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wade to be overturned. he still has to rely on that same block of folks who want to use the comstock act to not only outlaw every form of abortion, but even the instruments used in reproductive health care from being able to travel across the interstate. this is the platform that he's running on, and even the media doesn't seem to be getting that right, so i think that the campaign wants to set the record straight that this is a clear choice on this issue in this election from the presidency down to local elections. >> i want to ask you what you think is going on with this discomfort among republicans, matthew, because i would say both in '16 and in '20 when i talked to voters, republican voters, a lot of them would say, yes, i wish donald trump wouldn't say many of the things he says. i wish he acted a little more presidential, but then they would come back to the supreme court and what the appointments he made mean for abortion, and then they would unequivocally support him, and they would say i'm voting
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wade. i want you to take a listen to some of this. >> her little footprints. >> it's okay. i know. >> this is something that democrats, at the biden campaign, will keep hammering on the campaign trail. we have seen time and again, ana, that abortion is a losing issue for republicans and it can drive democratic voters and voters in the middle to the polls. ana? >> matthew, so, trump is blaming other republicans on election losses. those republicans who backed strict abortion rules. what do you make of the party infighting? >> it is funny he's blaming other republicans when he picked most of the losers, he endorsed most of the losers that ended up losing in their key races. if anybody is responsible for the losses, it is donald trump in this. to me, donald trump ended up on the -- at the actual worst possible political position that he could have been in. he didn't satisfy the right. he still has -- he still has allowed to be able to motivate the left and the center in this country against hi
wade. i want you to take a listen to some of this. >> her little footprints. >> it's okay. i know. >> this is something that democrats, at the biden campaign, will keep hammering on the campaign trail. we have seen time and again, ana, that abortion is a losing issue for republicans and it can drive democratic voters and voters in the middle to the polls. ana? >> matthew, so, trump is blaming other republicans on election losses. those republicans who backed strict...
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isn't this what actavis said would happen after the overturning of roe v wade? tina yeah. >> they are saying that doctors in good faith should be covered but there are some cases were clearly, doctors practicing in good faith would be prosecuted. the justices shortly after said why are we even hear if it's true that doctors can practice in good faith because that is what they are doing now, so why are we here if you are not trying to wedge space between what we need to do and what you are saying they can't do? yes, the reaction of all my colleagues is the same, which is that it is appalling what they are suggesting. >> dr. chu, thank you for joining us and sharing your insights. >>> next, and nbc news investigation into israel's so- called safe zones in gaza. and it was the worst day. mom was crying. i was sad. colton: i was diagnosed with rhabdomyosarcoma. brett: once we got the first initial hit, it was just straight tears, sickness in your stomach, just don't want to get up out of bed. joe: there's always that saying, well, you've got to look on the bright si
isn't this what actavis said would happen after the overturning of roe v wade? tina yeah. >> they are saying that doctors in good faith should be covered but there are some cases were clearly, doctors practicing in good faith would be prosecuted. the justices shortly after said why are we even hear if it's true that doctors can practice in good faith because that is what they are doing now, so why are we here if you are not trying to wedge space between what we need to do and what you are...
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wade. this, what we're seeing today in arizona and states across the countryes is the republicans pl on abortion. and ephere's the thing, alex, ty can't run away with it, they can't turn away from it or hide fromid it. this is theirs. the reason that we are in the situation we are in right now is because the former president put judges along with the help of senate republicans, put judges on the supreme court to make this happen, to overturn roe v. wade, what was a constitutional right for almost 50 years. now we have these bans across thees country that makes it ver difficult for women to get health care.ic they get turnedn away from lifesaving procedures. they get turned away from emergency rooms. they are banning ivf. that're trying to criminalize doctors. this is their doing. and so they own this now. and what the president is trying to do and you heard this in his statement and you heard him say this over and over again. you heard it from the vice president as well and the administrati
wade. this, what we're seeing today in arizona and states across the countryes is the republicans pl on abortion. and ephere's the thing, alex, ty can't run away with it, they can't turn away from it or hide fromid it. this is theirs. the reason that we are in the situation we are in right now is because the former president put judges along with the help of senate republicans, put judges on the supreme court to make this happen, to overturn roe v. wade, what was a constitutional right for...
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roe v wade. for 54 years, they were trying to get roe v wade terminated, and i did it and i'm proud to have done it. >> i did something nobody thought was possible, and roe v wade was terminated and put back to this date. >> not all legal scholars wanted roe v wade overturned. that nonsense. on the other side of the selection, joe biden promises explicitly to restore roe v wade as the law of the land through legislation. if he's able to work with the democratic house and senate. the thing about all of this, and is really wild to watch this -- i don't members quite seen something like this. republicans, at least the ones with a modicum of sense, understanding are in desperate trouble on this issue. just clear as day that voters are not in line with their position on abortion. they are just running around saying anything they can to anyone, just trying to run away from themselves. from their own position. donald trump is the prime example. in a recent statement desperately trying to create some dis
roe v wade. for 54 years, they were trying to get roe v wade terminated, and i did it and i'm proud to have done it. >> i did something nobody thought was possible, and roe v wade was terminated and put back to this date. >> not all legal scholars wanted roe v wade overturned. that nonsense. on the other side of the selection, joe biden promises explicitly to restore roe v wade as the law of the land through legislation. if he's able to work with the democratic house and senate. the...
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wade overturned? what? >> well yes, it is typical word salad from donald trump because he doesn't believe any of it. he doesn't believe in anything. he is in the nihilist, his a malignant narcissist so he believes in whatever he needs to say to get elected which is what is so frustrating for those of us who actually have political ideology and principles, or people who continue to claim they have principal support the sky, because he continues to say whatever he needs to say to get elected. the reason he's coming out now is because republicans know and recognize that this is a very difficult issue for republicans. it is killer for them as an electoral issue, particularly in swing states, so they were trying to find a middle ground but you can't. there is so much background for you saw trump's hypocrisy and his inconsistency on it, but also because you are seeing what is happening in the swing states, particularly with republican women, who are very uncomfortable with the republican party taking women's righ
wade overturned? what? >> well yes, it is typical word salad from donald trump because he doesn't believe any of it. he doesn't believe in anything. he is in the nihilist, his a malignant narcissist so he believes in whatever he needs to say to get elected which is what is so frustrating for those of us who actually have political ideology and principles, or people who continue to claim they have principal support the sky, because he continues to say whatever he needs to say to get...
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wade. >> yeah, joe. if you want to look at the mission already, look at in vitro fertilization and what donald trump's decision caused to this important reproductive support system for women who are struggling to conceive. my heart is actually beating a little bit more than usual right now because i'm someone who just has gone through ivf. and the fact that women are now faced with this issue in the states, where you have, you know, people who initially were in support of overturning roe v. wade, and now have come out, these house republicans, saying they're in support of it and that this wasn't what they had, you know, initially intended when it came to seeping to different parts of trying to legislate reproductive rights, but, again, it's been kicked to the states. the republican-controlled legislatures are now passing these laws that are restricting access. whether in small ways or big ways, they are things that are causing paralysis among health care providers in states worried about the legal reperc
wade. >> yeah, joe. if you want to look at the mission already, look at in vitro fertilization and what donald trump's decision caused to this important reproductive support system for women who are struggling to conceive. my heart is actually beating a little bit more than usual right now because i'm someone who just has gone through ivf. and the fact that women are now faced with this issue in the states, where you have, you know, people who initially were in support of overturning roe...
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wade. for 54 years, they were trying to get roe v. wade terminated. and i did it. and i'm proud to have done it. roe v. wade, i did something nobody thought was possible and roe v. wade was terminated. >> point of fact there, not all legal scholars on both sides wanted it overturned. that is nonsense. now on the other side of this election, there is a democratic president, joe biden, who promises to restore roe v. wade as the law of the land through legislation. the thing about all of this, it is wild to watch this. i got to say. i don't think i have ever quite seen something like this in my 20 years covering american politics. republicans at least the ones with like a modicum of sense understand they are in desperate trouble on this issue. it is just clear as day. that voters are not in line with their position on abortion. so they are just running around saying anything they can to anyone just trying to like, run away from themselves. from their own position. donald trump is the prime example. in a recent statement, desperately trying to create some distance from
wade. for 54 years, they were trying to get roe v. wade terminated. and i did it. and i'm proud to have done it. roe v. wade, i did something nobody thought was possible and roe v. wade was terminated. >> point of fact there, not all legal scholars on both sides wanted it overturned. that is nonsense. now on the other side of this election, there is a democratic president, joe biden, who promises to restore roe v. wade as the law of the land through legislation. the thing about all of...
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wade was called dobbs. that decision created a brand-new legal standard, one that would provide a precedent for taking away civil liberties of all kinds. one that could be applied not just to abortion, but also to, say, the rights of gay people. i mention that because we're seeing ripple effects from that decision not only now in our own country, but far, far away from us, a continent away. in the nation of uganda, activists there have been fighting a radical deadly new law that effectively hunts gay people. this new law in uganda punishes people just for being gay. it punishes them with life in prison in some cases. in some cases, it punishes being gay with the death penalty. death penalty is the penalty for homosexuality. the second highest court in uganda just upheld most of that law, including the death penalty part of it. in their ruling, the court in uganda cited dobbs, cited the american supreme court decision that overturned roe v. wade. they cited dobbs as the justification for why the kill the gay
wade was called dobbs. that decision created a brand-new legal standard, one that would provide a precedent for taking away civil liberties of all kinds. one that could be applied not just to abortion, but also to, say, the rights of gay people. i mention that because we're seeing ripple effects from that decision not only now in our own country, but far, far away from us, a continent away. in the nation of uganda, activists there have been fighting a radical deadly new law that effectively...
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indirectly voted for chief justice roberts and justice samuel alito, who wrote concerning roe versus wade. and is the 49 million people who voted for george h.w. bush, who indirectly voted for clarence thomas to serve on the supreme court, where he waited for decades to vote to overturn. many of those republican voters did not mean, most voters had every right as a presidential posturing. george h.w. bush, and the bush family were supporters of planned parenthood until george h.w. bush had to change his position in 19 in the vice presidential running mate. an act of ultimate cynicism and politics. no one working in american politics believed that george h.w. bush from connecticut was really opposed to abortion. which in that year was running on an antiabortion platform that the candidates never emphasized, to ensure that antiabortion voters knew about. it was the most cynical vice presidential candidate. the first the first of his sons did not need to engage in a public reversal. he became a governor running for governor of texas. with the absolute antiabortion politics of the republican
indirectly voted for chief justice roberts and justice samuel alito, who wrote concerning roe versus wade. and is the 49 million people who voted for george h.w. bush, who indirectly voted for clarence thomas to serve on the supreme court, where he waited for decades to vote to overturn. many of those republican voters did not mean, most voters had every right as a presidential posturing. george h.w. bush, and the bush family were supporters of planned parenthood until george h.w. bush had to...
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wade. he took credit for it. he said there has to be punishment for women exercising their reproductive freedom. his words, not mine. he described the dobbs decision as a miracle. maybe comeing from that bible he is trying to sell. whoa. i almost wanted to buy one to see what the hell is in it. folks, it was no miracle. it was a political deal to get rid of roe. a political deal he made with the evangelical base of the republican party. to look past, if they look past his moral character flaws in exchange for his commitment. would overturn roe. don't think he is making the deal right now. with maga extremists to ban abortion in every single state. if congress ever passes a ban, i will veto that ban. elected democratic congress, kamala and i will make roe v. wade the law of the land again. >> in november, a ballot initiative will give voters the opportunity to protect abortion access in the state constitution. >> all over the country from ohio, kansas, michigan, kentucky, wisconsin, virginia
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he is the owner it seems of the decision by the supreme court to throw out wade. trump has been happy to brag about his transformation of the supreme court. he needs to on the consequences and politically speaking this is a very damaging issue for him in november even if the prospect of democrats winning florida seems remote to me. >> donald trump in the misinformation machine is trump's secret weapon but maybe not when it comes to abortion. i want you to look at a it of the biden campaign's new ad after the florida decision. here is a piece. >> for 54 years there were trying to get wade terminated and i did it and i am proud. >> in 2016 trump rain to overturn wade, now in 2024 he is running to pass a national ban on a woman's right to choose. i am running to make wade the law of the land again. >> on most issues, trump can push misinformation, he can dodge, deflect but is this the one issue where he cannot? because wade they get overturned, the bands are happening in states across the country so is biden doing the right thing and going all out in telling the stor
he is the owner it seems of the decision by the supreme court to throw out wade. trump has been happy to brag about his transformation of the supreme court. he needs to on the consequences and politically speaking this is a very damaging issue for him in november even if the prospect of democrats winning florida seems remote to me. >> donald trump in the misinformation machine is trump's secret weapon but maybe not when it comes to abortion. i want you to look at a it of the biden...
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wade to be overturned. he talked about that yesterday. we will have to find a path forward here. >> yeah. it is conservative judiciary. there are republicans on the state supreme court. people appointed by republicans who are responsible for this decision. four men and one woman. what does this do to the political dynamics in an election year, given the way abortion, when ever it is litigated at the ballot box, to the benefit of people in favor of choice. what does this do for the broader dynamics going into november? >> the first thing we have to be concerned about is the health care for women in the state. it has been hard already since roe was overturned. i have spoken to doctors who provided women's healthcare who left the state already. they moved to nevada. they moved onto other states. so the options for women have decreased. that will get worse with what happened today. we have an opportunity here in november to codify the right for women to make this choice on their own to get the politics out of it. i hope that passes. i will be
wade to be overturned. he talked about that yesterday. we will have to find a path forward here. >> yeah. it is conservative judiciary. there are republicans on the state supreme court. people appointed by republicans who are responsible for this decision. four men and one woman. what does this do to the political dynamics in an election year, given the way abortion, when ever it is litigated at the ballot box, to the benefit of people in favor of choice. what does this do for the broader...
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wade in 2022, boosting voter turnout. this all appears to have the twice impeached, four times and did on 88 counts disgraced former president floundering for response. after the supreme court's decision, trump announced that his campaign quote, will be making a statement next week on abortion, but don't let the man who brags about killing roaf will you. we already know where he stands. roll the tape. >> for 54 years, they were trying to get roe v. wade terminated and i did it and i'm proud to have done it. well, i did do something nobody thought was possible. i got rid of roe v. wade and by doing that -- by doing that, it put pro-lifers in a very strong negotiating position. >> do you believe in punishment for abortion, yes or no, as a principal? >> the answer is that there has to be some form of punishment. >> for the woman? >> yeah. >> joining, congressman barbara lee of california, co-chair of the pro-choice caucus. thank you for coming to the sunday show. do you expect to hear anything new from trump on abortion this
wade in 2022, boosting voter turnout. this all appears to have the twice impeached, four times and did on 88 counts disgraced former president floundering for response. after the supreme court's decision, trump announced that his campaign quote, will be making a statement next week on abortion, but don't let the man who brags about killing roaf will you. we already know where he stands. roll the tape. >> for 54 years, they were trying to get roe v. wade terminated and i did it and i'm...
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wade but other moments trying to distance himself from it. governor desantis's restrictive regulation is tied around trump's neck. >> donald trump will be what's politically expedient for donald trump. he'll probably wedge himself at the 15-week marker. with the majority of voters, it's not going necessarily change florida into a red state but certainly beneficial for democrats. >> certainly at minimum makes republicans spend resources they don't have. trump was off the campaign trail for nearly a month before he got back on it yesterday. we played at top of show much of his message was really hateful, offensive comments about migrants, do we still think, you know, that -- polls suggest immigration isn't a big issue for some americans, how do you think is going to play out. >> still a loft polls two-thirds of americans think president biden is mishandling the border crisis of course donald trump is going to use this. plenty of americans feel like the wall didn't happen, so perhaps biden can use that he didn't build the first time. there are a
wade but other moments trying to distance himself from it. governor desantis's restrictive regulation is tied around trump's neck. >> donald trump will be what's politically expedient for donald trump. he'll probably wedge himself at the 15-week marker. with the majority of voters, it's not going necessarily change florida into a red state but certainly beneficial for democrats. >> certainly at minimum makes republicans spend resources they don't have. trump was off the campaign...
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wade was overturned. now, the biden campaign is eyeing the chance to turn florida into a new battleground. meanwhile, the latest fox news poll says support for legal abortion has hit a new high. it shows a record 59% of americans believe that abortion should be legal in this country. with that, let's get smarter with our leadoff panel tonight, susan glasser is here, staff writer for the new yorker, charlie sykes, editor at large of the bulwark and a msnbc contributor and columnist, and larry sabado joins us, director of the center for politics and university of virginia professor and presidential historian. mary, you first, my friend. and b.c. is reporting that the biden campaign now sees florida, florida, trump's adopted home state, as winnable after the state supreme court rulings. do you think they have a chance, here? >> it's april. sure, i'll go along with that. anything is possible in april. we'll believe it when there's cash on the barrel head for a major tv program, but at least opens the door to
wade was overturned. now, the biden campaign is eyeing the chance to turn florida into a new battleground. meanwhile, the latest fox news poll says support for legal abortion has hit a new high. it shows a record 59% of americans believe that abortion should be legal in this country. with that, let's get smarter with our leadoff panel tonight, susan glasser is here, staff writer for the new yorker, charlie sykes, editor at large of the bulwark and a msnbc contributor and columnist, and larry...
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wade, to give it back to the states. we did that. it was an incredible thing, an incredible achievement. we did that, and now the states have it. >> meanwhile, a year after the dobbs decision, more than 60% of voters disapproved of the supreme court overturning roe v. wade. so where does the battle over abortion go from here? joining me now is the democratic governor of michigan, gretchen whitmer. governor whitmer, welcome back to "meet the press." >> thanks for having me. >> well, governor, thank you for being here on a big morning. former president trump held a rally last night. he did not mention the issue of abortion, but earlier this week he noted that abortion laws are left up to the states. he said he wouldn't support a national ban. how concerned are you that his efforts to straddle the line could effectively weaken this issue for democrats? >> well, i think your phraseology "straddle the line" is generous. he's lied over and over again to the people of this country. the only person who should be making a decision about wheth
wade, to give it back to the states. we did that. it was an incredible thing, an incredible achievement. we did that, and now the states have it. >> meanwhile, a year after the dobbs decision, more than 60% of voters disapproved of the supreme court overturning roe v. wade. so where does the battle over abortion go from here? joining me now is the democratic governor of michigan, gretchen whitmer. governor whitmer, welcome back to "meet the press." >> thanks for having me....
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wade. i put these judges in there, changed the supreme court, and we got rid of that law. >> he's dumb enough to think that's where it would stop. it never stops. >> it's dynamic. >> give them a little taste of it, they're going to keep on going. they want more and more and more, more extreme. this is what he did not realize: they'll never be happy. >> biden doesn't say free choice, no rules. he says, let's go back to roe v. wade, something that was a good compromise. people could live with it. they say, you know, it's much more on the side of the woman making the decision for the first six months. at the end there are societal concerns there. so the court decision made sense, you know, politically. it made sense politically. now trump is back saying, i want all the credit in the world for getting rid of roe v. wade. at the same time, don't blame me for the consequences. that's what politics is, consequences. you make decisions to go into iraq or don't go into iraq. now you have states that
wade. i put these judges in there, changed the supreme court, and we got rid of that law. >> he's dumb enough to think that's where it would stop. it never stops. >> it's dynamic. >> give them a little taste of it, they're going to keep on going. they want more and more and more, more extreme. this is what he did not realize: they'll never be happy. >> biden doesn't say free choice, no rules. he says, let's go back to roe v. wade, something that was a good compromise....
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i got rid of roe v wade. by doing that, by doing that, it put pro-lifers in a very strong negotiating position here. >> do you believe in punishment for abortion, yes or no? >> the answer is there has to be some form of punishment. >> joining me now, congresswoman barbara lee of california, pro chair of the caucus. thanks as always for coming to the sunday show. do you expect to hear anything new from trump on abortion this week? as he promises this? >> absolutely not. no. thank you for having me. think about what he did and what he said. he appointed supreme court justices. acknowledged the fact that he was responsible for getting rid of a person's right to make their own health care decisions as it relates to their healthcare. as it relates to abortion. that's what he did. don't believe anything else that he says about this. he is going to move forward. i'm confident and uphold his position which he has shown us, which is to end roe versus wade. >> president biden lost florida by three percentage points in
i got rid of roe v wade. by doing that, by doing that, it put pro-lifers in a very strong negotiating position here. >> do you believe in punishment for abortion, yes or no? >> the answer is there has to be some form of punishment. >> joining me now, congresswoman barbara lee of california, pro chair of the caucus. thanks as always for coming to the sunday show. do you expect to hear anything new from trump on abortion this week? as he promises this? >> absolutely not....
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for 52 years people have wanted to and roe v wade and give it back to the states. we did it we did that and now the states habit and the states are putting out what they want. it is the will of the people. it is even more incoherent when you hear him say it. we will talk about that with congresswoman pramila jayapal democrat from the great state of washington. congressman pramila jayapal thank you for joining me. we have a lot to talk about. do you think republicans conservatives can just say the phrase will of the people, will of the people and say it enough times is such a volume people forget about the actions they have actually taken to get this outcome? >> it is great to be with you. no i don't think they can do that. i think what you are seeing is the mass that they've gotten themselves into. because here is the thing everybody knows because donald trump bragged about it and will continue to brag about it. that he is the one who proudly takes responsibility for ending roe v wade. so he has said that. he has endorsed a nationwide abortion ban. by the way the r
for 52 years people have wanted to and roe v wade and give it back to the states. we did it we did that and now the states habit and the states are putting out what they want. it is the will of the people. it is even more incoherent when you hear him say it. we will talk about that with congresswoman pramila jayapal democrat from the great state of washington. congressman pramila jayapal thank you for joining me. we have a lot to talk about. do you think republicans conservatives can just say...
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i am determined to restore the federal protections of roe versus wade, the fundamental right for shows for women if you give me and vice president harris a democratic congress, that is exactly what we will do. trump is simply lying. there was no groundswell of support in america for overturning roe. in fact, support for roe is higher today in america than it has ever been. the real truth is trump made a political deal in 2016. he promised to appoint a court that would get rid of roe. and he had to make good on that debt. so he did. it was never about public policy or what was right or what trump believed. it was always about politics. it was always about politics. and vice president harris said this today. >> if he were to be put back in a position where he could sign off on a law, he would sign off on a national abortion then. let's be clear about that. that obviously makes the contrast between joe biden and donald trump quite clear. >> kicking off the discussion is amy klobuchar, she's a member of the senate judiciary committee and chair of the rules committee and also running for re
i am determined to restore the federal protections of roe versus wade, the fundamental right for shows for women if you give me and vice president harris a democratic congress, that is exactly what we will do. trump is simply lying. there was no groundswell of support in america for overturning roe. in fact, support for roe is higher today in america than it has ever been. the real truth is trump made a political deal in 2016. he promised to appoint a court that would get rid of roe. and he had...
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wade. and it is the 49 million people who voted for george h. w. bush who indirectly voted for clarence thomas to serve on the supreme court where he waited for decades to vote to overturn roe v. wade. they had every reason to believe that it was just political posturing. he wasn't the first. george h. w. bush and the family were supporters of planned parenthood until george h. w. bush had to change his position in 1980 in order to become ronald reagan's vice presidential running mate. an act of ultimate cynicism in politics. no one working in american politics believed that george h. w. bush from connecticut was really opposed to abortion. it is simply what he had to say to get on the republican ticket which was running on an anti- abortion platform that the candidates never emphasized but made sure anti-abortion voters knew about them. it was the most cynical public act we had yet seen in presidential or vice presidential candidate. the first of president bush's sons did not have to engag
wade. and it is the 49 million people who voted for george h. w. bush who indirectly voted for clarence thomas to serve on the supreme court where he waited for decades to vote to overturn roe v. wade. they had every reason to believe that it was just political posturing. he wasn't the first. george h. w. bush and the family were supporters of planned parenthood until george h. w. bush had to change his position in 1980 in order to become ronald reagan's vice presidential running mate. an act...
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.” >> people forget, fighting roe v wade was, right from the beginning, all about bringing the issue back to the date pursuant to the 10th amendment and states rights. it wasn't about anything else. that's what it was. we brought it back to the states, and i lots of things are happening and lots of good things are happening. now, all i say is, the states are handing it and it's totally kill that issue. we are going to make our country great again. everybody is going to be happy. >> totally kill that issue. have you noticed how killed the issue is? trump is convinced he can talk his way out of this abortion jam by spouting talking points as if they are magic words state rights and everybody's want to be happy and we settled and we killed it. every time they talk about this issue, they are simply establishing in people's minds the truth that it really was donald trump who made the overturning of roe v wade inevitable, and that everything that flows from him is his doing. kerry lake, a candidate for senate in arizona, two years ago, in public on camera, she praised the 1864 abortion ban
.” >> people forget, fighting roe v wade was, right from the beginning, all about bringing the issue back to the date pursuant to the 10th amendment and states rights. it wasn't about anything else. that's what it was. we brought it back to the states, and i lots of things are happening and lots of good things are happening. now, all i say is, the states are handing it and it's totally kill that issue. we are going to make our country great again. everybody is going to be happy....
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wade. donald trump said yesterday that this is exactly what he has always wanted. donald trump said each state should determine abortion law of that state. >> and whatever they decide must be the law of the land. in this case, the law of the state. >> the law of the state. and in this case, the law written by one man 54 years before women had the right to vote. five years in prison. donald trump supports five years in prison for anyone in arizona who participates in any way in an abortion. no one in arizona has voted for ma law, but a majority of the people of arizona have voted for a governor who opposes that law. a governor to the horror of william thompson howell is a woman who will be our first guest tonight. >> it is a dark day in arizona. just now, the arizona supreme court issued its opinion, upholding one of the most extreme abortion bans in the country. to the people across arizona who are concerned about the future of abortion rights in our state, who are worried about their bodil
wade. donald trump said yesterday that this is exactly what he has always wanted. donald trump said each state should determine abortion law of that state. >> and whatever they decide must be the law of the land. in this case, the law of the state. >> the law of the state. and in this case, the law written by one man 54 years before women had the right to vote. five years in prison. donald trump supports five years in prison for anyone in arizona who participates in any way in an...
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roe v wade. now, in 2024, he's running to pass a national ban on a woman's right to choose. i'm running to make roe v. wade the law of the land again so women have the federal guarantee to the right to choose. donald trump doesn't trust women. i do. >> that comes one day after the florida supreme court allowed a six-week abortion ban in that state to sing and while also rolling an amendment to enshrine abortion rights in the state constitution can appeal and appear on the ballot. now with florida set for a shorter nonreproductive rage, republicans will have to make the case to the voters, a fight they have lost every time so far since roe v. wade was overturned. debbie powell is a democratic congress woman running for senate against florida republican rick scott, incumbent republican, focusing on these issues. it is nice to have you here. >> good evening, chris, thank you for having me. >> for the folks in your state you are running to represent statewide in the u.s. senate, what does it mean to
roe v wade. now, in 2024, he's running to pass a national ban on a woman's right to choose. i'm running to make roe v. wade the law of the land again so women have the federal guarantee to the right to choose. donald trump doesn't trust women. i do. >> that comes one day after the florida supreme court allowed a six-week abortion ban in that state to sing and while also rolling an amendment to enshrine abortion rights in the state constitution can appeal and appear on the ballot. now with...
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we will i can tell you that rick scott also celebrated overturning roe v wade. rick scott also supports a six- week abortion ban and what is happening with trump is that they are trying to hide and run away from this toxic record that they know very well they're going to lose. i think that it is going to galvanize voters of all ages, of all political affiliations and when i am telling voters in florida, that it doesn't matter if they sign and a vote to protect abortion rights in the states constitution. if they elect rick scott and send him back to the senate and then he pushes a national abortion ban, that is why my race has become more critical than ever. >> it is a good point that you do have in fact, a distinct situation which is an extremely restrictive ban in place now. the opportunity to overturn that ban and enshrine the rights into the state constitution on election day on the same day that you might have a situation in which a republican senate and a republican president will look else which will then pass a national ban that will overturn whatever the
we will i can tell you that rick scott also celebrated overturning roe v wade. rick scott also supports a six- week abortion ban and what is happening with trump is that they are trying to hide and run away from this toxic record that they know very well they're going to lose. i think that it is going to galvanize voters of all ages, of all political affiliations and when i am telling voters in florida, that it doesn't matter if they sign and a vote to protect abortion rights in the states...
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. >> people forget, fighting roe v wade was all about bringing it back to the states. it wasn't about anything else. that's what it was. we brought it back to the states and now lots of things are happening and lots of good things are happening. now all i say is, the states are having to lean it and it has totally killed that issue. we will take care of everything. we will make our country great again. everybody's going to be happy. >> totally killed the issue. have you noticed how killed the issue is? he is convinced he can talk his way out of the abortion jim by spouting talking points as if they are magic words. every time they talk about the issue they are establishing in people's minds the truth that it really was donald trump that made the overturning of roe v wade inevitable. everything that flows from that is his doing. case in point, kari lake, a candidate for senate in arizona, two years ago she praised the abortion ban we just talked about that got reinstated. she tried to reverse course with the video that simultaneously tries to hide her position and prais
. >> people forget, fighting roe v wade was all about bringing it back to the states. it wasn't about anything else. that's what it was. we brought it back to the states and now lots of things are happening and lots of good things are happening. now all i say is, the states are having to lean it and it has totally killed that issue. we will take care of everything. we will make our country great again. everybody's going to be happy. >> totally killed the issue. have you noticed how...
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wade was overturned and we are seeing abortion bans in state after state. so what he says is quite dangerous. >> yeah. look, we shouldn't believe anything trump says. we should look at -- we should look at what he does. he said he wanted to punish women. the thing we should pay attention is word salad, whatever you want to call it is what he didn't say. he didn't say he would not sign a federal abortion ban if it came to his desk. if he gets elected we know that most likely he gets elected a republican senate and house. we know the house is at least -- at this very moment led by someone who has -- one of the most retrograde conservative positions on abortion we know whoever leads in the senate will support a national ban. if that bill comes to his desk he is going to sign t that -- what he is trying to -- too cute by -- whatever, the end result is if trump gets elected a national abortion ban is a very likely outcome and that's why people have to vote against him. >> it was sort of this word salad in a room today where there were reporters were in a positio
wade was overturned and we are seeing abortion bans in state after state. so what he says is quite dangerous. >> yeah. look, we shouldn't believe anything trump says. we should look at -- we should look at what he does. he said he wanted to punish women. the thing we should pay attention is word salad, whatever you want to call it is what he didn't say. he didn't say he would not sign a federal abortion ban if it came to his desk. if he gets elected we know that most likely he gets...
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wade while also saying he's proud of the role he played. republicans in arizona are trying to distance themselves from this decision. we've heard from a number of them saying this is the wrong thing and out of step with arizona. there's a ballot initiative that could bring this to the forefront in november. the advocates say they have enough signatures to put it on the ballot, but they're not sure whether or not it's actually going to be on the ballot. but a lot going on after this decision, ana. >> huge ripple effects, yamiche alcindor, thank you very much for that reporting. and joining us now is the host of crooked media's what a day podcast. juanita tolliver, and former republican congressman from florida, carlos curbelo. good to have both of you here. abe lincoln had just been reelected in 1864. arizona wasn't even a state yet, the territory had something like 6,400 people total. women didn't have the right to vote in this country. did you ever think this country in 2024 would be here? >> yes, ana, i thought that because republicans ha
wade while also saying he's proud of the role he played. republicans in arizona are trying to distance themselves from this decision. we've heard from a number of them saying this is the wrong thing and out of step with arizona. there's a ballot initiative that could bring this to the forefront in november. the advocates say they have enough signatures to put it on the ballot, but they're not sure whether or not it's actually going to be on the ballot. but a lot going on after this decision,...
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willis and nathan wade. his rulings have been, by and large, you know, legally supportable, solid rulings. this one is a perfect example of this. this is, of course, the correct result. even though he says there are some things we would wait for trial on, is not suggesting that suddenly all of the statements made in furtherance of the commission of the charged crimes would suddenly become protected speech. there could be certain aspects of things that come out like certain facts about certain particular speech that come out at trial that might in individual examples be protected. that is what he's saying about some of this we have to wait for trial on. he's made the definitive ruling. when your speech is core to your fraud, the conspiracy here, the false statements, there are written false statements, right, false statements about the certification of the electoral ballots by the fraudulent electors, these are things that go, that are being presented falsely to the government in a matter within the governmen
willis and nathan wade. his rulings have been, by and large, you know, legally supportable, solid rulings. this one is a perfect example of this. this is, of course, the correct result. even though he says there are some things we would wait for trial on, is not suggesting that suddenly all of the statements made in furtherance of the commission of the charged crimes would suddenly become protected speech. there could be certain aspects of things that come out like certain facts about certain...
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wade. >> all legal scholars on both sides is a trumpian lie, of course. in fact, most legal scholars, like most people in the united states of america, very much wanted to preserve women's reproductive rights established in roe versus wade 51 years ago. donald trump then announced today a new position on abortion , which he was afraid to announce during the republican presidential primaries because it could have cost him republican votes in those primaries. >> my view is now that we have abortion where everybody wanted it from a legal standpoint to states will be determined by vote or legislation or perhaps both. >> donald trump sly there, of course, is that everybody wanted to leave abortion up to individual states. that is a lie. most americans did not want to have different abortion laws in each state, and now, donald trump is taking full credit for making reproductive rights impossible for one third of american women. the washington post reports nearly one in three women ages 15 to 44 living in a state where abortion is banned or severely restricted.
wade. >> all legal scholars on both sides is a trumpian lie, of course. in fact, most legal scholars, like most people in the united states of america, very much wanted to preserve women's reproductive rights established in roe versus wade 51 years ago. donald trump then announced today a new position on abortion , which he was afraid to announce during the republican presidential primaries because it could have cost him republican votes in those primaries. >> my view is now that we...
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wade was overturned. people are very angry about this. >> let me play devil's advocate if i can, tim, how much do we really know about who's going to get blame or credit for this? and i'm talking about arizona in particular, and i want to look at the 2022 midterms. according to our 2022 exit poll and vaughn mentioned this, 62% of voters said abortion should be legal in all or most cases. but katie hobbs, the democrat defeated kari lake for governor by less than 1%. is it possible democrats are maing too much of this ruling thinking it might give them a big advantage in arizona. >> i think it definitely helps them in arizona. i talked to a lot of republicans yesterday in arizona. we saw a lot of republican tweets you just put up in arizona. i think republicans are telling you they're worried about it. i do think -- and this is something i think a lot of times democrats don't understand. there are a lot of donald trump voters that are pro-choice. donald trump brought a lot of people into the party, these wo
wade was overturned. people are very angry about this. >> let me play devil's advocate if i can, tim, how much do we really know about who's going to get blame or credit for this? and i'm talking about arizona in particular, and i want to look at the 2022 midterms. according to our 2022 exit poll and vaughn mentioned this, 62% of voters said abortion should be legal in all or most cases. but katie hobbs, the democrat defeated kari lake for governor by less than 1%. is it possible...
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wade. my view is now that we have abortion where everyone wanted it from a legal standpoint, states will determine by vote or legislation or perhaps both, and whatever they decide must be the law of the land. in this case the law of the state. >> arizona giving the nation the latest stark example of the consequences of leaving the issue up to individual states. the arizona supreme court ruled a 160-year-old near total abortion ban still on the books in the state is enforceable. the decision which could shutter abortion clinics across arizona adds the state to the growing list of places where abortion health care is effectively banned. to allowed an 1864 law to stand, make being abortion a felony punishable by two to five years in prison for anyone who performs one or helps a woman obtain one. the civil war era law, which was enacted half a century before arizona even was a state, does include an exemption to save the life of the mother. arizona's attorney general came out against the ban mo
wade. my view is now that we have abortion where everyone wanted it from a legal standpoint, states will determine by vote or legislation or perhaps both, and whatever they decide must be the law of the land. in this case the law of the state. >> arizona giving the nation the latest stark example of the consequences of leaving the issue up to individual states. the arizona supreme court ruled a 160-year-old near total abortion ban still on the books in the state is enforceable. the...
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wade to get it back to the states. we did that. it was an incredible thing. an incredible achievement. we did that. and now the states have it. and the states are putting out what they want. it's the will of the people. >> trump continues to take credit for ending reproductive rights, lying it's the will of the people. it's the latest example of the toxic merger of
wade to get it back to the states. we did that. it was an incredible thing. an incredible achievement. we did that. and now the states have it. and the states are putting out what they want. it's the will of the people. >> trump continues to take credit for ending reproductive rights, lying it's the will of the people. it's the latest example of the toxic merger of
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wade. joining us now, garrett haake, victoria defrancesco soto, she is an msnbc political analyst, and matthew dowd, served as chief strategist for the 204 bush cheney campaign. he is also senior political contributor. what factors was the trump team weighing when preparing this announcement? >> jose, i think the most important factor they were weighing were the politics of this issue, which have proven to be incredibly potent. abortion rights issues is one of the few issues, perhaps the only issue in which democrats consistently poll better than republicans in this presidential cycle. a majority of the country is dissatisfied with where things are on abortion issues following the end of roe v. wade, and donald trump is getting hammered on this issue. he is taking credit for appointing the justices that came to that decision, and he's basically been saddle with each individual state's abortion position, particularly when they are far more conservative than what roe had presented. by giving
wade. joining us now, garrett haake, victoria defrancesco soto, she is an msnbc political analyst, and matthew dowd, served as chief strategist for the 204 bush cheney campaign. he is also senior political contributor. what factors was the trump team weighing when preparing this announcement? >> jose, i think the most important factor they were weighing were the politics of this issue, which have proven to be incredibly potent. abortion rights issues is one of the few issues, perhaps the...
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he did more than end roe versus wade. the court, in striking down re versus wade, struck down 100 years of precedent that says the 14th amendment grants people some autonomous rights to make decisions about their own families. it's not just pregnancy. it's contraceptions. it's invsit -- in vitro fertilization. it is dobbs. he's proud to strip away freedoms we've had for a century. the stakes are high. he is fine with states criminalizing women. he's fine with states giving bounties to those who might report somebody who terminates a pregnancy. great. you put that out there, and we democrats and joe biden, kamala harris, we're going to say, we appreciate women's reproductive freedom should be protected in the country. whatever zip code you live in, whatever state, it shouldn't be up to a group of mostly male legislators deciding how to criminalize your behavior. >> mika, what he just said, i'm really surprised. i thought he'd try to weasel out of it more than he did. what he said was he supports, like, florida's six-week b
he did more than end roe versus wade. the court, in striking down re versus wade, struck down 100 years of precedent that says the 14th amendment grants people some autonomous rights to make decisions about their own families. it's not just pregnancy. it's contraceptions. it's invsit -- in vitro fertilization. it is dobbs. he's proud to strip away freedoms we've had for a century. the stakes are high. he is fine with states criminalizing women. he's fine with states giving bounties to those who...
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wade was overturned. what you are going to see from this campaign, especially moving forward, is pointing that out in those swing states, right? arizona and florida are really interesting for many reasons, but they're both likely to have some kind of referendum literally on the ballot about abortion. florida probably not a swing state anymore as much as democrats home that it is, but arizona kind of is really in play. so when you talk to arizona democrats and national democrats who are going to be spending a lot of time and money there, what they will tell you is that we are going to spend every single day reminding everyone that the reason that we're having this conversation starts and ends with donald trump and also that donald trump on his own abortion thought process for years has kind of been all over the place. at one point he said women should be punished. he was pro choice in the past life. now he is where he is. they want to tell the voters you can't trust him on abortion. he says he's not going
wade was overturned. what you are going to see from this campaign, especially moving forward, is pointing that out in those swing states, right? arizona and florida are really interesting for many reasons, but they're both likely to have some kind of referendum literally on the ballot about abortion. florida probably not a swing state anymore as much as democrats home that it is, but arizona kind of is really in play. so when you talk to arizona democrats and national democrats who are going to...
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wade. and they are the ones who have caused this tremendous chaos and real pain for millions of women across this country who now not only don't have the right to abortion, by the way, but also the republicans are really about eliminating all reproductive health care for women as you saw with the ivf decision. contraception is very much a part of their plan, and i think they understand what a mess they're in now because this is not popular. it is not right, and it is not popular. >> i mean it's also ironic all of a sudden the republican party which has embraced such anti-democratic actics to stay in power is now heralding how important it is to have the will of the people decide matters of great state level import like abortion, reproductive freedom. by embracing i don't know democracy it forecloses the mechanisms by which they've stayed in power, which is legislative shicannery and judicial installing conservatives on benches across the country to rule against the will of the people. and i
wade. and they are the ones who have caused this tremendous chaos and real pain for millions of women across this country who now not only don't have the right to abortion, by the way, but also the republicans are really about eliminating all reproductive health care for women as you saw with the ivf decision. contraception is very much a part of their plan, and i think they understand what a mess they're in now because this is not popular. it is not right, and it is not popular. >> i...
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this is the result of the supreme court overturning roe v wade. this was the inevitable result that would happen. >> what is your take on this one ? because trump, who is the one who enabled all of this, because he lined everything up for roe v wade to be overturned, he is kind of doing a tap dance this week, but i'm not sure how he can. >> it is so interesting, because he's like on monday we will kick it back to the states. he had to have known this arizona decision was coming down, and it was so preposterous. we are going to kick it back to the states. arizona, the republican legislature. >> the next day. >> they are like okay, we will take it back to 1850. >> all the way back. >> you remember the president, i mean, arizona wasn't even a state, a 10-year-old girl couldn't give consent. i mean, this is the law. other laws in this are wild stuff and no. i think that look they are still trying, the democrats in the arizona state house are still trying to overturn this. they are still trying, ultimately it will be enacted, republicans want this, and
this is the result of the supreme court overturning roe v wade. this was the inevitable result that would happen. >> what is your take on this one ? because trump, who is the one who enabled all of this, because he lined everything up for roe v wade to be overturned, he is kind of doing a tap dance this week, but i'm not sure how he can. >> it is so interesting, because he's like on monday we will kick it back to the states. he had to have known this arizona decision was coming...
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wade to get it back to the states. we did that. it was an incredible thing, incredible achievement. we did that and now the states have it and the states are putting out what they want. it's the will of the people. >> we'll talk about that now with congressman pramila jayapal, democrat from the great state of washington and chair of the progressive caucus. we've got a lot to talk about. do you think republicans, conservatives can just say the phrase will of the people, will of the people enough times at such a volume people forget about the actions they've actually taken to get this outcome? >> hey, great to be with you. no, i don't think they can do that. i think what you're seeing is the mess, the pig stye, they've gotten themselves into because here's the thing. everybody knows because donald trump bragged about it and will continue to brag about it that he is the one who "proudly" takes responsibility for ending roe. he has said that. he has endorsed a nationwide abortion ban. the maga republicans in the house put a nationwide abortion ban into the study conference bill that is
wade to get it back to the states. we did that. it was an incredible thing, incredible achievement. we did that and now the states have it and the states are putting out what they want. it's the will of the people. >> we'll talk about that now with congressman pramila jayapal, democrat from the great state of washington and chair of the progressive caucus. we've got a lot to talk about. do you think republicans, conservatives can just say the phrase will of the people, will of the people...
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wade. he says that. i think it's going to continue to be a huge issue in this campaign. >> simone, how much of this announcement and his reaction to the announcement is going to be playing going towards november? how does it play into the democrats' strategy? >> i think the way to frame up donald trump's announcement is what you and dasha and folks have done. donald trump is saying whatever he needs to say to win. he is concerned about winning. he is not telling us what he believes to be true. on that note, you have to watch what he has done and what he does and not just what he says. i think that democrats have strong ground on this issue and have been pointing that out. he was rightfully hammered on this from folks on the left and folks on the right because donald trump is saying whatever he wants to say to get elected. you have women who are featured in the ad from the biden campaign that was out this week. she and her husband are going through a box of baby items that were going to be for their baby
wade. he says that. i think it's going to continue to be a huge issue in this campaign. >> simone, how much of this announcement and his reaction to the announcement is going to be playing going towards november? how does it play into the democrats' strategy? >> i think the way to frame up donald trump's announcement is what you and dasha and folks have done. donald trump is saying whatever he needs to say to win. he is concerned about winning. he is not telling us what he believes...
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yes, roe versus wade, the supreme court that overturned roe versus wade was at the top of the list, but that list goes on and on. there are lots of policies that he has and his administration have implemented during his four years. putting evangelicals right in the center. it was effectively their wish list. >> stuart, your work on multiple republican campaigns for actual men of faith. have you ever seen anything like this? >> no. you know, it's not uncommon for candidates to say that they think that god wants them to win. you know, this happened back when mitt romney was running, and someone close to romney observed that god was tracking. what happens when these people lose? does that mean that god was not for them? but look, i think there's something here that we really need to talk about, and that is race. the white evangelicals that are for donald trump, one of the biggest, strongest groups against thomas trump is the black evangelicals. i think it sort of raises a question, is it evangelical as much as it is about race? i know that there was an african-american gentleman there at t
yes, roe versus wade, the supreme court that overturned roe versus wade was at the top of the list, but that list goes on and on. there are lots of policies that he has and his administration have implemented during his four years. putting evangelicals right in the center. it was effectively their wish list. >> stuart, your work on multiple republican campaigns for actual men of faith. have you ever seen anything like this? >> no. you know, it's not uncommon for candidates to say...
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wade terminated, and i did it. i i'm proud to have done it. >> in 2016 donald trump ran to overturn roe v. wade. now in 2024 he's running to pass a national ban on a woman's right to choose. i'm running to make roe v. wade the law of the land again so we'll have a federal guarantee to the right to choose. donald trump doesn't trust women, i do. i'm joe biden and i approve this message. >> today donald trump told nbc news his campaign plans to make a statement about abortion next week. we will see what that statement says, if it even happens, if it is even a statement. now, trump has sought to avoid any discussion about abortion and what he actually supports throughout his campaign thus far. in instead he would prefer to drum up fear about phantom menaces. today trump held a campaign in michigan focused on the issue of border security. while michigan is technically a border state, trump was not there to fear monger about our canadian neighbors. he's instead hoping he could drum up his own brand of rage and hurt and
wade terminated, and i did it. i i'm proud to have done it. >> in 2016 donald trump ran to overturn roe v. wade. now in 2024 he's running to pass a national ban on a woman's right to choose. i'm running to make roe v. wade the law of the land again so we'll have a federal guarantee to the right to choose. donald trump doesn't trust women, i do. i'm joe biden and i approve this message. >> today donald trump told nbc news his campaign plans to make a statement about abortion next...
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wade. >> that's a lie, of course. only the extreme religious right wanted to take away a woman's right to control her own reproductive choices. but trump wants to have it both ways on abortion. trying to hang on to some women voters while not angering his evangelical base. senator elizabeth warren joins me to discuss that as well as president biden's new student debt forgiveness plan. and how russian propaganda is seeping into the rhetoric of congressional republicans. >>> happy eclipse day to all of those who were lucky enough to be in the path. let's hope that the majority of you didn't stare directly into the flaming ball of plasma like your former president, who seemed to think the laws of science did not apply to him. april 8th is not just eclipse day. it also happens to be the day 50 years ago that hank aaron broke babe ruth's all-time home run record by slamming home his 715th with a simple swing of his bat, aaron beat back streams of racist death threats and taunts to become one of
wade. >> that's a lie, of course. only the extreme religious right wanted to take away a woman's right to control her own reproductive choices. but trump wants to have it both ways on abortion. trying to hang on to some women voters while not angering his evangelical base. senator elizabeth warren joins me to discuss that as well as president biden's new student debt forgiveness plan. and how russian propaganda is seeping into the rhetoric of congressional republicans. >>> happy...
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wade. and by doing that, by doing that it puts pro-lifers in a strong negotiating position. >> if a federal ban landed on your desk if you were reauto elected would you sign it at 15 -- >> are you talking about a complete ban. >> ban at 15 weeks. >> well people are starting to think of 15 weeks. that seems to be a number that peopleweeks, that seems to be a number that
wade. and by doing that, by doing that it puts pro-lifers in a strong negotiating position. >> if a federal ban landed on your desk if you were reauto elected would you sign it at 15 -- >> are you talking about a complete ban. >> ban at 15 weeks. >> well people are starting to think of 15 weeks. that seems to be a number that peopleweeks, that seems to be a number that