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former trump lawyer and now witness michael cohen will face further cross-examination tomorrow, before trump's lawyers present his defense. followed by closing arguments. republican lawmakers loyal to trump have been making pilgrimages to manhattan to show support for the former president. i wonder about the roughly 20% of republican primary voters who were still voting for nikki haley in racist months after she has dropped out. do you think a conviction in this case makes them more likely to go for biden? >> i do. i think it is still yet to be determined whether or not haley voters will go for biden in the general or almac third-party candidate. they are surely not going to go for donald trump and surely not going to go for donald trump is convicted. polling shows that if he's to get one conviction out of any of these trials biden sleeve drastically grows. i think right now, donald trump republican supporters who are coming out are just vying for a vice president spot or cabinet pick. at best they are going to get almac significant amount of media attention, but that is all this is. i
former trump lawyer and now witness michael cohen will face further cross-examination tomorrow, before trump's lawyers present his defense. followed by closing arguments. republican lawmakers loyal to trump have been making pilgrimages to manhattan to show support for the former president. i wonder about the roughly 20% of republican primary voters who were still voting for nikki haley in racist months after she has dropped out. do you think a conviction in this case makes them more likely to...
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and then you turn to michael cohen. i actually, do think that there are, there is no way they brought this case thinking, oh, you have to leave michael cohen or else you can't convict and i think they are going to say that and they're going to say that he has cooperated about the things that really matter and even if you just use your common sense, yes, of course that was a given in the beginning, middle, and end of the case and they are still going to say that. it doesn't mean this is very much like the civil case, you can be convicted of perjury, you can be a liar and it doesn't mean you are always lying. >> i mean, every mock trial features unseemly characters that were part of the mob. the witness couldn't be, there would be very few people in our jails. >> i will tell you a story about the number of times i put san diego bono on the stand. he was the underboss of the gambino family who was still cooperating and one of the baggage he had, in addition to participating in 19 murders, he was, he had been captured on ta
and then you turn to michael cohen. i actually, do think that there are, there is no way they brought this case thinking, oh, you have to leave michael cohen or else you can't convict and i think they are going to say that and they're going to say that he has cooperated about the things that really matter and even if you just use your common sense, yes, of course that was a given in the beginning, middle, and end of the case and they are still going to say that. it doesn't mean this is very...
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without michael cohen do you have anything there? >> you do not have any direct evidence even with: all you have is a meeting with: ana weisselberg and then weisselberg with the accounts payable clerk to report as legal expenses. there is no evidence donald trump ever suggested the record entry be legal expenses. he just signed the checks because they were sent to him to sign. there is nothing to suggest, no evidence whatsoever that donald trump made, because, directed or entered any of these legal entries. let me let me make one more point about michael cohen the phone call that was made between: ann schiller that was the hot on direct examination eddie haskell testifying you always call the boss as soon as the work is done and let him know. it turns out and i'm sure he testified similarly to the grand jury as well it was that were told trump it turns out that's not true. this a puny little guy it was too sick this secret service on a 14-year-old and that is what the conversation was about because of the text a message to contextual
without michael cohen do you have anything there? >> you do not have any direct evidence even with: all you have is a meeting with: ana weisselberg and then weisselberg with the accounts payable clerk to report as legal expenses. there is no evidence donald trump ever suggested the record entry be legal expenses. he just signed the checks because they were sent to him to sign. there is nothing to suggest, no evidence whatsoever that donald trump made, because, directed or entered any of...
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so as you mentioned michael cohen, he'll be back on the witness stand tomorrow morning. the defenses in the middle of its cross-examination , trying to undermine his credibility, trying to convince the jury not to believe a word he said after the defense has done questioning, cohen the prosecutors, they'll get another bite at the apple. they can pose some friendly or questions to him and then after that, we think that the prosecution is going to rest. they've said that they don't have any other witnesses to call. it's been five weeks. they put but on a lot of testimony and they are ready to wrap things up after that, fred, the defense, they can put on a case, but remember, they don't have to the burden is on the government to prove its case. the defense does not have to put any witnesses on the stand. and by the way, they have not yet definitively ruled out whether or not trump is going to testify though. it's kind of hard to see that actually happening. and the judge has signaled that once that's all done, closing arguments might be happening as soon as tuesday what thi
so as you mentioned michael cohen, he'll be back on the witness stand tomorrow morning. the defenses in the middle of its cross-examination , trying to undermine his credibility, trying to convince the jury not to believe a word he said after the defense has done questioning, cohen the prosecutors, they'll get another bite at the apple. they can pose some friendly or questions to him and then after that, we think that the prosecution is going to rest. they've said that they don't have any other...
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michael cohen will return to the stand tomorrow. opening statements could begin as soon as tuesday the defense decides not to call any witnesses. the case and the former president's fate will be in the hands of the jury. joining us now, adam, who has been in the courtroom throughout the trial and a former federal prosecutor for politico, i know you have sat through the testimony of michael cohen monday. donald trump's attorneys will have their last chance to question him and potentially cross and redirect. tell me how you expect this to go. what are the big salient lines of the focus? >> reporter: i think the next big event to happen will be redirect because there was the moment on friday that got a lot of attention where trump's attorney, todd blanche, landed a blow on michael cohen when he confronted cohen with the evidence of the text messages of an october 24th, 2016 phone call with trump's bodyguard, keith taylor. on direct examination. michael cohen had a memory of it that he was calling them to talk about the stormy daniels p
michael cohen will return to the stand tomorrow. opening statements could begin as soon as tuesday the defense decides not to call any witnesses. the case and the former president's fate will be in the hands of the jury. joining us now, adam, who has been in the courtroom throughout the trial and a former federal prosecutor for politico, i know you have sat through the testimony of michael cohen monday. donald trump's attorneys will have their last chance to question him and potentially cross...
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michael cohen to say what he said and expected the cross-examination to be as it was the only surprise. so far has been the good behavior of donald trump during the testimony of the witnesses and that surprise that may happen. and it would be a big surprise if he chooses to testify he won't but he has an absolute right not to testify because it's going to be his call. >> so everything here's i don't think anyone is surprised at all that how things are going the key, one of the keys is indeed, as you mentioned, the testimony of michael cohen, but there's much more to that. there's the documentary evidence and it's about following the money and following the papal paper trail and hooking all of them that up with the testimony of the witnesses. that's what this case is really all about and what the jurors are going to have to consider. >> all right. and now we'll have you as a retired california superior court judge. i've got to ask you about the us supreme court justice samuel alito in a response to that upside down, american flag flying outside his home possible nod to january 6. and su
michael cohen to say what he said and expected the cross-examination to be as it was the only surprise. so far has been the good behavior of donald trump during the testimony of the witnesses and that surprise that may happen. and it would be a big surprise if he chooses to testify he won't but he has an absolute right not to testify because it's going to be his call. >> so everything here's i don't think anyone is surprised at all that how things are going the key, one of the keys is...
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maria: that was michael cohen's former legal adviser robert costello testifying before the house weaponization committee wednesday about his interactions with rump's former lawyer -- president trump's former lawyer. cohen is expected to be back on the witness stand in trump's new york trial tomorrow to resume that testimony which has largely been panned by legal analysts. joining me now is national press secretary for the trump campaign karoline leavitt. thanks very much for being here. want to get your reaction the all that we've talked about this morning, but first, are you expecting the trump defense team to call robert costello to testify in the actual trial? >> well, it is possible that our defense team calls mr. costello to testify this week with. that is up to the judge to approve that. however, what i will say is i'm not even allowed to comment on what mr. costello just said in that clip that that you played because of the unconstitutional gag order that the judge has imposed on not only president trump in this case, but also our entire campaign team. we've been sitting in that courtro
maria: that was michael cohen's former legal adviser robert costello testifying before the house weaponization committee wednesday about his interactions with rump's former lawyer -- president trump's former lawyer. cohen is expected to be back on the witness stand in trump's new york trial tomorrow to resume that testimony which has largely been panned by legal analysts. joining me now is national press secretary for the trump campaign karoline leavitt. thanks very much for being here. want to...
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so you get a real view of what michael cohen was like in those days at that moment in time. and then ask yourself this question, why are they trying to keep these documents from me? c7 he sounds very willing to take the stand in conversations about prepping him and calling him possibly. >> based on his public statements and also his testimony before congress he would absolutely undercut any remaining credibility of michael cohen and therefore key parts of the prosecution's case. that having been said, michael cohen i believe is completely collapsed on the stand under withering cross-examination by president trump's trial team. so at this moment i don't think there's any further need to call into question michael cohen's credibility because he has none. shannon: is back on the stamper cross-examination for it will be dialed is i'm sure you will be to attorney will scharf thank you for your time be returned shortly cabal george washington university law professor jonathan turley former principal deputy assistant attorney general tom dupree. gentlemen, welcome back. tom will st
so you get a real view of what michael cohen was like in those days at that moment in time. and then ask yourself this question, why are they trying to keep these documents from me? c7 he sounds very willing to take the stand in conversations about prepping him and calling him possibly. >> based on his public statements and also his testimony before congress he would absolutely undercut any remaining credibility of michael cohen and therefore key parts of the prosecution's case. that...
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even though michael cohen took blows, there is no corroboration for his testimony. >> and we learned about how the trump this loyalist disrupted the courtroom. some were making videos in a holding room and the judge said not to let that happen again and the judge said he had less than zero control. how can you tell us about how the judge in trump's own lawyer reacted. >> one of the most unbelievable things i have seen and i have covered courts for years. when michael cohen gets to the explanation to the jury at the end of his examination, it was a reckoning where he is decidedly guilty. he is describing a heartfelt conversation with his daughter saying trump is not his your daughter. do right by your family. >> in the middle of this heartfelt description, it is the republican delegation coming in and disrupt dean. they were handing phones out to each other and basically taking selfies in another courtroom where donald trump has a holding office where he sits with his lawyers. it was quite unbelievable to see this kind of behavior in a courtroom where everyone else has to be quiet and
even though michael cohen took blows, there is no corroboration for his testimony. >> and we learned about how the trump this loyalist disrupted the courtroom. some were making videos in a holding room and the judge said not to let that happen again and the judge said he had less than zero control. how can you tell us about how the judge in trump's own lawyer reacted. >> one of the most unbelievable things i have seen and i have covered courts for years. when michael cohen gets to...
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you have become the michael cohen of the fdic you need to go. if you have the decency, please step down and if not i would urge the president of the united states to replace you asap and with that i will yield back. >> the gentleman yields back end of the gentleman from illinois from the financial institution subcommittee is recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. charan. last friday they issued a report on non-bank mortgage servicing and the statement following the vote to approve the report you said the report identifies the important financial stability concerns that need to be addressed by congress. the press release notes that in 1922 non-bank mortgage companies originated approximately two thirds of mortgages in the united states and going to servicing rates on 54%. i came in and march of 2008 and so i spent a lot of the first years cleaning up the mess of the under regulated mortgage industry and looking at the damage that did to families in america. this report notes the benefits such as supporting lending to historically underser
you have become the michael cohen of the fdic you need to go. if you have the decency, please step down and if not i would urge the president of the united states to replace you asap and with that i will yield back. >> the gentleman yields back end of the gentleman from illinois from the financial institution subcommittee is recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. charan. last friday they issued a report on non-bank mortgage servicing and the statement following the vote to...
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the contribution by michael cohen exceeds the $2000 limit. and -- >> has the manhattan da met this burden? >> it's a loaded question. keep in mind what i said about reasonable doubt. first it's a question of you presented any evidence to substantiate the prosecution. the answer is yes. the question about whether you been persuasive is different. as a lawyer i cannot get past some of the parts of michael cohen's testimony and things i know about allen weisselberg. it's impossible to guess what the jury is feeling. but can we anticipate the verdict? and that is harder. the defense has made such a mess out of this case. if they asked me from the beginning i would say you have to admit you had with stormy daniels. there's no doubt that you had with her and there's no doubt that cohen was paid hundred and $30,000. the question is is when the books were cooked we in on it. and you could've made the argument that these things went down without my knowledge. that that's not the way they presented this case and that's why it's a tossup trying to antic
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michael cohen looks the same in his sight -- segment. it's very clear that he lied about a key phone call. not any phone call but the key one that he was speaking to when he talked to trump saying that this matter is now over. the question is how this is impacting the jury. i've studied new yorkers my whole life and they are a curious pizza folding people. [ laughter ] the one thing i have noticed is new yorkers don't like to get played. they don't like being chomped. and the question is at what point does this reach this jury this is the biggest legal con in history and we are the marks because you know, when cohen fell apart on the stand at some point the jury's going to have to look at what's being asked of them. they are trying just to get this to a jury. if they understand michael cohen is not good but they are try to argue to the judge that's a question for the jury and then he's hoping the jury will not look at the evidence that they will not look beyond who is the defendant? they might be wrong be wrong. that cynicism might cost
michael cohen looks the same in his sight -- segment. it's very clear that he lied about a key phone call. not any phone call but the key one that he was speaking to when he talked to trump saying that this matter is now over. the question is how this is impacting the jury. i've studied new yorkers my whole life and they are a curious pizza folding people. [ laughter ] the one thing i have noticed is new yorkers don't like to get played. they don't like being chomped. and the question is at...
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rich: the defenses chipped away at michael cohen's credibility here. does the former president have the case? does heat make the case he's had a pretty good day? >> it is interesting he says that about the other news organizations is kind of across the spectrum across the political spectrum and the news inspection people are basically saying: is not doing a great job it is not a good witness. certainly not a critical witness it's like a land mine when you talk to him. there are so many places you could step in it with him. a lot of times in your intro you have a hunch a witness might not like one of the parties. but here it is indisputable he is been on podcast talking about a priest going on tiktok talking about it. he is called donald trump many names the past and wants to take him down. he is not done himself any favors in terms of his testimony. the word vomit he has spewed is very, very obvious he is a biased witness. i cannot imagine displaying both the jury but it is interesting is not only not playing well with people with common sense but acro
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cohen, and they have not shown the conversations between donald trump and michael cohen took place where donald trump approved the repayment scheme that michael cohen mapped out on a copy of a bank statement for the llc for michael cohen he set up to make the payment so much other evidence that surrounds michael cohen and bolsters him, if i am the prosecution, yes, worried about that got you moment, but so much else about their being no other explanation other than the central narrative that michael cohen has taken them through the documents otherwise support. >> this is such an interesting thing to watch an interesting development. the defense could call witnesses , there is a rumor hanging out, which is a game, that donald trump could testify. andrew, i assume you don't think that will happen and it is a game, talk to us about what the strategy is of a defense on whether or not he will testify? >> it is not going to happen. i would be shocked at the judge would be beyond shocked when here on friday or thursday saying we may call a witness. he said, okay, summation is tuesday. [ laughte
cohen, and they have not shown the conversations between donald trump and michael cohen took place where donald trump approved the repayment scheme that michael cohen mapped out on a copy of a bank statement for the llc for michael cohen he set up to make the payment so much other evidence that surrounds michael cohen and bolsters him, if i am the prosecution, yes, worried about that got you moment, but so much else about their being no other explanation other than the central narrative that...
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they expect to hear more cross-examination of former attorney and fixer michael cohen. trump's lawyers work to highlight cohen's past, lying under oath he has admitted it they will also wait to see if the president himself will testify in his own defense as he has a promise. cb can't live in york city and what we can expect tomorrow. >> hi eric. as you just said former president donald trump defense team has worked overtime to try and damage of michael cohen's credibility. cohen's cross-examination is expected to wrap sometime tomorrow and so far trump's attorney todd blanche has worked to highlight lies cohen has told while under oath in the past and during cross-examination blanche also tried to accuse cohen of lying again during his witness testimony for this trial. cohen stood firm on his retelling of the stormy daniels deal trump's defense team is trying to paint a picture cohen is bent on revenge after not getting a job in the white house. during cross-examination on thursday cohen insisted he never wanted one said he only wanted to be considered for a role. but g
they expect to hear more cross-examination of former attorney and fixer michael cohen. trump's lawyers work to highlight cohen's past, lying under oath he has admitted it they will also wait to see if the president himself will testify in his own defense as he has a promise. cb can't live in york city and what we can expect tomorrow. >> hi eric. as you just said former president donald trump defense team has worked overtime to try and damage of michael cohen's credibility. cohen's...
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cohen does whatever benefits michael cohen. >> i talked to michael cohen and he called me when he wasn't happy about something i've written and let me is have it. >> which is something he does. i'm sitting there thinking i know a bunch of the press and re-sip yens of irate angry phone calls and his attack dog. and so i'm sure he remembers that as watching it. >> if you were advising him now, would you let him testimony? >> because it'll open the doors to all kinds of questioning and who knows all the different paths that could take. a fairly effective job at showing michael cohen and not a credible person and it matters at the end of the day and comes down to cohen's words versus what trump and the jury will have to make a decision, are we willing to imprison the former president of the united states and possible future ones over the testimony of a man who had a history of lying, blame shifting and making millions of dollars off of den grading him, and was probably upset that he felt like trump abandoned him. >> to be continued. >> to be continued. >> still to come, what a scoop on the n
cohen does whatever benefits michael cohen. >> i talked to michael cohen and he called me when he wasn't happy about something i've written and let me is have it. >> which is something he does. i'm sitting there thinking i know a bunch of the press and re-sip yens of irate angry phone calls and his attack dog. and so i'm sure he remembers that as watching it. >> if you were advising him now, would you let him testimony? >> because it'll open the doors to all kinds of...
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michael cohen is the final witness for the prosecution. and prosecutors are expected to rest their case. it is an almost surreal moment in history. the final stretch of something that none of us have ever seen before. judge juan merchan has told both sides to prepare to give closing arguments as soon as tuesday. that leaves room for the possibility that a perfect is days away. joining me now is the cohost of a podcast and msnbc contributor and also joining us is suzanne craig. joyce, we are going to start off taking off the glasses and talking to a lawyer. what are you looking for going in to this week, particularly as we seem to be barreling toward the conclusion of this trial and what will be the summations at the end of the week?>> a couple of key turning points. first we will see whether anything else develops in the remainder of michael cohen's cross-examination that strikes a hit against his credibility. he has done very well despite this moment in cross where he was caught in a lie about phone call. there's plenty of good evidence t
michael cohen is the final witness for the prosecution. and prosecutors are expected to rest their case. it is an almost surreal moment in history. the final stretch of something that none of us have ever seen before. judge juan merchan has told both sides to prepare to give closing arguments as soon as tuesday. that leaves room for the possibility that a perfect is days away. joining me now is the cohost of a podcast and msnbc contributor and also joining us is suzanne craig. joyce, we are...
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how did michael cohen do in your view? >> a few weeks ago i said i thought it was more likely than not that trump would be convicted. a huge problem for a presidential candidate to be convicted right before an election, maybe it's a close election, and have that overturned on appeal, something we saw with ted stevens during his senate race, i am not sure that the prosecution has come close to meeting the burden. they had to prove business records were false, trump did it fraudulently and knew they were false and they have not shown much evidence that donald trump knew and that if he knew, he did it to conceal some other crime. i am not at all convinced that we're not headed towards an acquittal, hung jury. if that's the case, watch what happens to the polls then. >> martha: either way, does it affect the election at all? >> does it affect the election? i don't know what affects the election at this point. the challenge is that many voters still don't seem entirely convinced that this election will be a rematch between joe
how did michael cohen do in your view? >> a few weeks ago i said i thought it was more likely than not that trump would be convicted. a huge problem for a presidential candidate to be convicted right before an election, maybe it's a close election, and have that overturned on appeal, something we saw with ted stevens during his senate race, i am not sure that the prosecution has come close to meeting the burden. they had to prove business records were false, trump did it fraudulently and...
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he pointed michael cohen and you say the prosecution build their case around this convicted liar. somebody who only wants revenge against trump. and we caught him in a lie right in front of you. and the new focus on what i call the empty chair defense. guess who has been notably absent. allen weisselberg. they never called him. what were they afraid of? his hand riding literally and figuratively all over the exhibits. you literally saw his handwriting in the exhibits in the most compelling exhibits with the most powerful evidence of falsification of business records. where is he? and what is the prosecution hiding? that, remember, many of you out there might be thinking, i don't know. i thought the prosecution explained that. maybe they did. that is not the burden of the defense. they need to create reasonable doubt and one or more more jurors. and maybe get one as an advocate in the jury room. >> the allen weisselberg pieces something i have been talking about is well as far as a defense being able to use it as a short sword and shield in terms of defense. poking the hole or rais
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i remember how he opened his cross with michael cohen asking about things michael cohen said about him as the lawyer and making it about himself right out of the gate. and i don't know where the strategy is. what is your take on this particular defense team that donald trump has assembled and what will happen next week? >> i worked as a prosecutor alongside todd blanche. they have had trial experience. todd blanche was a supervisor of the violent crimes unit. that is the unit that had the most trials. he has not only prosecuted a number of trials but supervisor number of trials as well. with that said, a number of the things he has done strategically have been really surprising to me. attacking the prosecutors and saying that they engaged in discovery violations where he knew he could have gotten the documents himself. leading the judge to scold him and say, you are not only accusing them of misconduct but your accusing the court. and you don't have the case site to do that. they requested to remove the judge twice and are suing the judge. which is sort of this extreme delay tactic. he
i remember how he opened his cross with michael cohen asking about things michael cohen said about him as the lawyer and making it about himself right out of the gate. and i don't know where the strategy is. what is your take on this particular defense team that donald trump has assembled and what will happen next week? >> i worked as a prosecutor alongside todd blanche. they have had trial experience. todd blanche was a supervisor of the violent crimes unit. that is the unit that had the...
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as for those legal battles, former trump fixer michael cohen will be back on the stand tomorrow as the first criminal trial of a former president draws to a close, but despite it all the state of the race remains stagnant. biden continues to trail former president trump in several key battle ground states, down by double digits in nevada and george a states he won in 2020. in atlanta on saturday the president argued mr. trump presents an unhinged threat to the country$ well, mr. trump -- he doesn't have an opponent, but he lost 120,000 votes in pennsylvania. they didn't vote for him. they voted for a woman who is no longer in the race.■ç >> mean while on friday night at a republican dinner in minnesota, former president trump falsely claimed he won the state in 2016 and 2020. he lost both times. >> i thought we won it in 2016 -- i know we won it in 2020. we've got to be -- we've got to be careful. we've got to watch those votes. >> at the nra convention in dallas on saturday trump again falsely claimed to have won the 2020 election. >> fdr, 16■ç years. 16 years almost full term.
as for those legal battles, former trump fixer michael cohen will be back on the stand tomorrow as the first criminal trial of a former president draws to a close, but despite it all the state of the race remains stagnant. biden continues to trail former president trump in several key battle ground states, down by double digits in nevada and george a states he won in 2020. in atlanta on saturday the president argued mr. trump presents an unhinged threat to the country$ well, mr. trump -- he...
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trump, president trump facing testimony from michael cohen and a lot hot of supporters of his have been there as speaker johnson vice presidential hopefuls like senator jd vance are governor doug burgum are you planning at all and going to see the case and express support for him there. >> i have a very hectic schedule, which is a planned foreign advance per the book, you mean for other things, all kinds of things. >> yeah president knows that. >> i'm supportive of his nothing that needs to be proven let me ask you about the black vote. >> if i can, because president biden this weekend is crisscrossing the country touting his record for black americans during his presidency. you've been very vocal about praising how good donald trump was for black americans and in particular, you noted that black unemployment hit a record low in september 2019, 5.3%. now since then, black unemployment hit a new record low under biden 4.8% in april 2023, though right now, it's up again to 5.6%. do you think the biden-harris ticket deserves any credit for that for the record, low under them i really have
trump, president trump facing testimony from michael cohen and a lot hot of supporters of his have been there as speaker johnson vice presidential hopefuls like senator jd vance are governor doug burgum are you planning at all and going to see the case and express support for him there. >> i have a very hectic schedule, which is a planned foreign advance per the book, you mean for other things, all kinds of things. >> yeah president knows that. >> i'm supportive of his nothing...
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we spent a week with michael cohen in the treel against donald trump. trump also addressed that in dallas. let's take a listen to that first. >> they want to take my rights better than anybody more worse than al capone. he was indicted twice -- i got indicted four times. i go years and years i go through all sorts of stuff in new york. i built buildings with the unions, with all of the people that are involved that's a rough business. i never had a question about me. all of a sudden within a period of like stood a little bit i got indicted four times and on civil basis four or five times with -- with all being run from the white house and the doj. but i'm able to talk about things although i do have a gag order. i can't talk about the things i want to talk about. because what i talk about is just on the surface because if i go in they want to put me in jail. can you imagine -- you've won the republican nomination for president of the united states and you have a local judge appointed by democrat politicians appointed he didn't win the election he's appo
we spent a week with michael cohen in the treel against donald trump. trump also addressed that in dallas. let's take a listen to that first. >> they want to take my rights better than anybody more worse than al capone. he was indicted twice -- i got indicted four times. i go years and years i go through all sorts of stuff in new york. i built buildings with the unions, with all of the people that are involved that's a rough business. i never had a question about me. all of a sudden...
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yes, testimony resumes tomorrow in the criminal hush money trial with michael cohen. the judge has signaled, could be ready for closing arguments as soon as tuesday, perhaps even a verdict this week. there's the legal side of it and then there's the fascinating political side of it, as you know, that parade of republicans, including house speaker mike johnson, showing up at the courthouse last week to show support for the former president. what is the sense of how all this may play into the campaign ahead? >> willie, good morning. it has been fascinating. so far this legal battle, the hush money trial, unfolding in new york hasn't really shaken up the state of the race. the race has been very stagnant. we have former president trump leading in several key battleground states, some within the margin of error. he has a narrow lead nationally, but our february nbc news poll found that actually if trump were to be convicted that swaps and then biden has a very narrow lead. zooming out the takeaway this is a close race, and that takes mean to the fact these two candidates
yes, testimony resumes tomorrow in the criminal hush money trial with michael cohen. the judge has signaled, could be ready for closing arguments as soon as tuesday, perhaps even a verdict this week. there's the legal side of it and then there's the fascinating political side of it, as you know, that parade of republicans, including house speaker mike johnson, showing up at the courthouse last week to show support for the former president. what is the sense of how all this may play into the...
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. >>> so, tomorrow, michael cohen returns to the stand in cross- examination , if the defense does not call witnesses, closing arguments could start as soon as tuesday. the criminal trial is proving to be a litmus test for the so- called party of law and order. one by one, republican leaders are spilled into court, showing their loyalty to trump and since americans can't see the testimony for themselves or even hear it, they can spill whatever they claimed to have witnessed, attacking the justice system in the process.>> there was something that the former president said in his nra speech last night related to this trial and that was his talk about the gag order, again it is early in the morning, we are not going to make our viewers listen to that, but he did say i'm able to talk about things although i do have a gag order, i can talk about the things i want to talk about because what i talk about is just on the surface because if i go in, they want to put me in jail if i talk. can you believe they want to put me in jail if i say the truth, which is not how a gag order works, this is h
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. >> so let's start with michael cohen because he'll be back on the stand at the start of this week. there was this big moment talking about that october 24, 2016 phone call, the text messages. he testified that the phone call was width from about the stormy daniels matter. todd blanche, the defense attorney, showed text messages to go in and of course, to the jury showed that they were talking about around that time harassing phone calls that he received, and he was asking for help. todd blanche made it big moment, said you lied. how much damage to the cause? yeah. i'm glad to be it was a big beaumont. i mean, i just can't get around that and it was it was a devastating moment against the government's case against the state's case here. the issue is that this call is has been played episode of the key call where trump approves everything he gives his stamp of acknowledgment and i know what's going on and the states so to play that up, what they didn't do was prepped a witness for this second reasoning for the call, and it's now got them into a position of having to debate what happe
. >> so let's start with michael cohen because he'll be back on the stand at the start of this week. there was this big moment talking about that october 24, 2016 phone call, the text messages. he testified that the phone call was width from about the stormy daniels matter. todd blanche, the defense attorney, showed text messages to go in and of course, to the jury showed that they were talking about around that time harassing phone calls that he received, and he was asking for help. todd...
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they very good reason michael cohen was not telling the truth. i told them the southern district of new york had obviously concluded michael cohen was not telling the truth. i suggested to them if all the southern district lead and drop the case they had no interest in hearing my opinion of what they had to say. i told them and us in the zoom conference on the friday before my grand jury testimony et cetera you people aware michael cohen is coming out with a second book? i know you're probably aware of his first book. i got blank looks from everybody. i will save the effort of toes coming out they book quite coincidentally it's coming out next week which is the week that you intend to indict donald trump. do you think that's a coincidence? don't you see he is using you people to monetize the situation? he is using you to make money. you are going along with that. you havyou've not been your due diligence paid they had no interest in hearing that. >> think it's important for the american people to understand is that a prosecutor is not free to put
they very good reason michael cohen was not telling the truth. i told them the southern district of new york had obviously concluded michael cohen was not telling the truth. i suggested to them if all the southern district lead and drop the case they had no interest in hearing my opinion of what they had to say. i told them and us in the zoom conference on the friday before my grand jury testimony et cetera you people aware michael cohen is coming out with a second book? i know you're probably...
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jimmy: the big takeaways michael cohen took the stand we learned that he's been trying to pitch a reality show about his life and fourthly for calling we already all, the biggest loser. >> any person should be held accountable and cannibals the sky, let me, donald calcium c1 will not a lot of legal scholars say this case because because he has discredited his testimony before on tiktok and repeatedly calling for trump to be in jail is also the small fact the cohen was prosecutions are witness by the fact that he himself is a convicted liar is barred from practicing law known position to talk about trumps integrity. but either way you slice it, trump has not the only world leader come to get framed this week and check it out. >> king charles, and build his first official portrait of buckingham palace on tuesday, according to critics it was painted by visit man no and we can't here's a video of the actual artists. ♪ ♪ >> in truth john was commissioned to view this portrait and he includes this little black as possible, and a loss to strategy and meghan markel. [applause] [applause] jimm
jimmy: the big takeaways michael cohen took the stand we learned that he's been trying to pitch a reality show about his life and fourthly for calling we already all, the biggest loser. >> any person should be held accountable and cannibals the sky, let me, donald calcium c1 will not a lot of legal scholars say this case because because he has discredited his testimony before on tiktok and repeatedly calling for trump to be in jail is also the small fact the cohen was prosecutions are...
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michael cohen he can't do that. it would violate the gag order. so they're doing his dirty work for him. so in that sense, it's helpful to him, them, their audience for their communication is trump, which tells you how much he owns the republican party. >> also on this week's program is this map, which shows the recent real clear politics average of polls. according to a series of recent polls in swing states, donald trump would win the presidential contest against joe biden if it was held today. >> but for democrats out there who think like there's these, you know, donald trump is sitting in a courtroom, he might be convicted. we'll see. it's up to the jury. this is over. it's not this is going to be a very close election. there are some warning signs in there. i don't think the biden campaign is unaware of them. but for people who thought this would be easy, it's not. >> you can catch the full episode of the issue is tomorrow morning at 630 right here on ktvu, followed by mornings on two. still to come. russia launches an air strike on ukraine's
michael cohen he can't do that. it would violate the gag order. so they're doing his dirty work for him. so in that sense, it's helpful to him, them, their audience for their communication is trump, which tells you how much he owns the republican party. >> also on this week's program is this map, which shows the recent real clear politics average of polls. according to a series of recent polls in swing states, donald trump would win the presidential contest against joe biden if it was...
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trump bodyguard keith schiller about a series of crank calls to michael cohen from a 14-year-old. the possibility of more dramatic moments might be coming to an end. judge juan merchan has set closing remarks to begin as early as tuesday with jury deliberations to follow. joining me now, harry lipman, former deputy assistant attorney general, los angeles times legal affairs columnist and host of the talking for's podcast and glenn kirschner, follow at just security, both were in the courtroom this week. thank you for being here. harry, despite thursday's contentious cross-examination, is michael cohen still a credible witness? >> i think so, jonathan. among other things, he was really kind of calm and perturbed, even at this one moment, where he was flummoxed a little, and what he eventually said is perhaps i spoke, both to schiller, we knew he had called schiller park to talk to trump. they showed he must've also been talking to schiller and he thinks maybe it was both. i think it rattled him a bit but he was pretty calm even then and he has remained that way throughout. somethin
trump bodyguard keith schiller about a series of crank calls to michael cohen from a 14-year-old. the possibility of more dramatic moments might be coming to an end. judge juan merchan has set closing remarks to begin as early as tuesday with jury deliberations to follow. joining me now, harry lipman, former deputy assistant attorney general, los angeles times legal affairs columnist and host of the talking for's podcast and glenn kirschner, follow at just security, both were in the courtroom...
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that was another different michael cohen. he was lying to you, he is presenting himself as someone he is not, and as the defense is going to argue, he told potentially a series of lies. and let me add one last thing. the line that has been offered so frequently from prosecutors and from folks in the media that michael cohen has fully corroborated is not true, and we learned that today because, you know, the call that he had with keith schiller, in one sense, that testimony is corroborated by the call records because we know that the call occurred. it is not corroborated in the sense that we don't know what happened during that call unless we take michael cullen's word for it. so, you know, i think this has always been the risk in this case, that this day would come when there would be a very aggressive cross-examination that could actually swing the needle. we will find out in a matter of days, maybe weeks, if that comes true. but this was sort of inevitable on a day like this. >> now we have a couple of days to think about a
that was another different michael cohen. he was lying to you, he is presenting himself as someone he is not, and as the defense is going to argue, he told potentially a series of lies. and let me add one last thing. the line that has been offered so frequently from prosecutors and from folks in the media that michael cohen has fully corroborated is not true, and we learned that today because, you know, the call that he had with keith schiller, in one sense, that testimony is corroborated by...
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cohen, michael cohen called himself a lawyer. michael cohen, a fixer, he only fixes things that he broke. we got all of this stuff, all of the ad hominem anything you could want about michael cohen we've already had. then they put it all in context. here's what he wants when he served donald trump, here's when he stopped serving donald trump, here is what he has done since, here are the since he has committed and the way he has atoned. it has all been out there in advance. for todd blanche to be out as donald trump's defense lawyer saying michael cohen, didn't you like to congress ? the jury must be sitting there yes, we heard the expiration for that already, we know what that is, why are you picking it up again? >> the thing that struck me today on that point, on the cross is i do think, i mean, there are plausible stories to tell here. for instance, right, and they are spending a lot of time on his podcast and the fact that there was a moment, all the different merchandise you sell on your website, your associated websites that
cohen, michael cohen called himself a lawyer. michael cohen, a fixer, he only fixes things that he broke. we got all of this stuff, all of the ad hominem anything you could want about michael cohen we've already had. then they put it all in context. here's what he wants when he served donald trump, here's when he stopped serving donald trump, here is what he has done since, here are the since he has committed and the way he has atoned. it has all been out there in advance. for todd blanche to...
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that was michael agatha christie cohen today. so, for example, why did michael cohen make the hush money payments to stormy daniels from his home equity line of credit rather than from his bank account? we learned today it's because that account was paperless. no statements related to that home equity line of credit are going to be mailed to his house. michael cohen's wife was never going to see some inextricable hundred $30,000 payment on a statement and question him as to what he was up to. now we know. also, why when the reimbursement was made to michael: for him paying for stormy daniels, why did that include not just the stormy daniels reimbursement but a bunch of money for a bunch of other things? well, we learned today that this was going to be the last money michael cohen ever received from the trump organization. in these payments they included everything he was owed. they were zeroing him out, he was leaving the company. why was he doing that? because if michael cohen was still a trump organization employee like he had
that was michael agatha christie cohen today. so, for example, why did michael cohen make the hush money payments to stormy daniels from his home equity line of credit rather than from his bank account? we learned today it's because that account was paperless. no statements related to that home equity line of credit are going to be mailed to his house. michael cohen's wife was never going to see some inextricable hundred $30,000 payment on a statement and question him as to what he was up to....
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we have a situation where the entire thing relied on mwai the cohen -- michael cohen, who just at least is a convicted felon and has disbarred and plenty guilty of perjury and financial crime. the judge's own daughter is known democrat political operative. some of the committee, including some colleagues who are advising michael cohen. all of that is occurring when they could bring forward alan who is sitting in rikers. they are not bringing him forward. one could guess because it wouldn't help. this is all playing out while bootstrapping a federal law into the state crime in order to try to navigate statutes of limitation. it is ridiculous. it is absorb what we are seeing unfold. the politicalization of it. now here we sit. my colleagues on this side of the aisle don't like that we simply want to see the best evidence available when, in fact, it is not as one of my colleagues talked about trying to effectively get a second stab at criminal proceedings. this is an impeachment inquiry. that's inherently not a criminal proceeding. it is a unique function of congress. we're investigating v
we have a situation where the entire thing relied on mwai the cohen -- michael cohen, who just at least is a convicted felon and has disbarred and plenty guilty of perjury and financial crime. the judge's own daughter is known democrat political operative. some of the committee, including some colleagues who are advising michael cohen. all of that is occurring when they could bring forward alan who is sitting in rikers. they are not bringing him forward. one could guess because it wouldn't...
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cohen and been watching michael cohen oh, yeah. well, okay. not the, greatest witness with not the greatest reputation in new york. they say, everybody knows he was a jerk, a liar, and and a bully and yet still buscemi gets punched in the face so i've been using the pepe little phrase slow moving coup since before trump got elected and here's the next phase that happened this week. i don't know if you saw this in the paper or wherever you get your news. but the republicans have been showing up at the trial dressed like trump i know it's all funny until it's the law a jd vance centers their that takes warmness, right. ramaswamy, tommy tuberville, the zucker the head of the house, mike johnson, matt gaetz. no wonder trump falls asleep in the trial. he's counting counting his sheep lauren boebert also shut up but only because she heard one of the jury's was hung speaking cat fights. did you see what happened there at the the house oversight committee had a hearing and marjorie taylor greene, who's republican in white got into it with
cohen and been watching michael cohen oh, yeah. well, okay. not the, greatest witness with not the greatest reputation in new york. they say, everybody knows he was a jerk, a liar, and and a bully and yet still buscemi gets punched in the face so i've been using the pepe little phrase slow moving coup since before trump got elected and here's the next phase that happened this week. i don't know if you saw this in the paper or wherever you get your news. but the republicans have been showing up...
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i think michael cohen is the one witness where there should be an attack. if anything i would argue the attack on michael cohen should have been sharper than it was. with stormy daniels, it was completely ineffective. i agree with that, the comments on that. they were really focused on attacking her credibility about whether or not not only the sexual encounter happened but calling her essentially a liar because she was a porn star. saying of course she would have wanted to engage in this encounter all of which is really, you know, irrelevant and besides the point. it wasn't about, it isn't a sexual sought case. i feel like those attacks did not land with the jury in particular with the five women of the jury. also the women in the public. hearing the people exit the courtroom. there was a lot of disgust there. with cohen, i think it is all fair game. this is somebody who has aid a lot of negative things about trump as well. all that is fair game for his cross. >> and expand on that from an optics perspective. >> i thought the cross to stormy daniels was wa
i think michael cohen is the one witness where there should be an attack. if anything i would argue the attack on michael cohen should have been sharper than it was. with stormy daniels, it was completely ineffective. i agree with that, the comments on that. they were really focused on attacking her credibility about whether or not not only the sexual encounter happened but calling her essentially a liar because she was a porn star. saying of course she would have wanted to engage in this...
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former trump fixer michael cohen returns to the stand monday to testify to his role into the alleged hush money payments to stormy daniels. perhaps then the prosecution will seek to get cohen to clarify the discrepancy that emerged thursday during his cross-examination by trump defense attorney todd blanche. the one where he dramatically accused cohen of lying during his testimony earlier in the week about in october 2016 phone call which the prosecution characterized as a conversation between cohen and trump regarding hush money payment. according to records there is a possibility the conversation was between cohen and trump bodyguard keith schiller about a series of prank calls to and from a 14-year-old. the possibility of more dramatic moments might be coming to an end. judge rochon has set closing remarks -- arguments to begin as early as tuesday with jury deliberation to follow. former deputy assistant attorney general and los angeles times legal affairs colleges and fellow at just security both were in the courtroom this week. thank you very much for being here. despite thursda
former trump fixer michael cohen returns to the stand monday to testify to his role into the alleged hush money payments to stormy daniels. perhaps then the prosecution will seek to get cohen to clarify the discrepancy that emerged thursday during his cross-examination by trump defense attorney todd blanche. the one where he dramatically accused cohen of lying during his testimony earlier in the week about in october 2016 phone call which the prosecution characterized as a conversation between...
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his former fix-it man michael cohen is testifying against him in a new york city child that did not seem to go so well. >> oh boy, all i know is on thursday the serial perjurer. it is so disastrous to set legal analyst on cnn and msnbc saying you cannot believe anything this guy says that they are thinking that what is the manhattan jury thinking that's probably made up of a majority of democrats all it takes is a one or two people with common sense to see what jonathan turley, andy mccarthy atand all these have set on this network no crime has been defined. the defense has not done a good job as far as connecting trump to any of them. the start witness completely flopped for them. if it is a hung jury th that the wynford trump if it is an acquittal jet fuel for his campaign because as other trials of phonic wills it atlanta and jack smith those are not going to be happening before election day every legal analyst is saying if that is the case we go back to issues again allow for goes away it's trump versus a biden and their policy positions on the inflation border and crime. trump seems
his former fix-it man michael cohen is testifying against him in a new york city child that did not seem to go so well. >> oh boy, all i know is on thursday the serial perjurer. it is so disastrous to set legal analyst on cnn and msnbc saying you cannot believe anything this guy says that they are thinking that what is the manhattan jury thinking that's probably made up of a majority of democrats all it takes is a one or two people with common sense to see what jonathan turley, andy...
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. >> michael cohen was questioned about his use of tiktok . other people are using the platform to watch the trial. >> michael cohen just testified under oath. r oath. >> today was the funniest day in court. donald trump. >> we are living through this together, and the good news is people taking in the actual facts and discussing it as a country. we will see what the jury decides when they decide it. keep it locked right here on msnbc. keep it locked right here on msnbc. >>> good evening, and welcome to "politicsnation." tonight's lead, stormy days. tonight more than half a million homes and businesses in and around houston, texas, are still without power after punishing storms slammed into the region yesterday, leaving at least seven people dead and putting intense strain on the infrastructure and power grid. the lone star state is weathering political storms as well tonight. outrage is growing over governor greg abbott's pardon of a white army sergeant found guilty of murder -- found guilty of murdering a black lives matter demonstrator in 2
. >> michael cohen was questioned about his use of tiktok . other people are using the platform to watch the trial. >> michael cohen just testified under oath. r oath. >> today was the funniest day in court. donald trump. >> we are living through this together, and the good news is people taking in the actual facts and discussing it as a country. we will see what the jury decides when they decide it. keep it locked right here on msnbc. keep it locked right here on msnbc....
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that was michael cohen explaining all of this to congress. he gave congress the receipts which became a big part of the case. case. >> as exhibit 5 a to the testimony shows, i am providing a copy of a $35,000 check that president trump personally signed from his personal bank account on august 1 of 2017. when he was president of the united states, pursuant to the cover-up, which was the basis of my guilty plea, to reimburse me. the word used by mr. trump's tv lawyer for the legal hush money i paid on his behalf . this $35,000 check was one of 11 check installments that was paid throughout the year while he was president. dent. >> we are joined now by emily and veteran of the manhattan das office. welcome to both of you. here we are. okay? i'm curious, emily, what you think having followed all the way back to when the story first broke, and all these other trials that have been delayed. they are basically all slated for after the election. and then the week started with michael cohen giving a version of that set of events to the jury, and it e
that was michael cohen explaining all of this to congress. he gave congress the receipts which became a big part of the case. case. >> as exhibit 5 a to the testimony shows, i am providing a copy of a $35,000 check that president trump personally signed from his personal bank account on august 1 of 2017. when he was president of the united states, pursuant to the cover-up, which was the basis of my guilty plea, to reimburse me. the word used by mr. trump's tv lawyer for the legal hush...
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michael cohen speaking out now is a form of revenge and then they get into this call that michael cohen testified about this time and it was this october call that lasted one minute and 36 seconds and the defense lawyer said that michael cohen was lying. >>> the crescendo of cross- examination thursday, that was one trump attorney accused him of lying about october 24 call to the phone of trump's security chief. he had testified that he spoke with trump directly on that call but blanche jones the story and cohen wavered saying he believed he spoke with trump that day. did this exchange undermine the rest of cohen's testimony or was him lying at him? do that overplay his hand? >> i believe when cohen said he believed, he spoke to trump. that was problematic because the prosecution has the burden. they have to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt and that case in part hinges on the account that is trump georgia do -- directed him to pay stormy daniels. >> to the can is hard to recall the specifics of a conversation among many conversations from eight years ago? >> is a problem on dire
michael cohen speaking out now is a form of revenge and then they get into this call that michael cohen testified about this time and it was this october call that lasted one minute and 36 seconds and the defense lawyer said that michael cohen was lying. >>> the crescendo of cross- examination thursday, that was one trump attorney accused him of lying about october 24 call to the phone of trump's security chief. he had testified that he spoke with trump directly on that call but...
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cohen in a way that would cause michael cohen to report false information to taxing authorities. so i keep waiting for some bombshell testimony, somebody saying president trump was advised, i was there, i heard the the lawyers say we're worried about this, we're worried this could be a campaign finance violation, and so far i don't think anybody has gotten even close to that. really all you have is michael cohen's testimony saying this is how the payment was structured, and president trump was worried about his campaign primarily, but i'm not sure if that is going to be inform in the minds of all of these jurors. edward: trying to find the crime. kim, politically if we get a hung jury or we get not convicted, what happens politically? what does that a mean? >> well, look, i'm not entirely convinced that a lot of voters or are hugely tuned into this. i think a conviction if -- if they get a conviction, obviously, the president would appeal and argue for a mistrial. that might not come -- the real value of it is joe biden goes into that first debate and from now until the election
cohen in a way that would cause michael cohen to report false information to taxing authorities. so i keep waiting for some bombshell testimony, somebody saying president trump was advised, i was there, i heard the the lawyers say we're worried about this, we're worried this could be a campaign finance violation, and so far i don't think anybody has gotten even close to that. really all you have is michael cohen's testimony saying this is how the payment was structured, and president trump was...
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this very much caught michael cohen offguard. it was the moment. it landed in court. >> eve said this wasn't cohen's error but more likely a blunder by prosecutors. where did they go wrong and what kind of impact could these things have on the case? >> when you are showing a witness information about a call that happened eight years ago you really want to make sure you are orienting that witness to everything going on on that date. if i'm focused on october 24th 2016 i am showing the witness all of their messages that day before and after the call to make sure that they have the proper context for what that call may have been about. again, i agree it seemed like michael cohen was surprised by some messages and maybe he hadn't seen them before. the prosecutor really needed to do that. it is really hard to remember everything you talk about in a call that was a minute and a half long from eight years ago. that kind of orientation is really important and expect the prosecutors to try to do some of that and redirect and make the point to the jury he di
this very much caught michael cohen offguard. it was the moment. it landed in court. >> eve said this wasn't cohen's error but more likely a blunder by prosecutors. where did they go wrong and what kind of impact could these things have on the case? >> when you are showing a witness information about a call that happened eight years ago you really want to make sure you are orienting that witness to everything going on on that date. if i'm focused on october 24th 2016 i am showing...