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he was supposed to pay karen mcdougal. he was supposed to pay 125,000 dollars for the life story of karen mcdougal. for whatever the reason may be, he elected not to pay it. davidecho was very angry because there was other money he that was expended on his behalf. david never got paid back for that either. >> so davidpecker has done this in other cases? >> in other circumstances, yes. not all of them had to do with women. host: that was michael cohen from 2019. help put that into context here and how that testimony might play into what you were just talking about. guest: at that testimony, it's five years ago now but it was very dramatic at the time because he had copies of the canceled checks so you could see the checks with trump's signature on it. that was quite dramatic. it was paid in monthly installments over one year. that was to be reimbursed for the things he passed along to stormy daniels for karen mcdougal. the mcdougall case was a little more complicated because it went through the national enquirer. there was
he was supposed to pay karen mcdougal. he was supposed to pay 125,000 dollars for the life story of karen mcdougal. for whatever the reason may be, he elected not to pay it. davidecho was very angry because there was other money he that was expended on his behalf. david never got paid back for that either. >> so davidpecker has done this in other cases? >> in other circumstances, yes. not all of them had to do with women. host: that was michael cohen from 2019. help put that into...
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he was supposed to pay karen mcdougal. he was supposed to pay 125,000 dollars for the life story of karen mcdougal. for whatever the reason may be, he elected not to pay it. davidecho was very angry because there was other money he that was expended on his behalf. david never got paid back for that either. >> so davidpecker has done this in other cases? >> in other circumstances, yes. not all of them had to do with women. host: that was michael cohen from 2019. help put that into context here and how that testimony might play into what you were just talking about. guest: at that testimony, it's five years ago now but it was very dramatic at the time because he had copies of the canceled checks so you could see the checks with trump's signature on it. that was quite dramatic. it was paid in monthly installments over one year. that was to be reimbursed for the things he passed along to stormy daniels for karen mcdougal. the mcdougall case was a little more complicated because it went through the national enquirer. there was
he was supposed to pay karen mcdougal. he was supposed to pay 125,000 dollars for the life story of karen mcdougal. for whatever the reason may be, he elected not to pay it. davidecho was very angry because there was other money he that was expended on his behalf. david never got paid back for that either. >> so davidpecker has done this in other cases? >> in other circumstances, yes. not all of them had to do with women. host: that was michael cohen from 2019. help put that into...
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did he know michael cohen was paying off stormy daniels and karen mcdougal that he subsequently then paid michael cohen back for and establishing that intent, right? and some of those rapid fire questions at hope hicks i thought were fascinating. did he feel as if in the lead up to the election after the access hollywood tape was released that he was going to lose votes with women? were there reactions from other republicans? what were those reactions? did he feel as if it was going to affect the election come november after the release of this access hollywood tape, right? establishing the intent, the desperation, establishing the desperation of a man running for president of the united states who knew all of the ongoings inside of his organization, all of the ongoings inside of his campaign as hope hicks talked about. why would he not then subsequently when this information came out, reaching out, hope hicks talking about that, the reach out was to hope hicks herself about the karen mcdougal story. she subsequently reached out to michael cohen as well, michael cohen denying it, dav
did he know michael cohen was paying off stormy daniels and karen mcdougal that he subsequently then paid michael cohen back for and establishing that intent, right? and some of those rapid fire questions at hope hicks i thought were fascinating. did he feel as if in the lead up to the election after the access hollywood tape was released that he was going to lose votes with women? were there reactions from other republicans? what were those reactions? did he feel as if it was going to affect...
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never heard from karen mcdougal. the jury never heard testimony from karen mcdougal. is this a sign they're zeroing in on her situation, a potential hole in the prosecution's case? >> no, and i think the reason why they didn't call her was because of stormy daniels' testimony about the sexual encounter and the details. i think the prosecution said we're not going to have another witness up there talking about donald trump's sex life. we don't need her, and they don't really -- i don't -- again, i'm not in the jury room. you might have one juror say why didn't we hear from karen mcdue i think this wm and the other testimony read back puts donald trump at the center. he's the boss. and remember, he's the one who called pecker. you got a call from donald trump. so it wasn't like pecker calling trump and saying i have a great idea. it wasn't cohen calling pecker. it was donald trump calling, and again, i always like to give a caveat, it could also be as katie and danny said another jury who has their own version of what
never heard from karen mcdougal. the jury never heard testimony from karen mcdougal. is this a sign they're zeroing in on her situation, a potential hole in the prosecution's case? >> no, and i think the reason why they didn't call her was because of stormy daniels' testimony about the sexual encounter and the details. i think the prosecution said we're not going to have another witness up there talking about donald trump's sex life. we don't need her, and they don't really -- i don't --...
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will be that of karen mcdougal. >> well, that's impressive. i'm so glad you said paulo, because you're tightening his grip because the prosecutor just ask david, quote, do you know somebody named karen mcdougal obviously that is going to be the second story here. and this one is going ally fcinating. because they just laid out the mechanics of how these agreements worked and how for the first time they bought a story. we do now know karen mcdougal, who store. they also bought and you're saying yes, i do. as they are now getting into this story this is incredibly significant fill in this moment just given karen mcdougal story, was bad, david was worried when they bought that story, that they were violating campaign finance rules? >> yes. actually did research to make sure that they weren't are trying to make sure that they were on the right right side of the wall, which i imagine you're probably going to be hearing about that process because corporations can't spend 100 and over $100,000 from them as to what they can actually spend on that. and
will be that of karen mcdougal. >> well, that's impressive. i'm so glad you said paulo, because you're tightening his grip because the prosecutor just ask david, quote, do you know somebody named karen mcdougal obviously that is going to be the second story here. and this one is going ally fcinating. because they just laid out the mechanics of how these agreements worked and how for the first time they bought a story. we do now know karen mcdougal, who store. they also bought and you're...
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so 150 grand is a precedent set by karen mcdougal. and that davidson is saying that dylan howard, who who works with national enquirer, says, you should try to get as much as you can up to $150,000. dylan as sort of a peacemaker, brought me back into the fold. keith davidson explains, but then cohen says he wasn't paying. it's just one more snafu so i think one of the things that's going on here, paula, and please correct me whatever errors i've made is the deal has gone through with karen mcdougal. she's being paid $150,000 by american media incorporated. they think donald trump is going to pay back. he doesn't. and david pecker's like, okay, well, that's on me. i'll take the hit, maybe even advised by his lawyers is don't be reimbursed right now. the jury is seeing an email from davidson to cohen with wiring instructions. so at some point cohen is being given. here's where you wire the money. michael cohen. and at this point, they're trying to rush her cohen to pay or at least team trump to pay because david pecker doesn't want to g
so 150 grand is a precedent set by karen mcdougal. and that davidson is saying that dylan howard, who who works with national enquirer, says, you should try to get as much as you can up to $150,000. dylan as sort of a peacemaker, brought me back into the fold. keith davidson explains, but then cohen says he wasn't paying. it's just one more snafu so i think one of the things that's going on here, paula, and please correct me whatever errors i've made is the deal has gone through with karen...
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he is talking about karen mcdougal and non-disclosure agreements. explain the significance. >> reporter: keith davidson has not been a public figure. it's not like he has come out and done tv interviews or talked about his representation of stormy daniels and karen mcdougal. that's why for the prosecution, he could be key here as linking these pieces together. he was the one in 2016 who was negotiating the selling of karen mcdougal and stormy daniels' story. he will be able to provide some veracity to the expected testimony of michael cohen and their exchanges and how ultimately the negotiations of their sales went down. right now, the prosecution for the jury is simply setting up, how did you become aware of karen mcdougal? he is saying he knew her for 25 years. he got connected to her via a friend of his. then started representing her in the summer of 2016. that is where the retainer was set up. he was beginning to personally advise and provide counsel for her. he was sort of the attorney/agent role there where alleged he was negotiating, helping
he is talking about karen mcdougal and non-disclosure agreements. explain the significance. >> reporter: keith davidson has not been a public figure. it's not like he has come out and done tv interviews or talked about his representation of stormy daniels and karen mcdougal. that's why for the prosecution, he could be key here as linking these pieces together. he was the one in 2016 who was negotiating the selling of karen mcdougal and stormy daniels' story. he will be able to provide...
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the one with karen mcdougal. cohen took this to mean they got it, they prevented the story from being released on abc news effectively the story has now been caught. cohen updated trump and said it was bullet proof. trump said fantastic, great job. again we're talking karen mcdougal. matt. >> well first of all, another day of trial, another witness and still no -- nowhere close to allegations or evidence of illegality. i think the jury is probably at this point four weeks in very frustrated with the prosecution and the story they are telling and hoping or looking for something to hang their hat on. one of the things that, you know, as we get the read-outs here from people in the courtroom, that the jury has access to, the non-verbal. michael cohen's, the way he looks, the way he acts, the way he is testifying, and that's going to be worth as much as the words that are coming out of his mouth. you know, the prosecution is trying to build him up trying to give him softball questions to have the jury have some sympa
the one with karen mcdougal. cohen took this to mean they got it, they prevented the story from being released on abc news effectively the story has now been caught. cohen updated trump and said it was bullet proof. trump said fantastic, great job. again we're talking karen mcdougal. matt. >> well first of all, another day of trial, another witness and still no -- nowhere close to allegations or evidence of illegality. i think the jury is probably at this point four weeks in very...
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the karen mcdougal breaks november 7th. talk about the timeline that hope hicks pulled back the curtain on. >> reporter: right. she acknowledged, nicolle, that on october 7th directly that the conversations ended up beginning about concern about women voters and cratering support here and, of course, if you're looking at potentially more women's stories -- allegations coming forward as they were in real time during those weeks there, it was of the most concern for this trump operation. that's why the prosecution brought forward multiple statements that trump made himself on his social media account tweeting out, in part saying, can you believe i lost a large number of women voters based on events that never happened? another tweet that these phony stories have impact. they were used by the prosecution to show the jury that donald trump was acknowledging these stories and access hollywood tape hurt him politically. that's why in those closing weeks there was not only concern about him and these stories, but an effort to turn
the karen mcdougal breaks november 7th. talk about the timeline that hope hicks pulled back the curtain on. >> reporter: right. she acknowledged, nicolle, that on october 7th directly that the conversations ended up beginning about concern about women voters and cratering support here and, of course, if you're looking at potentially more women's stories -- allegations coming forward as they were in real time during those weeks there, it was of the most concern for this trump operation....
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there is a chance that karen mcdougal could take the stand here. so you have been watching all of this, katie, what are your thoughts? at this point. to go i am of course always looking at the political side of all of this. there was an interesting poll that came out yesterday saying even if trump were convicted in the specific case, 62% of people say it would not affect their vote. 15% of people say that it would encourage them to vote for him if he were to be convicted. than about 20% of people that say invite and encourage them not to vote for him. so while we are all watching this the american people are paying attention to this very specific case. a lot of people have argued that president trump is going to be able on the campaign trail as he has to say i am a victim of this but i think the broader argument as he could say democrats are using the justice system to go after their political opponents by all of the analysis we have heard by our excellent legal analyst so far in this case, they don't yet have evidence trump knew about these paymen
there is a chance that karen mcdougal could take the stand here. so you have been watching all of this, katie, what are your thoughts? at this point. to go i am of course always looking at the political side of all of this. there was an interesting poll that came out yesterday saying even if trump were convicted in the specific case, 62% of people say it would not affect their vote. 15% of people say that it would encourage them to vote for him if he were to be convicted. than about 20% of...
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when i talked first about the agreement with karen mcdougal and ami. on cross, there is an attempt to say, well, lawyers negotiated this, even in the opening, this was blessed by lawyers. to give the jury the impression that lawyers said this is okay so donald trump must've thought it was okay. by the way, an objection that got sustained because you can't make that argument. he has no advice of counsel or presence of counsel. >> ruled out in pretrial motions. >>. now you have this agreement. the agreement, the word campaign doesn't show up once, right ? this agreement with karen mcdougal is for promotional opportunities, for her to be on the cover of the magazine, for her to go straight articles. and, he never on redirect, it was so effective from the state because they are like campaign doesn't come up anywhere. when you talked to your attorney, ami general counsel, you never mentioned michael cohen, you never mentioned the campaign, you never mentioned you were trying to help once the election. there's not but, this looks like a standard agreement fo
when i talked first about the agreement with karen mcdougal and ami. on cross, there is an attempt to say, well, lawyers negotiated this, even in the opening, this was blessed by lawyers. to give the jury the impression that lawyers said this is okay so donald trump must've thought it was okay. by the way, an objection that got sustained because you can't make that argument. he has no advice of counsel or presence of counsel. >> ruled out in pretrial motions. >>. now you have this...
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the reaction when karen mcdougal's story went public. and back with us is yasmin vossoughian, katie phang, jeremy soland and tristan snell. host talking about when the "wall street journal" came out with this bombshell article about the karen mcdougal deal. fill us in. >> reporter: they talked about that moment, that was november 4th, just a couple of days before the election, four days before the election on that, and there was some back and forth conversations on that. they also talked about the agreement made between dylan howard, michael cohen between the shell company, keith davidson, the two women, karen mcdougal, stormy daniels and david dennison, aka donald trump. at one point steinglass, one of the attorneys for the people, says who signed the agreement on behalf of david dennison? and davidson says karen mcdougal and stormy daniels's attorney says michael cohen esquire. michael cohen signed also on behalf of david dennison, david dennison, aka donald trump, his pseudonym did not sign this agreement. i think this is a really imp
the reaction when karen mcdougal's story went public. and back with us is yasmin vossoughian, katie phang, jeremy soland and tristan snell. host talking about when the "wall street journal" came out with this bombshell article about the karen mcdougal deal. fill us in. >> reporter: they talked about that moment, that was november 4th, just a couple of days before the election, four days before the election on that, and there was some back and forth conversations on that. they...
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one was karen mcdougal. you had her first and her last name, her email, i think there was a phone number there. it was actually put up on a screen for the court to see, and then the other information was stephanie clifford, but it didn't say stephanie clifford, all it said was "stormy," and then it had a cell phone number. it is interesting, because i think part of the reason rona graff was brought in to testify was to establish potentially for the defense that the relationship between donald trump and stormy daniels could have been about stormy daniels wanting to become a contestant on "the celebrity apprentice," that she wanted something from him. because she came to trump tower in 2007, she has written about it in her book called "full disclosure," they had a meeting, and the allegation that was left for the defense by the jury is that she was there angling to get a slot or a celebrity spot on that show, "celebrity apprentice." >> interesting. kristy, you had taught blanche to explain somewhat awkwardly t
one was karen mcdougal. you had her first and her last name, her email, i think there was a phone number there. it was actually put up on a screen for the court to see, and then the other information was stephanie clifford, but it didn't say stephanie clifford, all it said was "stormy," and then it had a cell phone number. it is interesting, because i think part of the reason rona graff was brought in to testify was to establish potentially for the defense that the relationship...
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the present very cognizant of something going with karen mcdougal. and now you're getting the dynamics. we talked a lot when david pecker testifying about the foundational elements of what they were setting up. the prosecution. this is very much along those lines as well. didn't gotten to stormy daniels yet, but the jury is hearing how this all works and getting a very inside look into as opposed to competing dynamics between two different news organizations. and also the very clear desire stated by davidson that mcdougal not want her story to be public, wanting to go through ami, including some pretty exorbitant michelle offers on the table to try and ensure that the story did not ever see the light of day. it also shows how much negotiating happened back-and-forth, and how the urgency changed is we've got closer to there are convention. >> and as we'll learn with stormy daniels, the election and paula keith davidson is going to be a juicy witness before that, there were some witnesses who would not be described it in that way i love a good archives
the present very cognizant of something going with karen mcdougal. and now you're getting the dynamics. we talked a lot when david pecker testifying about the foundational elements of what they were setting up. the prosecution. this is very much along those lines as well. didn't gotten to stormy daniels yet, but the jury is hearing how this all works and getting a very inside look into as opposed to competing dynamics between two different news organizations. and also the very clear desire...
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story not to help donald trump, but to help karen mcdougal. defense attorney emil bove. and you were very clear on cross-examination that ms. mcdougal did not want to publish that story, right? that is correct. bove, she wanted to promote her name and brand, correct? yes. she, karen mcdougal was illegitimate celebrity at that time, right? pecker, let me say this. did she meet the celebrity category at that time? no. there were reportedly audible chuckles in the courtroom after that happened. it was not what you would call a highlight moment for the defense. in fact, to be honest from my perspective almost none of it so far has seen all that great for donald trump. maybe you don't need a compelling narrative when the job is to get jurors to believe in reasonable doubt or maybe this is what is happening when you work with an impossible client and do a better job. what does a competent defense strategy look like in this trial? is it turns out, joining me now is andrew wiseman, and anna bello, a pleasure to have you both onset. first of all, i am
story not to help donald trump, but to help karen mcdougal. defense attorney emil bove. and you were very clear on cross-examination that ms. mcdougal did not want to publish that story, right? that is correct. bove, she wanted to promote her name and brand, correct? yes. she, karen mcdougal was illegitimate celebrity at that time, right? pecker, let me say this. did she meet the celebrity category at that time? no. there were reportedly audible chuckles in the courtroom after that happened. it...
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karen mcdougal story. and when you look at the charges jeong documents here for trump, there are some hints about where this goes next david pecker ends up paying her, but at some point, he decides to not get reimbursed from trump wod and i'm curis as to why that happened. so ts is the opening salvo, but there's more to come. >> so again, you're not going to find the crime a to z found in any one paragraphf testimony, prosecutors have to build a case here. i think two things jump out at mfrom the transcriptone,his is a full nine alarm fire in trump wld & in the national enquirer in pecker'environment, they are i mean, they're pulling each other out of meetings. borderline panicking. the other thing is that a establishes a really important chain of communication because this is one of the rare instances. there's a few were david pecker has direct contact with donald trump. most of its with michael cohen. and the weakness that arthur just pointed out is, well, how do you know that michael cohen was truly act
karen mcdougal story. and when you look at the charges jeong documents here for trump, there are some hints about where this goes next david pecker ends up paying her, but at some point, he decides to not get reimbursed from trump wod and i'm curis as to why that happened. so ts is the opening salvo, but there's more to come. >> so again, you're not going to find the crime a to z found in any one paragraphf testimony, prosecutors have to build a case here. i think two things jump out at...
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>> that david pecker was killed in the catch and kill stories including karen mcdougal and other catch and kill stories, that he was at meetings when these were discussed, but when it came to stormy daniels, he backed out, for a reason that actually was, you know, really silly in that he was never reimbursed or never paid back and he didn't want to get involved with a porn star according to his own testimony because of contracts he had with walmart. that's why the people are calling him. what the defense is trying to do in cross examination is create separation. okay, there may have been this karen mcdougal arrangement there may have been this 2015 meeting, there may have been this catch and kill with a doorman, but you were not involved in the whole stormy daniels saga, so therefore you don't have valuable information about that. look, there are not a lot of options for cross examination. i've been thinking about it entirely during his direct testimony. where would the defense go? and they can only go to the classics, his ability to remember, his moative in that he has an agreement or
>> that david pecker was killed in the catch and kill stories including karen mcdougal and other catch and kill stories, that he was at meetings when these were discussed, but when it came to stormy daniels, he backed out, for a reason that actually was, you know, really silly in that he was never reimbursed or never paid back and he didn't want to get involved with a porn star according to his own testimony because of contracts he had with walmart. that's why the people are calling him....
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between karen mcdougal and stormy daniels. he talks about not wanting to get involved in stormy daniels. he says, i am not purchasing this tour i am not going to be involved with a porn star. as i've suddenly this is a line. he's going to draw it. i am not a bank and he says about michael cohen. michael cohen was really upset. he said that the boss would be furious at me, that i should go forward with purchasing it. he was also in other parts of his testimony, he was worried about the legal implications t lawyers, he consulted campaign finance experts he has seemed to be spooked by what he had just done for karen mcdougal and didn't want to do it again, i are represented are keith davidson. he's going to be a key witness in his trial. he's the one who negotiated the ndas with mcdougal and with stormy and the timeline is professor kim knows is crucial in any prosecution in august of 2016, keith david rohde will say this is public, that he had a meeting with dylan howard who unfortunately is not a key witness, has been brought u
between karen mcdougal and stormy daniels. he talks about not wanting to get involved in stormy daniels. he says, i am not purchasing this tour i am not going to be involved with a porn star. as i've suddenly this is a line. he's going to draw it. i am not a bank and he says about michael cohen. michael cohen was really upset. he said that the boss would be furious at me, that i should go forward with purchasing it. he was also in other parts of his testimony, he was worried about the legal...
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who it a love affair with karen mcdougal. it wasn't michael cohen. >> al this last witness is because they know they are going to try to say it was michael cohen who did this personally. >> he department benefit at all. i'm trying to pick up on the common sense thing. >> let me just say a cohen point right now, both sides the defense has take a call of calling him cohen instead of the first name and trying to dirty him up in a sort of opportunity toir way. even the prosecution has put in a few things about he's a challenging kind of client for that bank guy. pecker thinks he exaggerates. so the jury, i'm sure, is very curious to see this guy. and i think the da's main task, they have laid the tracks well, but they know that cohen is coming. their main task is between hicks, between pecker, and then the paperwork is to corroborate every single hole so at the end of the day, they can get up and say, look, michael cohen, first of all, you can believe him for these reasons, but even if you don't, every single piece. but i bet bac
who it a love affair with karen mcdougal. it wasn't michael cohen. >> al this last witness is because they know they are going to try to say it was michael cohen who did this personally. >> he department benefit at all. i'm trying to pick up on the common sense thing. >> let me just say a cohen point right now, both sides the defense has take a call of calling him cohen instead of the first name and trying to dirty him up in a sort of opportunity toir way. even the prosecution...
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they're not trying to prosecute a case about karen mcdougal. so who cares because karen mcdougal leads directly to stormy daniel's end away. the defendant, i would argue with the way donald trump interacted with michael cohen and david pecker in the karen mcdougal case? not identical to what they did with stormy daniels, but it sets the key parts in place and to jamie's point with the first excerpt we saw, you see this again later. this shows that donald trump deputize michael cohen. he said to david pecker, this is the guy you're gonna be dealing with. on these kind of things. it happened to mcdougal and you see it happen again in daniel. so it's necessary background, sort of a ramp leading to the crime here. >> so the jury's third and fourth requests both had to do with this to trump tower meeting in august 2015, where donald trump, david pecker michael cohen, all are on tuesday, steinglass told the jury, as mr. pecker explained, the meeting began with donald trump and michael cohen asking what pecker could do to help the campaign. and you ha
they're not trying to prosecute a case about karen mcdougal. so who cares because karen mcdougal leads directly to stormy daniel's end away. the defendant, i would argue with the way donald trump interacted with michael cohen and david pecker in the karen mcdougal case? not identical to what they did with stormy daniels, but it sets the key parts in place and to jamie's point with the first excerpt we saw, you see this again later. this shows that donald trump deputize michael cohen. he said to...
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mcdougal, and stormy daniels, and were able to obtain the contract karen mcdougal had with the parent company of the national enquirer which led to the story you were talking about, and the election was rapidly approaching, so obviously we were trying to move quickly to get to the story before the election. we need stormy daniels was also talking about telling her story, but we haven't nailed that down at that point, but we did nail down the karen mcdougal story. >> did you have a sense of how connected donald trump was to the mcdougal payments? >> well, we knew david pecker, who ran the national enquirer, in american media, had a long elation relationship with trump. we had a sense this was done to protect trump. this was the first time anyone reported the term catch and kill in this context, that david pecker caught the story for trump and killed it. we did not have a direct connection at that time. we suspected it, which is why in the days before that email i sent to hope hicks we were talking to the national inquirer primarily because they paid karen mcdougal, and we suspected str
mcdougal, and stormy daniels, and were able to obtain the contract karen mcdougal had with the parent company of the national enquirer which led to the story you were talking about, and the election was rapidly approaching, so obviously we were trying to move quickly to get to the story before the election. we need stormy daniels was also talking about telling her story, but we haven't nailed that down at that point, but we did nail down the karen mcdougal story. >> did you have a sense...
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at one point pecker asked michael cohen who will pay me back for the $150,000 for karen mcdougal? and cohan said don't worry, the boss will take care of a. where do you think we are with where we have heard so far? >> pecker said he and trump had some sort of gentlemen's agreement on how this would w work. again this was a mutually beneficial relationship according to pecker. donald trump apparently sold the most magazines from them than anyone else and he said something like 80% of his "national enquirer" readers wanted donald trump to win the presidency if he ran so he saw this as an opportunity when donald trump decided to run to both help his business but also help the former president's campaign as well. as far as what we have learned so far we have learned a lot about the cd feelings of tabloid culture in new york city. we have not learned anything with respect to the crime at issue. i think the state is attempting to hone in on this vague new york election law that's says conspiring to influence an election through unlawful means, that's what they are trying to get them on.
at one point pecker asked michael cohen who will pay me back for the $150,000 for karen mcdougal? and cohan said don't worry, the boss will take care of a. where do you think we are with where we have heard so far? >> pecker said he and trump had some sort of gentlemen's agreement on how this would w work. again this was a mutually beneficial relationship according to pecker. donald trump apparently sold the most magazines from them than anyone else and he said something like 80% of his...
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but if you look at karen mcdougal's, hers is far more details. it had two addresses for him, an email address, and a cell phone. and notably, it has her first and last name. this is not a person donald trump didn't know. and rhona graff also testified, look, trump doesn't use email. we all know that. i set up his outlook contacts for him, basically, i was maintaining his electronic rolodex. these aren't my contacts. they're for him. the other thing she did is she's eminently credible. she didn't give prosecutors some of the admissions they wanted. they were trying to establish trump had a business reason to have stormy in his rolodex, in particular, he was looking at her as a plausible candidate for the celebrity apprentice. she wouldn't necessarily go there. she said yeah, i have a vague recollection based on some office chatter that she was talked about as an interesting candidate. but never did she say i heard it directly from trump. i overheard trump talking about her. rather, she saw her once in the reception area of the business offices at
but if you look at karen mcdougal's, hers is far more details. it had two addresses for him, an email address, and a cell phone. and notably, it has her first and last name. this is not a person donald trump didn't know. and rhona graff also testified, look, trump doesn't use email. we all know that. i set up his outlook contacts for him, basically, i was maintaining his electronic rolodex. these aren't my contacts. they're for him. the other thing she did is she's eminently credible. she...
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but karen mcdougal, it's it's essentially background information. the prosecution has has already put forward all about the transaction. i don't know if they need her. so before i get to that point, when you talk about tomorrow, it's all about strategy, right? and when your defense attorney you're exhausted, you you a literally exhausted. and if you put on the prosecution puts on a key witness tomorrow on friday the fence has saturday, and sunday to see. okay. this is the direct they're going to have daily copy and think could really prepare very well for the cross-examination on monday. so when i was a prosecutor, i tried to put on like nonsensical when no big deal witnesses, but on a friday on a friday, so that i don't give the advantage it is attorney to have that weekend prep what jeffrey is saying though, is i've been thinking about that. do they really need stormy daniels? but if you give the defense the opportunity to go up there and say, i am as a defense attorney, i am telling you my client has always said he didn't have sex with stormy dan
but karen mcdougal, it's it's essentially background information. the prosecution has has already put forward all about the transaction. i don't know if they need her. so before i get to that point, when you talk about tomorrow, it's all about strategy, right? and when your defense attorney you're exhausted, you you a literally exhausted. and if you put on the prosecution puts on a key witness tomorrow on friday the fence has saturday, and sunday to see. okay. this is the direct they're going...
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whether they were watching karen mcdougal. so he was, you know, he was very very concerned about it. >> so i said a moment ago, and andrew weissmann points this out. the 24 million was regarding stormy daniels, not karen mcdougal, but this was george conway telling, you know, this network that he was at a dinner where he heard donald trump talking about this. could he end up testifying? i mean, is this an opening for the d.a. to call george conway? >> you know, i don't think so. what i would say is it's consistent with, you know, that he's reacting to this, but it's not really corroborative of exactly what david pecker is saying because, you know, david pecker has a direct conversation with donald trump, and as vaughn correctly said, it's important for both what it is, and it's also important because as the piece that vaughn has alluded to, which is donald trump then saying he doesn't know anything about it, you can be sure the d.a. is going to play that so that you have that sort of, you know, there's nothing better for menta
whether they were watching karen mcdougal. so he was, you know, he was very very concerned about it. >> so i said a moment ago, and andrew weissmann points this out. the 24 million was regarding stormy daniels, not karen mcdougal, but this was george conway telling, you know, this network that he was at a dinner where he heard donald trump talking about this. could he end up testifying? i mean, is this an opening for the d.a. to call george conway? >> you know, i don't think so....
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but karen mcdougal, it's it's essentially background information. the prosecution has has already put forward all about the transaction. i don't know if they need her. so before i get to that point, when you talk about tomorrow, it's all about strategy, right? and when your defense attorney you're exhausted, you you're literally exhausted and if you put on the prosecution puts on a key witness tomorrow on friday the fence has saturday, sunday to see okay. this is the direct they're going to have daily copy and then could really prepare very well for the cross-examination on monday. so when i was a prosecutor, i tried to put on like, nonsensical went no big deal witnesses. >> but i think on a friday on a friday, so that i don't give the advantage initiatives attorney to have that weekend and prep what jeffrey is saying though, is, i've been thinking about that. >> do they really need stormy daniels? but if you give the defense the opportunity to go up there and say, i am as defense attorney, i am telling you my client is always said he didn't have se
but karen mcdougal, it's it's essentially background information. the prosecution has has already put forward all about the transaction. i don't know if they need her. so before i get to that point, when you talk about tomorrow, it's all about strategy, right? and when your defense attorney you're exhausted, you you're literally exhausted and if you put on the prosecution puts on a key witness tomorrow on friday the fence has saturday, sunday to see okay. this is the direct they're going to...
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the karen mcdougal interview. mcdougal is one of the women at the center of former president trump's hush money trial. she says they had an affair starting in 2006 that lasted around ten months. the former president denies an affair with mcdougal or a sexual relationship with stormy daniels karen mcdougal was paid by the company that owns the national enquirer for her story as part of a catch and kill scheme. i spoke to her about it back in 2018. karen mcdougal had never told her story on camera and full until this interview. and she's never done an interview like it says if we could just start at the beginning, how did you meet donald trump i met donald when they were filming the celebrity apprentice at the playboy mansion. >> they were filming there and i was hired as one of deployments to work at the pool party, seen as quite fine actually. and you'd you'd worked for playboy for some time yes. >> i after becoming play mated the year i was required to work so many events with playboy. and that was one of the eve
the karen mcdougal interview. mcdougal is one of the women at the center of former president trump's hush money trial. she says they had an affair starting in 2006 that lasted around ten months. the former president denies an affair with mcdougal or a sexual relationship with stormy daniels karen mcdougal was paid by the company that owns the national enquirer for her story as part of a catch and kill scheme. i spoke to her about it back in 2018. karen mcdougal had never told her story on...
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karen mcdougal's relationship with trump is much more of a relationship, right? stormy daniel's, there's a debate about whether turning to do is since she was in love with you? yeah. exactly. i think that that that also is going to come into play too, in terms of trump's credibility and denying these affairs. >> thanks, everyone. the news continues right here on cnn nothing dems my light, like a migraine with nortech ott. i found really the only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent all-in-one to those with migraine. i see you for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults don't take if allergic to nortech odi team allergic reactions can occur even days after using most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. >> it's time. we talk to a health care provider about nortech ott from pfizer. >> it's good to get some fresh air that's there. >> hi guys. bill. you look great. now that i have inspire, i'm free from struggling with the mask and the hose is fire inspires
karen mcdougal's relationship with trump is much more of a relationship, right? stormy daniel's, there's a debate about whether turning to do is since she was in love with you? yeah. exactly. i think that that that also is going to come into play too, in terms of trump's credibility and denying these affairs. >> thanks, everyone. the news continues right here on cnn nothing dems my light, like a migraine with nortech ott. i found really the only migraine medication that helps treat and...
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stormy daniels and karen mcdougal's former attorney, keith davidson, the prosecution played the phone conversation that michael cohen secretly recorded and cnn exclusively obtained featuring donald trump taking an active role in the karen mcdougal deal we're going to biden's been talking about that and the impression that it may have had on the jury throughout the program. if you're just joining us here, is that clip need to open up a company for the transfer of water that info regarding our friend david so i'm going to do that right away. i'd actually come up to me and i've spoken to allen weisselberg about how to set the whole thing up with so where we are funding yes and it's all the stuff all the stuff because you never know where that company never know what it's going to get it correct. >> so i'm i'm all over that. and i spoke to alan about it when it comes time for the financing, which will be what well paton yourself, getting old i got no check. >> back with the panel joining us. cnn's laura coates live. laura coates live at 11. also cnn's kara scannell, who was in court again
stormy daniels and karen mcdougal's former attorney, keith davidson, the prosecution played the phone conversation that michael cohen secretly recorded and cnn exclusively obtained featuring donald trump taking an active role in the karen mcdougal deal we're going to biden's been talking about that and the impression that it may have had on the jury throughout the program. if you're just joining us here, is that clip need to open up a company for the transfer of water that info regarding our...
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karen mcdougal, importantly, not stormy daniels. and karen mcdougal. it's not a call, it's an in-person meeting. michael cohen records on his phone. and the reason it cuts off is because he gets an incoming phone call. that recording is the only time the jury will hear a recording of any conversation between donald trump and michael cohen and to me it's a rorschach test when you look at the transcript of this tape, you can see it as donald trump knows what's going on. michael cohen is telling him, we're going to pay off karen mcdougal. trump essentially says, yes, what's it going to cost? one 50 do it the other way of looking at it though, is that cohen essentially communicating to trump, don't you worry about the internal details of it. leave that to me and allen weisselberg. you just know that we're paying we're going to hand at one point, michael cohen says, no, no, no, no. alan and i will handle that. so both sides are going to be arguing this case, this tape intensely, because it goes right to that core issue of donald trump's knowledge and intent
karen mcdougal, importantly, not stormy daniels. and karen mcdougal. it's not a call, it's an in-person meeting. michael cohen records on his phone. and the reason it cuts off is because he gets an incoming phone call. that recording is the only time the jury will hear a recording of any conversation between donald trump and michael cohen and to me it's a rorschach test when you look at the transcript of this tape, you can see it as donald trump knows what's going on. michael cohen is telling...
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but on the stand he revealed the president did not want to buy karen mcdougal's story telling him not to purchase it saying such scandalous stories always get out anyway and pecker said he never dealt with president trump on it directly but with his lawyer, michael cohen, when negotiating with mcdougall. pecker said he asked about lots of stories about celebrities including quashing an alleged affair of arnold schwarzenegger, tiger woods, and emmanuel ran mia among others. so when mcdougall came knocking to be paid to pecker said it was another routine celebrity sex scandal that happened to touch on his pal donald trump. we also got a preview of the trump defense strategy to attack the credibility of his former close aide and lawyer michael cohen expected to be there prosecution's star witness in a couple of weeks. trump's lawyer asked pecker all about michael cohen suggesting he is "prone to exaggeration" and he said you cannot trust anything michael cohen says as he raised that issue prosecutors objected to that. so far there has been no direct evidence the former president was actu
but on the stand he revealed the president did not want to buy karen mcdougal's story telling him not to purchase it saying such scandalous stories always get out anyway and pecker said he never dealt with president trump on it directly but with his lawyer, michael cohen, when negotiating with mcdougall. pecker said he asked about lots of stories about celebrities including quashing an alleged affair of arnold schwarzenegger, tiger woods, and emmanuel ran mia among others. so when mcdougall...
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also pecker's 2016 phone call with donald trump about the former playboy playmate karen mcdougal. and david pecker's testimony about not finalizing a deal, a payment from trump to reimburse ami for mcdougal's rights to her story about her alleged affair with donald trump just moments ago, trump repeated some all too familiar false claims about a rigged trial as he walked into the court as we are waiting for the verdict here, but still getting into the notes as of this moment, paula reid and kristen holmes are here with me. and right now, what the judges doing is he's re-reading the parts of the instructions that the jury was curious about. and there's one interesting part which was about david pecker's non-prosecution agreement, basically that they could not be could not be prosecuted. it's he was boy us basically on the standard. and what he's reading is you'll recall that testimony you heard about when david pecker was an executive at ami, that they went into a non-prosecution agreement with them federal prosecutors, and basically he was saying this is to help you as a jury asse
also pecker's 2016 phone call with donald trump about the former playboy playmate karen mcdougal. and david pecker's testimony about not finalizing a deal, a payment from trump to reimburse ami for mcdougal's rights to her story about her alleged affair with donald trump just moments ago, trump repeated some all too familiar false claims about a rigged trial as he walked into the court as we are waiting for the verdict here, but still getting into the notes as of this moment, paula reid and...
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would they call karen mcdougal? they don't need to call these witnesses. i suspect they're not going to call the doorman or karen mcdougal, but this this exchange is telling me that prosecutors are gearing up for stormy daniels to testify. >> well, and basically what prosecutors are saying is that they want to argue that these witnesses are not here to benefit from it because obviously that was something that todd blanche previewed mentioning that documentary, mentioning michael cohen and his podcasts, they're saying that they've benefited from this. they want to be able to talk to the witnesses and say that they they haven't benefited the second they say is to explain why both witnesses initially denied certain facts. michael cohen's testimony to congress, what stormy daniels is said, and those public statements. and i say the third is just showed trump's consciousness of guilt. do those posts show consciousness of guilt? >> they're going to try to establish that, right? why is he attacking them now, i think the defense could also come back at that and sa
would they call karen mcdougal? they don't need to call these witnesses. i suspect they're not going to call the doorman or karen mcdougal, but this this exchange is telling me that prosecutors are gearing up for stormy daniels to testify. >> well, and basically what prosecutors are saying is that they want to argue that these witnesses are not here to benefit from it because obviously that was something that todd blanche previewed mentioning that documentary, mentioning michael cohen and...
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karen mcdougal's relationship with trump is much more of a relationship, right? stormy daniel's, there's debate about whether or reduce that she was in love with me. yeah. exactly. so i think that that that also is going to come into play too, in terms of trump's credibility and denying these affairs, want to thank everybody the news continues, so deserve special primetime, cnn trial coverage right after a short break welcome to the roots of our legacy. we're excellence comfort and electricity are forever in blue welcome to beyond the mercedes, my buck eq suv somebody would ask her something and she would just walk right past we didn't know they were talking to her. >> i just could not hear i was hesitant to get the hearing aids because of my short hair, but nobody even sees them are nearly invisible hearing aids are just one reason we've been the brand leader for every 75 years when i finally did here for the first time, i could hear everything call miracle ear at one 800 to 347090, and schedule your free hearing evaluation today you've got better things to do t
karen mcdougal's relationship with trump is much more of a relationship, right? stormy daniel's, there's debate about whether or reduce that she was in love with me. yeah. exactly. so i think that that that also is going to come into play too, in terms of trump's credibility and denying these affairs, want to thank everybody the news continues, so deserve special primetime, cnn trial coverage right after a short break welcome to the roots of our legacy. we're excellence comfort and electricity...
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there's no people surrounding karen mcdougal? yes, there's no question for exclusivity when you're a weekly publication and you need to hold someone from speaking to another media organization for a week's time, you're going to put them under some type of exclusivity. it could be a couple 100 dollars, it could be several thousands of dollars. i mean, we operated no differently. i mean, we were bold about the fact that we practice checkbook journalism and certainly there were individuals who called the enquirer tip line specifically because they were looking for money, but television shows would pay for video. they would pay still pay for somebody's scrapbook are still photos. it would justify sum payments, but they weren't as direct as the national enquirer and in terms of what it's become i mean, it is a shadow of its former self in terms of readership and in terms of do you think that they, do you think it will continue i mean, that's that is so hard to say. i feel a great deal of sadness over the way pecker came forward and ju
there's no people surrounding karen mcdougal? yes, there's no question for exclusivity when you're a weekly publication and you need to hold someone from speaking to another media organization for a week's time, you're going to put them under some type of exclusivity. it could be a couple 100 dollars, it could be several thousands of dollars. i mean, we operated no differently. i mean, we were bold about the fact that we practice checkbook journalism and certainly there were individuals who...
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now they're talking about karen mcdougal, who is not at issue here, the payment to karen mcdougal is not at issue here but it shows in some ways a pattern. pecker said trump said karen was a nice girl, which suggested to pecker that trump knew her, and pecker believed the story to be true, and pecker told interest trump he should buy the story. but the defendant was reluctant because he felt the story always gets out. pecker advised trump to buy the story anyways because it was too risky, so close to the election, they should take the story off the market. they're not talking about jump starting karen mcdougal's career, they're trying to protect the campaign. and with all the documents in this case it's easy to lose sight of this call. they're talking about a flurry of calls, including a 25-minute call, then a 1-minute call from pecker to howard, howard to cohen, that they had. he said trump was overtly discussing purchasing her story to keep it from being published. trump deputizing cohen right in front of pecker so that pecker knows a go ahead from cohen is a go ahead from trump. t
now they're talking about karen mcdougal, who is not at issue here, the payment to karen mcdougal is not at issue here but it shows in some ways a pattern. pecker said trump said karen was a nice girl, which suggested to pecker that trump knew her, and pecker believed the story to be true, and pecker told interest trump he should buy the story. but the defendant was reluctant because he felt the story always gets out. pecker advised trump to buy the story anyways because it was too risky, so...
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they're going from their sabotaging karen mcdougal. they talked about, but door man who would made allegations which were proven to be false about a child, but trump's father was false. now, you're on stormy daniels, where are we in the testimony of david pecker? we're almost at the end because he is also talking about that trump tower meeting was what prosecutors have called the thank-you meeting where he talks to he goes and he sees trump. >> trump. thanks, tim taking care of this? he also invites him to the inauguration. david pecker said he didn't go, and then there's one more meeting that prosecutors have flagged. so this is what i expect david pecker will be asked about when in return soon for after lunch, was that it was in the spring or summer of 2017 after trump has been president, he invites david pecker to the white house, keep i'm sorry. i keep davidson. i'm dylan howard goes along with him and it was the thank you dinner. and he thinks him then trump thinks david pecker for everything he's done for the campaign. so that is
they're going from their sabotaging karen mcdougal. they talked about, but door man who would made allegations which were proven to be false about a child, but trump's father was false. now, you're on stormy daniels, where are we in the testimony of david pecker? we're almost at the end because he is also talking about that trump tower meeting was what prosecutors have called the thank-you meeting where he talks to he goes and he sees trump. >> trump. thanks, tim taking care of this? he...
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mcdougal interview along with stormy daniels, karen mcdougal's at the center for president trump's ongoing hush money trial she spoke to. >> me back in 2018 are revealed for the first time on camera, the full story about her alleged relationship with trump, which she says began in 2006, and about the payment for her silence brokered through the parent company of the national enquirer karen mcdougal has never spoken about it in such a tail on cameras since did you think maybe this would lead to a marriage maybe that's something though. you liked him enough. that's something you would have like. >> maybe did he at the time say tell you that you were his only girlfriend or did that subnet we never really discussed that i knew he talked to lady's but i didn't know there was anything else. i didn't know he was intimate with other ladies, but i guess if he's makes sense, if he's doing a behind his wife's back why would not do it by my back. >> but at that time in the frame of mind, you were in then you felt you were the only one i thought i was the only one. >> yeah. i didn't i thought i was the
mcdougal interview along with stormy daniels, karen mcdougal's at the center for president trump's ongoing hush money trial she spoke to. >> me back in 2018 are revealed for the first time on camera, the full story about her alleged relationship with trump, which she says began in 2006, and about the payment for her silence brokered through the parent company of the national enquirer karen mcdougal has never spoken about it in such a tail on cameras since did you think maybe this would...
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having karen mcdougal and david and dylan howard on the witness stand explaining the karen mcdougal hush money case, explaining why the national enquirer was catching and killing stories that could be bad for donald trump in the lead up to the presidential election, well, that could really help illustrate trump's intent in a very similar case, the stormy daniels case. to that end, also on the potential witness list is keith davidson. davidson was the attorney for both karen mcdougal as she negotiated her payment from the national enquirer and he was the attorney for stormy daniels, as she negotiated her payment to stay quiet. i am sure mr. davidson has plenty to say about what he believes motivated the silencing of his two clients' stories. if you recall, the reason d.a. bragg has to prove the why here is because the way he structured the charges against trump here is not just one singular crime. bragg has charged trump with a misdemeanor, the falsifying of business records, but bragg elevated that charge to a felony by alleging trump falsified those business records in service of commit
having karen mcdougal and david and dylan howard on the witness stand explaining the karen mcdougal hush money case, explaining why the national enquirer was catching and killing stories that could be bad for donald trump in the lead up to the presidential election, well, that could really help illustrate trump's intent in a very similar case, the stormy daniels case. to that end, also on the potential witness list is keith davidson. davidson was the attorney for both karen mcdougal as she...
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mcdougal and stormy daniels is that karen mcdougal hasn't been really out there in the news. she says they had a year long relationship that they exchanged. i love you's and i don't care who you are. that's never going to be funny to hear. no, no. >> it's humiliating for sure. >> obviously, we don't know how closely she is following this, but trump did complain on his way into court today, stephanie, about having to be there instead of being with melania trump for her birthday. here's what he said this morning. >> i want to start by wishing my life were you happy birthday? >> i should be with her, but i'm the courthouse for rnc. >> so far. >> i'll be going there this evening absolutely. >> case furnishes out with this horrible unconstitutional okay now, you also posted a two-minute video on social media for her birthday, highlighting her time as first lady, and that is what really stood out to you today's stephanie, how come you know, i rolled my eyes when he did that, it was it was so beyond inappropriate, but yet so donald trump that on the way into a trial where they are t
mcdougal and stormy daniels is that karen mcdougal hasn't been really out there in the news. she says they had a year long relationship that they exchanged. i love you's and i don't care who you are. that's never going to be funny to hear. no, no. >> it's humiliating for sure. >> obviously, we don't know how closely she is following this, but trump did complain on his way into court today, stephanie, about having to be there instead of being with melania trump for her birthday....
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one involved the hush money payment to stormy daniels and the other was the karen mcdougal contract. and this particular tape is about the second crime to which michael cohen pled guilty, even though he just did the paperwork involving the payment to ms smith google, but you notice the word cash spoken by donald trump. it's not easy to here, but it wasn't the reason i went on chris cuomo and released it to cnn because that morning, rudy giuliani trump's lawyer said it was that michael cohen had used the word cash and there was at that point with his criminal defense lawyer that we decided we need to correct the record. that tape speaks for itself. >> that's where you gave the tape to cnn, correct? >> at that time, the jury also today heard michael cohen's voice for the first time. i thought it was significant. it in a stunning recording that link trump directly to stormy daniel's payment. let me quote from what he said. this is a direct quote. i can't even tell you how many times he trump said to me, i hate the fact that we did it. how significant is that i don't really know i'm goin
one involved the hush money payment to stormy daniels and the other was the karen mcdougal contract. and this particular tape is about the second crime to which michael cohen pled guilty, even though he just did the paperwork involving the payment to ms smith google, but you notice the word cash spoken by donald trump. it's not easy to here, but it wasn't the reason i went on chris cuomo and released it to cnn because that morning, rudy giuliani trump's lawyer said it was that michael cohen had...
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that the real intent of it was to buy karen mcdougal's silence. that is really important because this trial will come down to was there a crime concealed, and that's what we're all looking for, and they were trying to say, well, hang on, that wasn't a crime what happened, she did some stuff, and she got paid. i thought that, to me, was really important and on redirect, the government's lawyers came back in and kept asking pecker about it, and he kept saying over and over, sure, she did some stuff, but the real purpose of that was to silence her, and in fact, he ended up paying a fine to the federal election commission for that payment for -- because a corporation got involved in an election when they shouldn't have. >> one point when bove, kristy greenberg, was really it seemed again -- i'm reading the document. that's why i'm asking you folks who were actually in there, when bove was talking to pecker and challenging his interpretation of some of the things that happened, it ended essentially with pecker saying, you know, i'm trying to tell the t
that the real intent of it was to buy karen mcdougal's silence. that is really important because this trial will come down to was there a crime concealed, and that's what we're all looking for, and they were trying to say, well, hang on, that wasn't a crime what happened, she did some stuff, and she got paid. i thought that, to me, was really important and on redirect, the government's lawyers came back in and kept asking pecker about it, and he kept saying over and over, sure, she did some...
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karen mcdougal and david . they are on the list as well as the man who was the editor in chief of the national enquirer at the time of that catch and kill scheme . dillon howard. now the hush money at the center of monday's trial is not the hush money the national enquirer paid karen mcdougal to kill her story. the hush money at the center of monday's trial is the money paid to stephanie clifford. you probably know better but the stage name stormy daniels. but the contours of these cases are very very similar. daniels like mcdougal was ready to go public with her story. and was paid to stay silent. what's more both of these payments the money for karen mcdougal and stormy daniels those payments were made in the lead up to the 2016 election. and that could be key here. because one of the things one of the essential things that district attorney alvin bragg will have to prove in the case is why donald trump did what he did. why he arrange those payments to stormy daniels. having karen mcdougal and david in dillon
karen mcdougal and david . they are on the list as well as the man who was the editor in chief of the national enquirer at the time of that catch and kill scheme . dillon howard. now the hush money at the center of monday's trial is not the hush money the national enquirer paid karen mcdougal to kill her story. the hush money at the center of monday's trial is the money paid to stephanie clifford. you probably know better but the stage name stormy daniels. but the contours of these cases are...
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so starting with karen mcdougal could, because i think this is actually fundamentally different. we were just talking about from stormy daniels. this was longer term, this was something that trump i mean, he's still denies actually the karen mcdougal relationship. what are you expecting from her? >> this one's more complicated. she has not been antagonistic about donald trump. she still speaks with him with some affection she described in her interview with anderson cooper, she described that they were in love. it was a very an actual relationship and that she ended it because she felt very bad about it being an affair. she's a religious woman and i think it's gonna be very different for him to see her in that courtroom versus stormy daniels or that was a more surface level? bowl, a fair it was a transactional. >> they were talking about a roll on celebrity apprentice for stormy daniels. it was not an emotional affair where he talked about having a child and karen mcdougal in her account, i think it's much more emotional thing than the stormy daniels that's really fascinating. i
so starting with karen mcdougal could, because i think this is actually fundamentally different. we were just talking about from stormy daniels. this was longer term, this was something that trump i mean, he's still denies actually the karen mcdougal relationship. what are you expecting from her? >> this one's more complicated. she has not been antagonistic about donald trump. she still speaks with him with some affection she described in her interview with anderson cooper, she described...
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keith davidson represented both karen mcdougal and stormy daniels. he explained to the jury how he sought deals with the national enquirer for both both of his clients. he told the jury how the release of the trump access hollywood tape suddenly drove up interest in daniel story. >> i just guessing them, it's like a magnet. >> the jury was shown texts that davidson sent to former national enquirer editor, dylan howard about both daniels and mcdougal of mcdougal gold davidson texted, i have a blockbuster trump story. howard responded, talk first thing i will get you more than anyone for it. you know why davidson and we're in conversation with abc news about sharing her story. he testified put mcdougal did not want to tell her story and prefer the deal with the national shall enquirer, which would have kept her story from the public at one point, while davidson and howard were negotiating, davidson wrote throwing an ambassadorship for me. i'm thinking isle of man. >> he said that text was a joke about trump's presidential run. >> that somehow, if karen
keith davidson represented both karen mcdougal and stormy daniels. he explained to the jury how he sought deals with the national enquirer for both both of his clients. he told the jury how the release of the trump access hollywood tape suddenly drove up interest in daniel story. >> i just guessing them, it's like a magnet. >> the jury was shown texts that davidson sent to former national enquirer editor, dylan howard about both daniels and mcdougal of mcdougal gold davidson texted,...
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that's how they were structuring karen mcdougal's deal. as david howard told me, i'm going out to los angeles to buy this story, to bury it. there was no mention of fitness columns, that came to late later, i was the one that was instructed, we now need to come up with these fitness columns. i was assigned a ghost writer. the first column ran and karen mcdougal called david pecker in a rage, because there was something in the column about vitamin c, and so we needed to get a new ghost writer. >> i mean lord, she does look good. we do have, obviously, there's no sound coming out of court, but i do want to read for folks this exchange. pecker didn't want to purchase the stormy daniels story. that was part of the -- one of the bombshells, if you will, this past week in court from thursday. pecker says michael cohen asked me to pay for this story to purchase it. i said i'm not purchasing this story. i'm not going to be involved with a porn star. we're not paying any more monies. the prosecution said how did michael cohen take that? pecker, he
that's how they were structuring karen mcdougal's deal. as david howard told me, i'm going out to los angeles to buy this story, to bury it. there was no mention of fitness columns, that came to late later, i was the one that was instructed, we now need to come up with these fitness columns. i was assigned a ghost writer. the first column ran and karen mcdougal called david pecker in a rage, because there was something in the column about vitamin c, and so we needed to get a new ghost writer....