>> i agree. >> take care of yourself, dear friend, please. >> tucker: changes that have not taken place in 100 years. speaking about american preeminence in the world. u.s. dollar and the peace we guaranteed. it's all gone. thanks to joe biden. see you tomorrow. sean hannity. >> sean: i have a group of people. what do you want to say to tucker? >> [shouting]. >> sean: there you go. welcome to "hannity." back with a live audience. kevin o'leary will be here tonight to discuss the latest interest rate hike and the sorry state of joe biden's economy. it's only wednesday, but our cognitively impaired commander-in-chief has managed

to embarrass himself probably half a dozen times. all of the low lights straight ahead. we have a really really big announcement at the end of the show. i told the audience here. they are not allowed to text it out. now good is the announcement? >> [cheering]. >> sean: all right. our top story. former president trump was not indicted today. this morning's grand jury proceedings in new york city were cancelled. there is now major dissention at the district attorney's office and one source told fox news that bragg is having trouble convincing a grand jury to charges because of the weakness of the case and what a spectacular -- think about

this. the grand jury, the defense doesn't get a say in a grand jury proceeding. nothing. they have zero opportunity to present their side at all. that's where you get the saying you could indict a ham sandwich. this is a weak case. maybe the weakest. ever brought before a grand jury. this is alvin bragg campaigning on a promise to go after one man, trump, one company, the trump company, and one family. the trump family. watch. >> a lot of people are wondering whatever has this job, are they going to convict donald trump? look, that is the number 1 issue. i am the candidate in the race who has experience with donald trump. i was the chief department in attorney general's office. we sued the trump administration

over 100 times. that's the most high-profile case. i have seen the lawlessness he could can do. >> you believe it should happen? >> we have to hold him accountable. >> sean: that's not justice -- that's a promise of a political persecution. here is what bragg is trying to do: take a simple misdemeanor case over a mislabeled transaction that is 2 years outside of the statute of limitations and ramp it up to a chargeable felony by tieing in a rarely charged campaign finance violation that so many other people passed on because of a completely legal nondisclosure agreement from 7 years ago. i would like to know how many nda's are in the manhattan

d.a.'s office in the years before bragg got into office? the case depends on testimony from a convicted felon. a tax cheat and admitted liar by the name of michael cohen. he is the d.a.'s star witness. here is michael cohen's former legal advisor bob last night on this show. >> during that first 2 hour meeting michael cohen who was pacing back and forth would suddenly stop in the middle of what he was talking about and turn and point his finger at us and say i want you guys to understand i will do whatever the f i have to do. i will never spend a day in jail. he said that at least 10 to 20 times during that 2 hour period. it was a bizarre mantra. it made it clear to us that michael cohen was saying i will lie, cheat, steal, shoot someone. i will never spend a day in

jail. he spent more than a day in jail. who does he blame? not himself even though count 1 through 7 related to times before he met donald trump. he blames donald trump. >> sean: will you believe the liar or that gentleman who is not a felon? according to just news.com and john solomon a memo from 2019 reveals cohen told his attorneys he has no information against donald trump. but cohen is telling a different story. do you trust michael cohen then or now? he admitted he lied in a court of law and pled guilty. that is what the bragg jury will have to answer. it's baffling right now when you consider that alvin bragg is famous for handing out plea deals like candy including

reduced charges for rapists and robbers. he reduced 52% of every felony case to a misdemeanor including many that were caught on tape on camera. in other words, a slam dunk conviction. if trump is charged it would be the first and only case that bragg ramped up from misdemeanor to a felony that we know of. this seems risky for mr. bragg given he only gets a conviction in about half of the felony cases he tries. 49% of the time he charges somebody and has a trial, he loses 49% of the time. one of the lowest convictions rates in the entire u.s. and 17 points lower than the last d.a. bragg must like to lose. and campaign finance violations are typically charged at the

federal level. the doj declined to bring any charges against trump. in 2018 a lawyer representing michael cohen issued this letter: mr. cohen used his own personal funds to facilitate the payment to stephanie clifford. near the trump organization nor the trump campaign was a party to this transaction. now bragg is trying to prove the opposite despite this clear evidence. why is bragg dedicating all of these resources. million dollars in taxes to this legal case? i can't answer that. in america justice is supposed to be blind. in america prosecutors are supposed to investigate crimes and not people. show me the man, i will show you the crime. that was the unofficial motto of

the former soviet union and stalin. that's news to alvin bragg and it's no longer certain that trump will even are charged. the winds are changing rapidly. sources told fox news there remains a real chance that bragg does not indict the former president. joining us to president trump's attorney in this case. >> [cheers and applause]. >> sean: and also form er chairman brad smith. when was the last time you heard from the d.a.? >> a week ago or so. they don't keep us up-to-date or in the loop. >> sean: it's unusual for a grand jury proceeding to be cancelled. it's rare. it does happen.

it may be reschedule tomorrow. we don't know. do you know who the last witnesses? >> no, this is not a joint proceedings. it's something they use to bring a charge. it's a formality for the most part. there appears to be chaos as there should be. the manhattan district attorney office was one the pinnacle of prosecutors office in this country. now it's a political tool. when i see the justice system being used to weapon the justice system against an individual it makes me sick to my stomach. >> sean: you have seen this letter? >> just today. >> sean: i read it.

>> it's michael cohen relaying to another federal authority for which it is a felony to lie to. he committed another felony for which he was not prosecuted for or he will have to say this was truthful. if it's truthful what it says is donald trump knew nothing about the deal he struck with stormy daniels. >> sean: what did you think of the comments of bob costello on this show last night that the d.a. can't use michael cohen as a witness because he would be contradicted by costello? >> and a big firm one of the best in this country. this corroborates bob. he is a reputable lawyer without an ax to grind.

he is not a convicted liar as michael cohen is. this letter is devastating to their case. the federal election commission this was done without any thought of the campaign. of course it wasn't. i said this before: anything that they are saying was 100% truthful there is still no crime. there is no campaign finance law violation at all. >> sean: if you take michael cohen in his own words and you had an opportunity to cross examine him? >> there will be no meat left on that bone. >> [cheers and applause]. >> sean: that will be must see tv. you are dealing with a convicted felon and an admitted serial liar. he was imprisoned as a result. how does he become their star

witness? >> i don't know. alvin bragg only a couple of months ago, they called it a zombie case. alvin bragg said i can't imagine a world where i would ever call michael cohen against donald trump. something changed in the last few months. >> sean: let's talk about your job at the fiec and alvin bragg in the beginning passed on it. what is the reason they passed? >> that's a great question. let he say something since i am on with mr. trump tower's lawyer. -- lawyer. i am not a paid consultant to the trump campaign. i had to say who is joe?

>> [laughing]. >> sean: he tried over 100 cases in new york. >> i am slighty me and not him. >> here's the pinnacle of resources whether it comes to federal election laws. let's hear what he has to say. you can go home. >> [laughing]. >> [applauding]. >> sean: brad, this is an important question. let's go over the law. >> the federal saw says something is a campaign contribution if it's made to influence the campaign. that's the argument they were trying to do this if they could pay hush money to stormy daniels they could help the trump campaign. that's not a subjective standard. if i went out today and picked

a random person and paid them $50,000 because i thought that would help trump get elected, that would be a campaign expenditure because that was my bizarre belief. it's an objective standard. that is made clear by part of the law that points out what things you can't spend money on. for example, a candidate can't spend money on a country club membership out of campaign funds. candidates can't spend money on clothing even if the candidate says i have to do a debate and i will buy a $6,000 suit. most of us would agree with this. most of us would not think it's a campaign expenditure to settle legal claims against you for

events that occurred 10 years before you talked about running for office. to pay hush money to stormy daniels or anybody else. it's a common sense matter that most americans don't think that's a campaign expense. the odd theory of d.a. bragg not only could those expenses be paid with campaign funds, they would have to be. when you look at the statute, it's not correct to say these funds count as a campaign expenditure. mr. trump paid for them with campaign funds, people in the d.a.'s office would be think about indicting him for illegally uses campaign funds for personal use. i think the correct answer there is no violation here. >> sean: the most comprehensive thoughtful answer from the fec i have ever heard.

joe the last word on this question. you said there is no law broken here. what are they attempting to do? >> to fulfill a political vendetta. i think alvin bragg is playing to his donors. i think he is trying to appease them. he doesn't care what the end result will be. this case won't be won by the district attorney's office. we will win this case if they bring it. prosecution discretion is being abused so badly if they get an indictment they think they have won. i think this will put president trump back in the white house. >> sean: do you think this back fires on them? >> [cheers and applause]. >> sean: jim jordan is demanding

testimony from 2 anti-trump manhattan prosecutors who embarrassed d.a. alvin bragg and resigned last year. because bragg was taking too long to bring charges against donald trump. here with more house judiciary chairman jim jordan is with us. how are you? >> [inaudible]. >> sean: your reaction to what happened today? you heard from joe. what is your reaction to their analysis of this case? >> well, i think alvin bragg may be going back to what he thought when he first won the job, he should not bring this case. the overall picture. the question is: what changed? we know the department of justice was not going to bring the case. the previous district attorney was not going to bring the case. now bragg gets elected as

district attorney, he won't bring the case. the only thing that changes between then and now is president trump announces he is running for president and pommerrants and dunn write a book and create pressure on alvin bragg. he decides now i will indict trump. that's why we are sending letters to the other two men and we want them to come in for an interview to ask them important questions. >> sean: what about bringing in bragg? he is supposed to get back with us tomorrow. we will find out tomorrow at 10 o'clock. then we will move accordingly. >> sean: this is investigating whether the doj weaponized. are we witnessing this in real time in this country?

>> it seems like it. think about president trump. first russia and then the phone call zelenskyy and then his tax returns and his children's business. then the raid on his home. now possibly this. we see with president trump and they went after parents and pro-lifers and catholic charitieses who they said were domestic terrorists -- catholics. they are being turned on the american people they are supposed to be serving. >> sean: what does it mean when the current attorney general of new york and manhattan d.a. run on a campaign and state they want to go after one man. one company, one family and they

do just that. is that justice? >> no, it's not. it's selective prosecution. it's wrong. the people of this great country understand it's wrong. that's not how our constitution is supposed to work. it's not supposed to attack people who are exercising their free speech rights. this whole thing we have witnessed this attack on the first amendment going after president trump, it's all wrong. that's why the judiciary committee is focussed on making sure we get the facts on the table to propose legislation to remedy the situation and use the power of the purse to limit funds going to some of these agencies that are doing this kind of thing. >> sean: how many fbi whistleblowers will you bring in? >> we have 3 testify already. we will talk to more.

hopefully will come public. >> sean: they are welcome on this show any time. interviewed two already. jim jordan, we appreciate you being with us. great work. coming up. ready for another segment. democrats getting cold feet on trump indictments. sara carter in studio and the media's embarrassing celebrations over the trump investigation and we have a big announcement later in the show. >> [cheers and applause]. when aspen dental told me that my dentures were ready, i was so excited. i love the confidence. i love that i can blast this beautiful smile and make the world smile with me. i would totally say aspen dental changed my life. aspen dental makes new smiles affordable. right now, get 20% off dentures.

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>> ♪ ♪ >> [cheers and applause]. >> sean: after they cancelleded grand jury proceeding today sources told fox news that alvin bragg could be having serious trouble making a case against former president trump. what do new yorkers think about this you? think new york and liberal. these are the only normal people in new york. >> [cheers and applause]. >> sean: sara carter went out to the streets of manhattan. a dangerous job to find out. take a look. >> d.a. bragg postponed the grand jury. do you think democrats are nervous? >> well, it's funny. this is something i expected to happen. i think they are trying to their best to deter him from running for presidency again. >> if he gets indicted, sure,

great. if he doesn't, i feel like 2024 is more of an issue. >> do you think democrats are nervous about the trump indictment or they will go for it? >> they were out here protesting yesterday afternoon. maybe they are nervous. >> it's a former president. they have to tread carefully. they can't go wild. i am not a fan of the guy but it's a wait and see game. >> do you think the dems are scared? >> it's ridiculous. this are actually criminals in new york who should be prosecuted and put in jail. >> do you think the democrats are getting nervous or it will happen later? how do you feel about trump? >> i didn't know it was delayed. that's disappointing. >> do you think the democrats bit off more than they can chew? >> definitely. they should focus on the economy and the recovery. post-pandemic. >> sean: joining us live in

studio is fox news reporter sara carter. >> [cheers and applause]. >> sean: great to see you in person. i never get to see you. >> i know. it feels like coming home. i love being here. >> sean: we need your investigative skills more than every. let's start with what people are saying. >> i walk through the city. 3 days of going through new york city. >> sean: new york city, if you don't come here, you are smart. it's a adam schiff hole. >> it is. it's scary. you are walking around fox news and sara carter. i am grateful for the new yorkers that come up and say i love your work on the border. i was nervous. i walked around the city. is there anybody here who wants to indict president trump? come talk to me. people were like we are tired of this. we are tired of the division.

if it's real, go for it. but everybody that i spoke to said no, there is more crime in this city. the focus needs to be that bragg should pay attention to the rising crime. last year 23% increase in crime in new york city. they are trying to go after president trump on an alleged misdemeanor when it's bragg who has taken misdemeanor and -- taken felonies and reduced them by 52% to misdemeanor. >> sean: this is the only case going from a misdemeanor to a felony. >> exactly. and new yorkers see right through it. this is a great city. i know there are a lot of democrats here. >> sean: not actually here. they are out there. >> [cheers and applause].

>> sean: sara carter, thank you. good to see nunew york. >> [cheers and applause]. >> sean: the media has been longing to see donald trump in handcuffs for years. this week was no exception. >> from a historical perspective an indictment against a former president is unprecedentsed. but talking about donald trump can you say that an indictment is a surprise? >> well, it would be political to not prosecute somebody who was indicted just because he is a former president. that's not what we do in this country. >> i don't rely on what the trump staff says like the "new york times" does about how donald trump is feeling. i will ask mary trump tonight how her uncle is feeling as they close in on him and prosecutors

across the country. >> so many people were excited. >> yeah. >> he is a liar! >> are you shocked? >> no, it annoys me every time. >> sean: are fans of the "view." the hysteria is predictable. now howard stern is calling them out over the breathless coverage of this looming indictment. let's bring in the author of a new book called "get trump" alan dershowitz and the author of an upcoming book gregg jarrett. professor, there is a passion for this to happen on the left. you argue this is against the constitution of our country. >> i have never seen a case in my 60 years of practice which has so many holes in it. start with the statute of

limitations. it's 7 years before he committed the crime. the new york state statute says the own exception is if his whereabouts were unknown. even bragg could have found him. he was in the white house. >> [laughing]. >> [applauding]. >> [audio breaking up]. there are photographs of him at his house on the street. i don't see how you can twist and turn to make this statute of limitations disappear. then you have all of the others. how many holes are there in shall i count the ways? i have never seen a weaker case. i think bragg is worried about his own bar card. he is worried if he brings this case and he uses a witness who he has to know is lying, there

will be investigations of him. there should be investigations. he told an office that was held by some of the great prosecutors in history. he is disgracing that office. by bringing this case. i hope he comes to his senses and doesn't bring this case in my book "get trump" -- i didn't makeup the name. it was made up by james and bragg. they campaigned on the promise of get trump. >> sean: it's not justice. gregg jarrett, the grand jury not showing up today? reports of chaos in bragg's office. i believe they are probably true. i don't know for sure. >> yes, i think it is true. the mainstream media which spent

several days salivating over an imminent trump indictment was crest fallen when they found out the grand jury proceedings came to a halt. a couple of things are happening here. you put your finger on one of them. that is there is a revolt in the district attorney's office in the ranks. top senior experienced prosecutors are angry about this. they see it for what it is. a politically motivated witch hunt. a legal theory with no merit. bragg twisted the evidence because he hates donald trump. the other thing is the grand jury itself. i think all of a sudden the grand jury are saying to themselves, wait a minute, are

we getting sand bagged by alvin bragg? costello said that michael cohen is a liar who can't be trusted. also they were probably taken aback by the fact that bragg was hiding hundreds of documents and emails from them. that's evidence. they have a right to see that. he is having trouble convincing the grand jury to indict. >> sean: all right. predictions, will they vote to indict donald trump yes or no? >> [audio breaking up]. in the grand jury revolted and said we won't indict a ham sandwich, we are fighting back. we have seen the evidence.

we won't take orders. we are an independent body. we have to look at ourselves in the mirror. >> sean: you are breaking up a little lit. -- will they indict? >> it's about 50-50. >> sean: i agree with you. straight ahead. the fed hiked interest rates again today to combat biden's out of control inflation? kevin o'leary when we come back. my most important kitchen tool? my brain. so i choose neuriva plus. unlike some others, neuriva plus is a multitasker supporting 6 key indicators of brain health. to help keep me sharp. neuriva: think bigger. pain used to keep me from what i love most. not anymore. blue-emu gave me my horsepower back. it's the powerful relief my joints need.

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hike as inflations plague americans across the country. credit cards and bank loans will be more expensive. the treasure secretary janet yellen is defending biden's billionaire buyout. kevin o'leary, great to see you. >> [cheers and applause]. >> sean: he will teach the audience to be billionaires by the end of the show. when two-thirds of the country are living paycheck to paycheck, when we see home sales at 11 year low. new home construction a dead stop. the economy. paying more for everything in every store. i get angry because it was preventible. we had a good economy.

biden wrecked it. am i wrong? >> biden printed a lot of money. you expect inflation and we got it big time. the fed is raising rates like they have not done in 40 years. stuff starts to break. core inflation is really high including food. people go to the store to buy eggs and chicken and it's up 50%. the fed has to chase this. they keep racing rates until something stops. there is so much money -- when you print 4-trillion dollars it's hard to spend it all. we are driving up rates. it's hard to know what will happen next. >> sean: summers said to end inflation we need 10% unemployment. do you agree with that? >> there is no way we are getting there.

not this time. they made the announcement, the market went up. midway through the press conference he was hawkish and the market cratered 500 points. he is not worried about the banking crisis. he is after inflation. that means more rate hikes. >> sean: i would live paycheck to paycheck. i know how people feel. it's not a great feeling. how do you advise the average great american, the people that get up every day and work hard and pay their taxes and obey laws and raise their kids that are struggling now? you said once on the air, only 2 choices. cut your spending or bring in more income. somebody said "hannity" to poor people get another job.

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>> sean: it's only wednesday but biden suffered through a number of bizarre gaffes this week already. take a look.

>> hmmm. always one moon like a silent drum tapping every rooftop and every window -- of every county -- country. let me start this over again. [inaudible]. i am having trouble. i am getting intimidated. always one moon like a silent drum tapping on every rooftop and every window of one country, county. there was a lawsuit between the governor of delaware and the governor of new jersey. we owe -- we own. the persian culture is amazing. as a student of persian culture,

like jill, the first lady, first full-time lady. the first lady who works full-time. jill puts messages on my mirror when i shave. one a year ago was top trying to make me love you. >> sean: you can't make it up. with reaction co-host of the bottom line dagen mcdowell and fox news contributor. you could not say judiciary. it's one of those words. this guy can't speak every day. >> who gives this man a poem? >> sean: got it wrong in the same spot the second time. >> i think this was a planned take down of the

commander-in-chief. it's a set up. they want to bring him down to kamala harris's level. they can't raise her up. they will give him a poem to read. or -- it was part of the poem. this is all he had to read. he could not get through. still said county for country twice. it's not like -- >> sean: she said he voted for him. i am kidding. that was a joke! >> you don't make jokes like that. charlie hurt and i are from the same place in virginia. his mother came to my momma's funeral. i have back up. you don't joke about that. >> i think you are right. the beleaguered speech writers

at the white house get their stuff destroyed every day. the poet was in the audience listening to his poetry get demolished by this guy. >> they picked the few lines of the poem from barack obama's second inauguration. they had single or 2 syllable words. it was the easiest to read. >> the children's words too. moon and drum. stars. you think he might be able to hang with it. >> nope. >> sean: make me die laughing. >> what poem would joe know by heart? there once was a man from nantucket. >> sean: [laughing]. >> [cheering and applause].

>> sean: you are not suggesting he is talking about barack obama, are you? >> no. >> sean: obama has a house there. >> martha's vineyard. >> sean: sorry >> don't forget whom we have to blame for joe biden. joe biden has been a buffoon for 50 years in washington. everybody laughed at him. >> sean: china and russia are on the move and our economy sucks. >> he bailed out rich people in silicone valley. >> sean: all right. thank you, both. when we come back a big programming announcement that is straight ahead. stay with us. mucinex nightshift fights your worst nighttime symptoms so you can get to sleep and wake up ready to go. how could you?

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go. mike pence in this studio tomorrow with an audience and a major programming announcement on monday. we will have an exclusive sit down interview with donald trump for the full hour. >> [cheers and applause]. >> sean: never miss an episode. trump is on monday and pence tomorrow. that's all the time we have left. let not your heart be troubled. a warm hello to -- [laughing]. >> [cheers and applause]. >> laura: hi, everybody. i have an idea. my idea is you have pence tomorrow and then you have trump monday. why not do them together on the same show? >> no! >> laura: come on. for old time's sake. that would be a show. >> sean: the bottom line is the person that needs to go is