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maybe if you are cynical and think okay, maybe samuel alito and thomas are going to be outliers. but, the fact that it looks like there's at least four, it's going to be, to me, it looks like 5-4, one way or the other on a case that i agree with neil is so off the charts tells you how inured we are to trump overtaking what this country is supposed to stand for. >> what i thought i was counting was a majority, clear majority saying, no, there is absolutely no such thing as absolute immunity, absolutely no such thing. i don't know what neil gorsuch was getting at at certain spots there, where he was saying things like, well, you know, if you, samuel alito said if you do that, order seal team six, you don't have to worry about that because seal team six won't obey the order to assassinate hillary clinton. and then neil gorsuch was saying, made a very clear point to say, to trumps lawyer, so there's absolutely no doubt that subordinates of the president can be prosecuted for exactly the thing you are saying the president cannot be prosecuted for and trumps lawyer said that's right, i
maybe if you are cynical and think okay, maybe samuel alito and thomas are going to be outliers. but, the fact that it looks like there's at least four, it's going to be, to me, it looks like 5-4, one way or the other on a case that i agree with neil is so off the charts tells you how inured we are to trump overtaking what this country is supposed to stand for. >> what i thought i was counting was a majority, clear majority saying, no, there is absolutely no such thing as absolute...
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she seemed to have some stepback from those asserted by justice alito. the big wild card is where the chief justice is. it would be unlikely he would want to be his legacy to giving donald trump a path to forgiveness for a coup, he was the most difficult justice to read. >> they had a discussion about the court ruling. it has to have some better limiting principle. i for one couldn't quite tell where that takes him and what that meant. joyce and chay on the big historic supreme court day, thanks to both of you. we have more special guests coming up. we heard a lot of talk about assassination. the former cia chief is with me to separate fact from fiction. later, douglas brinkley on an historic night. stay with us. th e*trade from morgan stanley, we're ready for whatever gets served up. dude, you gotta work on your trash talk. i'd rather work on saving for retirement. or college, since you like to get schooled. that's a pretty good burn, right? this is david's look of joy. and this is his john deere z530m mower. that delivers precision, speed, comfort, ♪
she seemed to have some stepback from those asserted by justice alito. the big wild card is where the chief justice is. it would be unlikely he would want to be his legacy to giving donald trump a path to forgiveness for a coup, he was the most difficult justice to read. >> they had a discussion about the court ruling. it has to have some better limiting principle. i for one couldn't quite tell where that takes him and what that meant. joyce and chay on the big historic supreme court day,...
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>> i really doubt that, justice alito. it presupposes a regime we have never had except for president nixon and as alleged in the indictment here. presidents who are conscious of being engaged in wrongdoing and try to shield themselves. no person shall be the judge in their own case. those are adequate deterrences think so that this kind of dystopian regime is not going to evolve. >> let me end with just a question about what is required for the functioning of the stable democratic society, which is something that we all want? i'm sure you would agree with me that a stable democratic society requires that a candidate who loses an election, even a close one, even a hotly contested one, leave office peacefully, if that candidate is the incumbent. >> of course. >> all right. now, if an incumbent, who loses the very close hotly contested election, knows that a real possibility after leaving office is not that the president is going to be able to go off into a peaceful retirement, but that the president may be criminally prosec
>> i really doubt that, justice alito. it presupposes a regime we have never had except for president nixon and as alleged in the indictment here. presidents who are conscious of being engaged in wrongdoing and try to shield themselves. no person shall be the judge in their own case. those are adequate deterrences think so that this kind of dystopian regime is not going to evolve. >> let me end with just a question about what is required for the functioning of the stable democratic...
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is this what he wanted when he chose samuel alito for the supreme court? or was george w. bush just playing the game of abortion politics? just like every republican did before him. the game was never to win. the game was to keep the game going. if you are antiabortion, you have to vote republican as long as they kept the game going. because they were the only ones who were at least pretending they wanted to stop it. equally, republican politicians didn't want abortion to stop, because then you wouldn't have to vote for them anymore to stop abortion. you wouldn't have to contribute money to their campaigns. you couldn't ask for a more powerful lesson in how much your vote matters, and how long your vote matters. your vote lives after you. long after you. millions of people who voted for george h.w. bush, and who therefore voted for clarence thomas to be on the supreme court to overturn roe versus wade, are now dead. millions of those voters have been dead for decades. their vote continues to live after them in the hands of clarence thomas on the united states supreme court
is this what he wanted when he chose samuel alito for the supreme court? or was george w. bush just playing the game of abortion politics? just like every republican did before him. the game was never to win. the game was to keep the game going. if you are antiabortion, you have to vote republican as long as they kept the game going. because they were the only ones who were at least pretending they wanted to stop it. equally, republican politicians didn't want abortion to stop, because then you...
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justice alito would refuse to leave office. therefore, we really have to be careful of letting, you know, overzealous, hyper partisan prosecutors beat up on them. the notion, as you heard in that quote from justice jackson, that is a scarier prospect than the stuff that we have already heard from president donald trump and we are hearing now about a next iteration of president donald trump. the notion that there is a real fear, the witch hunt, is bone- chilling and deeply surprising to those of us who are institutional us right down to the wire. >> i do not feel -- i feel a little redeemed, right? the schism between who they are and they reveal themselves to be -- and the hope that -- i guess that is it in theory. however, they are paranoid, insulated, thin-skinned, brittle partisan actors and one of them is married to a ringleader to the insurrection itself. was he there? did he have to be there? what did clarence thomas do? >> as he often does, he asked the first question. should he be there? no. what just happened to mark me
justice alito would refuse to leave office. therefore, we really have to be careful of letting, you know, overzealous, hyper partisan prosecutors beat up on them. the notion, as you heard in that quote from justice jackson, that is a scarier prospect than the stuff that we have already heard from president donald trump and we are hearing now about a next iteration of president donald trump. the notion that there is a real fear, the witch hunt, is bone- chilling and deeply surprising to those of...
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bush was a vote for samuel alito. so yes. you can and should blame donald trump, but you should have to blame the people who voted for donald trump for president in 2016 and you have to blame the voters who voted for george w. bush and the voters who voted for george w. h. bush before that. because if dukasis or gore had won, donald trump could have put three right wing judges on the supreme court and they still wouldn't have a majority. for the voters who voted for joe biden four years ago and are no longer with us because they were lost to covid or cancer or other illness their votes are going to live after them another 30 years that ketanji brown jackson will serve on the united states supreme court. your vote will live after you. it will live in the supreme court. your vote will live on in the hands of federal judges. in their 40s appointed by joe biden who will serve for another 40 years. your vote will decide what century we live in. will we live in an age of legal and constitutional enlightenment or will we live in 186
bush was a vote for samuel alito. so yes. you can and should blame donald trump, but you should have to blame the people who voted for donald trump for president in 2016 and you have to blame the voters who voted for george w. bush and the voters who voted for george w. h. bush before that. because if dukasis or gore had won, donald trump could have put three right wing judges on the supreme court and they still wouldn't have a majority. for the voters who voted for joe biden four years ago and...
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and so the methodology adopted by that man, samuel alito, on the right, with the support supreme court effectively ruled as if we are going to let the past dictate the present. in this really binding way. specifically, the white men who held power in the distant past. the man who made up the tradition of our history. this isn't some weird fluke. if the logic of dobbs at play where that states supreme court just revived a near-total abortion ban from 1864 from when lincoln was president. this is the code of laws adopted by the very first arizona territorial legislature 160 years ago. yes, territorial because arizona would not become a eight for more than 50 more years. name for judge and principal author william thompson howell, the menu see there on the left, the howell code foreman iced the laws governing all the territory. population, less than 2000. excusable homicide by misadventure, which could include a man working with an axe killed a bystander or a parent is moderately correcting his child and happens to occasion death. it contains multiple sections relating to duals, for examp
and so the methodology adopted by that man, samuel alito, on the right, with the support supreme court effectively ruled as if we are going to let the past dictate the present. in this really binding way. specifically, the white men who held power in the distant past. the man who made up the tradition of our history. this isn't some weird fluke. if the logic of dobbs at play where that states supreme court just revived a near-total abortion ban from 1864 from when lincoln was president. this is...
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that is the kind of history and tradition that samuel alito have brought back to the united states. it is the very logic of this court. it is the point of the decision in dobbs. it is the point of the arizona supreme court ruling this week. in 2024 william claude jones gets to control the body of women and girls in the state of arizona. are you tired of your hair breaking after waiting years for it to grow? new pantene with more pro-vitamins, plus biotin & collagen. repairs as well as the leading luxury bonding brand. stronger, healthier hair, without the $60 price tag. if you know, you know it's pantene. millions of children are fighting to survive due to inequality, conflict, poverty and the climate crisis. save the children® is working alongside communities to provide a better life for children. and there's a way you can help. please call or go online to give just $10 a month. only $0.33 a day. we urgently need 1000 new monthly donors in the next 30 days to help the children we support around the world. you can help provide food, medicine, care and protection, plus so much more
that is the kind of history and tradition that samuel alito have brought back to the united states. it is the very logic of this court. it is the point of the decision in dobbs. it is the point of the arizona supreme court ruling this week. in 2024 william claude jones gets to control the body of women and girls in the state of arizona. are you tired of your hair breaking after waiting years for it to grow? new pantene with more pro-vitamins, plus biotin & collagen. repairs as well as the...
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justice alito says that hypothetical is complicated biez s.e.a.l. team six has to obey the law. so that was what was alarming to me, you have the highest court in the land entertaining hypotheticals and having a serious argument that really normalizes extremism. this is how extremism manifests itself in nation states, we're going to go more and more to the extreme and ordinary institutions of justice are going to accept that. >> none of us at this table believe that they believe any of these rules apply to joe biden. i'm going to hold you until we come back on the other side of the break. they're coming right back. stay right there. more on this madness. at three in the morning. any time of the day. what people don't know is that not all dirt is the same. you need dirt with the right kind of nutrients. look at this new organic soil from miracle-gro. everybody should have it. it worked great for us. this is as good as gold in any garden. if people only knew that it really is about the dirt. you're a dirt nerd. huge dirt nerd. i'm proud of it! [ryan laughs] hi, i'm chris and i los
justice alito says that hypothetical is complicated biez s.e.a.l. team six has to obey the law. so that was what was alarming to me, you have the highest court in the land entertaining hypotheticals and having a serious argument that really normalizes extremism. this is how extremism manifests itself in nation states, we're going to go more and more to the extreme and ordinary institutions of justice are going to accept that. >> none of us at this table believe that they believe any of...
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the alito were included that thing where he kept saying i'm not talking about these facts. the good side of that coin is these facts are so bad, i can't talk about them. that's the good side of that. >> i think thomas is the exception. i think thomas thinks all presidents need absolute immunity. >> that's the great mystery. he did not recuse himself or maybe his definition of recusal is i will talk the lease. clarence thomas spoke only three times. he didn't ask a paragraph worth of questions. the only thing he raised that was outside what anyone else mentioned was an issue that was not even before the court which was the legitimacy of the appointment of jack smith. that's not even before the court. thomas asked about that so he remains the most mysterious on the court today. >> i think we overthink them. when you work for president, you know they're just guys and girls. these particular guys consume all of this. i think what was clear today, they will direct quote segments from of these programs. alito gives speeches in front of conservators and i'm sure conservatives in t
the alito were included that thing where he kept saying i'm not talking about these facts. the good side of that coin is these facts are so bad, i can't talk about them. that's the good side of that. >> i think thomas is the exception. i think thomas thinks all presidents need absolute immunity. >> that's the great mystery. he did not recuse himself or maybe his definition of recusal is i will talk the lease. clarence thomas spoke only three times. he didn't ask a paragraph worth of...
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justice alito saying he's not really talking about the particular facts of the case? >> it's unbelievable. the reason why the supreme court stepped in and delayed this was because they didn't want to talk about the specifics of the case. they would have not even reviewed the appeal, because the lower court did a really good job explaining why trump's actions on january 6th and before were not official acts. he should not be getting anywhere near immunity, but the courts said we are going to the broader principles of what constitutes official acts, and whether that would be immune. to do some hypothetical thinking. the fact is the clock is ticking. they know what they are doing. there was a case against donald trump in washington, d.c. where they delayed it to people who are on the far right, justice alito and others are ignoring what's in front of them, and instead, doing really the former president's being bidding. >> that's the scary bit, tara. i can't think of a legal analyst worth their time that has said this is not an open and shut case in terms of how clear it
justice alito saying he's not really talking about the particular facts of the case? >> it's unbelievable. the reason why the supreme court stepped in and delayed this was because they didn't want to talk about the specifics of the case. they would have not even reviewed the appeal, because the lower court did a really good job explaining why trump's actions on january 6th and before were not official acts. he should not be getting anywhere near immunity, but the courts said we are going...
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do we have to sound of justice alito and in -- making these just what i felt were very wild claims. we don't have it. i am going read it to you he says, the hospital must save lives a threat to the unborn child. it seems the meaning is the hospital must try to eliminate immediate threat to the child but performing an abortion is and at this time cal to the duty and solicitor general when i see her i am buying her a drink she says if congress had wanted to displays protens for pregnant women in danger of losing their lives or their health, it could have eee defined the status of the fetus with an emergency medical condition but that's not how they structured this and put the expand protection for the pregnant woman. justice alito is he is pudging the life and conception act from the bench. >> let's be clear for justice alito who claims textualism is the direction to go, there's no text in the united states constitution that recognizes embryos or fetuses and in fact the opposite is true. the first sentence of the 14th amend minute says citizens are people that are born. specifically.
do we have to sound of justice alito and in -- making these just what i felt were very wild claims. we don't have it. i am going read it to you he says, the hospital must save lives a threat to the unborn child. it seems the meaning is the hospital must try to eliminate immediate threat to the child but performing an abortion is and at this time cal to the duty and solicitor general when i see her i am buying her a drink she says if congress had wanted to displays protens for pregnant women in...
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i want you to hear to samuel alito and his indignation, talking about your state. here he is. >> so we have this phrase, emergency medical condition, and that provision. and then under --, the term emergency medical condition is defined to include a condition that placed the health of the woman's unborn child in serious jeopardy. so, in that situation, the hospital must stabilize the threat to the unborn child. and it seems that the plan -- plain meaning is that the hospital must try to eliminate any immediate threat to the child. performing an abortion is antithetical to that duty. -- >> you go so far as to say that the statute is clear in your favor. i don't know how you can say that in light of the provisions i have just read to you. >> i know how i feel about listening to him or 10 he knows more than a doctor about treating a patient. how do you feel listening to him talk like that, as if he knows better how to treat a fetal emergency than you do? >> it is disheartening. certainly, as a maternity fetal medicine physician, it is my job and goal to have the best
i want you to hear to samuel alito and his indignation, talking about your state. here he is. >> so we have this phrase, emergency medical condition, and that provision. and then under --, the term emergency medical condition is defined to include a condition that placed the health of the woman's unborn child in serious jeopardy. so, in that situation, the hospital must stabilize the threat to the unborn child. and it seems that the plan -- plain meaning is that the hospital must try to...
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i've not been a huge fan of justice alito and justice thomas. but i thought even they can't stomach this. it turns out, i was wrong. >> can i say, you are always going to be wrong if you think they're not going to disappoint you and break your democracy-loving heart? ian, we will keep you around. on what this court and what this judge and what these two legal teams are achieving, how important is that in a democracy? >> i think it goes to the point andrew was making, that they are showing that this person who has tried to portray himself as some superhuman, superhero for his followers is human, is a citizen. i think probably one of the most devastating things about this trial, however it turns out, is that trump looks weak. the numerous times he has dozed off in the courtroom -- it's projection. his claims president biden doesn't have the stamina to do the job. it's trump who is falling asleep. it's trump who looks week. the thing that ultimately undoes strongmen is when the emperor is exposed as having no clothes. there's a little of that going
i've not been a huge fan of justice alito and justice thomas. but i thought even they can't stomach this. it turns out, i was wrong. >> can i say, you are always going to be wrong if you think they're not going to disappoint you and break your democracy-loving heart? ian, we will keep you around. on what this court and what this judge and what these two legal teams are achieving, how important is that in a democracy? >> i think it goes to the point andrew was making, that they are...
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justice brett kavanaugh and samuel alito saying prosecutors, judges, grand juries right at home in a trump social media feed about how there is not really a rule of law in this country and what looks like our supposed legal system is really just corrupt people out to get donald trump. the conservative justices today were absolutely and consistently unwilling to discuss trump's alleged crimes as laid out in the indictment that led to this case. to the point that it became almost a comedic gymnastic effort at avoidance between justice alito and the lawyer for special counsel jack smith. >> if the court has concerns about the robustness of it, i would suggest looking at the charges in this case. >> well i'm going to talk about this in the abstract. >> conspiracies to defraud the united states with respect to one of the most important functions, namely the certification of the next president. >> well i don't want to dispute that particular application of that, of 371 conspiracy to defraud the united states. >> it is difficult to think of a more critical function than the certification of
justice brett kavanaugh and samuel alito saying prosecutors, judges, grand juries right at home in a trump social media feed about how there is not really a rule of law in this country and what looks like our supposed legal system is really just corrupt people out to get donald trump. the conservative justices today were absolutely and consistently unwilling to discuss trump's alleged crimes as laid out in the indictment that led to this case. to the point that it became almost a comedic...
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paragraphs from all of our scripts i have heard in alito's rants. they are bound to trump in their feelings of being persecuted to a person. so, in trump's immunity claim which has myriad legal implications and layers to it, they found common cause with the feeling of persecution and that is what they spoke to today. that is where he found a receptive audience. what is amazing to me is that federal judge carter in california was like, the farther we get, the more murky it gets. but in the immediate aftermath, trump clearly committed the crimes and federal judges said more likely than not he committed felonies. he and that eastman guy and the further we get the more the people at the highest levels of this branch, everyone said the courts held. i think after today we have to get rid of that notion that the courts held and after today we have to get rid of the notion that there is some complicated legal theory. they feel him and feel persecuted like he does. >> i thought it was a very dark day for the supreme court. i don't think the conservative just
paragraphs from all of our scripts i have heard in alito's rants. they are bound to trump in their feelings of being persecuted to a person. so, in trump's immunity claim which has myriad legal implications and layers to it, they found common cause with the feeling of persecution and that is what they spoke to today. that is where he found a receptive audience. what is amazing to me is that federal judge carter in california was like, the farther we get, the more murky it gets. but in the...
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i think when you are looking at the questions that were asked by gorsuch as well as alito, it's very clear there is clearly a faction on the bench that wants to create a space that allows this argument to breathe further or at least them to kick it back down and allow that to be dealt with at a lower court. if you are looking in other directions, there are clearly justices like jackson who want to try and make this as narrow as possible. this was lawyering at the highest of levels. i want to remind everyone out there, the supreme court is not right because -- they are not last because they are always right. they are right because they're always last. what i mean by that is, whatever results from this is something that we will all have to live with. it should be no indication that this was the perfect decision. it's going to be interesting to see how it shapes up. >> a magistrate said that. you are asking us to decide things for the ages. i think it's always interesting to bring it back to that. these decisions will have eternal repercussions. >> right. i kept wanting to pan out. i wi
i think when you are looking at the questions that were asked by gorsuch as well as alito, it's very clear there is clearly a faction on the bench that wants to create a space that allows this argument to breathe further or at least them to kick it back down and allow that to be dealt with at a lower court. if you are looking in other directions, there are clearly justices like jackson who want to try and make this as narrow as possible. this was lawyering at the highest of levels. i want to...
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child under federal law and i want to play alito here talking about how the hospital will stabilize the threat to the unborn child, take a listen >> in a hospital must stabilize the threat to the unborn child. and it seems that the plain meaning is at the hospital must try to eliminate any immediate threat to the child, performing an abortion is antithetical to that duty. >> first of all, there is no child here, there is a fetus and that should be clear. but what you hear as a medical practitioner when you hear the justice saying that? >> so he is put in a situation that doesn't exist. there is no saving the fetus without saving the mother and what he is creating is this idea that there is a conflict between the life of the mother and whatever emergency this fetus is having, the only way to save that fetus, to deliver that baby eventually, to have a full healthy pregnancy, is to say that mother point there is no conflict and he is making it up. >> and to the extent that there is, to the extent that there is a conflict or they said that there is a situation in which you have to end t
child under federal law and i want to play alito here talking about how the hospital will stabilize the threat to the unborn child, take a listen >> in a hospital must stabilize the threat to the unborn child. and it seems that the plain meaning is at the hospital must try to eliminate any immediate threat to the child, performing an abortion is antithetical to that duty. >> first of all, there is no child here, there is a fetus and that should be clear. but what you hear as a...
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thomas alito has staked out a strong pro trump position. gorsuch in between. but for roberts he probably recognizes at this point what the rolling stone article pointed out. team trump has pulled off the heist. the supreme court has slow walked this case as compared to the ballots removal case from earlier this term. the nixon cases in the 1970s during water gate. they ensured this trial will not happen before november before election day. and you know, when john roberts is embarrassed by a case, sometimes he goes quiet. he doesn't say anything. so one thing i will be looking to is whether the chief justice mostly keeps his mouth shut or whether he trying to direct arguments toward some kind of consensus position. >> i know the supreme court is quote unquote inpenetrable and don't pay attention to press. and are not victim to whatever the political climate of the day is. a will inform the time line which they rule. do you think they will expedite their ruling at all? >> u do not and i will tell you why. the rule at the supreme court is as long as a dissenter i
thomas alito has staked out a strong pro trump position. gorsuch in between. but for roberts he probably recognizes at this point what the rolling stone article pointed out. team trump has pulled off the heist. the supreme court has slow walked this case as compared to the ballots removal case from earlier this term. the nixon cases in the 1970s during water gate. they ensured this trial will not happen before november before election day. and you know, when john roberts is embarrassed by a...
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lawyer conceded up front , as to why that was ever on the table, it was very confusing, but justice alito proposed this alternative test, and the conversation really went far afield. it was a messy argument. >> peer, take a listen to a jamie raskin had to say on how things went at the supreme court, today. >> there are politicians were not even subject to popular election, unlike me. they should move the supreme court over to the rnc headquarters, because they are acting like a bunch of partisan operatives. >> this is not the first time we've heard criticism that the highest court in the land has been hyper politicized, considering the substance of the argument today, does this particular case kind of raise even more questions about the credibility of scotus? >> it will certainly create a lot of concern and conversation about and will create criticism like the kind you saw from congressman raskin. going back, when the supreme court was presented with the question of whether richard nixon could withhold tapes in the watergate special prosecution, the chief justice, it was important enough
lawyer conceded up front , as to why that was ever on the table, it was very confusing, but justice alito proposed this alternative test, and the conversation really went far afield. it was a messy argument. >> peer, take a listen to a jamie raskin had to say on how things went at the supreme court, today. >> there are politicians were not even subject to popular election, unlike me. they should move the supreme court over to the rnc headquarters, because they are acting like a...
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even more incredibly, justice samuel alito seem to entertain this idea as considering it a prominent provision. while clarence thomas asked the lawyer for mifepristone how she would respond to the argument that mailing the product would violate the comstock ask. for its part, the biden administration argues the statute is not relevant to the current dispute over mifepristone as it is not the fda' s job to interpret and enforce a criminal statute. it is worth taking a moment to consider how backwards and dangerous it is that this argument is taking place on the floor of the supreme court. again, this is a chastity law that has been dormant for over a century. the version of america to which this law belongs in the country that did not grant the basic rights of citizenship to women are most people of color. my next guest, democratic senator tina smith is leading efforts to repeal the comstock act writing in the "the new york times", " here is the bottom line . we cannot let anyone, not the supreme court, not donald trump and certainly, not a random busybody from the 19th century take a
even more incredibly, justice samuel alito seem to entertain this idea as considering it a prominent provision. while clarence thomas asked the lawyer for mifepristone how she would respond to the argument that mailing the product would violate the comstock ask. for its part, the biden administration argues the statute is not relevant to the current dispute over mifepristone as it is not the fda' s job to interpret and enforce a criminal statute. it is worth taking a moment to consider how...
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i think thomas and samuel alito have staked out a strong program position, neil gorsuch is somewhere in between. i think that for chief justice roberts especially, he probably recognizes at this point what that article pointed out, which is that team trump has pulled off the heist. the supreme court has slow walk to this case as compared to the ballot removal case from earlier this term, the nixon cases in the 1970s during watergate. they have in short, i think, that this trial will not happen before november, before election day. and, you know, when john roberts is embarrassed by a case for sometimes he goes quiet, he doesn't say anything. one thing i will be looking to is whether the chief justice mostly keeps his mouth shut or whether he tries to direct arguments toward some kind of consensus position. >> i know that this supreme court is "impenetrable and they don't pay attention to press." and they are not victim to whatever the political climate of the day is. but, do you think the widespread public outcry over the slow pace with which they have taken this up, the fact they too
i think thomas and samuel alito have staked out a strong program position, neil gorsuch is somewhere in between. i think that for chief justice roberts especially, he probably recognizes at this point what that article pointed out, which is that team trump has pulled off the heist. the supreme court has slow walk to this case as compared to the ballot removal case from earlier this term, the nixon cases in the 1970s during watergate. they have in short, i think, that this trial will not happen...
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that that is something in the minds of thomas, alito, and others. do you think that is how far this court has been adulterated? that we can say conservatives are not only considering politics here, they are behaving in an expressly political way for the gain of one party. >> i don't think we can rule out that possibility. if you compare the court treatment of the trump immunity case to previous cases, it looks like they are doing things differently here and in ways that advantage donald trump. in the disqualification case, for example, they decided to hear that case quickly and schedule oral arguments immediately and ensure a decision before the primary election. here, by contrast, they decided to take the case and schedule it for argument almost two months after they decided to hear it and it does not look like they're going to act in a similarly expeditious way, when acting in an expeditious way is contrary to donald trump's interest. compare the immunity case to the case they heard before, which was the emergency medical abortion case. in that ca
that that is something in the minds of thomas, alito, and others. do you think that is how far this court has been adulterated? that we can say conservatives are not only considering politics here, they are behaving in an expressly political way for the gain of one party. >> i don't think we can rule out that possibility. if you compare the court treatment of the trump immunity case to previous cases, it looks like they are doing things differently here and in ways that advantage donald...
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i also know just in the last few seconds, listening to justice alito, a conservative justice, he was really pressuring on this idea of whether or not this idaho law conflicts with federal law and he was in some ways leaning toward dealing with idaho law as being the superseding here. just listening to these arguments, it sounds as though the court is leaning toward saying this federal law, that it supersedes idaho law. this is a court, you can't predict what it will decide. most of the justices, other than alito, that i've been hearing, have been zeroing in on this idea that emergency care to stabilize a mother, if it requires an abortion, that that likely is something that should be allowed. >> and dr. patel, this law only provides -- i'm digging into it, only provides an exception for the life of the mother. but the federal government's position is that in an emergency room, you got to provide care that preserves the health of a patient. how is that different? >> well, that's the point, i think, jose, they're trying to keep with imtalia, federal law, where we have an obligation if
i also know just in the last few seconds, listening to justice alito, a conservative justice, he was really pressuring on this idea of whether or not this idaho law conflicts with federal law and he was in some ways leaning toward dealing with idaho law as being the superseding here. just listening to these arguments, it sounds as though the court is leaning toward saying this federal law, that it supersedes idaho law. this is a court, you can't predict what it will decide. most of the...
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the skepticism wasn't shared by the men on the court, including justice alito, who authored the decision in overturning roe in the first place. >> i would think that the concept of good faith medical judgment must take into account some objective standards. but it would leave a certain amount of leeway for an individual doctor. that was how i interpreted what the state supreme court said. now, you have been presented here today with very quick summaries of cases and asked to provide a snap judgment about what would be appropriate in those particular cases. and honestly, i think you've hardly been given an opportunity to answer some of the hypotheticals, but would you agree with me that if a medical doctor who is an expert in this field were asked bang, bang, bang, what would you do in these particular circumstances which i am now going to enumerate, the doctor would say, this is not how i practice medicine. i need to know a lot more about the individual case. would you agree with that? >> absolutely. >> you could hear it there as well. joining us now from outside of the supreme court, nb
the skepticism wasn't shared by the men on the court, including justice alito, who authored the decision in overturning roe in the first place. >> i would think that the concept of good faith medical judgment must take into account some objective standards. but it would leave a certain amount of leeway for an individual doctor. that was how i interpreted what the state supreme court said. now, you have been presented here today with very quick summaries of cases and asked to provide a...
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there's constitutional rights, samuel alito questioned the solicitor general about the interests of the unborn child under federal law. i want to play samuel alito talking about how the hospital must stabilize the threat to the unborn child. take a listen. >> the hospital must stabilize the threat to the unborn child. and it seems that the plain meaning is that the hospital must try to eliminate any immediate threat to the child but performing an abortion is antithetical to that duty. >> first of all, to my mind, there is no child. there is a fetus and that should be clear. what do you hear as a medical practitioner in an emergency room when you hear the justice saying that ? >> he is creating a situation that doesn't exist. there is no saving the fetus without saving the mother. what he is creating is this idea that there is a conflict between the life of the mother and whatever emergency this fetus is having. the only way to save that fetus, to deliver the baby eventually, to have a full, healthy pregnancy is to say that mother. there is no conflict and he's making it up out of whole
there's constitutional rights, samuel alito questioned the solicitor general about the interests of the unborn child under federal law. i want to play samuel alito talking about how the hospital must stabilize the threat to the unborn child. take a listen. >> the hospital must stabilize the threat to the unborn child. and it seems that the plain meaning is that the hospital must try to eliminate any immediate threat to the child but performing an abortion is antithetical to that duty....
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and so even though justice alito did push the idea of state's rights and returning abortion decisions for the states, they can't do it if it conflicts with a federal law and emerging merely treatment and labor act says it is part of the bargain for receiving medical care funds, hospitals have to agree to comply with those rules. and those include protecting the health of people when they present in a situation where they need to be stabilized. and so idaho's law conflicts with that by criminalizing behavior when it is not necessary to save the life. and so that is the window, what does it mean to save someone's life and if it is necessary to just stabilize their health even without certainty of death, then federal law requires that. >> barb, let me ask you another question. because i think one of the issues here that i've been hearing about for these arguments today is that doctors feel under legal constraints, hallie jackson interviewed a doctor from idaho that moved to colorado because they are not even sure that they can do a d and c, routine procedures for women that aren't even i
and so even though justice alito did push the idea of state's rights and returning abortion decisions for the states, they can't do it if it conflicts with a federal law and emerging merely treatment and labor act says it is part of the bargain for receiving medical care funds, hospitals have to agree to comply with those rules. and those include protecting the health of people when they present in a situation where they need to be stabilized. and so idaho's law conflicts with that by...
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brett kavanaugh, sam alito and clarence thomas think it's unconstitutional. brett kavanaugh sounded outraged at its very existence, and that left the four women justices to clean up the mess with the great hypothetical you just played, some really searching questions from justice barrett about the line that trump's attorney was trying to draw here, but they are just four votes and at the end of the day, i think there are clearly at least five votes to prevent this trial from moving forward anytime soon. >> so, carol, part of the arguments today center on what is an official act, what is a not official act, what is core to the presidency, and what is not core to the presidency. in your coverage of january 6th, the lead up to january 6th and the aftermath of it, how did you view those arguments today? how did you hear that questioning? >> well, first i thought it was really interesting the way the very very experienced and perfectionist appellate counsel for the special counsel, mike breeben presented the way in which these things actually go down in trial. the
brett kavanaugh, sam alito and clarence thomas think it's unconstitutional. brett kavanaugh sounded outraged at its very existence, and that left the four women justices to clean up the mess with the great hypothetical you just played, some really searching questions from justice barrett about the line that trump's attorney was trying to draw here, but they are just four votes and at the end of the day, i think there are clearly at least five votes to prevent this trial from moving forward...
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what that means is it effectively gives sam alito and clarence thomas an opportunity to help run out the clock for donald trump. they might take longer than they need to in writing the dissents, drag it out into the end of june and july and in effect push this trial date back even further. there's really nothing the other justices can do about that, so i don't think we can expect a quick turn rule in this case. >> his wife was very much a big booster of the big lie. as of late thomas has been speaking from the bench more than he usually does. on something like this where he's so clearly -- well, he apparently has maybe a conflict of interest or maybe shouldn't be ruling on it at all, would you expect he would be vocal tomorrow? >> oh, absolutely. clarence thomas' super power i think is shamelessness. we saw this in the obstruction cases. clarence thomas was leading the charge arguing the obstruction charges brought against the rioter uzwuillegitimate. he was accusing the justice department in essentially in engaging in selective prosecution. he was out front and center in really crit
what that means is it effectively gives sam alito and clarence thomas an opportunity to help run out the clock for donald trump. they might take longer than they need to in writing the dissents, drag it out into the end of june and july and in effect push this trial date back even further. there's really nothing the other justices can do about that, so i don't think we can expect a quick turn rule in this case. >> his wife was very much a big booster of the big lie. as of late thomas has...
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one of the most talked about portions of the hearing thursday was justice alito's question regarding a stable democracy. let's listen to both of these. >> i'm sure you would agree with me that is stable democratic society requires that a candidate who loses on election, even a close one, even a hotly contested one, leave office peacefully if that candidate is the incumbent. >> of course. >> okay. now if an incumbent who loses a very close, hotly contested election knows that a real possibility after leaving office is not that the president is going to be able to go off into a peaceful retirement, but that the president may be criminally prosecuted by bitter political opponents, will that not lead us into a cycle that destabilizes the functioning of our country as a democracy? >> this is one of those hypotheticals that doesn't actually address what is happening here. the basis of the questioning ignores the fact that we are actually dealing with a case of the only former president in the history of this country who thwarted the peaceful transfer of power. the hypothetical is interesti
one of the most talked about portions of the hearing thursday was justice alito's question regarding a stable democracy. let's listen to both of these. >> i'm sure you would agree with me that is stable democratic society requires that a candidate who loses on election, even a close one, even a hotly contested one, leave office peacefully if that candidate is the incumbent. >> of course. >> okay. now if an incumbent who loses a very close, hotly contested election knows that a...
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what is so insane to me as you said, down to samuel alito , they keep reaching back to the 19th century before women have the right to vote to say that that's when things were great. except for article 3 when it comes to insurrection. that they carve out for trump. it feels like it deeply misogynistic way to run a country. your thoughts. >> absolutely. i think that is what you are hearing in the voices of some of the people that you just interviewed or that the show just interviewed here in arizona which is a sense of disbelief that we have in arizona that we just got dragged back to 1864. this is why i really think this is such an enormous calculation by the extremist and the legislature and by these judges in the supreme court. this is not a state that believes that we should be guided by or governed by an 1864 almost total abortion ban. this is something that women and men are taking very deeply personally. i think it is a huge miscalculation. we are going to fight it. at the end of the day i believe the people of arizona will make their voices heard in november in the form of a ball
what is so insane to me as you said, down to samuel alito , they keep reaching back to the 19th century before women have the right to vote to say that that's when things were great. except for article 3 when it comes to insurrection. that they carve out for trump. it feels like it deeply misogynistic way to run a country. your thoughts. >> absolutely. i think that is what you are hearing in the voices of some of the people that you just interviewed or that the show just interviewed here...
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you just played an excerpt of justice alito trying to set forth a hypothetical that the statute is too broad and could apply to something that i think the solicitor-general very well rebutted by saying that's not at all what happened here, this is not at all about the kind of violent attack on the capitol with the intent to obstruct the peaceful transition of power that happened here, but nevertheless cases are decided based on how the law might apply in other situations. and i think the solicitor-general went on at various points in the argument to point out the dominmous types of things would not be argued. knowing your conducts is wrong to actually disrupt, obstruct an official proceeding. but at the same time we saw other justices including justice kagen, justice sotomayor push pretty hard saying how could the clause applied here which says otherwise obstructs, influences, or impedes an official proceeding, how could that mean anything than otherwise doing it in any form. he wants it to be limited to altering records and destroying records, and those justices said that's not then s
you just played an excerpt of justice alito trying to set forth a hypothetical that the statute is too broad and could apply to something that i think the solicitor-general very well rebutted by saying that's not at all what happened here, this is not at all about the kind of violent attack on the capitol with the intent to obstruct the peaceful transition of power that happened here, but nevertheless cases are decided based on how the law might apply in other situations. and i think the...
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justice samuel alito asked the u.s. solicitor general this, quote, how can you impose restrictions on what idaho can criminalize? what idaho has done is a devastating consequences for women already. in the time since the ban went into effect, in one hospital alone, six patients were medevac'd, airlifted, that's what happens when you're in a horrific, catastrophic car accident. these women were simply pregnant and had to be airlifted out of idaho in 2024 in america. the arguments took place hours before the arizona state house voted to repeal its 160-year-old near total abortion ban. that law heads to the senate. joining our consideration, the president of reproductive freedom for all, minnie tim raju was here. she was outside the supreme court today speaking to a crowd about reproductive rights and freedom. with me at the table, former obama white house policy director, msnbc medical contributor, our dear friend vida patel. katty is still with us as well. it's incredible, incredible that this is even being debated. even
justice samuel alito asked the u.s. solicitor general this, quote, how can you impose restrictions on what idaho can criminalize? what idaho has done is a devastating consequences for women already. in the time since the ban went into effect, in one hospital alone, six patients were medevac'd, airlifted, that's what happens when you're in a horrific, catastrophic car accident. these women were simply pregnant and had to be airlifted out of idaho in 2024 in america. the arguments took place...
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is not related to the issue before them, but i thought it was amazing that justice alito actually said, isn't it true that the grand jury will indict a ham sandwich? is not known about hearing about the rights of people who are up against it with the criminal justice system. it was remarkable that he made that argument with respect to former president trump and i if you hear from at the next and we have a prisoner's rights case. we have justice kavanaugh saying i'm not really focused at the case at hand and looking more toward the future which is remarkable. we did not hear former president trump's name more but with indicators that we are likely to hear some sort of ruling that something to future prosperity that will involve the justice having to sit down with the ruling and say, this is an official act. this is more of a personal act and this we will move forward on. but all of this will happen. >> they asked what specific acts would be considered official. >> if the president decides that his rival is a corrupt person and he orders the military or orders someone to assassinate him,
is not related to the issue before them, but i thought it was amazing that justice alito actually said, isn't it true that the grand jury will indict a ham sandwich? is not known about hearing about the rights of people who are up against it with the criminal justice system. it was remarkable that he made that argument with respect to former president trump and i if you hear from at the next and we have a prisoner's rights case. we have justice kavanaugh saying i'm not really focused at the...
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. >> even if they're trying to audition for the supreme court because alito and thomas will retire if donald trump becomes president. the bribe is implied as it belongs to donald said. >> i don't see aileen cannon as a credible candidate. >> under trump? >> even trump i think would look for candidates to the supreme court that have substantial appellate experience. now, she was an appellate lawyer before a federal district court judge. if you're looking for somebody who trumps want to nominate to the supreme court, i would challenge people to look first at fifth circuit judge jim ho is likely to be trump's first nominee. they should be a lot more scared depending on their policy perspectives about a jim ho than they should be about an aileen cannon. >> jim ho of course because he weighed in on the subjects of whether or not women should be able to access mifepristone and that thing. >> weighed in on transgender care and inmate in a prison can go buy their -- can be assigned to a prison of their chosen gender, things like that. he has taken positions again and again that i think many a
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questionable ties to republican mega-donors, which includes expensive, paid luxury vacations, samuel alito's undisclosed fishing trips with gop billionaire, pulsing or, and chief justice john roberts his wife, jane roberts, making millions recruiting lawyers to prominent law firms, some of which have had businesses as well, before the court. house democrats have had enough. representatives introduced a bill to tackle ethics concerns, the judicial ethics enforcement act of 2024. this bill has gained support from congressman adam schiff and would create an office of the inspector general to ensure accountability for justices sitting on the supreme court. congresswoman stansbury joins me now. great to have you back on the show. very important piece of legislation that you and others have introduced. we know the court released its first formal code of ethics in november and it was criticized for lacking enforcement mechanisms, it didn't really include any new roles that would address the lapses that we've seen from some of the justices recently. how did that play into your decision to introduce
questionable ties to republican mega-donors, which includes expensive, paid luxury vacations, samuel alito's undisclosed fishing trips with gop billionaire, pulsing or, and chief justice john roberts his wife, jane roberts, making millions recruiting lawyers to prominent law firms, some of which have had businesses as well, before the court. house democrats have had enough. representatives introduced a bill to tackle ethics concerns, the judicial ethics enforcement act of 2024. this bill has...
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several of the justices like alito and gorsuch, they think that they could not provide emergency access to life-saving abortion if it uses the word unborn child. it seems like a bit of a leap, that language does not tell us much. but you might see the court sort of start to record nice personhood in these statutory contexts. think about alabama and their ivf decision. it was not a constitutional decision, but about a wrongful step -- death statute. it can have high stakes, even when we are not talking about the constitution. >> let's go to arizona. house democrats passed a bill to repeal that 1864 abortion ban after a few republicans crossed the aisle to join them. the state senate is also expected to appeal that wall, but it will likely go into effect for a short period of time because under arizona law, appeals do not go into effect until 90 days after legislative session ends. does that mean backlash and political consequences that they will continue, even though it has already been repealed, and what about women seeking abortions in the interim? >> yeah, it will be a very confusing
several of the justices like alito and gorsuch, they think that they could not provide emergency access to life-saving abortion if it uses the word unborn child. it seems like a bit of a leap, that language does not tell us much. but you might see the court sort of start to record nice personhood in these statutory contexts. think about alabama and their ivf decision. it was not a constitutional decision, but about a wrongful step -- death statute. it can have high stakes, even when we are not...
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let me play a moment from justice alito. >> if an incumbent, who loses a very close, hotly contested election, knows that a real possibility after leaving office is not that the president is going to be able to go off into peaceful retirement, but that the president may be criminally prosecuted by a bitter political opponents, will that not lead us into a cycle that destabilizes the functioning of our country as a democracy? >> he seems to be arguing in plain english that immunity is necessary because otherwise, presidents fear prosecution and will be incentivized to attempt to hold power unlawfully. what did you make of that statement? >> i thought it missed two important things. in the 200 year history of this country, it's never happened because we always thought that presidents were subject to criminal liability, and second, that there were powerful remarks made in january 2021 where they said, do not impeach president trump. instead, you can indict him after he leaves office. that person was donald trump's own lawyer. so, trumping the impeachment is saying, i can't be impeached,
let me play a moment from justice alito. >> if an incumbent, who loses a very close, hotly contested election, knows that a real possibility after leaving office is not that the president is going to be able to go off into peaceful retirement, but that the president may be criminally prosecuted by a bitter political opponents, will that not lead us into a cycle that destabilizes the functioning of our country as a democracy? >> he seems to be arguing in plain english that immunity...
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how many times have justice alito and justice thomas asked questions about the fairness of a prosecution when it comes to the criminal defendant. they are not particularly known for that. so it is a little striking to hear so many of those concerns today, coming out of that segment of the court. when you think of the dominant methodology of the court right now is reading the statute, that it is just what the plain text says. here is the plain text that's so good for the government, lawrence. it says it is a crime to otherwise obstruct, influence, or impede any official proceeding. it sure seems like dollars to donuts, not just what trump did, but what fisher did when the other 300 defendants were to obstruct an official proceeding. doesn't say anything about evidence in that destruction of evidence in that particular part of the statute. and that notably is what judge pam who wrote the court of appeal's opinion is what she harped on, which is this was a standalone provision, and i didn't quite hear an answer to that in the argument today. so i know right now the reports are the governmen
how many times have justice alito and justice thomas asked questions about the fairness of a prosecution when it comes to the criminal defendant. they are not particularly known for that. so it is a little striking to hear so many of those concerns today, coming out of that segment of the court. when you think of the dominant methodology of the court right now is reading the statute, that it is just what the plain text says. here is the plain text that's so good for the government, lawrence. it...
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questions about how he feels about the justices he appointed, chief justice john roberts and justice samuel alito who wrote the opinion overturning roe v. wade. without those bush judges on the supreme court, it could not have happened. george bush's father appointed justice thomas where he waited patiently for 30 years to overturn roe v. wade. it is the work of the last three republican presidents and everyone who helped their campaigns that has sent the state of arizona back to life in 1864 when they had no running water, no electricity or toilets and republicans in the legislature decided to keep that state living in 1864. when they blocked an attempt by democrats to repeal the 1864 law which the supreme court of arizona this week said is now the law of arizona banning abortion and providing a five- year prison sentence for anyone who participates in any way in any abortion services. president biden's reelection campaign has rushed in to arizona with an aggressive television advertising campaign about the stakes for the people of arizona. >> because of donald trump, millions of women lost the
questions about how he feels about the justices he appointed, chief justice john roberts and justice samuel alito who wrote the opinion overturning roe v. wade. without those bush judges on the supreme court, it could not have happened. george bush's father appointed justice thomas where he waited patiently for 30 years to overturn roe v. wade. it is the work of the last three republican presidents and everyone who helped their campaigns that has sent the state of arizona back to life in 1864...
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then you heard from some conservative justices like sam alito who were concerned political opponents might go after presidents if they weren't given the immunity trump was talking about. take a listen to what they said. >> will that not lead us into a cycle that destabilizes the functioning of our country as a democracy? >> if a president sells nuclear secrets to a foreign adversary, is that immune? how about if a president orders the military to stage a coup? >> i'm trying to understand what the disincentive is from turning the oval office into, you know, the seat of criminal activity in this country. >> now, during the oral arguments, it sounded like the justices might end up doing a sort of split decision, split ruling here, and it might even go back to the district court, and that would affect timing, which is really critical because of the november election. if we could put it up for folks, we had oral arguments yesterday and after that the supreme court is likely to rule sometime in june. if there is a trial, it would start about three months later, and that trial could take up
then you heard from some conservative justices like sam alito who were concerned political opponents might go after presidents if they weren't given the immunity trump was talking about. take a listen to what they said. >> will that not lead us into a cycle that destabilizes the functioning of our country as a democracy? >> if a president sells nuclear secrets to a foreign adversary, is that immune? how about if a president orders the military to stage a coup? >> i'm trying to...
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i do think it is a little interesting for the step backward, how many times have justice alito or justice thomas asked , how fair is a charge with the defendant. it is a little bit striking to hear so many of those concerns coming out of that segment of the court. similarly, i think a dominant methodology right now is textualism. reading the statute as what it's plaintext says. here the plaintext is so good for the government. it says it is a crime to otherwise obstruct, influence, or impede any official proceeding. it sure seems like dollars to donuts not just what trump did but what joe fischer did with the other 300 defendants was to obstruct an official proceeding. it does not say anything about evidence and destruction of evidence and that statute. so the judge that wrote the court of appeals opinion is what she harped on. she said, this is a standalone provision in the statute. it does not say anything about evidence destruction. i did not hear anything about that in the oral argument today. i know that the government will -- certainly not lose the trump prosecution but may lose som
i do think it is a little interesting for the step backward, how many times have justice alito or justice thomas asked , how fair is a charge with the defendant. it is a little bit striking to hear so many of those concerns coming out of that segment of the court. similarly, i think a dominant methodology right now is textualism. reading the statute as what it's plaintext says. here the plaintext is so good for the government. it says it is a crime to otherwise obstruct, influence, or impede...
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i mean this is one where it's even justices alito and thomas footnote the outrageous fact that thomas is going to sit on this case tomorrow and hear it. leave that aside. even they i think cannot, will not stomach the idea of a blanket immunity. they may decide that there's some small area which maybe a president is immune, for instance, foreign relations, something that's exclusively or almost exclusively within his province, but it's hard to see that it would be in this case with these charges. >> andrew weissmann, thank you very much for joining us. we'll listen to the court tomorrow. >>> a programming note, andrew weissmann will join us in studio tomorrow at this hour after we've all heard the oral arguments at the supreme court. msnbc's coverage of the arguments start at 10:00 a.m. eastern time tomorrow and tomorrow night i'll join rachel maddow for a special prime time coverage of the supreme court hearing starting at 8:00 p.m. that will go on for two hours before "the last word" comes on at 10:00 p.m. tomorrow night, as usually scheduled. >>> coming up, today president joe bide
i mean this is one where it's even justices alito and thomas footnote the outrageous fact that thomas is going to sit on this case tomorrow and hear it. leave that aside. even they i think cannot, will not stomach the idea of a blanket immunity. they may decide that there's some small area which maybe a president is immune, for instance, foreign relations, something that's exclusively or almost exclusively within his province, but it's hard to see that it would be in this case with these...
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detect a desire to institute a kind of religious dock taught over the country from people like samuel alito, and i have talked about repealing the 20th century as a core goal of magaism. it seems like what offends them is the 20th century made what the constitution prescribed as a small "l" liberalism, the 20th century is the great american century because it made it more real for women, for workers, for what used to be child labors, for immigrants, for black people. and they're offended by it, by the whole 20th century. >> that's right. it's important to separate that from what they talk about, they're upset about wokeness. people were upset about wokeness in the civil rights era too. many whites were upset about the civil rights movement and they regarded it as the wokeness of their time. it's true it's the fundamental elements of our system they're opposed to even though they want to say it's an excess of wokeness. i think we need to understand that it isn't just the whims of donald trump, and one of the reasons he's talking the way he talks is that his most reliable group of supporters
detect a desire to institute a kind of religious dock taught over the country from people like samuel alito, and i have talked about repealing the 20th century as a core goal of magaism. it seems like what offends them is the 20th century made what the constitution prescribed as a small "l" liberalism, the 20th century is the great american century because it made it more real for women, for workers, for what used to be child labors, for immigrants, for black people. and they're...
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bush, one by biden, and one by trump, who was an alito clerk, they are going to have to decide will they now need to get this law rewritten and submitted to them in a separate filing from texas? are they going to simply take into account the old law or what they said in oral arguments today? essentially they have to weigh in on the constitutionality of this law, and whoever wins we can be sure the losing side will appeal to the supreme court. and of course immigration is becoming such a huge part of the trump campaign, with a lot of, you know, false statements, and actually, i was, you know, checking the records. immigration is -- it was higher under trump initially. >> than under obama. >> than under obama. >> yes. >> and when biden came in it was at least initially not as high as of course it became. >> now covid obviously put a huge damper on immigration in 2020, and so biden would have taken office. really the overall trend is that immigration has continued to rise over the last decade because we have a global problem in the western sphere. we're seeing people try to fly africa. each
bush, one by biden, and one by trump, who was an alito clerk, they are going to have to decide will they now need to get this law rewritten and submitted to them in a separate filing from texas? are they going to simply take into account the old law or what they said in oral arguments today? essentially they have to weigh in on the constitutionality of this law, and whoever wins we can be sure the losing side will appeal to the supreme court. and of course immigration is becoming such a huge...
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at one point, justice alito even saying, i don't want to talk about this particular case. the question i would ask is, why not? this is the case before you. one of the most simple and democracy-enhancing things this court could have done would be to say, there may be circumstances in which presidents are entitled to immunity, but this indictment, as alleged here, doesn't constitute one of those scenarios, and we as a court can always revisit it if and when the facts present themselves to us that would cause us to have a different conclusion. >> barbara, lisa said right off the top, based on what she heard yesterday, there is no chance that this makes it to trial before the election. certainly no verdict before the election. that seems to be the consensus view. if that is the case, if you agree with that, how does this play out now, for our view viewers. we have the ruling, then what happens to this case? >> it depends on how they decide this case. it seems like, reading the tea leaves, that there will be at least five justices who say that there is limited immunity for a p
at one point, justice alito even saying, i don't want to talk about this particular case. the question i would ask is, why not? this is the case before you. one of the most simple and democracy-enhancing things this court could have done would be to say, there may be circumstances in which presidents are entitled to immunity, but this indictment, as alleged here, doesn't constitute one of those scenarios, and we as a court can always revisit it if and when the facts present themselves to us...
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in just about every public appearance he has justice alito trashes the media for covering the supreme court, like how dare you cover us, there are only nine of us, we're here till we die, how dare you cover us. others have said things that make abundantly clear they're not just loosely aware of the coverage, they consume all of it. what do you think the impact of cheney's op-ed will be? >> well, i think to a person they're probably very thin-skinned. these are people that -- and frankly offended that anyone would call into question their conduct. some of them came to the bench with a big chip on their shoulder because of things that occurred at their confirmation hearings. i think you can put both kavanaugh and clarence thomas in that category. so this -- will they be influenced by this? i don't know. i think john roberts might. and it's really his responsibility. he's the chief justice. and keep in mind jack smith went to the supreme court months ago and said take this up now, don't wait for the appellate court. it's coming to you anyway. take it up now. and they go no, no, no, no, g
in just about every public appearance he has justice alito trashes the media for covering the supreme court, like how dare you cover us, there are only nine of us, we're here till we die, how dare you cover us. others have said things that make abundantly clear they're not just loosely aware of the coverage, they consume all of it. what do you think the impact of cheney's op-ed will be? >> well, i think to a person they're probably very thin-skinned. these are people that -- and frankly...