some sort of sanity is going to -- i am holding out hope that justice will prevail. if it happens, there is no charge. it is a case that'll die. this will be a lasting stay on the legacy. they won't play this case, i promise you that. they'll not win this case. we'll win it on the law and the facts and wherever we go, we'll win this case. >> joe tacopina, thank you so much for joining us tonight. >>> the past several years, new york county have been busy investigating every aspect of donald trump's life. the old sovi
a few months ago, he would not have trusted michael cohen for anything. there is no world -- >> joe tacopina, why would anyone trust cohen? the man is convicted of perjury and lying to congress. now, all of a sudden there is as problem with donald trump. joe tacopina, i must tell you, this is making america a banana republican of the term of our system and inequity that's going on. stay in touch with us and let us know what you hear in this and whether or not this will go forward. yyou yy...
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>> michael cohen was on standby and called as a rebuttal witness and he was not at least as of yesterday. one thing to play off here is that the grand jury could ask for additional witnesses, and they are a working body and they can request for additional information and their work is continuing, and we are waiting for the d.a.'s office if they are going to move forward with a indictment or not. if they choose the go forward they will ask the grand jury to vote on it, a then there is some decision, and the indictment is made public and trump's team is going to be notified. but as of now, we are waiting to see how is it going to play out, and if the grand jury is waiting for any other witnesses or testimony, or if the prosecutors want to add another witness or two into the mix, but it seems that at most of the point most of the people who have touched the hush money, the people from the campaign, and the trump campaign, and michael cohen, and all of the people who have met with the prosecutors or the grand jury, so there is not a lot of others out there that you can think of who they woul
>> michael cohen was on standby and called as a rebuttal witness and he was not at least as of yesterday. one thing to play off here is that the grand jury could ask for additional witnesses, and they are a working body and they can request for additional information and their work is continuing, and we are waiting for the d.a.'s office if they are going to move forward with a indictment or not. if they choose the go forward they will ask the grand jury to vote on it, a then there is some...
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he said you have to ask michael cohen. rudy giuliani went on fox news and said trump reimbursed michael cohen for this payment. trump does not part ways with money. i think that is such an important part here. >> but didn't the attorney -- the attorney, the whoun is representing him at least speaking for him on television, people don't like to be called that on tv attorneys, i thought it was a compliment. apparently someone took issue with saying that. but didn't he admit sort of that donald trump knew about it and that in this interview on another network and in a sense lied about it because he didn't want to break the agreement? >> yeah. kaitlan is right. that's a good piece of evidence for the prosecution. the fact that on air force one he denied he knew about it. we know he knew about it. the response from the lawyer is he felt like he was bound by this nondisclosure agreement. the better answer there is he denied making this payment for the same reason he made the payment in the first place. he was trying to avoid per
he said you have to ask michael cohen. rudy giuliani went on fox news and said trump reimbursed michael cohen for this payment. trump does not part ways with money. i think that is such an important part here. >> but didn't the attorney -- the attorney, the whoun is representing him at least speaking for him on television, people don't like to be called that on tv attorneys, i thought it was a compliment. apparently someone took issue with saying that. but didn't he admit sort of that...
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of michael cohen. does it help michael cohen stha says he's the guy that knows about it. >> it helps the case. that's a valuable piece of evidence for prosecutors because you show a jury. here's donald trump. he's lying right here. he's saying he does thot know about these payments. we know for sure that he knows about them. there's a separate question to criminal intent, but it shows he's trying to cover something up. i want to be clear. i do not think the prosecution's case is overwhelming or a slam dunk or a smoking gun, but they have a case. i did some reporting on the deliberations behind the scenes at the southern district of new york. two years ago they were considering this same pattern trying to decide whether to charge donald trump. the consensus among prosecutors was that there was enough evidence to charge. some felt it was close to the line. others felt it was beyond that. this case does have some proof issues. it's scouring president trump's personal for years. in search for crime needs t
of michael cohen. does it help michael cohen stha says he's the guy that knows about it. >> it helps the case. that's a valuable piece of evidence for prosecutors because you show a jury. here's donald trump. he's lying right here. he's saying he does thot know about these payments. we know for sure that he knows about them. there's a separate question to criminal intent, but it shows he's trying to cover something up. i want to be clear. i do not think the prosecution's case is...