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trump and his former fixer, michael cohen, he said he agreed to serve as the eyes and ears for rumors that would hurt trump. he said what i would do is publish positive stories about trump and publish negative stories about his opponents. the prosecution showing the jury a series of glowing headlines about then canada trump and derogatory ones about trump's opponents in closing -- including ted cruz. he also testified his company paid a doorman $30,000 for completely untrue story about mr. trump fathering a child with his housekeeper, so the doorman couldn't take the story elsewhere, trying to save mr. trump and the campaign, the potential in person -- embarrassment. the state seeking to hold mr. trump in the criminal contempt for violating the judges gag order that bars him from attacking trial witnesses. >> so they can talk about me and say whatever they want, they can live and i'm not allowed to say anything. i'd love to see everything that's on my mind. >> the defense argued that trump should be permitted to respond to political attacks and the gag order should not cover repost of
trump and his former fixer, michael cohen, he said he agreed to serve as the eyes and ears for rumors that would hurt trump. he said what i would do is publish positive stories about trump and publish negative stories about his opponents. the prosecution showing the jury a series of glowing headlines about then canada trump and derogatory ones about trump's opponents in closing -- including ted cruz. he also testified his company paid a doorman $30,000 for completely untrue story about mr....
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he is going to back up and corroborate test many of michael cohen. we all know michael cohen has a credibility issue, given his prior convictions. he is going to corroborate that, and he's going to show what the payments were for that they weren't payments for legal services, that they were in fact hush money payments, and that leads [ inaudible ] >> one more question for you, renato. judge juan merchan has scheduled another hearing on trump's gag order. why didn't he rule after the first 10 times he allegedly violated the gag order.? >> there is an image of the sword of damocles hanging over your head. i think the judge wants this ruling hanging over the head over trump's lawyer. trump's lawyers now at the end of the day, ask evidence that comes in, they really don't want to be on the judge's bad side, and he is using this as a tool to try and get them to rein in their client as much as possible. >> oh, renato, that's really good. i'm sorry.[ laughter ] i love it when i hear stuff i have not heard before. anthony, i want to turn to the trump's immun
he is going to back up and corroborate test many of michael cohen. we all know michael cohen has a credibility issue, given his prior convictions. he is going to corroborate that, and he's going to show what the payments were for that they weren't payments for legal services, that they were in fact hush money payments, and that leads [ inaudible ] >> one more question for you, renato. judge juan merchan has scheduled another hearing on trump's gag order. why didn't he rule after the first...
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he says he called up trump attorney michael cohen. michael cohen told him don't worry about it. even though it's this time of night, we don't have yet the official transcript from court today, still. but we do have a bunch of reporters in the courtroom and in the overflow room and able to take detailed notes, which is what i'm about to read from now. joshua steinglass, the prosecutor, quotes, did you receive a letter from the federal election commission? >> david pecker, yes. steinglass, did you speak to michael cohen? >> pecker, i said michael i just received this letter what do we do it, and michael cohen said jeff sessions has him in his pocket. i said i am very worried. for the record attorneys general aren't supposed to fit in the president's pocket even if the president wears notoriously wide leg pants. this bill david pecker testified today trump asked about, one of the people whose silence they had paid for, he said trump asked him in 2017 before he was nugerated, quote, how's our girl doing, meaning how's karen mcdougal? david pecker said he told trump in response thing
he says he called up trump attorney michael cohen. michael cohen told him don't worry about it. even though it's this time of night, we don't have yet the official transcript from court today, still. but we do have a bunch of reporters in the courtroom and in the overflow room and able to take detailed notes, which is what i'm about to read from now. joshua steinglass, the prosecutor, quotes, did you receive a letter from the federal election commission? >> david pecker, yes. steinglass,...
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michael cohen would call me and say we would like you to run a negative article on ted cruz. he would send me information about ted cruz or ben carson or marco rubio. that was the basis of our story and we would embellish it from there. steinglass said you would said we would like to you to run a story on the political opponent. who did you understand we to be referring to? michael cohen always told me he was not part of the campaign so i assumed he was talking to mr. trump. when he said we, i thought he was talking about himself and mr. trump. and the national enquirer were by his own admission influencing the 2016 campaign at the direction of his lawyer. then there was what prosecutors allege was doing behind the scene to help trump's campaign. today prosecutors asked mr. about two negative stories about donald trump. stories that the national enquirer purchased the exclusive rights to and then sat on so the accusations against trump would not come out before the election. a process that is now known publicly as catch and kill. the first of these involved a doorman who alle
michael cohen would call me and say we would like you to run a negative article on ted cruz. he would send me information about ted cruz or ben carson or marco rubio. that was the basis of our story and we would embellish it from there. steinglass said you would said we would like to you to run a story on the political opponent. who did you understand we to be referring to? michael cohen always told me he was not part of the campaign so i assumed he was talking to mr. trump. when he said we, i...
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it is fair to say michael cohen was making furtive tapes of his own. you can expect on cross-examination the defense to attack him for that. trials are not supposed about getting someone or going after someone you like for other reasons. they're supposed to be about finding facts beyond a reasonable doubt, for getting to the truth that is some really, really strong evidence that is why the d.a. mentioned it in their opening. they might have 100 exhibits. they don't go through 100. that would bore a jury to tears. it matters so much because it shows the d.a. argue criminal intent. you don't pay large sums in cash, even in new york, even in real estate when you get up to ones of thousands of dollars. that would be bizarre indeed. donald trump has been around the block. he may know, and you may know when you take out a sum of over 10, 15k, it already creates an alert. you take 15k cash out of the atm, it creates a banking alert. that's how suspicious it is. if you take 130k out, authorities are on to it. that's not always the best idea if you don't want t
it is fair to say michael cohen was making furtive tapes of his own. you can expect on cross-examination the defense to attack him for that. trials are not supposed about getting someone or going after someone you like for other reasons. they're supposed to be about finding facts beyond a reasonable doubt, for getting to the truth that is some really, really strong evidence that is why the d.a. mentioned it in their opening. they might have 100 exhibits. they don't go through 100. that would...
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cohen for and understood that without relying entirely on michael cohen? that remains a little bit to be seen. that's part of the case i'm most looking forward to. the most important part of the case because that's the crime as barbara note td, they have to prove that he falsified business records. >> connect those dots. they have to prove that. sam, it was a bit reliving the 2016 campaign yesterday. ted cruz's father being involved somehow in the jfk assassination. to mika's question, whether it's all a joke, we all laughed at those headlines as a kid at the grocery store. there's some element of reliving all this, which is part of what the biden campaign is hoping through all these cases that people will be reminded of how exhausting and how full of lies the trump years, the trump campaign and the trump presidency were. >> yeah, first of all, i'm surprised that maura would slander the publication's good name. they've broken a few amount of alien love child. does mika have a clause in her contract if she mentions david pecker's name a number of times, a b
cohen for and understood that without relying entirely on michael cohen? that remains a little bit to be seen. that's part of the case i'm most looking forward to. the most important part of the case because that's the crime as barbara note td, they have to prove that he falsified business records. >> connect those dots. they have to prove that. sam, it was a bit reliving the 2016 campaign yesterday. ted cruz's father being involved somehow in the jfk assassination. to mika's question,...
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cohen, we know the defense is going after michael cohen's character. what we're hearing from the prosecution is, for instance, michael cohen, when he is to take the stand, they're going to focus less on his character and more about documentation. they're going to be presenting michael cohen with a lot of documents and saying is this accurate, is this not accurate, to take the limelight off michael cohen's character. in this instance, and i only bring that up to juxtapose that to the former president, this is going to be more of a character testimony, hence the reason they're talking about all of the convictions that the former president has faced over the last couple of years, his corporation, trump organization as well, and so it will come down to hearing this information from the former president, along with his attorneys, and making that decision as to whether or not he's going to testify. >> stay with me as i bring in our legal analyst, nbc news legal analyst, danny cevallos, and former new york assistant attorney general adam pollock. what a week.
cohen, we know the defense is going after michael cohen's character. what we're hearing from the prosecution is, for instance, michael cohen, when he is to take the stand, they're going to focus less on his character and more about documentation. they're going to be presenting michael cohen with a lot of documents and saying is this accurate, is this not accurate, to take the limelight off michael cohen's character. in this instance, and i only bring that up to juxtapose that to the former...
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some will have a lot of baggage like michael cohen. you look for, what are the tent poles of hard evidence? that paralegal is going to take the stand and talk about phone records. that's been alluded to about certain key times. you build a time line of when things happened. it can be so devastating, both in terms of just what happened when, because you -- those records don't lie. you can really place certain things in chronological order. you can obviously show that somebody's implicated. if you notice at the outset of david pecker's testimony, he was asked about his telephone numbers. they want to link up to the records they have. on october 26, just before the election, the prosecutor referenced in his opening two telephone calls between michael cohen and donald trump. right after that, michael cohen creates essential consulting, the vehicle used to pay stormy daniels. there will be a lot of pieces like that. then there are witnesses like hope hicks, where you think -- we think we know the whole story. that is somebody, like david pe
some will have a lot of baggage like michael cohen. you look for, what are the tent poles of hard evidence? that paralegal is going to take the stand and talk about phone records. that's been alluded to about certain key times. you build a time line of when things happened. it can be so devastating, both in terms of just what happened when, because you -- those records don't lie. you can really place certain things in chronological order. you can obviously show that somebody's implicated. if...
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he was individual one was michael cohen came into court and pleaded guilty. donald trump is no stranger to being an unindicted something who is named in a criminal document, whether it be an indictment, a complaint. so is this bad for donald trump? yeah. i mean, what we're seeing is that it's up to -- when you talk about the several states, any county prosecutor could decide, you know what? this affected our state, our county. the attorneys general can do the same thing. you know, going back to why so long, what was the delay all about, i totally agree with what lisa said. i'd like to add to it. i mean, it is no surprise that prosecutors were probably wait ing around to see who was going to be the first to do it because it is scary. it is scary to indict a former president of the united states because he has and will fight like heck at every level. and losing a case, maybe one of the first cases against a former president, would be a crushing defeat. so, in my view, from a social perspective, it was no surprise that in just the last year, once the first indic
he was individual one was michael cohen came into court and pleaded guilty. donald trump is no stranger to being an unindicted something who is named in a criminal document, whether it be an indictment, a complaint. so is this bad for donald trump? yeah. i mean, what we're seeing is that it's up to -- when you talk about the several states, any county prosecutor could decide, you know what? this affected our state, our county. the attorneys general can do the same thing. you know, going back to...
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at the heart of the case, $130,000 payment that michael cohen made to daniels so she would not go public, and how prosecutors say that payment was disguised. she testified that even though she no longer works for the trump organization, the company is paying her legal bills. the jury also heard from a former banker and first republic bank employee who helped to facilitate the payment , but the day began with the defense team seeking to undercut testimony of david pecker, the former publisher of the national enquirer, and a key witness for prosecutors , testifying at length about how he helped to silence people who could have hurt mr. trump's election chances. trump's lawyers sought to raise questions about david memory and motive. david pecker was defined at one point, saying "i've been truthful to the best of my recollection ." the tabloid mogul also undermined the idea that trump wanted to bury those stories about women to protect his family, a common refrain from the defense. instead, he said he believed it was all to protect his campaign. >> i do have to begin by wishing melania trum
at the heart of the case, $130,000 payment that michael cohen made to daniels so she would not go public, and how prosecutors say that payment was disguised. she testified that even though she no longer works for the trump organization, the company is paying her legal bills. the jury also heard from a former banker and first republic bank employee who helped to facilitate the payment , but the day began with the defense team seeking to undercut testimony of david pecker, the former publisher of...
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when did michael cohen post something, when did trump post something? so, and there was, and so, if trump is angling for something, he is going to steer it on his own time. >> well, tomorrow would be good for us. thank you all very much for joining us in this discussion tonight. really appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> and coming up, joe biden is putting pressure on donald trump in florida. the president was in florida today. senator elizabeth warren says voters on every state should be concerned about abortion bans. senator warren joins us next. n . febreze has a microchip to control scent release so it smells first-day fresh for 50 days. 50 days!? and its refill reminder light means i'll never miss a day of freshness. ♪ let's get the rest of these plants in. organic soil from miracle-gro has grown me the best garden i have ever had. good soil, and you get good results. this soil will blow you away. it's the martha stewart of soil. everybody wants super straight, super white teeth. they want that hollywood white smile. new sensodyne clinical white pro
when did michael cohen post something, when did trump post something? so, and there was, and so, if trump is angling for something, he is going to steer it on his own time. >> well, tomorrow would be good for us. thank you all very much for joining us in this discussion tonight. really appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> and coming up, joe biden is putting pressure on donald trump in florida. the president was in florida today. senator elizabeth warren says voters on every...
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he says he called up trump attorney michael coming. michael cohen told him don't worry about it. now, even though it is this time of night, we do not yet have the official transcript from court today, still. but, we do have a bunch of reporters who were in the courtroom and were who were in the overflow room and able to take detailed notes, which is what i am about to read from. the prosecutor, "did you receive a letter from the federal election commission? david pecker, yes. when i received criminal record, i called up michael coming. said michael, i just received this letter, what do you do about it? michael cohen said jeff sessions is the attorney general and donald trump has him in his pocket. i said i am very worried. for the record, attorneys general aren't supposed to fit in the presidents pocket, even if a president with notoriously wide leg pants. still, david pecker testified today trump asked about one of the people whose assignments they had paid for . he said trump asked him in january 2017 before he was inaugurated, "how is our girl doing?" meaning how is karen mcdo
he says he called up trump attorney michael coming. michael cohen told him don't worry about it. now, even though it is this time of night, we do not yet have the official transcript from court today, still. but, we do have a bunch of reporters who were in the courtroom and were who were in the overflow room and able to take detailed notes, which is what i am about to read from. the prosecutor, "did you receive a letter from the federal election commission? david pecker, yes. when i...
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the defense is going to try to discredit the main witness, michael cohen. it's going to be harder for other witnesses who are trump loyalists. the reason pecker has been cooperative is because he's under a non-prosecution agreement. he cut a deal with federal prosecutors and has been cooperating with prosecutors ever since. he's a key witness to corroborate michael cohen, but also explain the larger scheme. jurors want to know the why. it's not an element of the crime of falsification of business records, but they want to know the why. that's why he's really important. i also think along the same lines hope hicks will be really important. like david pecker, on the inside, she's someone who doesn't have an axe to grind against donald trump like michael cohen does. that's why there are such key witnesses here. it's going to be harder for the defense to establish bias against people, including hope hicks, who is still in trump's inner circle. >> it will be fascinating. there will be live coverage all day on msnbc. that does it for us this morning. we'll see yo
the defense is going to try to discredit the main witness, michael cohen. it's going to be harder for other witnesses who are trump loyalists. the reason pecker has been cooperative is because he's under a non-prosecution agreement. he cut a deal with federal prosecutors and has been cooperating with prosecutors ever since. he's a key witness to corroborate michael cohen, but also explain the larger scheme. jurors want to know the why. it's not an element of the crime of falsification of...
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but they did not shield michael cohen. he was convicted and imprisoned by the very independent prosecutors who are federal prosecutors during the -era. over the week, the prosecution turned into rhona graff, who appears to be a better turns -- terms on him. the defendant and his company are still paying for her lawyers. you take this all together and what you see is a lot more evidence against than reasonable doubt on his behalf. that does not mean he is losing this case. we are in the da's side. the burden is on them. for a first week, this was not exactly a slow rise or a lot of accounting spreadsheets. this was a two by fours one repeatedly at president donald as a defendant and while some of that came from those prosecutors tough talk in the opening, tonight, we have to remember a lot of that tough talk and incriminating information came from his buddy, tabloid chief david , who said by the end of his testimony, is not personal and he still counts president donald as a friend, but he is telling the truth under oath abo
but they did not shield michael cohen. he was convicted and imprisoned by the very independent prosecutors who are federal prosecutors during the -era. over the week, the prosecution turned into rhona graff, who appears to be a better turns -- terms on him. the defendant and his company are still paying for her lawyers. you take this all together and what you see is a lot more evidence against than reasonable doubt on his behalf. that does not mean he is losing this case. we are in the da's...
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when did michael cohen post something? when did trump post something? and so it shows that if trump is angling for something the judge is going to steer it on its own time. >> well, tomorrow would be good for us, since there is no trial scheduled for tomorrow. turn 24, andrew weissman, neal katyal, thank you. really appreciate it. >>> joe biden is putting pressure on donald trump in florida where republican a portion abortion ban goes into effect. elizabeth warren says voters should be concerned about abortion bans. senator warren joins us next. a once-daily pill for moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, and the chance at clear or almost clear skin. it's like the feeling of finding you're so ready for your close-up. or finding you don't have to hide your skin just your background. once-daily sotyktu was proven better, getting more people clearer skin than the leading pill. don't take if you're allergic to sotyktu; serious reactions can occur. sotyktu can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. serious infections, cancers including lymphoma,
when did michael cohen post something? when did trump post something? and so it shows that if trump is angling for something the judge is going to steer it on its own time. >> well, tomorrow would be good for us, since there is no trial scheduled for tomorrow. turn 24, andrew weissman, neal katyal, thank you. really appreciate it. >>> joe biden is putting pressure on donald trump in florida where republican a portion abortion ban goes into effect. elizabeth warren says voters...
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"if anyone should buy it, it should be donald trump and michael cohen." david pecker said that michael cohen was upset and responded that "the boss would be furious ." david pecker said today he believed trump or his company pay daniels until michael cohen told him in december of 2016 that he was the one who paid her. prosecutors are seeking to prove that mr. trump doctored internal business records to cover up that payment. david pecker testified that trump was aghast when he saw stormy daniels on 60 minutes. >> was it hush money? >> yes. >> david pecker said trump called him and said, we have an agreement with stormy daniels, that she can't mention my name. trump denied knowledge of the arrangement, the cross- examination, trump's lawyers challenged david credibility in business practices. at a campaign event, trump addressed the testimony of his longtime friend. >> david is a nice guy. >> what do we know about the payment to stormy daniels? >> reporter: david pecker testified about a payment his company did make to former playboy model, karen mcdougal,
"if anyone should buy it, it should be donald trump and michael cohen." david pecker said that michael cohen was upset and responded that "the boss would be furious ." david pecker said today he believed trump or his company pay daniels until michael cohen told him in december of 2016 that he was the one who paid her. prosecutors are seeking to prove that mr. trump doctored internal business records to cover up that payment. david pecker testified that trump was aghast when...
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the michael relationship, with michael cohen, he did a lot of dirty work for trump, but then michael has seen the light, went to prison for it, and he's willing to tell the truth now, and that infuriates donald trump, because it is the loyalty issue. everyone is expected to be loyal to trump, but trump is not loyal back to them. i'm curious to see how he behaves when it's michael cohen's turn on the stand. even though they will try to impugn his integrity and all that, that's fine, but there are receipts. this case isn't just based on michael cohen's word on things. there are other people corroborating this, and david pecker being one of them. that's why he went first. >> dave i wanted to turn to the gag order violations, trump is accused of violating the gag order four more times, bringing the total number of violations to 15. some eagle experts have speculated judge mershon might be willing to rule on these all at once rather separately. will he be asked to spend a night in jail or have consequence for violating these gag orders? >> maybe way down the line, ayman, but i think he's
the michael relationship, with michael cohen, he did a lot of dirty work for trump, but then michael has seen the light, went to prison for it, and he's willing to tell the truth now, and that infuriates donald trump, because it is the loyalty issue. everyone is expected to be loyal to trump, but trump is not loyal back to them. i'm curious to see how he behaves when it's michael cohen's turn on the stand. even though they will try to impugn his integrity and all that, that's fine, but there...
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did you speak to michael cohen? never. when i received criminal record, i called michael cohen. i said, i received this letter, what do we do? michael cullen said, jeff sessions is the attorney general and donald trump has him in his pocket. i said, i'm very worried." attorneys general are not supposed to fit in the presidents pocket even if the president wears notoriously wide pants. still, david pecker testified that trump asked about one of the people whose silence they paid for and he said trump asked in january, 2017, before inauguration, "how's our girl doing?" meaning, how is karen mcdougal. he said that things were fine, she was then quiet. they asked about her again that summer, when he invited david pecker to the white house. he says trump asked, "how is karen doing?" david pecker said he said "i said she's quiet, everything's going good." david pecker said he finally had to put his foot down on any additional payments for trump, because trump was not paying him back like he said he would, first for a doorman, from a trump property who made a wild claim about a supposi
did you speak to michael cohen? never. when i received criminal record, i called michael cohen. i said, i received this letter, what do we do? michael cullen said, jeff sessions is the attorney general and donald trump has him in his pocket. i said, i'm very worried." attorneys general are not supposed to fit in the presidents pocket even if the president wears notoriously wide pants. still, david pecker testified that trump asked about one of the people whose silence they paid for and he...
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the conspiracy between donald trump, michael cohen and david pecker, to catch and kill stories in order to benefit donald trump in the 2016 presidential election. the chickens are coming home to roost for trump . we have joyce vance and hugo lowell onset to break it all down. >>> special counsel jack smith federal election interference case, what some consider to be donald trump's most consequential trial, is hanging in the balance as the united states supreme court considers the question of how far the former president criminal immunity extends. on thursday, the high court hearing oral arguments. according to nbc news, although the court appears likely to reject trumps expensive claim of absolute immunity, it could remand the case for further proceedings. now, if a majority of justices take that route, it would doom the trial to be delayed until after the 2024 election. if trump wins the white house, the case may be thrown out altogether. while we await a decision, trump is not finding much sympathy from republican leadership with senate leader mitch mcconnell saying in an interview on
the conspiracy between donald trump, michael cohen and david pecker, to catch and kill stories in order to benefit donald trump in the 2016 presidential election. the chickens are coming home to roost for trump . we have joyce vance and hugo lowell onset to break it all down. >>> special counsel jack smith federal election interference case, what some consider to be donald trump's most consequential trial, is hanging in the balance as the united states supreme court considers the...
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he's a lawyer and you rely on your lawyers, but michael cohen was a convicted liar. he was a lawyer for many peopleinate just me and he got in trouble for things outside what he did for me. >> seemed to be in direct violation of the order as it is written. i think it's problematic for him especially while the judge is currently sitting and trying to decide the issue. >> tim, you're no longer on the payroll, man. meanwhile, in washington the supreme court will hear arguments this morning in the historic case involving trump and his claim of absolute presidential immunity. trump's legal team argues that presidents have immunity from criminal prosecution for official acts taken while in office. special counsel jack smith's office contends that presidents are not above the law and that even if they are eligible for immunity for some official acts, trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election was not an official presidential act. now, trump's immunity claim has already been rejected by two lower courts, and the special counsel argues that justices should send the case ba
he's a lawyer and you rely on your lawyers, but michael cohen was a convicted liar. he was a lawyer for many peopleinate just me and he got in trouble for things outside what he did for me. >> seemed to be in direct violation of the order as it is written. i think it's problematic for him especially while the judge is currently sitting and trying to decide the issue. >> tim, you're no longer on the payroll, man. meanwhile, in washington the supreme court will hear arguments this...
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but trump's doj didn't actually shield michael cohen. he was convicted and imprisoned by the very independent sdny prosecutors who were prosecutors during the trump era. and by the end of the week they turned to vrana graph. she is frugal but the defendant, his company, they are still paying for her lawyers. you take this all together and what you see is a lot more evidence against trump than reasonable doubt on his behalf. that doesn't mean he's losing this case. we are on the da's side. the burden is on them, but for a first week this wasn't exactly a slow rise or a lot of accounting spreadsheets, this was a 2x4 swung repeatedly at donald trump as a defendant and while some of that came from those prosecutors tough talk in the opening which i read to you, as we get into this in the special tonight, you've got to remember a lot of that tough talk and incriminating information came from his buddy, tabloid chief david pecker who said by the end of his testimony, it's not personal. he still counts donald trump as a friend, he's just tellin
but trump's doj didn't actually shield michael cohen. he was convicted and imprisoned by the very independent sdny prosecutors who were prosecutors during the trump era. and by the end of the week they turned to vrana graph. she is frugal but the defendant, his company, they are still paying for her lawyers. you take this all together and what you see is a lot more evidence against trump than reasonable doubt on his behalf. that doesn't mean he's losing this case. we are on the da's side. the...
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obviously, this is what happened to michael cohen. so, one thing mr. trump is very, very good at, alex, is moving the goal post on people. i think what was most interesting about the testimony of the last couple of days, is that david pecker has seen this movie before. so, he was not interested in having the goalposts moved on him. he was willing to do a few favors for mr. trump, and then he decided that that was going to be enough for him. he wasn't going to be mr. trump's bank. so, it is a frustrating thing because, listen, everybody is innocent until proven guilty, and this is a criminal case. so, i will just say, everybody is innocent until proven guilty. but, let's face it. people on that campaign team knew about the veracity of the facts associated with this case. >> so, hope hicks being named on the prosecution witness list, how pivotal a role might she play in the trial? >> well, since she is a really good person, i have enormous amount of respect for her, and i think she is going to tell the truth. so, whatever her truth is in terms of interac
obviously, this is what happened to michael cohen. so, one thing mr. trump is very, very good at, alex, is moving the goal post on people. i think what was most interesting about the testimony of the last couple of days, is that david pecker has seen this movie before. so, he was not interested in having the goalposts moved on him. he was willing to do a few favors for mr. trump, and then he decided that that was going to be enough for him. he wasn't going to be mr. trump's bank. so, it is a...
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and that is, he is taking the weight off of michael cohen. it will be the defense actually who will try to build up the importance of cohen. prosecution doesn't have to. combination of basically setting the stage for explaining why they ended up doing what they did with stormy daniels. and, basically explaining, and the paper work. you don't need that much from cohen. so it is a pretty, it is a pretty powerful presentation. we will see how he does on cross. >> what will the defense do in try to destroy his credibility? when you are the publisher of one of the biggest lab toyed ins the world for decades there will be holes to fill. >> i guess there are. but i mean whose buddy was he? >> yes. yes. >> so i'm not sure how they will do that. i'm sure they have something. but if acts with the demeanor and the calmness that he has been showing in the courtroom and doesn't try to fight on cross and do the things you don't want witnesses to do on cross like get defensive. just stick to the facts. you can see what you have to concede. he could end up,
and that is, he is taking the weight off of michael cohen. it will be the defense actually who will try to build up the importance of cohen. prosecution doesn't have to. combination of basically setting the stage for explaining why they ended up doing what they did with stormy daniels. and, basically explaining, and the paper work. you don't need that much from cohen. so it is a pretty, it is a pretty powerful presentation. we will see how he does on cross. >> what will the defense do in...
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he prospectively cooperates what michael cohen is in for. they are calling him just cohen, not even mr. cohen. he cooperates much of what he was going to say. his testimony will be in the broad middle. by david pecker, by the paper, and in other words, they are not relying on them. also making it clear this is about the campaign, nothing else. >> so tim, pecker agreed the story about astar, and it was gold. it could have been taken to the bank. what is the significant of this ? and what is the extent of the sacrifice that pecker was making to help trump? >> he was making a big financial sacrifice, alex. it certainly would be better if it has a screaming headline about the extramarital affair. and rather than crimped that story. he agrees not to and directly benefiting the trump campaign. the significance of that, that is the underlying crime. and the reason for the falsification of the records. the government has to approve that these records were falsified for the underlying purpose for protecting the campaign. they were effectively campaig
he prospectively cooperates what michael cohen is in for. they are calling him just cohen, not even mr. cohen. he cooperates much of what he was going to say. his testimony will be in the broad middle. by david pecker, by the paper, and in other words, they are not relying on them. also making it clear this is about the campaign, nothing else. >> so tim, pecker agreed the story about astar, and it was gold. it could have been taken to the bank. what is the significant of this ? and what...
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to obtain a $130,000 home equity loan which michael cohen later funneled to stormy daniels through a shell company. friday, he authenticated bank records which prosecutors showed to jurors. that testimony will continue in trial resumes tuesday morning. prosecutors are using his testimony to authenticate documents related to the transaction. that testimony continues when the trial resumes tuesday morning. judge merchan announced a gag order hearing will take place thursday, to hear new arguments about all of the alleged violations that donald trump has committed this week. leaving off our discussion, we were in the courtroom and will be every day of the trial. a fellow at security and the former supervisor of the prosecutions and civil rights union of the eastern district of new york. good evening. unlike a lot of trump supporters and family, you've been there watching what's going on. tell us what happened. we had interesting testimony. >> we did. the first and foremost thing, we had the end of david testimony. this has been a weeklong testimony that sent the course of this trial on.
to obtain a $130,000 home equity loan which michael cohen later funneled to stormy daniels through a shell company. friday, he authenticated bank records which prosecutors showed to jurors. that testimony will continue in trial resumes tuesday morning. prosecutors are using his testimony to authenticate documents related to the transaction. that testimony continues when the trial resumes tuesday morning. judge merchan announced a gag order hearing will take place thursday, to hear new arguments...
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but trump's doj didn't actually shield michael cohen. he was convicted and imprisoned by the prosecutors who are federal prosecutors during the trump era. by the end of the week, prosecution turned to a trump employee who appear to be on better terms with him than cohen. trump is frugal but they are still paying for her lawyers. you take this all together, you see a lot more evidence against trump than reasonable doubt on his behalf. that doesn't mean he is losing this case. we are on the da's side. but this wasn't exactly a slow rise. as we get into this, you have to remember a lot of the tough talk and incriminating information came from his buddy. cab lloyd chief david pecker who said by the end of his testimony is not personal. he still counts donald trump as a friend. how bad is it? we have two special guests with me at the table. when we are back in 90 seconds. i want from my metastatic breast cancer treatment. and with kisqali, i can have both. kisqali is a pill that when taken with an aromatase inhibitor helps delay cancer from g
but trump's doj didn't actually shield michael cohen. he was convicted and imprisoned by the prosecutors who are federal prosecutors during the trump era. by the end of the week, prosecution turned to a trump employee who appear to be on better terms with him than cohen. trump is frugal but they are still paying for her lawyers. you take this all together, you see a lot more evidence against trump than reasonable doubt on his behalf. that doesn't mean he is losing this case. we are on the da's...
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trump and michael cohen. mr. pecker asaid he agreed to serve as the eyes and ears for rumors that could hurt plump. atsdsing, what i would do is publish positive stories about mr. trump and publish negative stories about his opponents. ection exposing a series of headlines about then candidate trump and derogatory comments making baseless claims about his opponents including ted cruz. pecker admitted today and also testifying his company paid a doorman $30,000 for a completely untrue story about mr. trump fathering a child with his housekeeper so the doorman couldn't take the story else where, trying to save mr. trump and the campaign the potential embarrassment. >> that was nbc's laura jarrett with that report. and joining us now is former assistant district attorney in manhattan catherine christian, and also an nbc legal analyst. thank you for joining us. let's just get your reaction to the david pecker testimony on the witness stand yesterday. how does it help the prosecution? >> it's very helpful, and it's no
trump and michael cohen. mr. pecker asaid he agreed to serve as the eyes and ears for rumors that could hurt plump. atsdsing, what i would do is publish positive stories about mr. trump and publish negative stories about his opponents. ection exposing a series of headlines about then candidate trump and derogatory comments making baseless claims about his opponents including ted cruz. pecker admitted today and also testifying his company paid a doorman $30,000 for a completely untrue story...
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the defense is going to try to put michael cohen on trial. they're going to try to raise reasonable doubt that this guy is a convicted liar. they're going to try to concept over the part he hide to protect donald trump. they're going to try to say you cannot believe anything this guy says. he's a key witness, and if you don't believe him, the whole case goes away. the prosecution is going to show they've got corroboration. the first witness is going to be david pecker, the guy who can corroborate michael cohen and used to be on trump's side. he's going to set the stage for what this is about. this is not a one-off payment to stormy daniels, but a scheme to prevent things being said. karen mcdougal is expected to testify. a doorman apparently had information that turned out to be false about trump's love child. i think it's damaging for the former president who's going to use the sergeant schultz defense, i know nothing. >> you look at how the prosecutors are going to paint a picture after the "access hollywood" case comes out. i was covering
the defense is going to try to put michael cohen on trial. they're going to try to raise reasonable doubt that this guy is a convicted liar. they're going to try to concept over the part he hide to protect donald trump. they're going to try to say you cannot believe anything this guy says. he's a key witness, and if you don't believe him, the whole case goes away. the prosecution is going to show they've got corroboration. the first witness is going to be david pecker, the guy who can...
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cohen was involved in, there was a time he was saying you have to ask michael cohen. is there a window in which prior to being president and during presidency, that could be applied? >> most likely not, even though he signed a check while he was president, a check that went to michael cohen, that ultimately went to stormy daniels, it all related back to conduct that took place before he became president and he was sort of wrapping it up it was in no way a presidential duty and i've not team are you it was a presidential duty. >> carol and molly, thank you . >>> still ahead, what to do about major ethics concerns on the supreme court. congresswoman stansbury has an idea. she joins me, next. nering on 5g-powered analytics to help improve player performance. t-mobile's network helps aaa stay connected nationwide... to get their members back on the road. and las vegas grand prix chose t-mobile to help fuel operations for one of the world's largest racing events. now is the time to see what america's largest 5g network can do for your business. hello, ghostbusters. it's do
cohen was involved in, there was a time he was saying you have to ask michael cohen. is there a window in which prior to being president and during presidency, that could be applied? >> most likely not, even though he signed a check while he was president, a check that went to michael cohen, that ultimately went to stormy daniels, it all related back to conduct that took place before he became president and he was sort of wrapping it up it was in no way a presidential duty and i've not...
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part of what the prosecution accomplished is that it is not michael cohen's show, it is going to be the david show right now. i think they did a good job of that. when were talking about cases, were talking about cases where people were killed or someone suffered a injury. that is what the case is and that is important because jury 's acquit. is a documents case and there's ample reason to convict him with what the defense did on the other side, the prosecution won inside the courtroom and the defense won inside the courtroom and we will explore this more later on but they did effectively manage to establish that former president trump is in fact above the law and as a defense team, they are also above the law. see people get thrown what we call the box, which is essentially a jail cell at the courthouse for not calling a judge serve. and i've seen defense lawyers get a lot of trouble just by making the judge angry and when it happens, only other ruling stop going your way. here we saw the judge say you are losing all credibility, sir, they did not bat an eye. that could match her terms
part of what the prosecution accomplished is that it is not michael cohen's show, it is going to be the david show right now. i think they did a good job of that. when were talking about cases, were talking about cases where people were killed or someone suffered a injury. that is what the case is and that is important because jury 's acquit. is a documents case and there's ample reason to convict him with what the defense did on the other side, the prosecution won inside the courtroom and the...
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of course michael cohen was lying. in large part to try to protect donald trump and keep him out of hot water. but it's not the question of whether a witness lied previously that will convince a jury about the strength or weakness of the case. it's whether they are telling the truth now and whether they have corroborated with things like covert audio recordings of donald trump and michael cohen conspiring to commit the crime. check with hard evidence like documents, reimbursement checks that donald trump was writing including out of the oval office. you take the weakness and you turn it into a strength because you would talk about the motive for lying, which was to help his former boss. i'm not all that concerned that if the jury will follow the evidence and applies the instruction of laws as they give it to him. i am fairly confident that they might end up convicting donald trump and they might do it in a new york minute. >> and glen, they have had to worry about their identities being leaked. a couple have been asked
of course michael cohen was lying. in large part to try to protect donald trump and keep him out of hot water. but it's not the question of whether a witness lied previously that will convince a jury about the strength or weakness of the case. it's whether they are telling the truth now and whether they have corroborated with things like covert audio recordings of donald trump and michael cohen conspiring to commit the crime. check with hard evidence like documents, reimbursement checks that...
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the prosecutor is going to say, you will hear from michael cohen and he has been held responsible for line. he pled guilty to some crimes, but we didn't choose michael cohen, this is the kind of person donald trump hangs out with. that is what you expect when you go up against somebody who is a crook. they are surrounded by other crooks. meanwhile, the prosecutor is going to say, listen, the witnesses you are going to hear from have no ax to grind or the people who work with him like hope hicks, who's completely loyal to him, so you are not only going to have a preview of what the case is, you're going to have a pre-rebuttal of some of the cross examination that you may see later on in the case. and it is going to be interesting to see, how the prosecution deals with michael cohen and how far they go to prepare the jury for someone, who has had his troubles telling the truth in the past. but nevertheless, they think is a reliable witness in this case, because virtually all of what he had to testify is backed up by documentary evidence. >> i appreciate both of you. that is going to be
the prosecutor is going to say, you will hear from michael cohen and he has been held responsible for line. he pled guilty to some crimes, but we didn't choose michael cohen, this is the kind of person donald trump hangs out with. that is what you expect when you go up against somebody who is a crook. they are surrounded by other crooks. meanwhile, the prosecutor is going to say, listen, the witnesses you are going to hear from have no ax to grind or the people who work with him like hope...
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he was a lawyer, and you rely on your lawyers, but michael cohen was a convicted liar. he was a lawyer for many people, not just me. and he got in trouble because of things outside of what he did for me. >> that was an interview with a local news station, seems like a potential additional violation of the gag order. we're still waiting on the judge's decision on that gag order. but he did have an interaction with trump's lawyers yesterday in the gag order hearing that gives you a sense of where his head's at, right? he told judge merchan, you are losing all credibility with the court. that moment, lisa mentioned, stood out to all of us who were following along with the proceedings. how unusual is it to have a judge say that to a lawyer in a hearing like this and what do you think he's going to do? >> this is the first time i've ever heard it. i mean, it's key as a lawyer, you advocate for your client, but you need to be credible. you need to come across as being credible and advocate for your client at the same time, so the fact that the judge said this is very, very po
he was a lawyer, and you rely on your lawyers, but michael cohen was a convicted liar. he was a lawyer for many people, not just me. and he got in trouble because of things outside of what he did for me. >> that was an interview with a local news station, seems like a potential additional violation of the gag order. we're still waiting on the judge's decision on that gag order. but he did have an interaction with trump's lawyers yesterday in the gag order hearing that gives you a sense of...
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if anyone should buy it, pecker said, it should be donald trump and michael cohen. trump's former fixer. pecker says when he told cohen, quote, he was upset and responded that the boss, referring to trump, would be furious with me. pecker said he believed mr. trump or his company had paid daniels until cohen told him in december of 2016 that he was the one who paid her. prosecutors are seeking to prove mr. trump doctored internal business records to cover up that payment. pecker also testified trump was aghast when he saw stormy daniels on "60 minutes." >> was it hush money to stay silent? >> yes. >> reporter: pecker said trump called him. he said, we have an agreement with stormy daniels that she cannot mention my name. trump later denied knowledge of the arrangement. on cross-examination, mr. trump's lawyers challenging pecker's credibility and business practices. at a campaign event earlier in the day, mr. trump addressed the testimony of his long-time friend. >> david has been very nice, a nice guy. >> did you know about the payment to stormy daniels before the
if anyone should buy it, pecker said, it should be donald trump and michael cohen. trump's former fixer. pecker says when he told cohen, quote, he was upset and responded that the boss, referring to trump, would be furious with me. pecker said he believed mr. trump or his company had paid daniels until cohen told him in december of 2016 that he was the one who paid her. prosecutors are seeking to prove mr. trump doctored internal business records to cover up that payment. pecker also testified...
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there was points, michael cohen was the point person in this, but there was -- pecker was describing phone calls where michael cohen would say, you know, put out a story on ben carson and he would send over, you know, some information, and david pecker said they would quote, unquote embellish it at the magazine and run a story but it was story after story after story on ben carson, on ted cruz and this relationship, you know, was mutually beneficial at a point early in their relationship, you know, in the apprentice days, but this just became -- it was clear sitting there from the way david pecker was telling it, they were trying to influence the election at this point. and every time somebody was trending in the polls, one of donald trump's opponents, they would turn up the volume on the negative stories at the "national enquirer,". >> so it is probably not true there were aliens from another dimension living among us when the "national enquirer" was publishing that kind of stuff too. it gives you the level that they were talking about and the things that they were creating. >> and
there was points, michael cohen was the point person in this, but there was -- pecker was describing phone calls where michael cohen would say, you know, put out a story on ben carson and he would send over, you know, some information, and david pecker said they would quote, unquote embellish it at the magazine and run a story but it was story after story after story on ben carson, on ted cruz and this relationship, you know, was mutually beneficial at a point early in their relationship, you...
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you tell him that if he continues to talk on social media about witnesses like michael cohen and stormy daniels that not only is he liable for a thousand dollars an insult, he could actually go to jail. in new york the judge is allowed to sentence up to 30 days for each contempt of court finding. so maybe that will make a difference for trump. i doubt that it will, if we think about a thousand dollars, that might be chump change for trump. it might actually be worth it for him if he's able for just a thousand dollars to insult people like michael cohen and stormy daniels. so jail will be the real disincentive, and i wouldn't, if i were trump, i wouldn't play with judge merchan on that scoreboard. >> so before we go, paul, i want to play something for you because it gives us some insight from what is called the prosecution's star witness, michael cohen, who went live last night on the social media app, tiktok, and here's what he said. >> but i promise you that the prosecutorial team, they're really something special. this is -- and i've -- listen, as i'm sure you -- you got to all be awa
you tell him that if he continues to talk on social media about witnesses like michael cohen and stormy daniels that not only is he liable for a thousand dollars an insult, he could actually go to jail. in new york the judge is allowed to sentence up to 30 days for each contempt of court finding. so maybe that will make a difference for trump. i doubt that it will, if we think about a thousand dollars, that might be chump change for trump. it might actually be worth it for him if he's able for...
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the third witness was gary farro, a former manager at the bank michael cohen used to obtain a $130,000 home equity loan which cohen funneled to stormy daniels through a shell company. on friday, he authenticated bank records from that shell company, which prosecutors showed to jurors. testimony will continue when the trial resumes tuesday morning. prosecutors are using his testimony to authenticate documents related to the transaction. gary farro's testimony will continue when the trial resumes tuesday morning. judge merchan also noticed that a gag order hearing will take place on thursday to hear evidence about the new violations donald trump has committed this week. leading up our discussion, he was in the courtroom today and will be every day. former supervisor of the special prosecutions and civil rights unit of the eastern district of new york. good evening to both of you. unlike a lot of donald trump supporters and family, you have been there, watching what is going on. tell us what happened. we had three interesting pieces of testimony. >> we did and first and foremost we had th
the third witness was gary farro, a former manager at the bank michael cohen used to obtain a $130,000 home equity loan which cohen funneled to stormy daniels through a shell company. on friday, he authenticated bank records from that shell company, which prosecutors showed to jurors. testimony will continue when the trial resumes tuesday morning. prosecutors are using his testimony to authenticate documents related to the transaction. gary farro's testimony will continue when the trial resumes...
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stormy daniels and michael cohen . stormy daniels said she had with trump in 2006, which trump denies. and she was paid off for being silent. 34 counts of falsifying business records to influence the 2016 election. the former president of the united states and the republican presumptive nominee is found guilty, he could face up to for years in prison. >> thank you. let's go to the former bronx, new york assistant district attorney. she was in court for the first week. and the former prosecutor in the district attorney's office in texas and now a civil rights attorney. welcome to both of you. while trump's sits for the hush money trial tomorrow, the judge will hear an argument to reject the bond. does this mean he might again be facing seizure of assets? >> thank you for having me. i think that this certainly puts us in to it an unprecedented situation where we were a few weeks ago where there were concerns that he was not going to make this bond. we would be back to square one. if this bond is voided, the attorney gene
stormy daniels and michael cohen . stormy daniels said she had with trump in 2006, which trump denies. and she was paid off for being silent. 34 counts of falsifying business records to influence the 2016 election. the former president of the united states and the republican presumptive nominee is found guilty, he could face up to for years in prison. >> thank you. let's go to the former bronx, new york assistant district attorney. she was in court for the first week. and the former...
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even michael cohen worked on intimidation, stormy daniels said people came up to her with her daughter in the parking lot. remember, his mentor was roy cohn, someone famously disbarred for his malfeasance. i do think this is very much to be expected. and it runs contrary to what the laws are. >> the two important witnesses we will hear from, stormy daniels and michael cohen, the pressure on them must be remarkable because people know them and they have a presence. they will be targeted despite the fact there are rules that say donald trump cannot do this. great to see you both in real life. joanne, great to see you . molly jong-fast is a special correspondent of "vanity fair" and a msnbc analyst . msnbc is the author of the relevant book, "the field of blood." >>> the house is debating i had a four expected votes, aid for ukraine and israel, security with taiwan and tiktok, i will discuss those pieces of legislation and the important room the democrats play in helping speaker johnson get those votes to the floor in the first place. congressman adam smith of the armed services committee
even michael cohen worked on intimidation, stormy daniels said people came up to her with her daughter in the parking lot. remember, his mentor was roy cohn, someone famously disbarred for his malfeasance. i do think this is very much to be expected. and it runs contrary to what the laws are. >> the two important witnesses we will hear from, stormy daniels and michael cohen, the pressure on them must be remarkable because people know them and they have a presence. they will be targeted...
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when stormy daniels takes the stand, if michael cohen takes a stand, when these things happen, it will only increase the amount of pressure and stress collectively on everyone who is a stakeholder in the process. that will increase anything that is very different. >> to both of your points, and i made this point when we were driving in this hour. you sort of laid out the tiktok of what happened in that jury selection process. and then of course, the hours after that you have josie waters on fox news as the daily beast reports sowing doubt in his segment regarding the jurors with a quote "i think at this point, we can say that it won't be an acquittal. what the hell do you have to base that on mr. waters? this is the problem. you are absolutely right that monday morning, you could have jurors come in who are like, i just don't want to be part of this. but that is the point, folks. that is what the josie waters and trump fans want to have happen. they want to poison the outcome. they want to undermine the system of justice and the risk that these individuals are taking is an important ri
when stormy daniels takes the stand, if michael cohen takes a stand, when these things happen, it will only increase the amount of pressure and stress collectively on everyone who is a stakeholder in the process. that will increase anything that is very different. >> to both of your points, and i made this point when we were driving in this hour. you sort of laid out the tiktok of what happened in that jury selection process. and then of course, the hours after that you have josie waters...
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michael cohen was at the start of the catch and kill trial, as was david pecker from the national enquirer. or they could go back and start with stormy daniels. what would you anticipate being that first witness? >> yeah, it's a great and big question. cohen, they said, is going to be the sort of tour guide, but i think it would be a mistake and they won't start with him. my best guess is pecker. they'll start through macdougal and set things up for either that or a very sort of banal witness that just goes through paperwork. i think they'll start with low emotional intensity but then try to frame the story and have cohen somewhere in the middle. you don't want him as the last, you don't want him as the first. >> and give us a sense of what we should expect to see, lisa, on monday morning at 9:30 sharp. >> 9:30 sharp, we're going to have a little judicial house keeping. merchan is going to tell us what the permissible scope of the cross-examination is about trump's prior misconduct and unlawful acts. after that, we get straight to opening statements from the d.a.'s office and then in turn
michael cohen was at the start of the catch and kill trial, as was david pecker from the national enquirer. or they could go back and start with stormy daniels. what would you anticipate being that first witness? >> yeah, it's a great and big question. cohen, they said, is going to be the sort of tour guide, but i think it would be a mistake and they won't start with him. my best guess is pecker. they'll start through macdougal and set things up for either that or a very sort of banal...
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and then went on to say that michael cohen, the star witness of this case, michael cohen's son actually works at this potential juror's company. and so there is a lot of interesting kind of nuggets to take away from this potential jury pool and we're all going to hear that come out, of course in that q&a portion of the voir dire. the voir dire process is extended by five minutes for each side, asked early this morning by attorneys if they could get five more minutes because of the larger jury pool, right? 22, now 19. and judge juan merchan granted that. >> david, jury selection was anticipated to pay weeks, maybe two weeks. but we're nearly done after just four days. what do you make of the pace of this case so far? >> jose, i'm less focused on the pace than i am how generous the judge has been with the defense, with regard to jury selection. i'm not saying the judge has done anything improper, but what often happens in jury selection is you ask who here cannot be fair and impartial, people raise their hand, then you have follow-up, if i explain the law to you, are you telling me you're
and then went on to say that michael cohen, the star witness of this case, michael cohen's son actually works at this potential juror's company. and so there is a lot of interesting kind of nuggets to take away from this potential jury pool and we're all going to hear that come out, of course in that q&a portion of the voir dire. the voir dire process is extended by five minutes for each side, asked early this morning by attorneys if they could get five more minutes because of the larger...
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michael cohen has set on nbc own airways that he is worried about his physical safety. these are the kinds of things that happen on a mob trial or a terrorism trial. they do not happen around the trial of a former president. he is not only at risk, i think, of the jury -- whatever the jury is, having a bad disposition towards him, i think he is also at risk of further sanctions from merchan. judge merchan is incumbent on him to move be on civil fines because i don't think that will change his behavior. >> you also write trump's recent and heated efforts suggest there may be other incriminating evidence in the courtroom that has not become public yet. he is given every indication he is worried and he has something to hide. what that look like? what should we be watching for? >> that is where the witness list becomes crucial. hope hicks is testifying. in the hurley session at early stages when he was lying about various elements of the facts that the president has faced and that he later acknowledged, she was on the front lines running cover for him. who knows what conver
michael cohen has set on nbc own airways that he is worried about his physical safety. these are the kinds of things that happen on a mob trial or a terrorism trial. they do not happen around the trial of a former president. he is not only at risk, i think, of the jury -- whatever the jury is, having a bad disposition towards him, i think he is also at risk of further sanctions from merchan. judge merchan is incumbent on him to move be on civil fines because i don't think that will change his...
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what trump is complaining about publicly is that michael cohen is out there saying -- and other witnesses saying things about donald trump, but the fact is there's no gag order against them. it's only against trump at this point. i think these are some of the factors that the judge has to weigh at that hearing he's going to have next week about whether donald trump has violated the gag order, and if so, how much punishment how old he be subject to. >> joyce, what do you make of how judge merchan has handled this process so far, particularly with trump's inclination to push the boundaries of what's allowed? >> there's been some concern about the lengthy period of time he permitted before the hearing will take place, but, ana, the judge isn't completely a free actor here. he's constrained by new york law. what the d.a. has asked for his criminal contempt, this is not civil contempt, and there's a provision of new york law that says that if the violation of the gag order occurs in front of the judge, then the judge can act to impose several penalties. for instance, these fines are close to t
what trump is complaining about publicly is that michael cohen is out there saying -- and other witnesses saying things about donald trump, but the fact is there's no gag order against them. it's only against trump at this point. i think these are some of the factors that the judge has to weigh at that hearing he's going to have next week about whether donald trump has violated the gag order, and if so, how much punishment how old he be subject to. >> joyce, what do you make of how judge...
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as to that credibility, he has somewhat less credibility issues than michael cohen. so i think a very effective witness for the state and a really tough witness to cross for the defense. >> we don't use the word scoundrel enough in our coverage enough, danny cevallos. thank you for joining us and giving us new vocab words. >>> still ahead we'll look at president biden's new to nikki haley supporters. plus harvey weinstein's rape convictions in new york overturned. will it lead to a new trial? those stories and a check on sports and weather when we come back. a check on sports and weather when we come back ah, these bills are crazy. she has no idea she's sitting on a goldmine. well she doesn't know that if she owns a life insurance policy of $100,000 or more she can sell all or part of it to coventry for cash. even a term policy. even a term policy? even a term policy! find out if you're sitting on a goldmine. call coventry direct today at the number on your screen, or visit coventrydirect.com. [coughing] copd hasn't been pretty. it's tough to breathe and tough to kee
as to that credibility, he has somewhat less credibility issues than michael cohen. so i think a very effective witness for the state and a really tough witness to cross for the defense. >> we don't use the word scoundrel enough in our coverage enough, danny cevallos. thank you for joining us and giving us new vocab words. >>> still ahead we'll look at president biden's new to nikki haley supporters. plus harvey weinstein's rape convictions in new york overturned. will it lead to...
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once she made the deal with michael cohen and donald trump, she was prepared to deny that it had happened. i couldn't say here's her story, and she denies it. that was the dilemma i had right before the election. >> so many people are curious about her, and curious about how she'll present as a witness. she has done a college tour. she's answered a lot of questions on this college tour, and we see it in a recent documentary. it's called "stormy." it aired on peacock, which is owned by nbc universal, and nbc's news division didn't have any role in creating the documentary, but i want to play just a little clip. again, she is at oxford, actually, where she was speaking. here it is. >> i really wanted to use my platform to prove that i could not be bullied, that women could not be quieted or hushed. >> with the recent indictment, is it dangerous to speak out in public. >> there's that saying, hiding out in plain view. if i hide away, it feeds the bully. it's just going to make it worse. >> based on the time you spent with her, how do you think she'll present as a witness. far lot of people w
once she made the deal with michael cohen and donald trump, she was prepared to deny that it had happened. i couldn't say here's her story, and she denies it. that was the dilemma i had right before the election. >> so many people are curious about her, and curious about how she'll present as a witness. she has done a college tour. she's answered a lot of questions on this college tour, and we see it in a recent documentary. it's called "stormy." it aired on peacock, which is...
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i think that you'll see other witnesses like hope hicks, like michael cohen just put on additional layers in filling out this picture of exactly how the scheme played out. >> now, pivoting right here to washington, as you heard me discuss with congressman thompson, the supreme court's conservative justices, many of whom were nominated by trump, appeared to at least considered his claim of total presidential immunity this week, some suggesting that such immunity was necessary for our democracy to function. the court's ruling is expected some time between now and july. what happens after that? >> well, it depends on what the court rules. rev, i was actually really surprised after this argument and during the argument. i thought that the supreme court would, perhaps, take its sweet time in issuing any ruling which would push off the possibility of a trial beyond the election, but i was really struck by the comments by some of the conservative justices who, as you said, really entertained this notion that a president would have immunity. not only that he would have it but that it would be nec
i think that you'll see other witnesses like hope hicks, like michael cohen just put on additional layers in filling out this picture of exactly how the scheme played out. >> now, pivoting right here to washington, as you heard me discuss with congressman thompson, the supreme court's conservative justices, many of whom were nominated by trump, appeared to at least considered his claim of total presidential immunity this week, some suggesting that such immunity was necessary for our...
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that transaction is then put back on michael cohen and trump because pecker doesn't want to front any more money. what i found extraordinary today, many extraordinary moments, but one of them and i think this was brilliant by the prosecution, really showing how the deal was structured with karen mcdougal, david pecker knew this was a campaign finance violation. the waythy structured that contract for the fitness columns which had an assigned reporter to ghost write them and she was unhappy with her fitness column, the first one. she didn't like it because the ghost writer had mentioned the benefits of vitamin d in the column. she said i want a new ghost writer which david pecker spoke on the stand today. it really kind of drove home for me, joy, that the way they structured that agreement, they were aware of the finance. >> they wanted to be paid back because they didn't want to show it on their books. they were hoping donald trump would persony give back the money, the $150,000. they were going to deduct $25,000, what seas actually getting paid to be our fitness columnist and you're
that transaction is then put back on michael cohen and trump because pecker doesn't want to front any more money. what i found extraordinary today, many extraordinary moments, but one of them and i think this was brilliant by the prosecution, really showing how the deal was structured with karen mcdougal, david pecker knew this was a campaign finance violation. the waythy structured that contract for the fitness columns which had an assigned reporter to ghost write them and she was unhappy with...
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cohen that have gotten him in this pickle in the first place. the escalation is happening even before the verdict or ruling comes out on these existing violations. >> yus, poking the bear quite literally. well, hopefully the guardrails will narrow tomorrow when the trial begins again with dave pecker on the stand. lisa rubin, brian stelter, no two better people to talk about this with. >>> still ahead tonight i'll talk with congresswoman ilhan omar about the massive protests. tomorrow morning the supreme court will finally hear arguments on the question donald trump hopes is his get out of jail free card. is he immune from prosecution for everything he did while he was president? that's next. for everything he did while he was president? that's next. these bills are crae has no idea she's sitting on a goldmine. well she doesn't know that if she owns a life insurance policy of $100,000 or more she can sell all or part of it to coventry for cash. even a term policy. even a term policy? even a term policy! find out if you're sitting on a goldmine.
cohen that have gotten him in this pickle in the first place. the escalation is happening even before the verdict or ruling comes out on these existing violations. >> yus, poking the bear quite literally. well, hopefully the guardrails will narrow tomorrow when the trial begins again with dave pecker on the stand. lisa rubin, brian stelter, no two better people to talk about this with. >>> still ahead tonight i'll talk with congresswoman ilhan omar about the massive protests....
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cohen that have gotten him in this pickle in the first place. so, you know, the escalation is happening even before the verdict or the ruling comes out on these existing violations. >> yes, poking the bear literally. hopefully the guardrails will narrow tomorrow. when the trial begins again with david pecker on the stand. lisa and bryan, no two better people to talk about this with. thank you for your time. >>> still ahead tonight, i will talk to congresswoman ilhan omar about the protests in gaza. but first, tomorrow morning at 10:00 a.m. sharp, the supreme court will finally hear arguments on the question donald trump hopes is his get out of jail free card. is he immune from prosecution for everything he did while he was president? that's next. e he was president? that's next. type 2 diabetes? discover the ozempic® tri-zone. ♪ ♪ i got the power of 3. i lowered my a1c, cv risk, and lost some weight. in studies, the majority of people reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. i'm under 7. ozempic® lowers the risk of major cardiovascular ev
cohen that have gotten him in this pickle in the first place. so, you know, the escalation is happening even before the verdict or the ruling comes out on these existing violations. >> yes, poking the bear literally. hopefully the guardrails will narrow tomorrow. when the trial begins again with david pecker on the stand. lisa and bryan, no two better people to talk about this with. thank you for your time. >>> still ahead tonight, i will talk to congresswoman ilhan omar about...