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joe biden is out of the race. this means in south carolina, hillary clinton is now 50 points ahead of the nearest rival. that means if sanders goes into iowa and pulls off the upset next year, he has to make up 50 points in south carolina. and what that really means is eat into a 77-point gap among black voters. that's a big problem for bernie sanders so far. he's not shown any sign to make significant inroads with black support. really right now hillary clinton, the campaign talks about south carolina as a firewall, it is. that's the biggest thing she gets out of biden getting out of the race ian the big question to james carville earlier in the show, do you think joe biden will endorse hillary clinton any time soon? >> my understanding is that the president will not endorse in the early stages. >> the vice president? >> will not either. they'll wait until it's resolved and then say we support her as the nominee. >> thank you so much. >>> president obama is in west virginia tackling an epidemic the white house sa
joe biden is out of the race. this means in south carolina, hillary clinton is now 50 points ahead of the nearest rival. that means if sanders goes into iowa and pulls off the upset next year, he has to make up 50 points in south carolina. and what that really means is eat into a 77-point gap among black voters. that's a big problem for bernie sanders so far. he's not shown any sign to make significant inroads with black support. really right now hillary clinton, the campaign talks about south...
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i just wanted to say a brief word on joe biden. joe biden is a man who has devoted his entire life to public service. and to the wellbeing of working families and the middle class. he made a difficult decision based on the needs of his family and his view of his future and i respect the decision he made. i want to thank joe biden and president obama for the work that they have done over the last seven years in making very significant improvements to our economy. obviously, we have a long way to go. but because of joe biden, because of president obama, we have seen significant progress in the last seven years. let us not forget that seven years ago we were losing 800,000 jobs a month. seven years ago, the world's financial system was on the verge of collapse. and we were running the largest deficit in the history of this country. >> there we have bernie sanders giving remarks of biden, the first one to make it to a camera. hillary clinton is preparing for the benghazi testimony in washington and tweeted a statement of what a good ma
i just wanted to say a brief word on joe biden. joe biden is a man who has devoted his entire life to public service. and to the wellbeing of working families and the middle class. he made a difficult decision based on the needs of his family and his view of his future and i respect the decision he made. i want to thank joe biden and president obama for the work that they have done over the last seven years in making very significant improvements to our economy. obviously, we have a long way to...
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his name was joe biden. now, joe biden back then was many things. he was a prolific fund-raiser. he was an energetic campaigner. he was also just about to get a major national boost in recogniti recognition. he was the chairman of the senate judiciary committee. that role he was about to run the supreme court nomination hearings for robert bork, robert bork was an extremely controversial pick that president ronald reagan had just sent up. this was a major event in politics. most of although, back at that time in 1987, joe biden was gaining a reputation as a captivating speaker. and a democratic presidential debate in iowa that july, he wowed the audience with an eloquent and inspiring closing statement, the consensus after that debate seemed to be that joe biden had come out on top, that he was going to head into the fall with the wind at his back. that was joe biden's position as the summer of 19 7 came to a close. but then, on september 12th, 1987, nbc news the des moines register newspaper and a "new york times" reporter named maureen dowd all came out simultaneously with a st
his name was joe biden. now, joe biden back then was many things. he was a prolific fund-raiser. he was an energetic campaigner. he was also just about to get a major national boost in recogniti recognition. he was the chairman of the senate judiciary committee. that role he was about to run the supreme court nomination hearings for robert bork, robert bork was an extremely controversial pick that president ronald reagan had just sent up. this was a major event in politics. most of although,...
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joe biden saying he is not running for president. andrea mitchell among those watching with us in washington, though andrea, he seemingly just gave the speech he would have given had he gotten in. >> yes. we have been told by people around him that when he puts preparing and considering this, brian, when he announced it would be consequential, he would talk about his values and the middle class and about the fight against cancer and about all the things that he cares so deeply about. this was joe biden giving the speech that he would have given had he declared. and his closest people, his sister valerie, his top advisers and all the others were all there in the rose garden in the front rows. so this was a coordinated decision with the white house, obviously, with the president standing there silently. and dr. jill biden. painful for the biden family. he so wanted to do -- when i was sitting at the dinner last night watching him speak and carter and mondale on stage, and i looked to a legend senator and said, he's going through a with
joe biden saying he is not running for president. andrea mitchell among those watching with us in washington, though andrea, he seemingly just gave the speech he would have given had he gotten in. >> yes. we have been told by people around him that when he puts preparing and considering this, brian, when he announced it would be consequential, he would talk about his values and the middle class and about the fight against cancer and about all the things that he cares so deeply about. this...
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joe biden back at third at 15%. kristin welker is at the forum where the vice president is speaking. while he hasn't -- he said something that was striking about the difference between a secretary of state goes overseas and when he goes overseas. what is he saying? >> reporter: that's right, peter. the vice president certainly making in eye-raising remarks, talking about the difference as you point out between the secretary of state going overseas, a vice president going overseas, of course he representing the president, the closest person to the president. he made some our eyebrow-raising remarks. you'll recall that secretary clinton during that debate when she was asked about her enemies named republicans as her enemies. take a listen to what vice president biden said. >> i really respect the members up there. i still have a lot of republican friends. i don't think my chief enenemy is the republican party. this is a matter of making things work. >> peter, the vice president made similar remarks. a lot of people sa
joe biden back at third at 15%. kristin welker is at the forum where the vice president is speaking. while he hasn't -- he said something that was striking about the difference between a secretary of state goes overseas and when he goes overseas. what is he saying? >> reporter: that's right, peter. the vice president certainly making in eye-raising remarks, talking about the difference as you point out between the secretary of state going overseas, a vice president going overseas, of...
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again that opening for joe biden. i'm not sure how big it is right now. >> steve kornacki, gabriel sherman, we should do this more often. thank you all today. >>> a lot ahead on this busy monday morning starting with the critical step forward to make the iran nuclear deal a reality. >>> also today, following some breaking news on vice president joe biden, again as we noted, announcing his decision for the plan of the 2016 race. more details as we get them live this morning on msnbc. >>> that feud between donald trump and jeb bush heating up as well. we'll be right back. looks like some folks have had it with their airline credit card miles. sometimes those seats cost a ridiculous number of miles... or there's a fee to use them. i know. it's so frustrating. they'd be a lot happier with the capital one venture card. and you would, too! why? it's so easy with venture. you earn unlimited double miles on every purchase, every day. just book any flight you want then use your miles to cover the cost. now, that's more like it
again that opening for joe biden. i'm not sure how big it is right now. >> steve kornacki, gabriel sherman, we should do this more often. thank you all today. >>> a lot ahead on this busy monday morning starting with the critical step forward to make the iran nuclear deal a reality. >>> also today, following some breaking news on vice president joe biden, again as we noted, announcing his decision for the plan of the 2016 race. more details as we get them live this...
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love joe biden. he has been a leader in the senate for over 40 years and the vice president and exemplified what you are supposed to do in the senate. 29 years old he is elected to the senate. he wasn't a rich business person like a lot of people are. he did it for the right reasons and we romanticize biden a little bit because he is what we want our elected officials to be. >> governor you have run for office yourself successfully. i want to play something from a debate where biden was talking about foreign policy back in 2008 when running for president. let's listen to what he said then. >> senator biden would you pledge that iron would not build a nuclear bomb on your watch? >> i pledge to keep america safe. presidents make wise decisions informed not by a vacuum, but by the situation they find themselves yt world y. will do my power to stop iran from getting a nuclear weapon but i will never take my eye off the ball sgrm ball. >> when you are running for office you imagine yourself in that office
love joe biden. he has been a leader in the senate for over 40 years and the vice president and exemplified what you are supposed to do in the senate. 29 years old he is elected to the senate. he wasn't a rich business person like a lot of people are. he did it for the right reasons and we romanticize biden a little bit because he is what we want our elected officials to be. >> governor you have run for office yourself successfully. i want to play something from a debate where biden was...
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nobody has anything like that, compared to joe biden. >> if you can't admire joe biden as a person, then you probably have a problem. you need to do some self-evaluation, because what's not to like? here's what i can tell you, that life can change just like that. don't take it for granted. don't take relationships for granted. i called him after beau died, and he bakley said, well, beau was my soul. we talked for a long time, he came to my ceremony, and said some of the most incredibly heartfelt things that anybody could ever say to me, and he's the nicest person i think i've ever met in politics. >> is that right? >> he is as good a man as god ever created. >> lindsey graham tearing up while describing his respect and affection for his friend joe biden, which persists alongside all of their very active political disagreements. >>> when "time" wanted to profile vice president biden as one of the most influential people in the world, the profile written for him was written by eric cantor, the republican house majority leader at the time. he two too obvious in washington, opposing sides do
nobody has anything like that, compared to joe biden. >> if you can't admire joe biden as a person, then you probably have a problem. you need to do some self-evaluation, because what's not to like? here's what i can tell you, that life can change just like that. don't take it for granted. don't take relationships for granted. i called him after beau died, and he bakley said, well, beau was my soul. we talked for a long time, he came to my ceremony, and said some of the most incredibly...
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joe biden showed a lot of attitude today. he took a shot at those who treat him as middle class joe who say he is not sophisticated enough. he took a shot at democrats who call republicans enemies and all of those who depend on super pacs. you can argue his attack lines were not directed exclusively at hillary and can argue it did not exclude hillary. we saw today standing at biden's side. the hillary surrogates are there now after the statement saying they wish biden had gotten into the race. that's the line. as a few days ago if biden get into the race he would be hurting the chances of the first woman to be president that he would be the villain and spoiler for cutting into her advantage over bernie sanders. the contradiction between pro clinton line before and after is hard to square. either they wanted him there as a spoiler or easy rival. i believe hillary clinton herself is happy with the news today that her only rival is the socialist senator from ben and jerry's country. what she made have to worry about is between h
joe biden showed a lot of attitude today. he took a shot at those who treat him as middle class joe who say he is not sophisticated enough. he took a shot at democrats who call republicans enemies and all of those who depend on super pacs. you can argue his attack lines were not directed exclusively at hillary and can argue it did not exclude hillary. we saw today standing at biden's side. the hillary surrogates are there now after the statement saying they wish biden had gotten into the race....
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what is joe biden thinking? i can tell you that here at the white house and all throughout washington and in political circles throughout the country the anticipation is very high. again, sources telling nbc news that that decision is very close. you mentioned the benghazi testimony on thursday. there are a couple of other things that are playing into this timing question. one is the number of people who are sitting on the sidelines, people who would go out and be a part of this team, people who would work to make him president. they are obviously waiting to hear. there's a very practical set of deadlines that start in early november. you have to get organized and get ready to get on ballots in various states. but then ultimately there are folks who say look, joe biden is not going to be pressured by anyone no matter what any other democrats even have to say. this is going to be something he does in his own time. i can tell you it was the number one topic at the white house press briefing this afternoon. asked a
what is joe biden thinking? i can tell you that here at the white house and all throughout washington and in political circles throughout the country the anticipation is very high. again, sources telling nbc news that that decision is very close. you mentioned the benghazi testimony on thursday. there are a couple of other things that are playing into this timing question. one is the number of people who are sitting on the sidelines, people who would go out and be a part of this team, people...
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that's good for joe biden. he's the veep. and also this is a year, betty, where authenticity is something that voters do seem to be looking for. >> and that's something he has? >> oh, listen, i mean, particularly compared to hillary clinton. let's just say it, right? >> speaking of hillary clinton, so if joe biden does jump into this race, who is he a bigger threat to? hillary clinton or the gop front-runners? >> well, she would be the tougher of the two. i would say. i mean, she has so many advantages, in the money, and the support, and all that time that you mentioned. but, listen, i think that if you stacked him against any of those republicans right now, i think he would probably win. but he's got to get through her to get there. >> right. hey, we'll see if it happens. and before we go, though, i have to ask you about this, because we don't hear from former president george w. bush too often, and definitely he doesn't trade too many blows when it comes to others on the political scene. but he does not seem to be a fan of
that's good for joe biden. he's the veep. and also this is a year, betty, where authenticity is something that voters do seem to be looking for. >> and that's something he has? >> oh, listen, i mean, particularly compared to hillary clinton. let's just say it, right? >> speaking of hillary clinton, so if joe biden does jump into this race, who is he a bigger threat to? hillary clinton or the gop front-runners? >> well, she would be the tougher of the two. i would say. i...
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and so a relieved hillary clinton called joe biden after his speech today. they no doubt exchanged pleasantries and well wishes. hillary clinton tweeted vp is a good friend and a great man. today and always inspired by his optimism and commitment to change the world for the better. in a statement, hillary clinton said i'm confident history isn't finished with joe biden. as he said, there's more work to do joe biden gave this advice to the democratic candidates for president today. >> this party, our nation will be making a tragic mistake if we walk away or attempt to undo the obama legacy. the american people have worked too hard and we've come too far for that. democrats should not only defend this record and protect this record, they should run on the record. >> senator bernie sanders rejected that advice tonight. here he is with chris hayes. >> we need a political revolution. we need to mobilize tens of millions of people to begin to stand up and fight back and reclaim the government which is now owned by big money. do i think that was the work -- was tha
and so a relieved hillary clinton called joe biden after his speech today. they no doubt exchanged pleasantries and well wishes. hillary clinton tweeted vp is a good friend and a great man. today and always inspired by his optimism and commitment to change the world for the better. in a statement, hillary clinton said i'm confident history isn't finished with joe biden. as he said, there's more work to do joe biden gave this advice to the democratic candidates for president today. >> this...
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we are asking you has joe biden waited too long to make his decision. we are launching the bing pulse question of the day right now. as far as early voting goes, take a look at how we are looking so far with those of you out there. kind of split right now. you see this jump from 50% to 51% of viewers who say yes, 49% of our viewers say no. so continue to weigh in. keep that in mind, especially with that bold talk from the vice president earlier this morning at that forum honoring walter mondale and to see again if that changes. it will be interesting to see if at one point i want to ask governor rendell if he thought there was a point where there was room for him and that time has simply passed post-debate and how well hillary clinton did. >> governor, what do you think? >> about three to four weeks ago, when hillary was staggering in the polls, when she had had some very difficult weeks on the e-mail questions, there was an opportunity to get in there and get on that debate stage and neutralize hillary's performance in the debate. there would have been
we are asking you has joe biden waited too long to make his decision. we are launching the bing pulse question of the day right now. as far as early voting goes, take a look at how we are looking so far with those of you out there. kind of split right now. you see this jump from 50% to 51% of viewers who say yes, 49% of our viewers say no. so continue to weigh in. keep that in mind, especially with that bold talk from the vice president earlier this morning at that forum honoring walter mondale...
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have known joe biden for many, many years, and like him very very much. we were anticipating running against him, we were anticipating running without him. i think he fought long and hard about this decision, what it means to the family and what it means to the country, and he chose not to. >> you gamed it out, obviously. >> yeah, sure. >> it would be irresponsible not to. is there a policy area, are there a set of policy questions, legislative initiatives, conversations within the party that would happen that won't happen with him not in the race? >> i don't know. i mean, i think in many ways his record was not totally dissimilar from secretary clinton's. he may be stronger on certainly other issues, but we cannot know what we will not know. so we will see. >> there were not things you were gaming out saying this issue, this issue will sently be front and center of the campaign if he gets in the race? >> no, what we were doing is reviewing hi record to know where he stood and where we stood differently. >> when were you first elected to be mayor of burli
have known joe biden for many, many years, and like him very very much. we were anticipating running against him, we were anticipating running without him. i think he fought long and hard about this decision, what it means to the family and what it means to the country, and he chose not to. >> you gamed it out, obviously. >> yeah, sure. >> it would be irresponsible not to. is there a policy area, are there a set of policy questions, legislative initiatives, conversations...
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joe biden meanwhile, down a couple points to 15%. it really gets to a thing for joe biden where if he gets in this race, it's not enough to say hey democrats i'm ready, i'm available. he needs to create contrast with hillary clinton. he needs to o knocklating himself from attacks from her. this is the backdrop from what we might be hearing today. also on the top, joe biden, 38% of democrats telling him not to get in this race. only 30%, fewer than one in three saying to get in. quickly we can show you same poll here, republican side, donald trump continues to lead, 25%. this is the highest, this is the best performance for donald trump in the nbc news/wall street journal poll, 25%, his support has grown. look at the jeb bush, all the way back at 8% % and the most interesting find i think is this. we asked republican voters, forget who you're for right now. who could you see yourself voting for? could you see yourself potentially supporting the following candidates? and you see when you ask it that way, ben carson is the most popular
joe biden meanwhile, down a couple points to 15%. it really gets to a thing for joe biden where if he gets in this race, it's not enough to say hey democrats i'm ready, i'm available. he needs to create contrast with hillary clinton. he needs to o knocklating himself from attacks from her. this is the backdrop from what we might be hearing today. also on the top, joe biden, 38% of democrats telling him not to get in this race. only 30%, fewer than one in three saying to get in. quickly we can...
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joe biden's trying to make up his mind. do you think there's room in the democratic race for joe biden? >> absolutely. look, i think hillary is the right candidate. i think that the more she goes forward, like we saw in the last debate, the more it's going to become obvious to more and more democrats, that she's a person that can not only win, but do an extraordinary job in the white house. but i love senator biden and i'm kind of a believer that all this action in our presidency, from donald trump and other candidates are attracting so much attention, that's nothing but good for our democracy. so that's okay it's a vibrant race, so i hope joe makes a decision that's best for vice president biden. >> senator cory booker from new jersey, thank you for your time. appreciate it. >>> all right, let's turn now to our washington bureau and nbc justice correspondent pete williams for some reaction to what we just heard. so pete, let's just start on the basic prospects of what cory booker is describing, this bipartisan, criminal ju
joe biden's trying to make up his mind. do you think there's room in the democratic race for joe biden? >> absolutely. look, i think hillary is the right candidate. i think that the more she goes forward, like we saw in the last debate, the more it's going to become obvious to more and more democrats, that she's a person that can not only win, but do an extraordinary job in the white house. but i love senator biden and i'm kind of a believer that all this action in our presidency, from...
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joe biden is behind it. how big a political problem is it for joe biden if he gets in this race where labor is such a big part of the democratic party and is for the trade deal and she is against it? >> first of all, secretary clinton has every right to change her mind. if you look at the recent number of labor unions that said we are going to wait to see what the vice president does that is a sign he has had. i think again vice president can stand on his own record. the fact that so many are waiting for him to make a decision is a point to that. >> from the hillary clinton standpoint i'm curious what you make of the idea that she can be portrayed as a flip-flopper. i'm imagining if biden got in the race he could say you may not like where i stand but at least i have been straight with you from the beginning and haven't changed my position like she has. >> i think most voters will not be shocked that people's positions are shaped by elections and that your positions are somewhat determined by who your oppone
joe biden is behind it. how big a political problem is it for joe biden if he gets in this race where labor is such a big part of the democratic party and is for the trade deal and she is against it? >> first of all, secretary clinton has every right to change her mind. if you look at the recent number of labor unions that said we are going to wait to see what the vice president does that is a sign he has had. i think again vice president can stand on his own record. the fact that so many...
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so, joe biden is coming up against that. we've also got new polling post that first democratic primary debate from nbc news online poll with survey monkey that shows that hillary clinton is viewed as having, by a majority of democrats, as having won that debate, and joe biden has actually slid from a predebate poll that nbc news conducted from 15% to 10%. those numbers aren't great for somebody who's looking to find his own lane and jump into the race this late. >> all right, carrie, thank you. joining me now, steve kornacki with a deeper look at that first poll conducted by nbc news. since tuesday's democratic presidential debate. what have you got for us? >> hot off the presses, our own inhouse nbc news online poll. let's take a look. as carrie just said, this is the horse race right now. hillary clinton on the democratic side after the debate continues to lead by double digits over bernie sanders, 45% to 31%. and you can see, as carrie said, from a month ago, joe biden has lost one-third of his support in the democratic r
so, joe biden is coming up against that. we've also got new polling post that first democratic primary debate from nbc news online poll with survey monkey that shows that hillary clinton is viewed as having, by a majority of democrats, as having won that debate, and joe biden has actually slid from a predebate poll that nbc news conducted from 15% to 10%. those numbers aren't great for somebody who's looking to find his own lane and jump into the race this late. >> all right, carrie,...
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>> joe biden. >> all right. so here is what we're talking about. overall the people that we talked ability these two guys you at home can you recognize these faces and do you know their names? they will be on the stage tonight? jim webb. they came out there and names did not register or faces. goes to show especially how that's reflected in the poll itself out there. that's the wild card and this could be a moment for martin to have them and the breakout moments. >> wasn't that interesting and liz smith telling us on the air that they think that biden should get in the race. we know that he is going to be watching to want and we have a programming note to pass on to 2016. we just learned this and coming up the republican debate respon sponsored and will take place at the university of houston. we will will be right back. mone♪ ♪ when you're sitting at the ta...♪ what? you get it? i get the gist, yeah. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. only glucerna has carbsteady, diabetes, steady is exciting. cli
>> joe biden. >> all right. so here is what we're talking about. overall the people that we talked ability these two guys you at home can you recognize these faces and do you know their names? they will be on the stage tonight? jim webb. they came out there and names did not register or faces. goes to show especially how that's reflected in the poll itself out there. that's the wild card and this could be a moment for martin to have them and the breakout moments. >> wasn't...
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>> number one, joe biden's been in the public eye for longer than i've been alive. and so, in terms of opposition research, what you're talking about is basically building what they call a book, and it's almost all going to be public stuff. things that are known by insiders, but can be use bid a campaign. i think it would be political malpractice for her not do be doing this -- >> i was going to say, is this standard operating procedure? >> everybody's got what they call an op research book. in the case of joe biden it would be impossible after a couple presidential runs, vice president for eight years and in the senate for 36 years if we didn't pretty much know everything there is to know. >> you know, clinton's e-mail investigation is far from over. and we are, in fact, learning more about this one. now "the washington post" is reporting the fbi is investigating, and expanding that investigation to a second data company. what could this mean? >> well, senator ron johnson from wisconsin thinks it means that there's a cover-up going on. he's revealed some e-mails be
>> number one, joe biden's been in the public eye for longer than i've been alive. and so, in terms of opposition research, what you're talking about is basically building what they call a book, and it's almost all going to be public stuff. things that are known by insiders, but can be use bid a campaign. i think it would be political malpractice for her not do be doing this -- >> i was going to say, is this standard operating procedure? >> everybody's got what they call an op...
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joe biden does not have a national fund-raising base. he never did he was elected to the senate from delaware, a teeny state. always huge margins. it was never required to build out that infrastructure. he's run for president a couple of times before. once seriously in 2008 and lesser 20 years earlier, he never developed those ties. that's one huge reason for joe biden not to get in at this point. we are hearing he is still seriously considering it though. no bets are off. he could figure out a way to raise enough to keep him in the game. he is the vice president of the united states. >> bush has that super pac, rubio has the big super pac. are we reassessing how big a role they are going to play? >> to some extent. you have to have some cash in your own account. you can't outsource everything in the super pac. they are very important. i think we'll see just how important in the months ahead as they fund air barrages and gets dirtier and anger. how much money do you have to have? you have to have some of your own and it's got to be like
joe biden does not have a national fund-raising base. he never did he was elected to the senate from delaware, a teeny state. always huge margins. it was never required to build out that infrastructure. he's run for president a couple of times before. once seriously in 2008 and lesser 20 years earlier, he never developed those ties. that's one huge reason for joe biden not to get in at this point. we are hearing he is still seriously considering it though. no bets are off. he could figure out a...
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democrats love joe biden. they love joe biden. i think a lot of them still want hunk to be president before him. >>> let's move to the republican side of the aisle. let's stick to the speaker race. i have to just say wow. i think we saw with dave brat and charlie dent, hugh, do you feel like that viewers now know, americans now know this is -- that was republican versus republican. >> if i were paul ryan -- and i'm hoping that the packers beat the rams today so he's in a good mood because i want him to agree to be the speaker -- i would ask kathy mcmorris rogers and peter, the most respected republicans in the house, you bring in general mcchrystal, condi rice, people like larry arn and bill kristol and at the end of it paul ryan says here are my terms, i will lead if you will give me 230 votes and they should vote for him and he should lead. he is the guy to lead. we need him to lead. >> kathleen just wrote "don't do it, paul." >> he would be a great speaker. he has the qualifications for the job and he's well like and respected.
democrats love joe biden. they love joe biden. i think a lot of them still want hunk to be president before him. >>> let's move to the republican side of the aisle. let's stick to the speaker race. i have to just say wow. i think we saw with dave brat and charlie dent, hugh, do you feel like that viewers now know, americans now know this is -- that was republican versus republican. >> if i were paul ryan -- and i'm hoping that the packers beat the rams today so he's in a good...
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joe biden believes he's got more time. does he? >> joe biden has a couple of things working against him, the most important are filing deadlines and the bottom line is he can wait as long as he would like to but the states aren't going to wait for him. but the end of december, 1 15 states have their deadlines closed. by the end of january, 30 state, half the delegates, are off of the table. that doesn't change. can you run a passive aggressive campaign for president? which i don't think you can. and he believes, i think, the theory is that he wants knob the race but he doesn't want to do what he needs to do to win whiches to say this "hillary clinton, i like you, democrats like you but you can't win a general election, you have too much baggage, go with me." he won't say that. >> alex? >> i think hilla clinton has some serious problems not in a democratic primary. they love her, right? and there's very little room there. but in a general election she's got trouble. the republican side is a dumpster fire right now, right? and most o
joe biden believes he's got more time. does he? >> joe biden has a couple of things working against him, the most important are filing deadlines and the bottom line is he can wait as long as he would like to but the states aren't going to wait for him. but the end of december, 1 15 states have their deadlines closed. by the end of january, 30 state, half the delegates, are off of the table. that doesn't change. can you run a passive aggressive campaign for president? which i don't think...
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wanting joe biden? >> i can't put my finger on it. i don't have a good reason why i don't think he should run. >> i'm not sure he would make the best president for us. i worry sometimes about some of the things that he has done and said. >> he seems like a really fun guy but i don't know as commander in chief. >> i worry about his temptempprument and decisions he makes. we have a smarter round table here than they are. white house correspondent for the wall street journal and fran ses cuchambers. david, it reminds me of the best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter. i don't know how much thought those people put into it. >> all politics is relative. you don't get to make a choice in a vacuum. you compare between candidates. if you asked what they thought about hillary clinton or bernie sanders maybe they would be lukewarm about those choices. >> maybe waiting for barack obama from 2008 in iowa. the standard is pretty high for an iowa democrat to be excited. it
wanting joe biden? >> i can't put my finger on it. i don't have a good reason why i don't think he should run. >> i'm not sure he would make the best president for us. i worry sometimes about some of the things that he has done and said. >> he seems like a really fun guy but i don't know as commander in chief. >> i worry about his temptempprument and decisions he makes. we have a smarter round table here than they are. white house correspondent for the wall street...
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joe biden as barack obama's vice president could. >> nick makes a good point if joe biden got into the race, he would be peeling off hillary clinton supporters. bernie people are bernie people. they'll support him whether biden gets into the race or not. some polls show if he got in he would chip away at her support. could he resonate with black voters in south carolina the way bernie sanders hasn't proven to do or hispanics in nevada? >> thanks for joining us. thanks for tuning in. chuck will be back tomorrow with more "mtp daily." >>> right now the u.s. saying afghan forces asked for the air strike that killed 22 people at a doctors without borders clinic in kunduz. historic and deadly flooding in the carolinas. the rain is stopping but danger far from over. >> and hillary clinton unveils her plan for major new gun restrictions. >> good day. we begin tonight with new details about the usair strike that killed 22 people including three children at a
joe biden as barack obama's vice president could. >> nick makes a good point if joe biden got into the race, he would be peeling off hillary clinton supporters. bernie people are bernie people. they'll support him whether biden gets into the race or not. some polls show if he got in he would chip away at her support. could he resonate with black voters in south carolina the way bernie sanders hasn't proven to do or hispanics in nevada? >> thanks for joining us. thanks for tuning in....
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while joe biden says no to a presidential run. >>> and then this -- >> strike three called! >> and with that, the mets sweep the cubs, winning their first trip to the world series in 15 years. the big question now is, who will meet them there? it's 5:30 on the east coast it 2:30 out west, and this is "way too early." >>> good morning. it's thursday october 22nd. i'm jonathan capehart. in just a few short hours, former secretary of state hillary clinton is scheduled to appear before the house select committee on benghazi in what is a make or break moment in the 2016 race for the white house. clinton has been off the campaign trail huddling with top advisers, past and present, at her washington home, preparing for what is slated to be eight
while joe biden says no to a presidential run. >>> and then this -- >> strike three called! >> and with that, the mets sweep the cubs, winning their first trip to the world series in 15 years. the big question now is, who will meet them there? it's 5:30 on the east coast it 2:30 out west, and this is "way too early." >>> good morning. it's thursday october 22nd. i'm jonathan capehart. in just a few short hours, former secretary of state hillary clinton is...
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some democrats out in iowa were asked about joe biden. take a look at this. >> how many of you in this room want joe biden to get in the race? you think it would be a good thing if joe biden entered the race. only one out of you. >> raise your hand if you think joe biden is qualified to be president? >> qualified -- i guess you could say qualified. >> what are your reasons for not wanting joe biden to get in, kyle, we'll start with you? >> i really can't put my finger on it. i really don't have a good reason why i don't think he should run. >> i'm not sure he would make the best president for us. i worry sometimes about some of the things that he's done and said. >> so that was mark halperin there in iowa and new hampshire. but no real enthusiasm out there for joe biden according to this focus group. >> not just the absence of enthusiasm but the persistence of concern. we have been talking so much, and for good reason, about the real empathy that any feeling human being has for vice president biden and the losses he's suffered. and they a
some democrats out in iowa were asked about joe biden. take a look at this. >> how many of you in this room want joe biden to get in the race? you think it would be a good thing if joe biden entered the race. only one out of you. >> raise your hand if you think joe biden is qualified to be president? >> qualified -- i guess you could say qualified. >> what are your reasons for not wanting joe biden to get in, kyle, we'll start with you? >> i really can't put my...
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i've never trashed bernie sanders, i'm not going to trash joe biden. i don't think that's how we win general elections. i wasn't ever thinking i would be out on the campaign trail trashing joe biden. >> so, jess, how much do you think this came as a surprise inside hillaryland? >> i don't think anybody anticipated it. >> that's my sense, too. >> i think if anybody said they knew what was going to happen this morning, we took an informal poll, and it was literally split. so i think this was a decision he made on his own terms, with his own consult, exactly as it ought to be. it frankly surprised the heck out of everything, which is nice and refreshing. >> do you buy the -- one of the -- the poorly understood aspects of what happened with hillary clinton's numbers over the summer was that a significant portion of the softening of her numbers had to do with the fact that biden was suddenly being included in polls. do you buy the standard conventional wisdom, which is that ultimately it is now a race, there is for now between biden's absence helps hillary
i've never trashed bernie sanders, i'm not going to trash joe biden. i don't think that's how we win general elections. i wasn't ever thinking i would be out on the campaign trail trashing joe biden. >> so, jess, how much do you think this came as a surprise inside hillaryland? >> i don't think anybody anticipated it. >> that's my sense, too. >> i think if anybody said they knew what was going to happen this morning, we took an informal poll, and it was literally split....
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look, if maureen dowd got him on the phone, got a meeting with him, we know joe biden. he likes to talk. you listen to him on stephen colbert's show talking about his son, hitz thoughts all over the place. one anecdote to one thought to a memory. you can see in the course of talking to him for an hour, an hour and a half, a lot of stuff will come out. >> there's a new york magazine report today saying that basically the clinton campaign working on opposition research just in case joe biden gets in the race. >> sure they are. >> that's not unexpected. >> they get ready a lot and there's an important thing that happened today about the clinton campaign sending a message to biden. they released the leadership teams in three crucial states tworks of them which are very big in swing states. colorado, virginia and minnesota. here's what's interesting. basically the leadership teams are every known democrat that is worth their salt in colorado, virginia and minnesota. is on team hillary. including people that were with obama and not clinton eight years ago. michael bennet. joh
look, if maureen dowd got him on the phone, got a meeting with him, we know joe biden. he likes to talk. you listen to him on stephen colbert's show talking about his son, hitz thoughts all over the place. one anecdote to one thought to a memory. you can see in the course of talking to him for an hour, an hour and a half, a lot of stuff will come out. >> there's a new york magazine report today saying that basically the clinton campaign working on opposition research just in case joe...
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because joe biden's a good guy. he may be too game and have ambitions that he's had trouble catching up with, but one thing he's not. he's not a guy who believes the ends justify the means. he's not someone who goes out to win by hurting other people. his gaffes, if they've had any lasting impact, have done their damage only to him. so i say joe, if you feel you've got it in you, if you'll die not having given it one more college try, go for it. the democratic party can surely stand it. the country may get something good out of it. it may even, though it's a long shot, get you. and that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "all in" with chris hayes starts right now. >>> tonight on "all in" -- >> i don't think he'll end up being president of the united states. >> the rise of the anti-policy politician. >> make you can prove me wrong but i don't think you're a friend to women. >> i knew i shouldn't have picked her. >> reporter: tonight how donald trump. and ben carson continue to defy political gravity. >>
because joe biden's a good guy. he may be too game and have ambitions that he's had trouble catching up with, but one thing he's not. he's not a guy who believes the ends justify the means. he's not someone who goes out to win by hurting other people. his gaffes, if they've had any lasting impact, have done their damage only to him. so i say joe, if you feel you've got it in you, if you'll die not having given it one more college try, go for it. the democratic party can surely stand it. the...
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what about the guy not here, joe biden? kasie hunt is msnbc's political reporter outside the site of tomorrow night's debate. what do you hear on the strip? >> reporter: where it is already approaching, i have to say 100 degrees or so. there is a widespread acknowledgement among the many activists, politician times wandering the halls at the wynn where the debate will take place that hillary clinton is walking on a tight rope here. she has to be very careful how she approaches all those things. she has a lot to lose, unlike bernie sanders and martin o'malley who have a chance to step up and stand out. the thing i keep hearing about here is joe biden. everybody wants to know what i'm hearing about whether joe biden is going to run. what we are hearing in general from his camp from people close to him. we are also hearing from clinton allies in the halls overarchingly it doesn't matter. they are focused trying to convince people here whatted by then does is going to be irrelevant to her future. most folks know that's not the
what about the guy not here, joe biden? kasie hunt is msnbc's political reporter outside the site of tomorrow night's debate. what do you hear on the strip? >> reporter: where it is already approaching, i have to say 100 degrees or so. there is a widespread acknowledgement among the many activists, politician times wandering the halls at the wynn where the debate will take place that hillary clinton is walking on a tight rope here. she has to be very careful how she approaches all those...
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>> 535 of them. >> you couldn't be -- you couldn't be joe biden with joe biden's career and trajectory if you didn't think that about yourself. the guy's already run twice for president. >> exactly. >> and clearly he thought he was the man for the job. >> here's the other thing. it hasn't been discussed that much. is who would be the people who are leaking the information that he's going to run, he's going to run, he's just gearing up. a lot of that is coming from people who would be part of a biden campaign. there's a lot of self-interest too if you're a potential biden staffer and you're not already on a campaign, it's good for you to start priming the pump for a biden run because that's your future job, right? that's your future campaign. and if you want it even more than he wants it, it's in your -- it's to your benefit to get this going and not let him be forgotten. >> and that i think maybe explains a little bit of the strangeness of the press around this. it's almost become parody at this point. the sort of people are talking about mario cuomo back in '92 and everyone wondered i
>> 535 of them. >> you couldn't be -- you couldn't be joe biden with joe biden's career and trajectory if you didn't think that about yourself. the guy's already run twice for president. >> exactly. >> and clearly he thought he was the man for the job. >> here's the other thing. it hasn't been discussed that much. is who would be the people who are leaking the information that he's going to run, he's going to run, he's just gearing up. a lot of that is coming from...
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strong numbers for joe biden in the key three swing states also, they matched up joe biden against jeb bush. who would you for? in these key swing states joe biden in every one of the states florida by 4, ohio by 9, pennsylvania by 3, he leads jeb bush. looking at the poll he can say i'm electable. check this out. same questions about hillary clinton. all voters in these key three swing states positive or negative view of hillary clinton. look at this. it is negative in every single one of these states. you want a election night, florida, pennsylvania ohio -- excuse me, talking about those states. she is under water in those states right now. also you match her up against jeb bush, again, she loses. it is close and loses to jeb bush in florida right now. she loses to him in ohio right now. she loses to him by 6 in pennsylvania right now. so that is the good news for joe biden. he could look at the numbers, the supporters and say we're more electable. what the clinton people would say is there's a reason he's so popular. the reason is he's not a candidate. the minute he's a candidate th
strong numbers for joe biden in the key three swing states also, they matched up joe biden against jeb bush. who would you for? in these key swing states joe biden in every one of the states florida by 4, ohio by 9, pennsylvania by 3, he leads jeb bush. looking at the poll he can say i'm electable. check this out. same questions about hillary clinton. all voters in these key three swing states positive or negative view of hillary clinton. look at this. it is negative in every single one of...
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history of running and failing. >> let me ask you about joe biden. >> joe biden certainly believes he's got more time. does he? >> well, joining me now is jeremy peters, pluolitics reporr for "the new york times." let's get to what we're hearing that joe biden is leaning towards making the announcement he's running and it could come soon. does that sync up with what you are hearing, and how does the phone call to the president of the firefighters union as well as that e-mail that a friend of his sent to supporters friday, how does that play into these unconfirmed reports? >> i think the people around biden, the people behind this biden superpac are much more enthusiastic about the prospect of his running than biden himself. what i have always heard is that he is still in a deep, deep state of grieving, and for him to be in the right mind-set to run for president, he is just not there yet. now i can be completely wrong and he decides to run and i'll look like a fool. for now if i were betting, i would bet against his running. >> but that phone call in particular to the head of the firefi
history of running and failing. >> let me ask you about joe biden. >> joe biden certainly believes he's got more time. does he? >> well, joining me now is jeremy peters, pluolitics reporr for "the new york times." let's get to what we're hearing that joe biden is leaning towards making the announcement he's running and it could come soon. does that sync up with what you are hearing, and how does the phone call to the president of the firefighters union as well as...
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and she's quoting what she says are joe biden's thoughts. so there's a lot of mystery back then about where did she get the descriptions from, where did she get the thoughts from. politico today say they have multiple sources that this came directly from the vice president himself, that he leaked this to the "new york times," to maureen dowden. it says that in truth, biden effectively placed an ad in the "new york times," saying it was a calculated effort to drum up support for a potential presidential campaign. the vice president's office is bitterly contesting that characterization. this is the statement from the vice president's office. it says, the bottom line on the politico story is that it is categorically false and the characterization is offensive. as you said, though, kate, what they are not denying, they're not confirming or denying is whether he spoke with maureen dowden. if you talk to allies of the vice president today about this story, what you'll get back from them, they'll basically say, yes, he probably spoke with her, but
and she's quoting what she says are joe biden's thoughts. so there's a lot of mystery back then about where did she get the descriptions from, where did she get the thoughts from. politico today say they have multiple sources that this came directly from the vice president himself, that he leaked this to the "new york times," to maureen dowden. it says that in truth, biden effectively placed an ad in the "new york times," saying it was a calculated effort to drum up support...
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so hillary clinton and of course joe biden is very popular. so hillary clinton can't say, what is this joe biden character up to? we have to see, hey, it's up to joe biden but they're confident they can beat him if he gets in the race. >> in terms of timing we said it's a crucial 48 hours to get it done. it's due the filing deadlines. you have georgia coming up. and you have the rest coming up in december. >> that's right. he can rely on he own internal timetable all he wants but a lot of the states are setting the timetables he has to adhere to if he wants to run. >> let's switch gears and talk about huma abedin and trey gowdy was notably absent. only three of the 12 committee members present. how do we read this, considering all of the recent fallout? >> well, i think that the fallout probably played some role. right? the now aborted campaign by kevin mccarthy to be speaker essentially the only thing that a campaign accomplished but kneecapping that committee. and implying that it was a politically motivated economy tee to say, hey, look, yo
so hillary clinton and of course joe biden is very popular. so hillary clinton can't say, what is this joe biden character up to? we have to see, hey, it's up to joe biden but they're confident they can beat him if he gets in the race. >> in terms of timing we said it's a crucial 48 hours to get it done. it's due the filing deadlines. you have georgia coming up. and you have the rest coming up in december. >> that's right. he can rely on he own internal timetable all he wants but a...
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what is joe biden thinking? i can tell you that here at the white house and all throughout washington and in political circles throughout the country the anticipation is very high. again, sources telling nbc news that that decision is very close. you mentioned the benghazi testimony on thursday. there are a couple of other things that are playing into this timing question. one is the number of people who are sitting on the sidelines, people who would go out and be a part of this team, people who would work to make him president. they are obviously waiting to hear. there's a very practical set of deadlines that start in early november. you have to get organized and get ready to get on ballots in various states. but then ultimately there are folks who say look, joe biden is not going to be pressured by anyone no matter what a
what is joe biden thinking? i can tell you that here at the white house and all throughout washington and in political circles throughout the country the anticipation is very high. again, sources telling nbc news that that decision is very close. you mentioned the benghazi testimony on thursday. there are a couple of other things that are playing into this timing question. one is the number of people who are sitting on the sidelines, people who would go out and be a part of this team, people...