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the day ended on the deal ami cut with playboy model karen mcdougal, who got $150,000 after pitching a story of her own. a year-long affair with trump, which she alleges and he denies. today, absolutely felt like a day to set up cohen's own testimony and to make the point which they did with exhibits on the big screens in the courtroom that what pecker is bringing to the table is not just stories about his favorite tabloid cover subject but also physical receipts. and it's only just the beginning, as the prosecution hasn't even gotten to the stormy daniels part of the story yet. joining me is neal katyal, former acting solicitor general and msnbc analyst. katie phang, trial attorney and host of the katie phang show right here on msnbc, who was at the courtroom with me today. and brian stelter, vanity fair special correspondent and author of the book of network lies. thank you all for being here. because you are at a disadvantage, our friend neal, i'm going to go to you first. what were you impressions today? >> first, i want to say katie's coverage of the trial live has been so spect
the day ended on the deal ami cut with playboy model karen mcdougal, who got $150,000 after pitching a story of her own. a year-long affair with trump, which she alleges and he denies. today, absolutely felt like a day to set up cohen's own testimony and to make the point which they did with exhibits on the big screens in the courtroom that what pecker is bringing to the table is not just stories about his favorite tabloid cover subject but also physical receipts. and it's only just the...
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this is where pecker testified trump asked him how karen mcdougal is doing, how significant is that? >> well, i think it could be very significant wealth. i mean, i think that you're seeing right now earlier today, we saw trump's lawyers trying to say jazz, the david pecker is memory was faulty asking questions about contradictory answers he had given in different interviews with prosecutors. and i think that you will see he that is a theme, but to your point about the picture, there's documentation that backs up. what the story of the pecker is telling. there were a lot of references to text messages to email so the fact that pecker and those are supposed to speak to pecker's credibility. the fact that pecker is saying that he had this conversation with trump where trump was knowledgeable enough about karen mcdougal to ask, how is she doing? i think could end up being significant. they also elicited the prosecutors will from david pecker, an answer about essentially his motivations where it was of animus for trump and david pecker is answer was he was my mentor. i'm paraphrasing, bu
this is where pecker testified trump asked him how karen mcdougal is doing, how significant is that? >> well, i think it could be very significant wealth. i mean, i think that you're seeing right now earlier today, we saw trump's lawyers trying to say jazz, the david pecker is memory was faulty asking questions about contradictory answers he had given in different interviews with prosecutors. and i think that you will see he that is a theme, but to your point about the picture, there's...
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mcdougall era influenciar la eleccion? >> pregunto el fiscal. >> si, si, respondio pequer. >> muy we have another day corte y corte de fiscal? >> si, respondio day of court in a freezing cold dentro de la sala, el expresidente se sentaba muy relajado. >> a veces cerraba los ojos varios segundos, pero no parecia quedarse dormido. >> pero tambien recibio una buena noticia la proxima semana, no habra juicio el y miercoles. >> hoy tambien declaro rona graff quien fuera asistente de donald trump durante muchos anos dijo que en su agenda tenia la intencion de influenciar la eleccion presidencial de 2016. >> ¿es verdad, senor pequer, que el proposito de cancelar la historia de karen mcdougall era influenciar la eleccion? >> pregunto el fiscal. >> fiscal? >> si, respondio we have another day of court in a freezing cold dentro de la sala, el expresidente se sentaba muy varios parecia quedarse juicio lunes y quien fuera la tenia los telefonos tanto como de stormy daniels. >> a esta ultima la vio alguna vez en la torre trump, sabia
mcdougall era influenciar la eleccion? >> pregunto el fiscal. >> si, si, respondio pequer. >> muy we have another day corte y corte de fiscal? >> si, respondio day of court in a freezing cold dentro de la sala, el expresidente se sentaba muy relajado. >> a veces cerraba los ojos varios segundos, pero no parecia quedarse dormido. >> pero tambien recibio una buena noticia la proxima semana, no habra juicio el y miercoles. >> hoy tambien declaro rona graff...
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one those involved former "playboy" model karen mcdougal who allegedly had a ten month affair with trump, which trump denied. >> after we had been intimate, he tried to pay me. and i actually didn't know how to take that. >> reporter: the defense argued that mcdougal's $150,000 deal with a mri, which previously owned the "national enquirer," was legitimate. she was paid and featured broadly throughout the publications. but under questioning from prosecutors, pecker said that was meant to disguise the actual purpose, which was to acquire her lifetime rights to her story so it is not published. pecker also acknowledged hiring an election law attorney to review mcdougal's contract. >> the best moment for the prosecution is david pecker saying that he sought legal advice on behalf of his company. that if he continued to do this kind of payment, that it was going to be a campaign violation. that is absolute gold for the prosecution. >> margaret: and robert costa joins us now. bob, it's hard to believe that it is news, it used to be expected, that two candidates trying to persuade voters would
one those involved former "playboy" model karen mcdougal who allegedly had a ten month affair with trump, which trump denied. >> after we had been intimate, he tried to pay me. and i actually didn't know how to take that. >> reporter: the defense argued that mcdougal's $150,000 deal with a mri, which previously owned the "national enquirer," was legitimate. she was paid and featured broadly throughout the publications. but under questioning from prosecutors,...
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one of them involving a former "playboy" model karen mcdougal who claimed she had a year-long affair with trump. a claim trump denied. but her story was bought and never printed. abc's senior investigative reporter aaron katersky at the courthouse again tonight. >> reporter: today, as donald trump listened intently, the former publisher of "the national enquirer," for the first time laying out the extraordinary relationship between candidate trump and the sordid supermarket tabloid, describing what he called the confidential arrangement he made with trump and trump's former fixer, michael cohen, to protect trump during the 2016 campaign. david pecker grinning widely as he pointed out trump in the courtroom, the former president smirking back. the two men had been friends for years. but pecker told the jury their relationship changed in 2015, after trump launched his run for president. pecker was summoned to trump tower that august and in a 20-minute meeting he said trump and cohen "asked me, what can i do and what my magazines can do to help the campaign." pecker testified he pledged
one of them involving a former "playboy" model karen mcdougal who claimed she had a year-long affair with trump. a claim trump denied. but her story was bought and never printed. abc's senior investigative reporter aaron katersky at the courthouse again tonight. >> reporter: today, as donald trump listened intently, the former publisher of "the national enquirer," for the first time laying out the extraordinary relationship between candidate trump and the sordid...
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deal and just to remind folks, the karen mcdougal deal, this was a playboy playmate who alleged having a ten to 11 month relationship with donald trump. she had a story and what happened was that the tabloid magnate david pecker in ami, his company hired her. i gave her $150,000 to write a column for a different magazine in their end-to-end prior, i think it was health or health and fitness or something like that. she never wrote anything. she was paid $150,000 but they had apparently david pecker had an election attorney look at this. this deal was going on. >> i think right before the 2016 election as well. yeah. well, it the implication would be that there was no actual election law violation as a result of these types of deals. right. so he has a lawyer ticket over. apparently the lawyer blessed it. right. and the deal with stormy daniels is strictly shuffle actually very, very similar, right? so that's sort of the implication. i don't think it actually is that potent of an observation. i don't i doubt we're going to hear from that lawyer in the course of this trial, which would be
deal and just to remind folks, the karen mcdougal deal, this was a playboy playmate who alleged having a ten to 11 month relationship with donald trump. she had a story and what happened was that the tabloid magnate david pecker in ami, his company hired her. i gave her $150,000 to write a column for a different magazine in their end-to-end prior, i think it was health or health and fitness or something like that. she never wrote anything. she was paid $150,000 but they had apparently david...
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meaning how is karen mcdougal. david pecker said he told trump in response thing for going fine, that she was staying quiet. david pecker says trump asked about her again that summer when he invited david pecker to come to the white house. david pecker says trump asked him, "how is karen doing?" he says he told trump she's quiet, everything is going good. david pecker said that he finally had to put his foot down on any additional payments for trump because trump was not paying him back like he said he would , first for a doorman from a trump party, who made a wild claim about a supposed it trump love child, then for karen mcdougal. again, david pecker expected to be paid back by trump for that payment. trump did not pay him back. this is from a reporter's notes from the trial today. david pecker told his editor, "we already pay $30,000.00 to doorman. we paid $150,000 ever since two karen mcdougal. i am not a bank. we are not paying out any further disbursements . david pecker testified he ultimately suggested trum
meaning how is karen mcdougal. david pecker said he told trump in response thing for going fine, that she was staying quiet. david pecker says trump asked about her again that summer when he invited david pecker to come to the white house. david pecker says trump asked him, "how is karen doing?" he says he told trump she's quiet, everything is going good. david pecker said that he finally had to put his foot down on any additional payments for trump because trump was not paying him...
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mcdougall and stormy daniels the karen mcdougall information includes addresses old addresses phone numbers the stormy daniels contact that former president trump had was just her phone number so all of this is unfolding just now and prior to that david packer on the stand where lawyers for president trump had it one more opportunity to ask him any questions they asked him about a conciliation agreement between american media and the federal election commission the he said he did not thank you was doing anything wrong in 2016 but he did say earlier today that he thinks he violated federal election law in his handling of the karen mcdougall story packer also asked if he thinks trump cares about his family and pecker said yes which is notable because remember yesterday he said he never spoke to trump about his family in handling the stories and that he believed the motivation was campaign related prior to that line of questioning the da office at another opportunity to question him, joshua stein glass and pecker said no, he has told the truth to the best of his ability he went through
mcdougall and stormy daniels the karen mcdougall information includes addresses old addresses phone numbers the stormy daniels contact that former president trump had was just her phone number so all of this is unfolding just now and prior to that david packer on the stand where lawyers for president trump had it one more opportunity to ask him any questions they asked him about a conciliation agreement between american media and the federal election commission the he said he did not thank you...
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she confirmed contacts were saved on the company's computer system for karen mcdougal and stormy, an apparent reference to stormy daniels. prosecutors say both women were shopping stories of sex with mr. trump ahead of the 2016 election, encounters he denies. >> are you nervous about stormy daniels' testimony? >> reporter: at the heart of the case, a $130,000 payment cohen made to daniels so she wouldn't go public and how prosecutors say that payment was disguised. but graff shed no light on that. graff testified even though she no longer works for the trump organization, the company is paying her legal bills. the jury also hearing from gary farro, who helped facilitate the payment from cohen to daniels, but the day began with them trying to undercut the testimony of david pecker, former publisher of "the national enquirer" and key witness for prosecutors testifying at length about how he helped silence people who could have hurt mr. trump's election chances. mr. trump's lawyer sought to raise questions about pecker's memory and motives on cross-examination. pecker defiant at one poi
she confirmed contacts were saved on the company's computer system for karen mcdougal and stormy, an apparent reference to stormy daniels. prosecutors say both women were shopping stories of sex with mr. trump ahead of the 2016 election, encounters he denies. >> are you nervous about stormy daniels' testimony? >> reporter: at the heart of the case, a $130,000 payment cohen made to daniels so she wouldn't go public and how prosecutors say that payment was disguised. but graff shed no...
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a second one, a woman named karen mcdougal who said she had an affair with john. they paid her to not tell about the story. there was the third one, stormy daniels. by this point, the inquirer was willing to make arrangements for her to be paid, to be quiet about that story. at that point they were not willing to put up additional money. michael cohen put up the money for that. the prosecutors explain this to the jury and then he says, prosecutor colangelo,, quote, cohen made the payment donald trump's direction benefit. he did it with the goal of influencing the outcome of the election. look, no politician wants bad press. the evidence at trial show it was not spinner communication strategy. it was a planned coordinated long-running conspiracy to influence the election, to help donald trump get elected through illegal expenditures. to silence people put something bad to say about his behavior using doctored corporate records and bank forms to conceal those payments along the way. it was election fraud pure and simple. we will never know if this conspiracy was the
a second one, a woman named karen mcdougal who said she had an affair with john. they paid her to not tell about the story. there was the third one, stormy daniels. by this point, the inquirer was willing to make arrangements for her to be paid, to be quiet about that story. at that point they were not willing to put up additional money. michael cohen put up the money for that. the prosecutors explain this to the jury and then he says, prosecutor colangelo,, quote, cohen made the payment donald...
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conversation about karen mcdougal. former playboy model who said she had a long-term relationship with president trump. they've been pressing about what the conversation was and the agreement was with her. she believed she was signing a deal to write articles and restart her career as a model in contrast to wanting the tell the story or this conversation about being caught and killed. david pecker continues on the stand and hear more about that conversation and that agreement with karen mcdougal. let's bring in former assistant u.s. attorney and fox news contributor andy mccarthy. great to have you with us, andy. >> good morning. >> shannon: let's talk about the relevance of this karen mcdougal testimony not from her but david pecker they viewed it as a business arrangement. she didn't want to story out there or hurt president trump. she didn't think she was killing a story. she felt that way later. she thought she was signing a deal to help her restart her career. in an exchange that story wasing going anywhere. what
conversation about karen mcdougal. former playboy model who said she had a long-term relationship with president trump. they've been pressing about what the conversation was and the agreement was with her. she believed she was signing a deal to write articles and restart her career as a model in contrast to wanting the tell the story or this conversation about being caught and killed. david pecker continues on the stand and hear more about that conversation and that agreement with karen...
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that a former "playboy" model karen mcdougal, who claimed to have had a ten month long affair with trump in 2006, which he denies. >> after we had been intimate, he tried to pin me, and i actually didn't know how to take that. >> reporter: four days before the 2016 election, "the wall street journal" reported that american media, which owned the "enquirer" at the time that had paid mcdougal $150,000 for the rights to her story, which was never published. in the gag order here, the prosecution argued trump should be held in contempt for all of his scathing commentary about this case. trump lawyer todd blanche said his client has been careful with his words. to that, the judge said, that's%
that a former "playboy" model karen mcdougal, who claimed to have had a ten month long affair with trump in 2006, which he denies. >> after we had been intimate, he tried to pin me, and i actually didn't know how to take that. >> reporter: four days before the 2016 election, "the wall street journal" reported that american media, which owned the "enquirer" at the time that had paid mcdougal $150,000 for the rights to her story, which was never...
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or he had just begun talking about karen mcdougal, the former playboy playmate, and his efforts to bury stories about her. this gets into a very important subject areas about what donald trump did and how he did it to keep stories from going public. and he could testify about stormy daniels later as well. there is more news though breaking overnight new charges in arizona against several donald trump's closest associates were trying to overthrow the election results. there former chief of staff mark meadows, is among those charged. now remember cassidy hutchinson worked for mark meadows and she spoke to cnn overnight, cnn senior crime adjusted reported katelyn poland's has the latest on that front, hard to keep up with it all galen yeah. >> john cassidy hutchinson is not likely to be a witness in this new york hush money trial, but she is someone who had a front row seat to the trump presidency. she was in the white house. she's someone who was very loyal to donald trump at the time it before becoming a key witness related to what happened during the 2020 election that led to other crim
or he had just begun talking about karen mcdougal, the former playboy playmate, and his efforts to bury stories about her. this gets into a very important subject areas about what donald trump did and how he did it to keep stories from going public. and he could testify about stormy daniels later as well. there is more news though breaking overnight new charges in arizona against several donald trump's closest associates were trying to overthrow the election results. there former chief of staff...
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so when he is back on this in on thursday, he will then begin to describe the karen mcdougal deal we got just the beginning of this today where they learned about her allegation of a romantic relationship with trump, and they're figuring out what to do with it. when he left us 20 today was that he was being called frequently by a by michael cohen who wanted to know where things stood. so that will pick up on thursday, understanding how this deal ended up being one of these caching kills were ami paid $150,000 start to go away and then shifting into the stormy daniels payment that is at the heart of this case. and what that transfer and how am i found out about it and how it ultimately led to michael cohen being the one to pay the $130,000 that then prosecutor peter say trump reimbursed in width so that we'll get to the key elements of this case when pecker is back on the stand on thursday. >> all right. kara scannell outside the courthouse in manhattan. thanks so much for joining us. sounded discuss is jeremy saland, a former prosecutor with manhattan district attorney, as well as tr
so when he is back on this in on thursday, he will then begin to describe the karen mcdougal deal we got just the beginning of this today where they learned about her allegation of a romantic relationship with trump, and they're figuring out what to do with it. when he left us 20 today was that he was being called frequently by a by michael cohen who wanted to know where things stood. so that will pick up on thursday, understanding how this deal ended up being one of these caching kills were...
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mcdougal to get up there potentially. >> i just remind everyone what karen mcdougal has said about her alleged affair with donald trump when i got what ham actually, there was a there was a real relationship there, there was real if they were real feelings between the two of us, not just myself, not just him. >> there was a rare relationship. there. were you in love with him? >> i want to and do you think he was in love with you? >> he was. yeah did don't trump ever say to you that he loved you all the time? i still me he loved me no. >> i don't maybe this is not a question, but is monitor angry are about stormy daniels or karen mcdougal? >> well, this is something i reported on back in the de for cnn and she's far more concerned, an emotional about karen mcdougal cool. because mostly of the things that she just said there to anderson cooper she was in her home, right? she don't jump took her to their their private personal home and he also according to karen mcdougal, said the elward's said that he loved are and that they loved each other. i think for millennia, john, that's far more
mcdougal to get up there potentially. >> i just remind everyone what karen mcdougal has said about her alleged affair with donald trump when i got what ham actually, there was a there was a real relationship there, there was real if they were real feelings between the two of us, not just myself, not just him. >> there was a rare relationship. there. were you in love with him? >> i want to and do you think he was in love with you? >> he was. yeah did don't trump ever say...
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she also confirmed that he kept contact information for karen mcdougal and for stormy daniels who's said she saw at trump tower and assumed that she was being considered for celebrity apprentice from the transcript, am i correct that prior to starmer, stormy daniels coming up to the office at trump tower, you recall hearing president trump discuss whether stormy daniels would be a good contested answer? i vaguely the recall hearing him say that she was at one at one of the people who may be an interesting contestant on that show and then last step today you had michael cohen's former banker, gary farro, a connect the dots kind of witness said that cohen coordinated with him to try to create an account for an llc that cohen would use to pay stormy daniels at 130,000 bucks. >> now from the transcripts, they tell you what the new account would be four answer the same for real estate and did he express any type of urgency and opening the account answer every time moke michael cohen spoke to me, he gave a sense of urgency and this is one of those times answer, this is one of those times. let'
she also confirmed that he kept contact information for karen mcdougal and for stormy daniels who's said she saw at trump tower and assumed that she was being considered for celebrity apprentice from the transcript, am i correct that prior to starmer, stormy daniels coming up to the office at trump tower, you recall hearing president trump discuss whether stormy daniels would be a good contested answer? i vaguely the recall hearing him say that she was at one at one of the people who may be an...
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did that apply to karen mcdougal as well? yes. did he ever say he was currently -- concerned about his family? no." lisa rubin was in the courtroom, today. we don't have a proper transcript yet so we are piecing this together. the way that we cut and paste that together, is that true to what it felt like in courtroom proceedings today? >> it was to what it felt like but there were also a number of other explosive moments and to my mind, the biggest thing was david admission that he understood the payment to karen mcdougal was an unlawful campaign contribution and he understood that in real time, not after the fact. how? his own entanglement with arnold schwarzenegger, who was then going to be running for governor of california. he had a catch and kill scheme of his own with arnold schwarzenegger, who had been on the cover of two magazines that david pecker was acquiring, 70 or 80 times. the owner of this magazines said before we close these deals, you have to talk to arnold. arnold said, i'm a big deal with these magazines and i w
did that apply to karen mcdougal as well? yes. did he ever say he was currently -- concerned about his family? no." lisa rubin was in the courtroom, today. we don't have a proper transcript yet so we are piecing this together. the way that we cut and paste that together, is that true to what it felt like in courtroom proceedings today? >> it was to what it felt like but there were also a number of other explosive moments and to my mind, the biggest thing was david admission that he...
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we paid $150,000 to karen mcdougal, i am not a bank. we're not epeeing out any further dispersements. pecker testified he ultimately suggested trump himself should be the one to pay for the third catch and kill payment on trump's behalf, the one for stormy daniels. that gets us to the most important part of david pecker's testimony, which is why trump was so concerned about keeping these negative stories about himself quiet. this is important because paying someone hush money, paying someone to not say a distasteful thing about you is not a crime. prosecutors are alleging that the hush money payments in this case were used to influence the election. they were an illegal contribution to trump's campaign, and then they say trump covered up the payments by creating false records to make them look like legal fees. again, from our reporters notes today, steinglass, prosecutor, did you ever have any intention of printing karen mcdougal's story about mr. trump. pecker, no we did not. steinglass, was your purpose to influence the election? >> y
we paid $150,000 to karen mcdougal, i am not a bank. we're not epeeing out any further dispersements. pecker testified he ultimately suggested trump himself should be the one to pay for the third catch and kill payment on trump's behalf, the one for stormy daniels. that gets us to the most important part of david pecker's testimony, which is why trump was so concerned about keeping these negative stories about himself quiet. this is important because paying someone hush money, paying someone to...
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that's karen mcdougal. let me show you some of karen mcdougal in her own words about how in her experience and her view, how connected she was to donald trump. >> as you enter a relationship, you start to think about where this is going to go and how you feel. how did you view it? how did you view the relationship? >> you know, going through it, when i look back where i was back then, i know it's wrong. i really sorry for that. i know it's the wrong thing to do. but back in those days -- sorry. >> it's okay. back there that day, i was a different girl. i had fun. i was in the playboy scene. i was just enjoying life as much as i could. when i got with him, there was a real relationship there. there were real feelings between the two of us, not just myself, not just him. there was a real relationship there. i kind of, out of sight, out of mind, with everything else. i did have a lot of guilt but i still continued. >> you believe that he had real feelings for you? >> of course he did. i know he did. >> he woul
that's karen mcdougal. let me show you some of karen mcdougal in her own words about how in her experience and her view, how connected she was to donald trump. >> as you enter a relationship, you start to think about where this is going to go and how you feel. how did you view it? how did you view the relationship? >> you know, going through it, when i look back where i was back then, i know it's wrong. i really sorry for that. i know it's the wrong thing to do. but back in those...
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stormy daniels, karen mcdougal, and this doorman who has this story of donald trump fathering a child unwed, which apparently isn't true. that's number one. number two, they're going to attack his opponents in the 2016 election, ted cruz, marco rubio, and number three, they're going to promote good stories. we're hearing now from david pecker at the end of trial today, he's going into this emails. he has two emails. a number of telephones. we're going to start hearing these communications, texts, emails. it's the documentation, the checks, all of that that will back him up, and as danny said, he could be as important a witness as michael cohen. >> so thank you for being here, you were in sdny. i'm going to bring our off the record conversation during the break online. the issue here is that michael cohen was prosecuted by the southern district of new york, where you used to work. but the southern district of new york could not prosecute trump at the time, he was a part of the conspiracy. he's named in the cohen indictment, right? >> individual one. >> individual one, but he was presid
stormy daniels, karen mcdougal, and this doorman who has this story of donald trump fathering a child unwed, which apparently isn't true. that's number one. number two, they're going to attack his opponents in the 2016 election, ted cruz, marco rubio, and number three, they're going to promote good stories. we're hearing now from david pecker at the end of trial today, he's going into this emails. he has two emails. a number of telephones. we're going to start hearing these communications,...
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another from the former playboy model karen mcdougall about an alleged affair that donald trump denies before we even get to stormy daniels story his late a lot of groundwork for the jury. nada tawfik, thank you for that. for more i'm joined byjennifer kerns, republican strategist and conservative talk show host at all american radio. what do you make of what you heard today? i what do you make of what you heard toda ? ~ , . ., ., today? i think this charade continues _ today? i think this charade continues with _ today? i think this charade continues with that - today? i think this charade continues with that as - today? i think this charade continues with that as i - today? i think this charade | continues with that as i was listening to your correspondent i can't help but think about this reminds me of what bill clinton did in entering into a private business agreement over a personal relationship, allegedly with paula jones. and bill clinton was different and donald trump in this case in that he would actually be the sitting president of the united states. but the sitting president
another from the former playboy model karen mcdougall about an alleged affair that donald trump denies before we even get to stormy daniels story his late a lot of groundwork for the jury. nada tawfik, thank you for that. for more i'm joined byjennifer kerns, republican strategist and conservative talk show host at all american radio. what do you make of what you heard today? i what do you make of what you heard toda ? ~ , . ., ., today? i think this charade continues _ today? i think this...
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the white house and asked, how is our girl and made sure karen mcdougal was doing okay. they are trying to show election conspiracy here and donald trump and david pecker and michael cohen were part of it. president trump's lawyer will try to dismantle that when cross-examination begins this morning. back to you. >> brian: here is the thing, go out of your way to say whatever you think of that story, not illegal. this is not a violation, not a misdemeanor, it is not a felony. not illegal. you may not like it, that is what is going on. up to defense to say, they took a day and and a halfful your time and told you about stuff that might be good for page six of new"new york post." >> lawrence: david pecker said he assumed donald trump knew. did not know, assumed. >> ainsley: down the road, president biden will be in new york city, close to fox, not far from the anti-israel protest at columbia university among other schools in new york. >> brian: "new york times" is blasting joe biden for dodging questions about independent jou journalists. >> peter doocy is live at the cour
the white house and asked, how is our girl and made sure karen mcdougal was doing okay. they are trying to show election conspiracy here and donald trump and david pecker and michael cohen were part of it. president trump's lawyer will try to dismantle that when cross-examination begins this morning. back to you. >> brian: here is the thing, go out of your way to say whatever you think of that story, not illegal. this is not a violation, not a misdemeanor, it is not a felony. not illegal....
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. >> reporter: pecker also testified about an agreement with former "playboy" model karen mcdougal, who says she had a ten month affair with trump, which he denies. pecker acknowledged to be 23, which then owned the "enquirer," paid $150,000 for her story jusn and never published it. >> donald trump had not been running for president, do you believe this deal would have been made with ami, knowing what you know now? >> probably not, no. >> reporter: in his testimony, pecker said the payment orchestrator of michael cohen was dumb because they didn't want the story to embarrass mr. trump or hurt the campaign. pecker said he asked to asked cohen who would foot the bill. he responded the boss, meaning trump, will take care of it. meanwhile, trump's legal challenges expanded overnight.
. >> reporter: pecker also testified about an agreement with former "playboy" model karen mcdougal, who says she had a ten month affair with trump, which he denies. pecker acknowledged to be 23, which then owned the "enquirer," paid $150,000 for her story jusn and never published it. >> donald trump had not been running for president, do you believe this deal would have been made with ami, knowing what you know now? >> probably not, no. >> reporter:...
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the prosecution turned to the hush money payment to karen mcdougal, a model who says she had an affair with trump. pecker recalled during this time cohen instructed him to use the messaging app signal instead of regular phones because it's encrypted and messages would be destroyed. and the d.a. has evidence that trump knew, trump knew all about this. a recording by cohen discussing the macdougal payment through david pecker. >> court will resume on thursday with more testimony from david pecker. joining us now is joyce vance, former u.s. attorney, mia wylie, former civil attorney in new york, and hugo, covering washington and all things donald trump. joyce, i want to start with you. we've talked often about trying cases. when you have your case in chief, that primacy is how you do this. you start and end strong when it comes to the presentation of your witnesses. was it smart for the prosecution to start with david pecker thus far? >> well, it was smart, katie, and i am reminded that it was you who first said that you thought david pecker would be a great kickoff witness. i think that'
the prosecution turned to the hush money payment to karen mcdougal, a model who says she had an affair with trump. pecker recalled during this time cohen instructed him to use the messaging app signal instead of regular phones because it's encrypted and messages would be destroyed. and the d.a. has evidence that trump knew, trump knew all about this. a recording by cohen discussing the macdougal payment through david pecker. >> court will resume on thursday with more testimony from david...
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months later, trump invited pecker to the white house and asked again, "how's karen doing?" pecker recalled responding, "she's doing well. she's quiet." and he described a phone call where top white house officials hope hicks and sarah huckabee sanders encouraged him to keep paying mcdougal. >> mr. trump, do you still like pecker? >> reporter: and then there was stormy daniels, the porn star at the heart of this case. trump charged with falsifying business records to conceal a hush money payment so voters wouldn't learn of their alleged affair. in the final weeks of the campaign, pecker said he told trump's fixer michael cohen daniels was shopping her story. he says cohen told him to buy it, but pecker refused, telling cohen, "i am not going to get involved with a porn star.
months later, trump invited pecker to the white house and asked again, "how's karen doing?" pecker recalled responding, "she's doing well. she's quiet." and he described a phone call where top white house officials hope hicks and sarah huckabee sanders encouraged him to keep paying mcdougal. >> mr. trump, do you still like pecker? >> reporter: and then there was stormy daniels, the porn star at the heart of this case. trump charged with falsifying business...
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pecker, that your purpose in lob -- locking up the karen mcdougal story is to influence the election? that's trying to bring it back to the connection to the elections since during cross-examination he was certainly acknowledging he had a longstanding relationship with the tabloid and that there were years and years before the campaign when they were both promoting trump's interests and covering up embarrassing stories. >> the prosecution has to do everything that he can to bring it back to -- it makes this case a felony, that donald trump conspired to promote his election by unlawful means. if they allow the defense to create reasonable doubt in that one juror, this was business as usual, this is what donald trump did with pecker, even before the election, this is what they do, where is the illegalness in this? the prosecution -- this is the first witness. we have a long way to go. in their summation, the prosecutors have to connect all the dots and explain to this jury why they have proven that donald trump concealed a crime when he falsified the business records. if they don't prov
pecker, that your purpose in lob -- locking up the karen mcdougal story is to influence the election? that's trying to bring it back to the connection to the elections since during cross-examination he was certainly acknowledging he had a longstanding relationship with the tabloid and that there were years and years before the campaign when they were both promoting trump's interests and covering up embarrassing stories. >> the prosecution has to do everything that he can to bring it back...
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the two of them did speak about this alleged misstress karen mcdougal. i think the story should be purchased, i believe you could "buy or sell" it. trump said pecker did not like the idea but candidate trump said pecker would get back to him in due time. wasn't a good day for the former president. before proceedings had gotten underway, the judge was scolding him over his social meeta page, which the prosecution say had breached the gag order. if they were hoping that admonishment would exchange his behavior, they might be disappointed. >> i think the gag order is totally uncongress institutional. can't even allow articles to be put in. articles over the last day and a half saying the case is a sham and it shouldn't be retried or everyone submitted. to me, a gag is totally unconstitutional. i'm not allowed to talk to people and not allowed to talk about me and they're keeping me in a courtroom, that's freezing, by the way. in a courtroom all day long sitting up as straight as i can all day long because you know what, it's a very unfair situation. christi
the two of them did speak about this alleged misstress karen mcdougal. i think the story should be purchased, i believe you could "buy or sell" it. trump said pecker did not like the idea but candidate trump said pecker would get back to him in due time. wasn't a good day for the former president. before proceedings had gotten underway, the judge was scolding him over his social meeta page, which the prosecution say had breached the gag order. if they were hoping that admonishment...
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whether they were watching karen mcdougal. so he was -- he was very, very concerned about it. >> that will forever be in my trump is daddy phase. this is, again, part of the story we didn't know, right. what we knew is what was public. let me read from the transcripts of how the women and the mission of silences the women took shape. brag's team, you mentioned women in particular, did you raise that or someone else? pecker, in a presidential campaign, i was a person that thought there would be a lot of woman who could come out to try to sell their stories baz trump was well-known as the most eligible bachelor. and this is why he'll never attack him and the most beautiful women and it was clear based on my past experience that when someone is running for public office, it is very common for these women to call up magazine like the "national enquirer" and try to sell there stoyeries. what about bill and hillary clinton coming up? i was running hillary clinton as an enabler with bill clinton and it was easy to say i keep running
whether they were watching karen mcdougal. so he was -- he was very, very concerned about it. >> that will forever be in my trump is daddy phase. this is, again, part of the story we didn't know, right. what we knew is what was public. let me read from the transcripts of how the women and the mission of silences the women took shape. brag's team, you mentioned women in particular, did you raise that or someone else? pecker, in a presidential campaign, i was a person that thought there...
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david is company made to buy the rights to former playboy model karen mcdougal story about an alleged affair with trump years earlier. >> ronen spoke to mcdougal in detail, the allergen patients and the scheme to kill her story tomorrow when the trial resumes, ronan's reporting will be a key piece of evidence. >> i i spoke to mcdougal in 2018, and the only tv interviewed she'd done about her relationship with trump. here's what she told me once donald trump won the republican nomination, right? kites, you're saying ami suddenly came back to you with interests to keith? yes. to us for the story. yeah. >> what do you think it was that it was after donald trump was the republican nominee that they came back they wanted to squash story you're saying they wanted to protect donald trump i'm assuming so. yeah. >> if donald trump hadn't been running for president, do you believe this deal would have been made with ami knowing what you know now, probably not know how for not you're pretty you're convinced now this was an effort to do a favor for donald trump in the last few months of the presi
david is company made to buy the rights to former playboy model karen mcdougal story about an alleged affair with trump years earlier. >> ronen spoke to mcdougal in detail, the allergen patients and the scheme to kill her story tomorrow when the trial resumes, ronan's reporting will be a key piece of evidence. >> i i spoke to mcdougal in 2018, and the only tv interviewed she'd done about her relationship with trump. here's what she told me once donald trump won the republican...
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mcdougal the one alleged affair with alleged affair. the other was adore man who alleged falsely the trump was the father of a child. and the third, of course, with stormy daniels, who is the basis for the charges in the case. and david is the key figure in all three of these who basically controlled the money, or at least for two of them he controlled the money for how these stories we're going to be suppressed. and that, that's what that's what colangelo's talked about in the opening statements, and that's what cracker began to testify in his testimony today. and qarrah white is the suppression of these stories matter? >> because at the time hi and what they were trying to do in the opening statement and what they're going to try to do through the witnesses is take the jury back to 2015 and 2016 when none of this information was out in the open and the access hollywood tape had just come out and the campaign very much did not want these negative stories. trump was not the candidate that he is today with the popularity that he has now,
mcdougal the one alleged affair with alleged affair. the other was adore man who alleged falsely the trump was the father of a child. and the third, of course, with stormy daniels, who is the basis for the charges in the case. and david is the key figure in all three of these who basically controlled the money, or at least for two of them he controlled the money for how these stories we're going to be suppressed. and that, that's what that's what colangelo's talked about in the opening...
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she also had contact information for karen mcdougal, the former "playboy" model who had an affair with trump. she typed in two addresses, a cell phone number and e-mail address. trump denies that affair, too, but former "national enquirer" public er publisher, david pecker, has testified that at trump's direction, his tabloid bought mcdougal's story but never ran it to protect trump's campaign. and after the election, pecker told the jury trump thanked him. on cross examination, trump's lawyer, susan necheles, suggested stormy daniels visited trump tower because she was being considered for a role on the apprentice. graff said there was office chatter about that, adding "i vaguely recall hearing trump say that daniels may be one of the interesting people who could be on the show." but no ambiguity on one point, when trump's lawyer asked graff if she wanted to be there in court, her one word answer, "no." and as she left the stand, donald trump rose up out of his chair to greet her, whispering some words and extending his hand. >> reporter: the first week of testimony ended with a bante
she also had contact information for karen mcdougal, the former "playboy" model who had an affair with trump. she typed in two addresses, a cell phone number and e-mail address. trump denies that affair, too, but former "national enquirer" public er publisher, david pecker, has testified that at trump's direction, his tabloid bought mcdougal's story but never ran it to protect trump's campaign. and after the election, pecker told the jury trump thanked him. on cross...
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pecker also discussed in earlier scheme involving former playboy model karen mcdougal. she alleged having a nearly year long relationship with trump, which the former president denies. pecker told the jury he would not have entered into the deal with mcdougal if it wasn't going to benefit trump's campaign saying, we didn't want the story to embarrass mr. trump or embarrassed or hurt the campaign. trump's attorney, emil beauvais, used his time cross-examining pecker to show how the mutually ben relationship between him and trump went back almost two decades before the 2016 election. he confirmed with pecker that he had been giving trump a heads-up about negative stories during that time, bove as pecker if it was standard operating procedure for media to work with politicians, including sometimes to win elections pecker replied, yes. >> today was breathtaking. this room. he went on, he was breathtaking and amazing testimony. before court, trump commented on pecker's testimony at a stop at a midtown construction site. prosecutors cited his words to the judge on thursday as
pecker also discussed in earlier scheme involving former playboy model karen mcdougal. she alleged having a nearly year long relationship with trump, which the former president denies. pecker told the jury he would not have entered into the deal with mcdougal if it wasn't going to benefit trump's campaign saying, we didn't want the story to embarrass mr. trump or embarrassed or hurt the campaign. trump's attorney, emil beauvais, used his time cross-examining pecker to show how the mutually ben...
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pecker was that your purpose and locking up the karen mcdougal story to influence the election. this is laura's point about repetition. again he says pecker says, yes. so cyclists, if i understand you correctly, running stories that praise mr. trump appealed to your readership. packers says yes, they did what they were doing here was suppressing these stories that appeal to the rigueur ship in a way that later on in this, he does say this was actually against our interest because we could have made a ton of money on this story but chose not to because it was in our interest to help out donald. >> how does that play marcus? >> well, i think it plays well, honestly, for the for the government's case, when we go to the reputation of, your going through these themes like instead of being the national enquirer where i'm going to post these trump stories. i'm going to keep it because i wanted to win the election and that's really important for proven up in the misdemeanor to the felony sayyed this false business records claims, and i don't know. i've heard a lot of commentators say th
pecker was that your purpose and locking up the karen mcdougal story to influence the election. this is laura's point about repetition. again he says pecker says, yes. so cyclists, if i understand you correctly, running stories that praise mr. trump appealed to your readership. packers says yes, they did what they were doing here was suppressing these stories that appeal to the rigueur ship in a way that later on in this, he does say this was actually against our interest because we could have...
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in the case of karen mcdougal, they had a contract with her and that was according to david pecker solely to keep her story off the market but she did in signing that get other things with the agreement. she got, you know, she would have a column, she would get on the cover of a magazine. david pecker said that was all window dressing for the payment to keep her quiet but donald trump's lawyers will say that contract was actually legitimate and payment for services. that will come down to what the crime is. what was that payment, wasn't legal or not? >> you have the hush money case in new york and then you have before the supreme court the argument over presidential immunity. it's easy to talk about those in silos, but you say they are connected. >> they are connected because they are asking the courts, juries, and the country, is donald trump above the law. in the hush money case, you have a person who repeatedly attack potential wishes is that he is under a gag order. unlike any other defendant, he has not seen any repercussions. the prosecutors want a big fine. they don't want jail tim
in the case of karen mcdougal, they had a contract with her and that was according to david pecker solely to keep her story off the market but she did in signing that get other things with the agreement. she got, you know, she would have a column, she would get on the cover of a magazine. david pecker said that was all window dressing for the payment to keep her quiet but donald trump's lawyers will say that contract was actually legitimate and payment for services. that will come down to what...
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. >> reporter: pecker also testified about an agreement with former "playboy" model karen mcdougal, who said she had a 10-month affair with trump, which he denies. pecker acknowledged ami, which then owned the "enquirer," paid $150,000 for her story just weeks before the election and never published it. >> if donald trump hadn't been running for president, do you believe this deal would have been made with ami, knowing what you know now? >> probably not, no. >> reporter: in his testimony, pecker said the payment orchestrated with michael cohen was done because they didn't want the story to embarrass mr. trump or hurt the campaign. pecker said he asked cohen who would foot the bill. he responded, "the boss," meaning trump, "will take care of it." meanwhile, trump's legal challenges expanded overnight. his former lawyer, rudy giuliani, and chief of staff mark meadows, were among more than a dozen people indicted in a scheme in arizona to falsely declare trump as the 2020 winner. >> donald j. trump. >> reporter: trump, himself, was named as an un-indicted co-conspirator. pecker also made a
. >> reporter: pecker also testified about an agreement with former "playboy" model karen mcdougal, who said she had a 10-month affair with trump, which he denies. pecker acknowledged ami, which then owned the "enquirer," paid $150,000 for her story just weeks before the election and never published it. >> if donald trump hadn't been running for president, do you believe this deal would have been made with ami, knowing what you know now? >> probably not,...
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first with the playboy model, karen mcdougal. david packer on the stand said he had agreed with michael cohen to pay karen mcdougal at the direction of donald trump $150,000 to buy her story about an alleged affair. one of donald trump denies. michael cohen had a sheet -- had assured him that the bus will take care of it. he will be paid. but then david packer said after speaking to his general counsel about being reimbursed, he was told it was not a good idea. he told michael cohen, don't reimburse me. it is a bad idea. the deal is off. then we use the prosecution to bridge to the stormy daniels payment and tried to explain why, as they alledge, michael cohen made the payment to stormy daniels at donald trump's direction. that was one piece of it. but back to this issue of intent. you just have david packer placing donald trump's concerns about the election at the forefront of all of their conversations. even says after-the-fact that a dinner at the white house thinking, that donald trump asked david packer how is karen? when bo
first with the playboy model, karen mcdougal. david packer on the stand said he had agreed with michael cohen to pay karen mcdougal at the direction of donald trump $150,000 to buy her story about an alleged affair. one of donald trump denies. michael cohen had a sheet -- had assured him that the bus will take care of it. he will be paid. but then david packer said after speaking to his general counsel about being reimbursed, he was told it was not a good idea. he told michael cohen, don't...
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trump asked about karen mcdougal situation and thanked him for it. comey spoke out about all of this. take a listen. ou >> i was alone with the president of the united states. or the president-elect soon to be president. i was honestly concerned he might lie about the nature of our meeting so i thought it important to document. >> what we are learning here and what is so striking, nobody knew comey was going to come back up. is how in that one meeting, there were allegedly at least two different violations. one federal that comey was talking about. the president-elect was talking up his tabloid deal. now at the center of the trial. you can see on that screen there, so, a lot we are learning and this is just the first week of testimony. we'll be right back. of testim. we'll be right back. after advil: let's dive in! but...what about your back? it's fineeeeeeee! [splash] before advil: advil dual action fights pain two ways. advil targets pain at the source, acetaminophen blocks pain signals. advil dual action. business. it's not a nine-to-five proposit
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the story of karen mcdougall, who claims to have had a year-long affair with trump, which he denies. when he learned mcdougall was trying to sell her story in june 2016, pecker said he immediately called cohen. he said he and cohen were already talking a couple times a week, but after pecker brought up mcdougall, their calls became a lot more frequent. michael was very agitated, he told the jury. it looked like he was getting a lot of pressure. he kept on calling, and each time, he seemed more anxious. pecker said he assumed trump was asking cohen, did we hear anything yet? he told trump to buy the rights to mcguy dal's story, trump's response, i don't buy stories. when you do anything like this, i always gets out. ultimately, pecker's company paid karen mcdougall $150,000 for the rights of her stories, but never published it. pecker's testimony resumes thursday. trump today complaining he's stuck in court while president biden is out on the campaign trail. >> they're keeping me in a courtroom, that's freezing, by the way, he's out campaigning and i'm here in a courtroom sitting here
the story of karen mcdougall, who claims to have had a year-long affair with trump, which he denies. when he learned mcdougall was trying to sell her story in june 2016, pecker said he immediately called cohen. he said he and cohen were already talking a couple times a week, but after pecker brought up mcdougall, their calls became a lot more frequent. michael was very agitated, he told the jury. it looked like he was getting a lot of pressure. he kept on calling, and each time, he seemed more...
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it's karen mcdougal. they're talking about and he just keeps go i don't know. what do we get. and cohen says leave it to me and alan. i got it. no, no, no, you don't worry. i'm handling that's the crowd that that would be what i would argue i'm sorry, please. >> the province at some point it starts to look like it's just not credible that i can see this much and i can see this much, but i won't concede this. right. i was involved in the scheme that i'm now conceding with arguably, but at some point the notion. so i was involved in the scheme to make an illegal campaign donation and i was involved in this scheme to sort pay off michael cohen, but i wasn't involved in the part about how it was booked in my company's records. now, arguably that is the defense, that is their best defense. >> but at some point, if he's involved in all the other parts of this scheme, i think it's reasonable to say, well, maybe he was in part involved in this part of it if he was checking to make sure that the payment was made in cash, that does point to a level of interest in sort of the nitty-gritt
it's karen mcdougal. they're talking about and he just keeps go i don't know. what do we get. and cohen says leave it to me and alan. i got it. no, no, no, you don't worry. i'm handling that's the crowd that that would be what i would argue i'm sorry, please. >> the province at some point it starts to look like it's just not credible that i can see this much and i can see this much, but i won't concede this. right. i was involved in the scheme that i'm now conceding with arguably, but at...
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let's michael cohen, karen, that's karen mcdougal is a nice girl. is it true that a mexican group is looking to buy the story for 8 million. so trump is saying to hit david pecker that he talked to michael cohen. this is trump talking and says michael collins says karen's a nice girls is it true that a mexican group is seeking her story for $8 and pecker says he told trump, he absolutely did not believe that was true. $8 million from some mexican. and this is important because david pecker has direct contact here with donald trump. a lot of what david pecker was testifying about before he was communicating with and through michael cohen. so trump says to david pecker, according to pecker, what do you think i should do this is about the fact that karen mcdougal is allegedly out there with her story of a ten, 11 months relationship with donald trump this is in 2016, by the way, what he's running for president, he does not want the story out. pecker recalls he told trump, i think you should by the story and take it off off the market. that's, catch and
let's michael cohen, karen, that's karen mcdougal is a nice girl. is it true that a mexican group is looking to buy the story for 8 million. so trump is saying to hit david pecker that he talked to michael cohen. this is trump talking and says michael collins says karen's a nice girls is it true that a mexican group is seeking her story for $8 and pecker says he told trump, he absolutely did not believe that was true. $8 million from some mexican. and this is important because david pecker has...
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the payments were made to karen mcdougal in 2016. testifying this morning that michael said he had not been reimbursed for the payment to stormy daniels. and those payments to: in $135,000 that cohen paid did not start until after trump was president. earlier in effect bragg is trying to charge trump for seven that artie happened in the past. without a time machine, how do you do that? >> the reason it should not happen, john, it is just a bedrock matter of constitutional law in this country that you are supposed to be indicted on the charge that the jury is going to consider. that seems it should be straightforward enough but what happened here is brad gets the jury in new york to indict 34 counts that occur in 2017. all of this stuff about pecker and cohen and what they did in 2015 and 2016, none of that is in the indictment. what is in the indictment are 34 charges of falsifying business records that happened between february and december of 2017. coterminous with the indictment bragg puts out what he calls it the "statement of fa
the payments were made to karen mcdougal in 2016. testifying this morning that michael said he had not been reimbursed for the payment to stormy daniels. and those payments to: in $135,000 that cohen paid did not start until after trump was president. earlier in effect bragg is trying to charge trump for seven that artie happened in the past. without a time machine, how do you do that? >> the reason it should not happen, john, it is just a bedrock matter of constitutional law in this...
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the transaction around karen mcdougal, this other affair at a certain point, it started to become the parent to the people inside the national enquirer that there was too much much heat around this. there was too much risk, and i think that's why you see the stormy daniels transaction looking so different through colon and there was a report that the $3,130,000 was too much and sort of pass it onto cohen. >> it started to get both overly expensive and risky looking risky specifically in the sense that might ultimately have the potential to put people in legal jeopardy. >> what else do you think i mean, what's the most important thing you think will be used for on the stand tomorrow. >> i think speaking to that meeting. and what was said in that meeting and pushing back on what we already heard in the opening stages. today from the trump defense team, which is, hey, this is just a guy trying to protect his personal life, trying to protect his marriage by saying no, there was a meeting that catalyze this in which it was explicitly said this is about helping donald trump during the elect
the transaction around karen mcdougal, this other affair at a certain point, it started to become the parent to the people inside the national enquirer that there was too much much heat around this. there was too much risk, and i think that's why you see the stormy daniels transaction looking so different through colon and there was a report that the $3,130,000 was too much and sort of pass it onto cohen. >> it started to get both overly expensive and risky looking risky specifically in...