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michael cohen, not to. the attorney, what did you understand him to be saying to you in terms of, if you really want things to happen, if if you want to make things known, you should let me know. what did you understand that to be about? michael cohen, again, him, rudy's friend being a back channel. back channel to who? to the president via rudy giuliani. so rudy was representing trump in the mueller investigation. this time mr. costello it's like i feel like the genera of movies is so etc. seemed. it's like a bad mob movie, but we had a sense from the outside this was happening because basted on the things trump was saying in interviews and twitter. it's amazing to hear it in cohen's testimony. >> it's flat out obstruction. and the only thing that surprised me is cohen said this made him feel better. when i read it, i was thinking of de niro saying you g down there, there's so the coats for you and he knows he's going to get whacked. it seems so clearly through costello, michael cohen said costello was sle
michael cohen, not to. the attorney, what did you understand him to be saying to you in terms of, if you really want things to happen, if if you want to make things known, you should let me know. what did you understand that to be about? michael cohen, again, him, rudy's friend being a back channel. back channel to who? to the president via rudy giuliani. so rudy was representing trump in the mueller investigation. this time mr. costello it's like i feel like the genera of movies is so etc....
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michael cohen's admission that he lied to congress, to which michael cohen pointed out it was all in service of donald trump and done in coordination with an attorney for donald trump. todd blanche also tried to make cohen out to be disgruntled and angry about trump not taking him to the white house. it earned him the 24 objections from prosecutors, the vast majority of those were sustained by the judge. and through it all, cohen proved himself a very well-prepared and unflappable witness. during one tense moment, blanche did man to undermine one part of the testimony pfs. it was not significant to be you have discussed here. we checked our transcripts, but it was a piece of testimony from michael cohen on direct about a phone call cohen said was made in the days before he paid stormy daniels $130,000 in hush money. cohen said he told trump about the payment, but blanche today kplam clinton campaigned that cohen was talking to keith schiller about being prank called by a 14-year-old before cohen's cross-examination at the very start of court today, there was a lengthy side bar. it in
michael cohen's admission that he lied to congress, to which michael cohen pointed out it was all in service of donald trump and done in coordination with an attorney for donald trump. todd blanche also tried to make cohen out to be disgruntled and angry about trump not taking him to the white house. it earned him the 24 objections from prosecutors, the vast majority of those were sustained by the judge. and through it all, cohen proved himself a very well-prepared and unflappable witness....
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and to go after michael cohen and tear him down. and michael cohen, who was respectful. michael cohen who answered fairly cleanly. and they failed to do so. and in terms of anyone cooperating, you know, you look at who donald trump surrounded himself with. people who cooperate, they get their own behinds safe and clear from the trouble that he allegedly created. and the people who do what they need to do, if that's skirting the law, because that's what the boss wants. it's now coming home to roost and all these characters no matter what side they're falling on seem to have that same trait, and it's telling, and where it's coming from is the boss, donald trump. >> and with all that being very much part of the narrative, right? of what the -- the story the prosecution has told since his first witness david pecker who said the boss and i, the two principals -- pecker and cohen, they're the pro principals that hatched the whole plan to catch and kill. and then cohen from the first witness all the way through frankly to his own direct testimony, he's the staffer. right? he's
and to go after michael cohen and tear him down. and michael cohen, who was respectful. michael cohen who answered fairly cleanly. and they failed to do so. and in terms of anyone cooperating, you know, you look at who donald trump surrounded himself with. people who cooperate, they get their own behinds safe and clear from the trouble that he allegedly created. and the people who do what they need to do, if that's skirting the law, because that's what the boss wants. it's now coming home to...
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michael cohen didn't run for president. michael cohen went to jail. it feels like that is a basic topic sentence under which a lot of these witnesses will be supporting that story and that plot with their testimony. >> right. i think the idea is to almost not quite extract michael cohen but to build the evidence around him. he will probably come at the end in terms of of a witness. even today, i'm still struck by the new information that came out. we'll have narrators throughout. we heard about text messages that went back and forthwith the "national enquirer" when they went out to see karen mcdougal, one of the women who had a relationship with donald trump. they were trying to confirm if the story was true. there was an election night, a pledge that went back and for the between one of the lawyers involved that was representing karen mcdougal. we'll see a lot of that come through. and david pecker was not on the stand for very long. but just hearing the details that we got, the idea that they would, if a story, reporters were given about $10,000 to
michael cohen didn't run for president. michael cohen went to jail. it feels like that is a basic topic sentence under which a lot of these witnesses will be supporting that story and that plot with their testimony. >> right. i think the idea is to almost not quite extract michael cohen but to build the evidence around him. he will probably come at the end in terms of of a witness. even today, i'm still struck by the new information that came out. we'll have narrators throughout. we heard...
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michael cohen. and then you have stormy daniels, and here in riveting testimony today michael cohen saying that he was, in fact, told by donald trump to make her story go away. on october 8th 2016, he tells this jury he had a phone call with donald trump the day after the "access hollywood" tape dropped, the date before the presidential debate. on that phone call donald trump was frustrated to hear that stormy daniels was shopping around her story of her alleged affair with donald trump. and then though you have other phone calls over the interveing weeks in which michael cohen says that phone records show that the two men engage about the effort to not only have that story go away, but also attempt to have it go away after the 2016 election without having to actually pay stormy daniels that $130,000. but then you have michael cohen saying on october 28th he had a five-minute phone call with donald trump in which he told his boss, the man that he referred to as the boss or mr. trump, that the story
michael cohen. and then you have stormy daniels, and here in riveting testimony today michael cohen saying that he was, in fact, told by donald trump to make her story go away. on october 8th 2016, he tells this jury he had a phone call with donald trump the day after the "access hollywood" tape dropped, the date before the presidential debate. on that phone call donald trump was frustrated to hear that stormy daniels was shopping around her story of her alleged affair with donald...
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if there was anything negative i was to go to michael cohen so that michael cohen could buy it and make sure it didn't go anywhere. and that's important because this whole idea michael cohen went rogue on this, well, there's a meeting where donald trump knows michael cohen is going to get these stories, and, you know, that is all with this tacit approval there, that he's agreeing with -- he's buying into this agreement. so i think it's a really important piece of evidence for the state, and the fact they're so focused on it, that's among the first requests they've had for testimony, again, seems like a good sign. >> you know, yasmin, i feel like you're someone like me wrestles with your own role in all this. i feel when we look back we may have stumbled to have thrown away the other 21 witnesses and spent so many days talking about michael cohen and the one moment in three days in cross todd blanche seemed to have a gotcha nano second. what the jury is asking for are four things related seemingly to michael cohen's testimony perhaps what he said about the meeting, and if it syncs up to
if there was anything negative i was to go to michael cohen so that michael cohen could buy it and make sure it didn't go anywhere. and that's important because this whole idea michael cohen went rogue on this, well, there's a meeting where donald trump knows michael cohen is going to get these stories, and, you know, that is all with this tacit approval there, that he's agreeing with -- he's buying into this agreement. so i think it's a really important piece of evidence for the state, and the...
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michael cohen came into this -- everything michael cohen says he's almost out of a comic book grifting in new york. i don't think todd blanche is that way. >> you have evan corcoran who became a very important witness. turned over all his notes to jack smith. you do have rudy giuliani who represented trump in mueller all the way through the election denialism. he's now bankrupt. you don't have many people who represented trump and came out better for it. >> or escaped. >> or came out better, enhanced. tacopina might be the only exception. >> he's been pushed to the side. i don't know if he'll even get paid. if you don't perform well in front of donald trump he won't pay his bills. this trade off that i'll get publicity or i'll get a good paycheck and it's worth whatever personal embarrassment, it doesn't often happen for people. >> what do you say? >> i was surprised the defense went after davidson on extortion. first off, it's highly disputable if that's true. even if it was, you know what's not a defense to campaign finance violation, extortion. it's like playing tennis with a golf c
michael cohen came into this -- everything michael cohen says he's almost out of a comic book grifting in new york. i don't think todd blanche is that way. >> you have evan corcoran who became a very important witness. turned over all his notes to jack smith. you do have rudy giuliani who represented trump in mueller all the way through the election denialism. he's now bankrupt. you don't have many people who represented trump and came out better for it. >> or escaped. >> or...
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donald trump actually signed checks to michael cohen. here in 2024, a jury today for first time saw those very checks for themselves. >> i remember that. i think they ended up on the front page of the "new york times." >> that was very powerful. they didn't come out of a corporate account. most came out of his account and were signed by him. we also heard the evidence that the checks were sent to the white house via fedex for him to be signed. he signed them and then sent them back. he knew full well the money was going out to michael cohen. the question becomes, can donald trump's lawyers convince the jury was it for legal fees and was it not? the argument was made today that this was for legal fees performed. at one point -- >> cohen didn't work there anymore, right? >> he didn't. but they are arguing he was doing legal services. the interesting part i thought of the whole day was michael cohen would send invoices saying, per my retainer agreement. nobody saw the retainer agreement. at one point donald trump's lawyers were arguing it w
donald trump actually signed checks to michael cohen. here in 2024, a jury today for first time saw those very checks for themselves. >> i remember that. i think they ended up on the front page of the "new york times." >> that was very powerful. they didn't come out of a corporate account. most came out of his account and were signed by him. we also heard the evidence that the checks were sent to the white house via fedex for him to be signed. he signed them and then sent...
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>> michael cohen. yeah. it's hard sometimes to differentiate the two. >> frankly neither of them -- >> he was out on a tiktok live video with a shirt of donald trump behind bars that donald trump's lawyers were in court complaining about today, and there is this remarkable explaining about it. even the government lawyer joshua steinglass said we can't control the witnesses. we don't have the power to do it. the judge actually said to him, you should tell them, you need to talk to them. he understand he can't control them, but there are messages that have to go out enough is enough. donald trump he wants to respond in a political format. he's having to realize right now the constraints of this courtroom, but it's frustrating i think, particularly when you're seeing what michael cohen is doing, time and time again. after michael cohen saying he's not going to do it. he continues to poke the bear. and this is what's coming into court on monday. this is what -- it's going to be interesting because i saw michael
>> michael cohen. yeah. it's hard sometimes to differentiate the two. >> frankly neither of them -- >> he was out on a tiktok live video with a shirt of donald trump behind bars that donald trump's lawyers were in court complaining about today, and there is this remarkable explaining about it. even the government lawyer joshua steinglass said we can't control the witnesses. we don't have the power to do it. the judge actually said to him, you should tell them, you need to talk...
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michael cohen was pleased. you started to allude that to some extent this arrangement you came to at trump tower was mutually beneficial. you could explain what you meant by that. in writing positive stories about mr. trump and writing negative stores about his opponents it would increase news stand sales for the "national enquirer" so for me that was my benefit and then in publishing the stories it would benefit his campaign. brag team, the portion of the agreement that involved notifying mr. cohen about negativetories about women, what was the objective of that. david pecker, as i did in the past, when i notified michael cohen of a negative story, he would try to vet it himself to see if it is true or not and then go to the individual publication to make sure it wasn't getting published an getting killed. brag team, prior to that meeting have you ever purchased atory to the to print it? pecker, no. brag team. and how did that part of it, not publishing the stories help you? pecker, it didn't. crazy. >> fake f
michael cohen was pleased. you started to allude that to some extent this arrangement you came to at trump tower was mutually beneficial. you could explain what you meant by that. in writing positive stories about mr. trump and writing negative stores about his opponents it would increase news stand sales for the "national enquirer" so for me that was my benefit and then in publishing the stories it would benefit his campaign. brag team, the portion of the agreement that involved...
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michael cohen, no. they seemed to do a lot of work in terms of the story they were telling in establishing -- and this is, to andrew's point, talking up to the jury, making sure you're treating them with the respect and the ability to discern when a person was in the family, in the organization and was still lying for the principal and when he pleaded guilty to the crime, which happens to be the same crime trump's on trial for, and started telling the truth to law enforcement. >> well, first with a caveat that i agree with tim that usually the people who think that closing arguments are the most important thing are the lawyers who deliver them, i think that juries are pretty good at separating what is fact and what is not fact. now, there are a couple things about these closing arguments that stuck out to me. one, as my friend andrew mentioned earlier, the defense ignored the strongest witnesses that took the stand. very dangerous thing to do. the jury will notice that. they ignored pecker. they ignored
michael cohen, no. they seemed to do a lot of work in terms of the story they were telling in establishing -- and this is, to andrew's point, talking up to the jury, making sure you're treating them with the respect and the ability to discern when a person was in the family, in the organization and was still lying for the principal and when he pleaded guilty to the crime, which happens to be the same crime trump's on trial for, and started telling the truth to law enforcement. >> well,...
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intimidate michael cohen, no. nothing further, your honor. >> essentially it laid out after the defense tried to make michael cohen try to sound like the ex-employee who didn't get the job he wanted. their star witness for the defense exactly just painted as that guy. but literally an e-mailed evidence form that robert costello acknowledged that michael cohen picked somebody that was not him. >> it goes further. she says weren't you last week while we were all here trying to intimidate him, that seems to have a cord back to the dramatic clearing of the courthouse yesterday. >> and i also go back to the question for andrew weisman. i think there's a question around the legality of intent to commit another crime. in what these exchanges think on a broader part pull out is that donald trump, through rudy giuliani, through costello, were part of a conspiracy that is being alleged here that intended to commit the crime of influencing the 2016 election. that's where i was going through every day of testimony and this mo
intimidate michael cohen, no. nothing further, your honor. >> essentially it laid out after the defense tried to make michael cohen try to sound like the ex-employee who didn't get the job he wanted. their star witness for the defense exactly just painted as that guy. but literally an e-mailed evidence form that robert costello acknowledged that michael cohen picked somebody that was not him. >> it goes further. she says weren't you last week while we were all here trying to...
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it wasn't michael cohen. who had sex with stormy daniels, it wasn't michael cohen. who it a love affair with karen mcdougal. it wasn't michael cohen. >> al this last witness is because they know they are going to try to say it was michael cohen who did this personally. >> he department benefit at all. i'm trying to pick up on the common sense thing. >> let me just say a cohen point right now, both sides the defense has take a call of calling him cohen instead of the first name and trying to dirty him up in a sort of opportunity toir way. even the prosecution has put in a few things about he's a challenging kind of client for that bank guy. pecker thinks he exaggerates. so the jury, i'm sure, is very curious to see this guy. and i think the da's main task, they have laid the tracks well, but they know that cohen is coming. their main task is between hicks, between pecker, and then the paperwork is to corroborate every single hole so at the end of the day, they can get up and say, look, michael cohen, first of all, you can believe him for these reasons, but even if yo
it wasn't michael cohen. who had sex with stormy daniels, it wasn't michael cohen. who it a love affair with karen mcdougal. it wasn't michael cohen. >> al this last witness is because they know they are going to try to say it was michael cohen who did this personally. >> he department benefit at all. i'm trying to pick up on the common sense thing. >> let me just say a cohen point right now, both sides the defense has take a call of calling him cohen instead of the first name...
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we were thinking, michael cohen is the star witness and how will they corroborate michael cohen. and i really think the way to think about this case is this case is made very much without michael cohen. i mean, this is so corroborated and it is not just that you have david pecker and now keith davidson, they're stories are just hand and glove. i mean, they fit together so perfectly. and they tell a complex story. i mean, something that if you were making it up, it wouldn't be -- it would be kind of intricacy and also it is completely corroborated particularly with respect to mr. davidson by so many texts and email exchanges an the written documents. this is one where with almost every question there is a reference to a document so that the jurors could see there is no question about what he is saying. it is completely backed up. so by the time you get to michael cohen, i think the way that i think this is going to be summed up on by the prosecution, is to say, you know what, if michael cohen had said anything else, you would have thought he was lying. it is so completely consiste
we were thinking, michael cohen is the star witness and how will they corroborate michael cohen. and i really think the way to think about this case is this case is made very much without michael cohen. i mean, this is so corroborated and it is not just that you have david pecker and now keith davidson, they're stories are just hand and glove. i mean, they fit together so perfectly. and they tell a complex story. i mean, something that if you were making it up, it wouldn't be -- it would be...
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michael cohen didn't go to jail. how imperative is it to make it simple. >> always important to try to make the story as -- >> the defense has a very different job. this feels like a reasonable doubt defense. there isn't evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that the president knew about these checks. they'll chip away at the credibility of the witnesses, cohen, first and foremost, daniels herself. so lisa is right, the facts of the checks being written and the reports, that that will go in uncontested. the key facts that will be in dispute is the person and knowledge. then the ultimate trump card, so to speak -- not to use a bad pun -- is nullification. the wildcare is a juror who says, i can following the instructions, i'm going to listen to the evidence, i'm going to make my decision based on the facts presented in court, that's what gets the juror qualified, but thinking ennor that and says i don't care if the facts meet the law, i'm not going to vote for convict, because and i have problem with the whole things. th
michael cohen didn't go to jail. how imperative is it to make it simple. >> always important to try to make the story as -- >> the defense has a very different job. this feels like a reasonable doubt defense. there isn't evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that the president knew about these checks. they'll chip away at the credibility of the witnesses, cohen, first and foremost, daniels herself. so lisa is right, the facts of the checks being written and the reports, that that will...
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this was michael cohen's doing and michael cohen had this deal to get this home equity line of credit and to pay off stormy daniels. but donald trump didn't do that and by the way, didn't he tell his banker that he was doing consulting fees so therefore donald trump didn't know about that. it was a little -- it is awkward and it is basically a reach, but it is the kind of thing that the defense is trying to poke holes in a very strong circumstantial case. and i guess that is where they're going to highlight later on when they go after michael cohen and try to eviscerate him. >> so, to that point, this is from keith davidson's testimony yesterday. and this is what you alluded to. while i think could you tell by the emails that i was sending him, there was a great deal of frustration by my clients and i let him know the level of dissatisfaction was quite high and i stated goddamn it, i'll just do it myself. what did you understand when he said i'll just do it myself. that he, michael cohen, would not seek authority to consummate -- excuse me fund the deal, it was consummated with a sign
this was michael cohen's doing and michael cohen had this deal to get this home equity line of credit and to pay off stormy daniels. but donald trump didn't do that and by the way, didn't he tell his banker that he was doing consulting fees so therefore donald trump didn't know about that. it was a little -- it is awkward and it is basically a reach, but it is the kind of thing that the defense is trying to poke holes in a very strong circumstantial case. and i guess that is where they're going...
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i like michael cohen. there's plenty of material. the fact he didn't have a case to make is amazing. not only is there a mountain -- this is the easiest cross ever. there's a mountain of material, and he decided to go to the capillaries instead of the utterriys, and it's about him personally and the judge sustain the objection. >> all right. the republican field trip to court yesterday is still a topic of conversation. we've learned some new details about how involved the criminal defendant was in the visit and the things they said. >>> we'll tell but that, next. sd >>> we'll tell but that, next. it than ever, but so is saving. that's why america's best includes a free eye exam when you buy two pairs of glasses for just $79.95. book an exam online today. -dad, what's with your toenail? -oh, that...? i'm not sure... -it's a nail fungus infection. -...that's gross! -it's nothing, really... -it's contagious. you can even spread it to other people. -mom, come here! -don't worry about it. it'll go away on its own! -no, it won't go away on
i like michael cohen. there's plenty of material. the fact he didn't have a case to make is amazing. not only is there a mountain -- this is the easiest cross ever. there's a mountain of material, and he decided to go to the capillaries instead of the utterriys, and it's about him personally and the judge sustain the objection. >> all right. the republican field trip to court yesterday is still a topic of conversation. we've learned some new details about how involved the criminal...
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>> michael cohen it was, mr. trump's former fixer turned foe michael cohen taken the stand. >>> so, all the testimony and all of the evidence was intended to drive home the point that the entire conspiracy to conceal hush money payments that were made to suppress evidence was done at the behest of and at the direction of donald trump. during his opening statement, trump's attorney todd launche asked court this question, quote, think for a moment what a frugal businessman, a man who pinches pennies would repay a $130,000 debt to the tune of $420,000. to the question prosecutor said heck yes, and they brought a wealth of circumstantial evidence and such documents to make their place from jeff mcconney, now showing the do you want on how they got to the $420,000 figure, but how they sought to conceal the hush money, also revealing that donald trump is a boss who kept a close eye on every one of his pennies. to trump's own words from his own books that reveal he was a produce self-described micromanager and cheapskat
>> michael cohen it was, mr. trump's former fixer turned foe michael cohen taken the stand. >>> so, all the testimony and all of the evidence was intended to drive home the point that the entire conspiracy to conceal hush money payments that were made to suppress evidence was done at the behest of and at the direction of donald trump. during his opening statement, trump's attorney todd launche asked court this question, quote, think for a moment what a frugal businessman, a man...
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michael cohen recalls him saying he would keep an eye out for anything negative. nbc news reports this on all the factors that could have led the jury to ask about these specific pieces of testimony, reporting, quote, not a word of this is about the 34 counts of falsifying business records, which is notable. if the documents aren't false records, the jury doesn't even need to reach the question of whether the state has proven the other crime that bumps the charges up to the felonies. pecker was also the first witness who testified weeks ago now at this point so jurors have heard a lot since that time. but they have also heard an instruction telling them they can't convict donald trump on michael cohen's word alone under the law. day two of deliberations in the trump election interference hush money trial is where we start once again with some of our favorite reporters and friends. with us at the table our regulars legal analyst andrew weisman is here. plus investigaive reporter susan craig is back with us. and msnbc political analyst the host of the bull work podc
michael cohen recalls him saying he would keep an eye out for anything negative. nbc news reports this on all the factors that could have led the jury to ask about these specific pieces of testimony, reporting, quote, not a word of this is about the 34 counts of falsifying business records, which is notable. if the documents aren't false records, the jury doesn't even need to reach the question of whether the state has proven the other crime that bumps the charges up to the felonies. pecker was...
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this wasn't michael cohen, their problematic witness. this was hope hicks, who literally -- her testimony is littered with compliments for donald trump. >> so, if i'm the prosecutor in the closing, i mention -- i would mention the fact that she cried. look how hard it was. you saw. you saw how hard it was for her to make that statement. she did it because she had to tell the truth. i would absolutely draw on that and take them back to this moment because the jury is not going to forget this. this is the friday before they're going home for the weekend. this is going to be in their minds for days. >> vaughn, there's so much hope hicks fills in that i think wasn't known to those of us covering the 2016 campaign. let me bring back to you some of her testimony about october 7th when she gets the email from the "washington post." she gets ask, when did you first find out about the access hollywood tape? the afternoon of october 7, 2016. how long before the general election? >> a month, a little less. prosecutor, how did you learn of it? i rec
this wasn't michael cohen, their problematic witness. this was hope hicks, who literally -- her testimony is littered with compliments for donald trump. >> so, if i'm the prosecutor in the closing, i mention -- i would mention the fact that she cried. look how hard it was. you saw. you saw how hard it was for her to make that statement. she did it because she had to tell the truth. i would absolutely draw on that and take them back to this moment because the jury is not going to forget...
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and then you bring in michael cohen at the end. and i said this on the weekend with alicia menendez, and i said to them, all the witnesses are key witnesses. i'm just the narrater of the story, and i'm going to bring the whole thing home. i'm pretty good at telling a story. and that's what we did. they laid out all of the information, all the key pieces of information that was necessary in order to take the charges and put them together and demonstrate to the jury that a crime has been committed here. it went from misdemeanor to a felony, simply by meshing them together with the campaign finance and then the business records. now, the fact is that the media calls it the hush money trial case and so on, and i hate that. >> we don't. >> i know. i'm never referring to you. >> we'll give you time to vent against the media at the end, i promise. let me ask you about the evidence that you helped sort of tour guide the jury through, because -- and i said this as i watched the first 18 prosecution witnesses come up. i wondered out loud if
and then you bring in michael cohen at the end. and i said this on the weekend with alicia menendez, and i said to them, all the witnesses are key witnesses. i'm just the narrater of the story, and i'm going to bring the whole thing home. i'm pretty good at telling a story. and that's what we did. they laid out all of the information, all the key pieces of information that was necessary in order to take the charges and put them together and demonstrate to the jury that a crime has been...
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and then you turn to michael cohen. i actually do think that -- i mean, there's no way they brought this case thinking, oh, you know what? you have to believe michael cohen or else you can't convict. i think they're going to say that. and they're going to say he's corroborated about the things that really matter. and even if you just use your common sense, yes, of course he's a liar. that was a given in the beginning, middle, and end of the case, and they're still going to say that. but it doesn't mean if you -- this is very much like judge engoron in the civil case said. you could be convicted of perjury. you could be a liar. it doesn't mean you're always lying about everything. >> right, right. and i mean, every mob trial features unseemly characters that were part of the mob. i mean, the witness couldn't be a blunt person. there would be very few people in our jails. >> i will tell you a story about i a number of times put sammy -- on the stand as the cooperating witness. he was the underboss of the family who was th
and then you turn to michael cohen. i actually do think that -- i mean, there's no way they brought this case thinking, oh, you know what? you have to believe michael cohen or else you can't convict. i think they're going to say that. and they're going to say he's corroborated about the things that really matter. and even if you just use your common sense, yes, of course he's a liar. that was a given in the beginning, middle, and end of the case, and they're still going to say that. but it...
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michael steele, you have michael cohen on this weekend, the only live interview with michael cohen before the trial. congratulations on that. i want to show you, because i think in -- and i know we deal with the facts on earth one and there is not a lot of debate among those of us living here. but the facts are so well established. they're co-signed by a federal judge. doj putted their signature on it in the form of michael cohen and he testified about trump's role in overseeing the conspiracy to catch and kill stories using the "national enquirer" and michael cohen was the cutout. let me show you that testimony. >> in 2016, prior to the election, i was contacted by keith davidson, who is the attorney or was the attorney for mostly sunny clifford, for stormy daniels. and after several rounds of conversation with him about purchasing her life rights for $130,000, what i did each and every time is go straight into mr. trump's office and discuss the issue with him. when it was ultimately determined that this was days before the election that perfect -- that mr. trump was going to pay the $13
michael steele, you have michael cohen on this weekend, the only live interview with michael cohen before the trial. congratulations on that. i want to show you, because i think in -- and i know we deal with the facts on earth one and there is not a lot of debate among those of us living here. but the facts are so well established. they're co-signed by a federal judge. doj putted their signature on it in the form of michael cohen and he testified about trump's role in overseeing the conspiracy...
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michael cohen for that. go to david pecker. and what do they do? they're going to david pecker, and they're asking for his testimony about his trump tower meeting where the prosecution has said that's where the conspiracy was borne. the other thing that he said in his closing was he wanted the jury to think about that call between donald trump and david pecker. no michael cohen in that call, just between the two of them about keeping karen mcdougal's story from being published. and he said they weren't talking about jump starting mcdougal's career. this was about protecting the campaign. if you go back to that call he said it's easy to lose sight of the significance of this call with all the documents in this case. so he made a real point in his closing about how important this call was to showing that this transaction is an unlawful corporate contribution from ami to trump's campaign. look here, and it's the first thing they're asking for. so, again, i think the state has to be happy that they have clearly listened to the closing, and they are at
michael cohen for that. go to david pecker. and what do they do? they're going to david pecker, and they're asking for his testimony about his trump tower meeting where the prosecution has said that's where the conspiracy was borne. the other thing that he said in his closing was he wanted the jury to think about that call between donald trump and david pecker. no michael cohen in that call, just between the two of them about keeping karen mcdougal's story from being published. and he said they...
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three, allen weisselberg and michael cohen knew at the time. weisselberg in exhibit 35 takes down exactly what the scheme is. he wrote down the scheme. i mean it's like -- we're not getting them because they're smart. he wrote down what they were doing. in order to believe this you would have to believe that allen weisselberg, somebody who has been in jail twice for the president, somebody who has -- the loyal chief financial officer of the trump organization, decided pain of being fired was going to unilaterally decide for no benefit to himself that he is going to not tell his boss, which he's required to do if he wants to spend more than $10,000, he's going to engage in a scheme where he pays michael cohen $130,000 and then another $130,000. on his own and then to pull that off to keep that from donald trump, the scheme required donald trump to sign checks over and over again. >> and some of it feels so much quieter an so much less dramatic than hope hicks and stormy daniels, but the testimony in the documents, as andrew said, has note always
three, allen weisselberg and michael cohen knew at the time. weisselberg in exhibit 35 takes down exactly what the scheme is. he wrote down the scheme. i mean it's like -- we're not getting them because they're smart. he wrote down what they were doing. in order to believe this you would have to believe that allen weisselberg, somebody who has been in jail twice for the president, somebody who has -- the loyal chief financial officer of the trump organization, decided pain of being fired was...
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cohen arrangement and places the blame on michael cohen. what david pecker testified to today was the fact that donald trump was intimately involved with the agreement there and was aware of it and called it our agreement, him, michael cohen and stormy daniels, and this was not just a stormy daniels-michael cohen agreement. >> andrew? >> this reminds me, you, me and vaughn feels like four years ago, i think two days ago -- >> 17 years ago, aka yesterday. >> yes. george conway related the same type of story where he and his wife were invited to dinner with jared and ivanka, and he said the president called to say are you watching this? so he clearly was -- this is -- it's exactly the same time frame. but i think vaughn has it exactly right, which is, thank you have the d.a. sort of bringing donald trump directly through direct evidence, it's not through michael cohen, you have a witness saying i spoke to him, this was his reaction. essentially what on god's green earth are you doing? why did you release her and why is she speaking and that e
cohen arrangement and places the blame on michael cohen. what david pecker testified to today was the fact that donald trump was intimately involved with the agreement there and was aware of it and called it our agreement, him, michael cohen and stormy daniels, and this was not just a stormy daniels-michael cohen agreement. >> andrew? >> this reminds me, you, me and vaughn feels like four years ago, i think two days ago -- >> 17 years ago, aka yesterday. >> yes. george...
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it's not just a michael cohen case. but he's really important and they are preparing him at length over days and days and days for what will be for sure a bruising cross-examination. >> what's interesting about michael cohen is that everything about him that they will throw at him as an attack is what michael cohen did in service of donald trump. >> yeah. that's right. >> it was a lie that michael cohen says he was instructed to tell and a jury will have to decide and sort that out on the credibility side. but everything they're going to attack him with is something that michael cohen went and served prison time for and again, didn't have the alleged sex. >> he was doing it for the boss man is basically what he will say. i think where he provides is such a dangerous witness against, dangerous testimony against donald trump is there's nothing more you can take from michael cohen. >> correct. >> he's that person who has had everything taken from him. so there's not a charge he hasn't been hit with. there's not a credibili
it's not just a michael cohen case. but he's really important and they are preparing him at length over days and days and days for what will be for sure a bruising cross-examination. >> what's interesting about michael cohen is that everything about him that they will throw at him as an attack is what michael cohen did in service of donald trump. >> yeah. that's right. >> it was a lie that michael cohen says he was instructed to tell and a jury will have to decide and sort...
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it is going to come in when michael cohen testifies. because he needs to sort of explain himself and sort of what the consequences were to sort of what he had admitted to and what he pled to. but it would be improper for a jury to say just because this person pled to something, that means that person is guilty. that is just to be clear, that is a slightly different thing than michael cohen gets to say i did it and i did it at his direction. so that is the substantive proof, the fact that he then pled guilty to it comes in for sort of a different purpose. >> to the scene, and you were down there as well. but to the scene outside, and i know you got to talk to a lot of dismissed potential jurors. just tell me, i mean speak to sort of what george is getting at, the ordinary/extraordinary dichotomy of the week. >> we've done this a few times and this is the first few trial. i stood outside for each of the indictments and the arraignments and i feel like the taxi driver that came and picked me up and said what is going on today. it is donald
it is going to come in when michael cohen testifies. because he needs to sort of explain himself and sort of what the consequences were to sort of what he had admitted to and what he pled to. but it would be improper for a jury to say just because this person pled to something, that means that person is guilty. that is just to be clear, that is a slightly different thing than michael cohen gets to say i did it and i did it at his direction. so that is the substantive proof, the fact that he...
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all the attacks on michael cohen. like fine, michael cohen's michael cohen. but he didn't have the sex. he didn't run for president. and he's the only one that went and spent time in solitary. >> yeah. there is a disconnect between the consequence of following trump's direction and carrying out his demands because they were so loyal and the lack of accountability for donald trump. that's like -- this is the thing that we're going to have to explain. i really like where you were taking the conversation earlier, that okay, we might not be able to look for the court for accountability but everyone can think of themselves as a juror going into the 2024 election. the standard for criminality is very high. but the standard for a president should be much easier to understand. just basics. don't order a mob to attack the capitol. don't lie in all your business documents. i mean, the list goes on and on. so i think it's very easy to have a conversation with regular people about what their standard should be regardless of what any supreme court justice might rule. >> y
all the attacks on michael cohen. like fine, michael cohen's michael cohen. but he didn't have the sex. he didn't run for president. and he's the only one that went and spent time in solitary. >> yeah. there is a disconnect between the consequence of following trump's direction and carrying out his demands because they were so loyal and the lack of accountability for donald trump. that's like -- this is the thing that we're going to have to explain. i really like where you were taking the...
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one that goes through cohen and around michael cohen. the path through cohen relies on his testimony about purported conversations that he had with trump. saying "jurors do not have to believe cohen entirely on every minute detail, but they could adopt the overall thrust of his account." the second path to a conviction relies circumstantial evidence. ininference in common sense, perfectly appropriate grounds upon which jurors can render a verdict. plenty of reason even apart from the direct evidence offered by cohen to believe that trump was in on everything and fully aware of the legal risks and implications of what he had done. after all, trump was the only full-time participant in all of the key events. he was the person who had sex with stormy daniels. she says it. he denies it. the candidate running for president whose political interests were at risk if daniels account became public. he was a principle in the contract negotiations to acquire daniels' story. he was the person who ultimately gave the money for daniels to stay quiet a
one that goes through cohen and around michael cohen. the path through cohen relies on his testimony about purported conversations that he had with trump. saying "jurors do not have to believe cohen entirely on every minute detail, but they could adopt the overall thrust of his account." the second path to a conviction relies circumstantial evidence. ininference in common sense, perfectly appropriate grounds upon which jurors can render a verdict. plenty of reason even apart from the...
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michael cohen told the truth. >> we're going to be talking to michael cohen. i'm told i have to let you go. you have a show or something to prep for. >> not only a show but if you keep it locked as i hope you do for your show, at 6:00 p.m., the attorney general is expected to give remarks and it's going to be interesting. a long road. she won. there have been people who have fought donald trump and run into more roadblocks for whatever reason hernd her team have won and we're going to carry that live. >> what do you think we'll hear from her? >> she's been careful and limited in her approach and hasn't done a ton of interviews. i would her to remind everyone what a hard road it was, how many steps there were, why these take so long and really explain, in part, the value to the people of new york who she serves. this has many national prepercussions but she's the top law enforcement attorney general of new york so she's going to explain i'm protecting, she's protecting the way that things run here so there can be honest business and people can go back to work a
michael cohen told the truth. >> we're going to be talking to michael cohen. i'm told i have to let you go. you have a show or something to prep for. >> not only a show but if you keep it locked as i hope you do for your show, at 6:00 p.m., the attorney general is expected to give remarks and it's going to be interesting. a long road. she won. there have been people who have fought donald trump and run into more roadblocks for whatever reason hernd her team have won and we're going...
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it's much larger than just michael cohen's role in this. there were other people and david pecker agreed he was going to be the eyes and ears of the campaign. anything incoming to the national inquirer would be relayed to michael cohen and donald trump. that's going to be a big piece of this case as we move forward. >> remind me the role that hope hix played. >> back in 2016, she was one of donald trump's closest advisers, and also in 2016 when he was run ing and i i would need to get ahold of him. hope hix was always the go between. she was in most meetings. so she's going to have seen some of this. i think will testify to what she sw. she's going to have been in the room during some of of this. >> my brain has been forced to compartmentalize. hope hix's text after january 6th were made public. she bemoans they are all trying to move on with their life because trump lost. they are going to be viewed as terrorists. there's a sliver of my brain that thinks some of theme peas are going to be witnesses in a criminal trial about trump's payment
it's much larger than just michael cohen's role in this. there were other people and david pecker agreed he was going to be the eyes and ears of the campaign. anything incoming to the national inquirer would be relayed to michael cohen and donald trump. that's going to be a big piece of this case as we move forward. >> remind me the role that hope hix played. >> back in 2016, she was one of donald trump's closest advisers, and also in 2016 when he was run ing and i i would need to...
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we never heard of michael cohen. he delivered michael cohen. we never heard of the -- none of them. so are you telling me the deep state knew ten years ago you were going to be running for president and planted michael cohen or planted the porn star there no jury is going to believe that. these are your people. these are the people that you dealt with. how do you make a victim out of you and michael cohen went to jail? if you're saying he only lied to get something done, why did he do two years in jail? it's hard for him to sell this one. these are your buddies. these are ladies you knew and you have to sit there eight hours and you may get an hour for lunch and you can't orchestrate a rebellion outside because you're in there for the first time with somebody saying, sit in your seat. >> it's amazing. we really can't emphasize enough. we have never done this before as a country. how long do you think jury selection takes? >> that's such a great question. that's the question on everybody's mind. i think it's at least going to take two weeks. i think we're also running into the passov
we never heard of michael cohen. he delivered michael cohen. we never heard of the -- none of them. so are you telling me the deep state knew ten years ago you were going to be running for president and planted michael cohen or planted the porn star there no jury is going to believe that. these are your people. these are the people that you dealt with. how do you make a victim out of you and michael cohen went to jail? if you're saying he only lied to get something done, why did he do two years...
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and of course by the gentleman you just saw, witness michael cohen. prosecutors say trump's motion to prevent cohen from testifying, quote, reads more like a press release than a legal filing. meanwhile, the ex-president filed yet another motion today as he lashes out at the case that bragg is building of election interference at its heart. his plans to use the infamous "access hollywood" tape as evidence and bragg's request for a gag order to protect witnesses, jurors, and the integrity of the case from trump's inflammatory rhetoric which prosecutors have laid out as well as the death threats that immediately follow from his most extreme supporters. or trump's alternate reality, what he calls, quote, supposed -- supposed threats and
and of course by the gentleman you just saw, witness michael cohen. prosecutors say trump's motion to prevent cohen from testifying, quote, reads more like a press release than a legal filing. meanwhile, the ex-president filed yet another motion today as he lashes out at the case that bragg is building of election interference at its heart. his plans to use the infamous "access hollywood" tape as evidence and bragg's request for a gag order to protect witnesses, jurors, and the...
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he won't stop with michael cohen. he's going to make people involved in that trial, whether he's exonerated or not, he's going to make them feel like they will pay for having been involved. that's deeply chilling. >> it seems like there is everything in our system is designed to protect donald trump's rights. he is innocent until proven guilty. and donald trump seems hell bent on proinvestigatoring a system that's structured to protect him. >> yeah, it does feel a little bit distorted, doesn't it? i hear from a lot of people how can there be all these delays, how can he get all these breaks and benefits. and the system is designed to ensure that defendants get a lot of life. they often say to ensure that it's better than tep people guilty go free than one innocent people be convicted. there's a lot of lights and yet as yo say, we see donald trump attacking that very system that has all of those wfts for hill. you do see repeatedly judges and others bend over backwards despite his attacks on them to protect the system.
he won't stop with michael cohen. he's going to make people involved in that trial, whether he's exonerated or not, he's going to make them feel like they will pay for having been involved. that's deeply chilling. >> it seems like there is everything in our system is designed to protect donald trump's rights. he is innocent until proven guilty. and donald trump seems hell bent on proinvestigatoring a system that's structured to protect him. >> yeah, it does feel a little bit...
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but michael cohen went to jail. michael chen doesn't benefit unless somebody else is staying quiet. it makes it clear why he's sow dangerous to donald trump, andrew weissmann. >> what you just said is exactly what you're going to hear in the opening and the closing from the experienced prosecutors trying this case who are the same team basically that tried the trump organization case where they got a conviction. i would add to your litany that when the defense says that michael cohen committed perjury by lying to congress, the prosecutor's going to say, yes, who did he do that for? he was lying about the moscow tower not for himself but for the then-president. so it's very easy to sort of set him up as somebody who committed his crimes, but for the defendant who's sitting right in front of them. i would just like to point out something about the motion to carry on something that lisa said which is there's something sort of very interesting -- the application to preclude michael cohen from testifying is a dead loser, and the defense team which is made up of very good lawyers, susan n
but michael cohen went to jail. michael chen doesn't benefit unless somebody else is staying quiet. it makes it clear why he's sow dangerous to donald trump, andrew weissmann. >> what you just said is exactly what you're going to hear in the opening and the closing from the experienced prosecutors trying this case who are the same team basically that tried the trump organization case where they got a conviction. i would add to your litany that when the defense says that michael cohen...
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but think michael cohen is going to have the receipts. i doubt it was like michael cohen just personal generosity on his own pulled out -- that got him to take out a home equity loan of $130,000 against his house and in order to pay stormy daniels. i mean, there is no allegation that cohen owed any money to stormy daniels or anything like that. he was obviously doing it for donald trump. now, i guess, you could say, well he just went rogue and did all of this on his own and maybe that will be an argument of the defense. but i think it is tough. and i think cohen's testimony ultimately is going to come down to him saying, donald trump is a cheater. not just a cheater in terms of family stuff, but a cheater on the 2016 election. and the narrative so far has allowed the lurid sex stuff to overcome what the case is really about. the case is really about us having a set of campaign finance laws that are designed to ensure transparency so the american public knows where money is coming from when it is flowing into an election. and here what hap
but think michael cohen is going to have the receipts. i doubt it was like michael cohen just personal generosity on his own pulled out -- that got him to take out a home equity loan of $130,000 against his house and in order to pay stormy daniels. i mean, there is no allegation that cohen owed any money to stormy daniels or anything like that. he was obviously doing it for donald trump. now, i guess, you could say, well he just went rogue and did all of this on his own and maybe that will be...
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cohen and michael cohen was the perfect tour guide. he paid stormy daniels if the nirs place. by the summer 2022, bragg was confident he could convince a court that these misdemeanor should be elevated to felonies and added prosecutors and the zombie case survived and i think the doj's decision not to return to this when it had a new attorney general, also, and this is just a theory, had something to do with the sorts nature of it. but if you're telling a story to a jury and anyone on jury duty knows you don't to pick the degree of sortedness and some degree are and a porn star was paid to keep a secret. and someone had sex with a porn star and became president because it became secret and that someone isn't michael cohen. the simplicity of the part of the story that bragg is going to have an opportunity to tell to a jury, cannot be overstated. >> yeah, i think that is right. and certainly i don't know the reason that the justice department decided ultimately not to pursue this case. but i think a big part of it is, when you think abou
cohen and michael cohen was the perfect tour guide. he paid stormy daniels if the nirs place. by the summer 2022, bragg was confident he could convince a court that these misdemeanor should be elevated to felonies and added prosecutors and the zombie case survived and i think the doj's decision not to return to this when it had a new attorney general, also, and this is just a theory, had something to do with the sorts nature of it. but if you're telling a story to a jury and anyone on jury duty...
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cohen. at stake in today's hearing, whether trump would be able to delay accountability in this case as well as he hassaged to do in the federal documents case, but the judge did not buy what team trump was selling. the judge accusing trump's defense lawyers in bringing up the issue of delay in getting documents only to derail the trial. the judge asking why the attorneys didn't mention the issue in february. the judge said this, quote, why didn't you bring any of this to my attention? why didn't you tell the court or anyone in the courtroom at the time that you had made this request? that it was taking you a little longer than expected. also, quote, brought up todd blanche's past experience -- st - throughout this hearing, the judge tore into trump's attorneys. "washington post" says merchan told blanche the latest dispute read quote, a pattern where i read certain information, and then i hear your interpretation of that and it's different than mine. far from misconduct involving potential
cohen. at stake in today's hearing, whether trump would be able to delay accountability in this case as well as he hassaged to do in the federal documents case, but the judge did not buy what team trump was selling. the judge accusing trump's defense lawyers in bringing up the issue of delay in getting documents only to derail the trial. the judge asking why the attorneys didn't mention the issue in february. the judge said this, quote, why didn't you bring any of this to my attention? why...
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cohen, right, but the smoking gun who is going to be michael cohen is the guy who knows if donald trump said to him, we got to pay her because i don't want the voter or electorate to ever know. he is a problematic star witness but the paper trail, the papers, right, the documents, the signed checks, the invoices, all of those things are what are ultimately going to tell the story and convince this jury as to whether or not they believe donald trump is guilty or not and that is why yesterday's testimony was so stunning. i will say, the end of the direct from hoffinger in which she brought up that truth social tweet from donald trump in which he said i never met this woman. we were never together. who is this crazy person? after all of that detailed testimony completely contradicting all of what stormy daniels had just detailed and it was this really, i think, at least for the prosecution powerful closer before they moved to cross. >> kate, there's always sort of a debate about whether his lawyers are lawyering or sort of talent managers in their own right and it was clear yesterday when
cohen, right, but the smoking gun who is going to be michael cohen is the guy who knows if donald trump said to him, we got to pay her because i don't want the voter or electorate to ever know. he is a problematic star witness but the paper trail, the papers, right, the documents, the signed checks, the invoices, all of those things are what are ultimately going to tell the story and convince this jury as to whether or not they believe donald trump is guilty or not and that is why yesterday's...
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some will have a lot of baggage like michael cohen. you look for, what are the tent poles of hard evidence? that paralegal is going to take the stand and talk about phone records. that's been alluded to about certain key times. you build a time line of when things happened. it can be so devastating, both in terms of just what happened when, because you -- those records don't lie. you can really place certain things in chronological order. you can obviously show that somebody's implicated. if you notice at the outset of david pecker's testimony, he was asked about his telephone numbers. they want to link up to the records they have. on october 26, just before the election, the prosecutor referenced in his opening two telephone calls between michael cohen and donald trump. right after that, michael cohen creates essential consulting, the vehicle used to pay stormy daniels. there will be a lot of pieces like that. then there are witnesses like hope hicks, where you think -- we think we know the whole story. that is somebody, like david pe
some will have a lot of baggage like michael cohen. you look for, what are the tent poles of hard evidence? that paralegal is going to take the stand and talk about phone records. that's been alluded to about certain key times. you build a time line of when things happened. it can be so devastating, both in terms of just what happened when, because you -- those records don't lie. you can really place certain things in chronological order. you can obviously show that somebody's implicated. if...
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michael cohen tells david pecker, go to the u.p.s. store and download signals. they were bad at the criminal element of the hush money scheme. >> the defense has to argue the following. when donald trump is signing those checks month after month, and there's the invoice there that he did not look at the invoice and he just signed the checks without caring at all -- >> for the first time. >> yeah. >> exactly. just was going ahead and paying for what legal fees that were not legal fees and paying twice as much than he should have been paying, even though, by the way, he has said he paid for reimbursements so he wouldn't be -- it doesn't make any sense. and what possible motive would allen have or michael have to lie to him? in other words, they would be fired for that. what would be the reason? he is now the president of the united states. there would be zero reason. and we know that, in fact, donald trump learns of the, if you didn't know at the time, we know he learned from hope hicks that he knew after the fact. and he did not have a reaction of, i cannot belie
michael cohen tells david pecker, go to the u.p.s. store and download signals. they were bad at the criminal element of the hush money scheme. >> the defense has to argue the following. when donald trump is signing those checks month after month, and there's the invoice there that he did not look at the invoice and he just signed the checks without caring at all -- >> for the first time. >> yeah. >> exactly. just was going ahead and paying for what legal fees that were...
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one of the keys witnesses in that fraud trial, michael cohen will still le here. had cities shocks us, the former president calling the violence as patriots, who they're promising to free on day one if elected. we'll look at the ex-president's continued effort to normalize political violence. >>> and never-trump republicans are adding mike pence for former white house officials who say donald trump could be kept far away from 1600 pennsylvania avenue. all of those stories and more when "deadline: white house" continues, after this. e when "deadline: white house" continues, after this. a treatmr your chronic migraine - 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting 4 hours or more - can be overwhelming. so, ask your doctor about botox®. botox® prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine before they even start. it's the #1 prescribed branded chronic migraine treatment. so far, more than 5 million botox® treatments have been given to over eight hundred and fifty thousand chronic migraine patients. effects of botox® may spread hours to weeks after injection
one of the keys witnesses in that fraud trial, michael cohen will still le here. had cities shocks us, the former president calling the violence as patriots, who they're promising to free on day one if elected. we'll look at the ex-president's continued effort to normalize political violence. >>> and never-trump republicans are adding mike pence for former white house officials who say donald trump could be kept far away from 1600 pennsylvania avenue. all of those stories and more when...
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michael cohen is on tv talking about being anxious and nervous. hope hicks is on the list, never been on the list before, david pecker, long-time friend, hasn't spoken in a forum this publicly. he was an accomplice. he had some limited immunity when sdny looked at these facts. what is your sense of what is possible in terms of trump and his allies targeting these witnesses? >> it seems like a lot of it could be soft intimidation. i've talked to michael cohen, a lot of us have, about how concerned he is about his safety. i've talked to him, it's real for him. they're not providing him any help in terms of extra security or things like that, and when he walks down the street, somebody comes up to him, he doesn't know how that's going to go, and i think that part of it isn't just that somebody's threatening you, it's the seed that they plant that gets you worried and you're always looking over your shoulder. i think that stormy daniels and michael cohen come to mind in particular, about two people that have been targeted and there's hate sent to them
michael cohen is on tv talking about being anxious and nervous. hope hicks is on the list, never been on the list before, david pecker, long-time friend, hasn't spoken in a forum this publicly. he was an accomplice. he had some limited immunity when sdny looked at these facts. what is your sense of what is possible in terms of trump and his allies targeting these witnesses? >> it seems like a lot of it could be soft intimidation. i've talked to michael cohen, a lot of us have, about how...
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there's a recording that michael cohen made of donald trump telling him to go get allen weisselberg, the former cfo, to get a payment in order. there's evidence here, but it's still a very high bar. i have always thought this is one of the weaker cases that have come to trump's doorstep. but having said that, i don't think donald trump wants to be on trial again anywhere. he tried to make the last two with e. jean carroll and the new york a.g.'s case show trials for him to court his base and he got disastrous financial results. i don't know that he wants to go into another courtroom where he's going to be under oath. he's a horrible witness if he testifies. he lies. he exaggerates, he doesn't stay on script. he's a lawyer's worst nightmare on a witness stand. so i don't think he wants to do this, but he may have no choice. >> it strikes me, david jolly, you heard the former president on the trail referring to all of these cases, the georgia case, the new york case as local cases, as though they don't have national implications, when of course, when anything tied to trump has national
there's a recording that michael cohen made of donald trump telling him to go get allen weisselberg, the former cfo, to get a payment in order. there's evidence here, but it's still a very high bar. i have always thought this is one of the weaker cases that have come to trump's doorstep. but having said that, i don't think donald trump wants to be on trial again anywhere. he tried to make the last two with e. jean carroll and the new york a.g.'s case show trials for him to court his base and he...
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but michael cohen is a significant witness here. i will caution to say that that's based on what we know right now. we don't know what documentary evidence or other evidence the da has up his sleeve. and i expect that is much more than we understand presently. a good prosecutor does not lay all the cards on the table. alvin bragg has shown himself to be a savvier prosecutor that be many people thought. >> given that series of developments that you just walked us through, do you have a sense of how the strategy on the part of either team have evolved? there's a question about michael cohen's credibility. it's not the same question it once was. there was a question about case law and the legal framework. we have some insights into that. does any of that change the way that they approach this case moving forward? >> yes and no. i don't think it changesforward? >> yes and no. putting aside the fact that the justice saw him as a credible witness not with standing a prior purgery conviction and allegations that he purgered himself in the
but michael cohen is a significant witness here. i will caution to say that that's based on what we know right now. we don't know what documentary evidence or other evidence the da has up his sleeve. and i expect that is much more than we understand presently. a good prosecutor does not lay all the cards on the table. alvin bragg has shown himself to be a savvier prosecutor that be many people thought. >> given that series of developments that you just walked us through, do you have a...
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it is not just because of michael cohen. it is not just because of what trump said about one of the d.a. lawyers yesterday. trump took on judge's own daughter today. while she's not covered by this gag order and i agree that the lawyers in this case is going to be very good. i keep jokingly call it the battle of the susans, in the d.a. office, and i still ask myself who would take this case. who could take a case for someone in their social media communications threatens the daughter of a judge because of some loose association she has with the political party that you're opposing. that, to me, is a person that, well, trump is going to get great corruption, i don't know that i would make that same decision and certainly he has great lawyers here. but i keep struggling with who would -- >> the conduct. >> who would do that when your client is out there, not just attacking witnesses, not just attacking lawyers, but attacking the judge's own kid. these people have kids too. >> it is how he rolls. thank you for being here with u
it is not just because of michael cohen. it is not just because of what trump said about one of the d.a. lawyers yesterday. trump took on judge's own daughter today. while she's not covered by this gag order and i agree that the lawyers in this case is going to be very good. i keep jokingly call it the battle of the susans, in the d.a. office, and i still ask myself who would take this case. who could take a case for someone in their social media communications threatens the daughter of a judge...
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there is no valid presidential immunity defense as applied to trump's tweets about michael cohen, for example. in fact, the entire case is about personal acts. things that donald trump did to disguise the fact that he had engaged in campaign finance violations with michael cohen and others including the folks at the "national enquirer." there is nothing official about that. when you are acting in your capacity as a candidate and thereafter to cover up what you did as a candidate, that's inherently not official. and yet they are making this horribly specious argument and at the same time telling judge aileen cannon in florida that they need more time in her case. why? because they're going to trial on march 25th as they attempt to adjourn it. they are playing judges off of each other with a sort of casualness that's almost breathtaking. >> i guess, andrew, i've stopped asking why they do it because it's clear that it's working. will this work? >> i agree with you, this is one where -- you know, as defense counsel if there's like a 1% chance that something might work, assuming that you
there is no valid presidential immunity defense as applied to trump's tweets about michael cohen, for example. in fact, the entire case is about personal acts. things that donald trump did to disguise the fact that he had engaged in campaign finance violations with michael cohen and others including the folks at the "national enquirer." there is nothing official about that. when you are acting in your capacity as a candidate and thereafter to cover up what you did as a candidate,...
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>> so, with respect to michael cohen, they actually brought the case and he pleaded guilty. i actually know a lot about that, because that was referred to them by the mueller investigation, because it was -- you know, we had this narrow remit. and when this came up, we split off this part of the michael cohen case, and they successfully brought it, but then they stopped. so, that is where the manhattan district attorney's office, to their credit, both to the d.a. vance and now to d.a. bragg, they both have been tenaciously pursuing this. i just wanted to say, you know, some of your viewers might be saying, what do those quotes, what are those packages that nicole read, what is it, frugality and, sort of being hands-on, what does that have to do with this case? why are they going to seek to read those passages? this is why. and they're really good lawyers on both sides in this case. what the prosecution is going to say is, this isn't some executive. donald trump was not some senior executive who didn't know what was going on and the details. this wasn't some tiny bit of money
>> so, with respect to michael cohen, they actually brought the case and he pleaded guilty. i actually know a lot about that, because that was referred to them by the mueller investigation, because it was -- you know, we had this narrow remit. and when this came up, we split off this part of the michael cohen case, and they successfully brought it, but then they stopped. so, that is where the manhattan district attorney's office, to their credit, both to the d.a. vance and now to d.a....