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again, the focus that david pecker is here to tell the story that, number one, they used david pecker and the "national enquirer" to influence the 2016 election and that, number two, that they sought after these negative stories alleging extramarital affairs with donald trump in order to keep them from the american public before november of 2016, chris. >> okay. paul, trump's defense drilled in again today into the words standard in questioning pecker, they drew that running negative stories like one on trump's opponents was standard because it was good for business, but in redirect, steinglass also now honed in on that term. he asked is it standard to be negotiating with a presidential candidate's fixer on an agreement and is a $1 million liquidated damages clause on a $30,000 source agreement standard operating procedure. who's being more effective on the use of the word standard and why does it matter so much? >> so i think they were both making decent points. this trial is about trump's motive in arranging this hush money payment, hush money payments aren't illegal unless you're d
again, the focus that david pecker is here to tell the story that, number one, they used david pecker and the "national enquirer" to influence the 2016 election and that, number two, that they sought after these negative stories alleging extramarital affairs with donald trump in order to keep them from the american public before november of 2016, chris. >> okay. paul, trump's defense drilled in again today into the words standard in questioning pecker, they drew that running...
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>> david pecker? >> yeah. >> i felt there were some partings of what he was saying were credible, but he was definitely more inclined to help the former president. >> definitely sounded pro trump throughout his entire thing. >> what was it he said or what was it about his demeanor, hope, that made you think he wanted to help donald trump? >> throughout his entire interview basically, he was talking a lot about, oh, yes, they were, we were referring to the boss, mr. trump. and lots of pro trump language throughout his entire argument. and social studies class, we learn a lot about bias and bias in the media and bias in all different sorts of stories. so it was very interesting to hear how someone actually in court was showing the same bias that we've seen in the media sometimes. >> testimony, also -- >> go ahead, owen. sorry. >> okay. his testimony also reflected how crucial this whole case michael cohen is and will be when he takes the stand in a few weeks. >> i have to ask you both very quickly, what
>> david pecker? >> yeah. >> i felt there were some partings of what he was saying were credible, but he was definitely more inclined to help the former president. >> definitely sounded pro trump throughout his entire thing. >> what was it he said or what was it about his demeanor, hope, that made you think he wanted to help donald trump? >> throughout his entire interview basically, he was talking a lot about, oh, yes, they were, we were referring to the...
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he also tried to catch david pecker in some inconsistencies in here his testimony, david pecker has been cooperating with prosecutors, the federal prosecutors and the district attorney's office for several years now. and so they were focusing on remember, the testimony about a january 2017 meeting at trump tower that david pecker walked into all donald trump was finishing up a meeting with some of with the f then cia director james comey and others and during this meeting is when david pecker testified that there was that he had a conversation so what donald trump donald trump thanked him for taking care of the doorman's story in the karen mcdougal story so donald trump's attorneys pressed him on notes from previous interview had given with investigators. and in that interview notes he said, according to the fbi's nodes, that david pecker told them that donald trump did not express any gratitude david pecker dug in on that today saying that the fbi knows were wrong and that his testimony over the past few days is that correct accurate testimony? so a lot of back and forth over different
he also tried to catch david pecker in some inconsistencies in here his testimony, david pecker has been cooperating with prosecutors, the federal prosecutors and the district attorney's office for several years now. and so they were focusing on remember, the testimony about a january 2017 meeting at trump tower that david pecker walked into all donald trump was finishing up a meeting with some of with the f then cia director james comey and others and during this meeting is when david pecker...
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and david, you're thoughts about what we're learning for the first time from david pecker's testimony? >> it is pretty stark. to think about practices that were in affect at the national enquirer. if you stopped someone on the street and said is the gossip tabloid going be an avatar or have secret agendas made for the stories they public or don't publish. and people thought gosh, there might be some give and take maybe there is some favoritism. but what we've learned about here is that this tabloid, that is consumed by millions of people, often on check out stands and often at home, often these days online, shared on social media, was picking and killing what stories to publish on the basis of what would help a friend ofity publisher david pecker, a friend by the name of donald trump and according to pecker's own testimony, what might embarrass his presidential came in that 2016 cycle. pecker was on board in 2016 walking through stories with michael cohen about what things they should pick to go after, hillary clinton and he had previous thought about what kind of stories earlier in t
and david, you're thoughts about what we're learning for the first time from david pecker's testimony? >> it is pretty stark. to think about practices that were in affect at the national enquirer. if you stopped someone on the street and said is the gossip tabloid going be an avatar or have secret agendas made for the stories they public or don't publish. and people thought gosh, there might be some give and take maybe there is some favoritism. but what we've learned about here is that...
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david pecker will be back. he spoke for about 30 minutes or so in testimony yesterday after those opening statements. anything that stuck out to you and just how important is he to this case? >> david pecker may in fact be the people's star witness and not michael cohen. david pecker may ultimately be a better witness for a few different reasons. number one, he has some baggage, but he doesn't have the baggage of a michael cohen. number two, he's going to lay the foundation of this pre-existing relationship and this catch and kill arrangement. and that's going to match up to a lot of documents that the state is going to introduce. number three, he was a friend of donald trump's. so his testimony may be more credible for that reason. he may be testifying about something we're not anticipating, and it might be about a direct conversation with donald trump, because, remember, that there were these entries in business records can be shown from the records with the state, with the people need to show is donald trump
david pecker will be back. he spoke for about 30 minutes or so in testimony yesterday after those opening statements. anything that stuck out to you and just how important is he to this case? >> david pecker may in fact be the people's star witness and not michael cohen. david pecker may ultimately be a better witness for a few different reasons. number one, he has some baggage, but he doesn't have the baggage of a michael cohen. number two, he's going to lay the foundation of this...
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news gold for david pecker because that was his stock in trade. they were trying to portray that this was just more of that and in the opening statements, donald trump's lawyers actually said that they tried to -- trying to influence -- is democracy. that's what people try and do. what was different about this and what the government lawyers were showing is that during the election, the arrangements that were reach and karen google who is the playmate that donald trump had a relationship with, nine months or a year, these payments that went to karen make google and others were larger than usual. the national enquirer national -- have a limit of $10,000. these went well over that. in the case of karen mcdougal, they had a contract with her and that was according to david pecker solely to keep her story off the market but she did in signing that get other things with the agreement. she got, you know, she would have a column, she would get on the cover of a magazine. david pecker said that was all window dressing for the payment to keep her quiet but
news gold for david pecker because that was his stock in trade. they were trying to portray that this was just more of that and in the opening statements, donald trump's lawyers actually said that they tried to -- trying to influence -- is democracy. that's what people try and do. what was different about this and what the government lawyers were showing is that during the election, the arrangements that were reach and karen google who is the playmate that donald trump had a relationship with,...
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pecker helped more. >> david pecker definitely helped the prosecution out because they laid out david pecker hur laid out the foundation. he gave us the background information, and he also changed the narrative. this is not just hush money case. we're talking about the purpose of this money. of killing di stories. what's that help this campaign? and you're hearing it from someone that i think was relatable to this jury. i think the jury's going to find him credible, find, and believable. so mendel, he was engaging in these catching kill schemes and when we go into a supermarket used to see the national enquirer be like, oh, my god. and now we know how that gets to be the front page of the paper. you got the information that this is exactly how it worked out when it came to donald trump and when it came to michael cohen. and this is something that i think the jury in plain terms, are able to digest and they don't know how to apply this information. but shortly after closing arguments and though extra read back to get more of his testimony, read back, there'll be able to put it all toge
pecker helped more. >> david pecker definitely helped the prosecution out because they laid out david pecker hur laid out the foundation. he gave us the background information, and he also changed the narrative. this is not just hush money case. we're talking about the purpose of this money. of killing di stories. what's that help this campaign? and you're hearing it from someone that i think was relatable to this jury. i think the jury's going to find him credible, find, and believable....
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david pecker. we'll be right back how would really happened sunday at nine on cnn. >> you know, when i take the bike out like this, all my stress is just melt away. >> i hear that is bad. boy can fix anything yeah. >> tough day at work, nice cruises sorts. >> you write out when i'm writing, i'm not even thinking about my painful cavity he shouldn't ignore it. and every time i get stressed about having to pay my bills hop. on the bike, man, i'll come on. >> you got to pay your bills. >> you don't have to worry about anything when you're protected by america's number one motorcycle insurer? >> well, you definitely do those things aren't related so that is a vibrating pain at morgan stanley old-school hard work meets ball new thinking to help you see untapped possibilities and relax leslie, work with you to make them real okay. yeah, we got orders coming in, starting a business is never easy. a star near eight months pregnant that's a different story. sorry. >> i couldn't slow down. we were starting a
david pecker. we'll be right back how would really happened sunday at nine on cnn. >> you know, when i take the bike out like this, all my stress is just melt away. >> i hear that is bad. boy can fix anything yeah. >> tough day at work, nice cruises sorts. >> you write out when i'm writing, i'm not even thinking about my painful cavity he shouldn't ignore it. and every time i get stressed about having to pay my bills hop. on the bike, man, i'll come on. >> you got...
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so the last question asked of david pecker today was, does he believe trump does david pecker believes that donald trump cares about his family, right? there have been a lot of questions about why trump would do these things. was it to protect his family or as pecker said? was it for the campaign, but the last question, does trump care about his family? pecker replies, quote, of of course i do think that cares about his family. that surprised you very much so because trump thinks about trump and his family clearly throughout all this is almost been window the dressing just so it makes him look like he's a family guy, but his focus is always been what's best for me. >> that's why he picks the pupil who works with and that's why he's been doing when he just doing with the power play. so the family for politician, obviously it's unnecessary optic to have but his feeling towards them. no, they're just tools for him to advance his own cause and that moment surprised you mean bernardo at the end of the testimony of david pecker and i guess it's in a sense, it's hard to put it together hi the
so the last question asked of david pecker today was, does he believe trump does david pecker believes that donald trump cares about his family, right? there have been a lot of questions about why trump would do these things. was it to protect his family or as pecker said? was it for the campaign, but the last question, does trump care about his family? pecker replies, quote, of of course i do think that cares about his family. that surprised you very much so because trump thinks about trump...
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and david pecker. so we'll see if we could see a second witness begin to take the stand even tomorrow afternoon, even better. >> one of the questions one of the first questions they asked for comments was so ami isn't a charity organization, is you're making a profit off of all of this really making him seem like this is about greed and that's all to get the jury thinking that they don't like this person. >> yeah. important point. it was interesting. i thought that kaitlyn that david pecker testified about a call with two top white house staffers at the time who picks and sarah huckabee sanders would that reveal as someone who covered the white house and remembers sarah sanders being at the white house briefing room where obviously all three of us have sat at one point, she had to deny allegations about karen mcdougal citing conversations that she had with donald trump to hear that review still today that there was a call with the national enquirer tabloid king, hope hicks and sarah sanders while they
and david pecker. so we'll see if we could see a second witness begin to take the stand even tomorrow afternoon, even better. >> one of the questions one of the first questions they asked for comments was so ami isn't a charity organization, is you're making a profit off of all of this really making him seem like this is about greed and that's all to get the jury thinking that they don't like this person. >> yeah. important point. it was interesting. i thought that kaitlyn that...
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david pecker ends how he started on the witness stand. right now trump's team continues their cross examination. pecker to remind you is the former ceo of american media. his testimony this week mostly focusing on a quote, catch and kill scheme to buy stories about his then friend donald trump without publishing them effectively keeping them hidden. atactic he used for other celebrities, too. separately bragg's team accused former president trump of violating his gag order four more times. that's in addition to the ten claims already made, by the way. prosecutors meantime want the judge to fine trump and hold him in contempt for every one of those. a hearing on the gag order is set for thursday, may two, trump speaking this morning before entering the courtroom. >> we're doing very well in this trial. everybody knows it. yesterday was a big day. yesterday went very well in this courthouse. it should be over. the case is over. you heard what was said and the case should be over. but you will have to make that determination. i think we have
david pecker ends how he started on the witness stand. right now trump's team continues their cross examination. pecker to remind you is the former ceo of american media. his testimony this week mostly focusing on a quote, catch and kill scheme to buy stories about his then friend donald trump without publishing them effectively keeping them hidden. atactic he used for other celebrities, too. separately bragg's team accused former president trump of violating his gag order four more times....
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>> well, what david -- david pecker did was he contextualize the whole story. you set the table for the prosecution's case. remember, this is a guy who printed an awful lot of bs over the years. when he got on the stand, he was a truth teller and came across very well and they could not break him on cross examination. so, the story he told was kind of the prelude to the crime. the crime in this case is alleged to be michael cohen and his boss, their boss, president donald , falsified business documents as part of a scheme to cover up the payment to stormy daniels so that she would not talk just before the election about their affair. it turns out that there was a precedent to all of this. there was a doorman at a owned building who is going to serve as a story about having a love child. the story was not true, but he was paid just so he would not put it out there and hurt . in a more important prelude that we heard a lot about from david , karen mcdougal, who was president donald 's mistress for a 10 month period in 2006 and 2007, she was paid for her story, on
>> well, what david -- david pecker did was he contextualize the whole story. you set the table for the prosecution's case. remember, this is a guy who printed an awful lot of bs over the years. when he got on the stand, he was a truth teller and came across very well and they could not break him on cross examination. so, the story he told was kind of the prelude to the crime. the crime in this case is alleged to be michael cohen and his boss, their boss, president donald , falsified...
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david pecker responded, that's right. of course, at the heart of the charges here, falsifying business records, is specifically the stormy daniels payment and the reimbursement of michael cohen by donald trump. and what david pecker is now saying is that he never intended to be a part of the stormy daniels story here in the first place. another aspect of this here is the fact that they are going through some of the prior meetings that david pecker had testified about. one of them that they're currently discussing now is david pecker on january of 2017 walking into a trump tower meeting, just weeks before donald trump was sworn in as president, a meeting that included the likes of reince priebus, sean spicer and james comey and they're getting into the gritty details of exactly what david pecker's role is a part of all of these meetings was and the extent to which donald trump was using these opportunities to ensure the silence of some of these key figures. jose? >> this is a continuing issue, this meeting and as well as o
david pecker responded, that's right. of course, at the heart of the charges here, falsifying business records, is specifically the stormy daniels payment and the reimbursement of michael cohen by donald trump. and what david pecker is now saying is that he never intended to be a part of the stormy daniels story here in the first place. another aspect of this here is the fact that they are going through some of the prior meetings that david pecker had testified about. one of them that they're...
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. >> david pecker. the first witness in the new york case. >> all right, good morning, everybody. welcome to "morning joe." it's wednesday, april 24th. along with willie and me we have a member of the "the new york times" editorial board maya and sam stein. our top story has to do with pecker. >> i think you're enjoying saying his name. testimony in donald trump's hush money criminal trial is scheduled to resume tomorrow after several key developments in court yesterday. first, the judge held a hearing at the start of tuesday's proceedings on whether the former president had violated his gag order. prosecutors have asked the judge to fine him $1,000 for each violation. trump's attorney said he hasn't violated the order. he was, quote, being careful about complying with the order. but the judge expressed extreme frustration with that argument, telling his attorney saying, quote, losing all credibility with the court. any violation of the gag order in articles he repost to social media is unintentional. >
. >> david pecker. the first witness in the new york case. >> all right, good morning, everybody. welcome to "morning joe." it's wednesday, april 24th. along with willie and me we have a member of the "the new york times" editorial board maya and sam stein. our top story has to do with pecker. >> i think you're enjoying saying his name. testimony in donald trump's hush money criminal trial is scheduled to resume tomorrow after several key developments in...
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to a friend after david pecker's testimony, as somebody who knows david pecker and donald trump. i said, it's interesting. david pecker just blew this case wide open against donald trump. yet, nothing on truth social. my friend started laughing and said, "you will never hear donald trump say anything bad about david pecker." then suggested that, you know, he knows a lot more about donald trump than donald trump would want people to know. listen to this. again, after this guy just blew open the case against him -- >> became the key witness. >> -- they asked him about david pecker. trump, "david has been very nice, very nice. he's a nice guy." rev, any theories? >> well, the theory is -- >> don't wander too far out there. >> -- whoever your friend is i think is correct. when donald trump says david has been nice, when david got on the stand and just about nailed his legal coffin in terms of this trial, it is because he knows he's been nice not to tell all the other things he may know about donald trump. >> yeah. >> if you have a guy that knows 100 things and he only testifies to te
to a friend after david pecker's testimony, as somebody who knows david pecker and donald trump. i said, it's interesting. david pecker just blew this case wide open against donald trump. yet, nothing on truth social. my friend started laughing and said, "you will never hear donald trump say anything bad about david pecker." then suggested that, you know, he knows a lot more about donald trump than donald trump would want people to know. listen to this. again, after this guy just blew...
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david pecker's cross examination continues today. what else should trump's team do to try to explain to the jury that this was not illegal? >> they are doing a good job largely allowing the case to collapse on its own weight. this case thus far is about a good a model as prosecution as the titanic is a good model for navigation. i don't understand why they would start with pecker. in my view he is disastrous. first of all, i'm speaking as a criminal defense attorney. what most good prosecutors, if they know the criminal defense attorney will bring up something damaging will bring it up themselves. the most damaging aspect of pecker's testimony is that he did the same thing for a wide variety of celebrities. that is really quite damaging. and by not revealing that to the jury in your direct, there is a sense that there was a hiding of the ball here. you can lose credibility with the jury. that is really quite remarkable. pecker said that he was doing this for trump decades before he ran for office. he said he did this for people like
david pecker's cross examination continues today. what else should trump's team do to try to explain to the jury that this was not illegal? >> they are doing a good job largely allowing the case to collapse on its own weight. this case thus far is about a good a model as prosecution as the titanic is a good model for navigation. i don't understand why they would start with pecker. in my view he is disastrous. first of all, i'm speaking as a criminal defense attorney. what most good...
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let's talk about the role of david pecker. his credibility, once it's evaluated by the jurors -- he was the first witness and the feature witness of the trial so far -- is to take some of the burden to of michael cohen, who is obviously -- has damage connected to him being convicted and having admitted to perjury in the past and served time for that. >> right. that's baked into the calculation with michael cohen. he is a difficult witness. the government can't hug him too hard. he was donald trump's pick not prosecutor's pick. we are seeing this process that defense lawyer goes through in cross-examination. as vaughn said, they can't argue the evidence when they are cross-examining the witness. they are collecting coins that they hope will turn out to be valuable in closing argument when they can go back and argue to the jury. you can't really believe these people, they are not credible. >> the other thing, catherine, is this gag order hearing. judge merchan set it for next thursday. that's another week before dealing with the
let's talk about the role of david pecker. his credibility, once it's evaluated by the jurors -- he was the first witness and the feature witness of the trial so far -- is to take some of the burden to of michael cohen, who is obviously -- has damage connected to him being convicted and having admitted to perjury in the past and served time for that. >> right. that's baked into the calculation with michael cohen. he is a difficult witness. the government can't hug him too hard. he was...
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david pecker is an accountant. sitting in court and watching him and listening to him, i was incredibly taken with how meticulous and detailed he was able to lay this out for the jury. i know the story very well. i am invested and i worked there. i thought to myself leaving court every day, he is doing a brilliant job in setting the table of what actually went on here. >> there were some text messages from dylan howard that were talked about last week. what do you think, if you were to take the stand, people would learn? is there more people would learn that we didn't learn last week? >> where dylan howard will play a role is when we get to michael cohen and the stormy daniels situation. david visibility into a lot of this but as david pecker himself testified last week, when it gets to the stormy daniels matter, this is where the time line is crucial here, that's going on after that access hollywood tape where they are panicking. there worried about the impact of that tape on female voters and then stormy daniels
david pecker is an accountant. sitting in court and watching him and listening to him, i was incredibly taken with how meticulous and detailed he was able to lay this out for the jury. i know the story very well. i am invested and i worked there. i thought to myself leaving court every day, he is doing a brilliant job in setting the table of what actually went on here. >> there were some text messages from dylan howard that were talked about last week. what do you think, if you were to...
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i felt like david pecker encapsulates maga world. he keeps drifting and completely dupes his followers, but then they said there and they still pay homage to him. talk about whether or not you think that this trial, even so far, has been moving the needle in any way in terms of public sentiment when it comes to donald trump. >> yeah, it reminds me of a story i was told by a new yorker whose parents worked for donald trump's contractors. he wasn't always good about paying the contractors and i said, did he pay her parents? he said no, and this guy said i had to sue to get their money. i said okay, well, they got $.50 on the dollar back in the guy says you know what? they voted for trump. why if they believe he cheated them on their money? he said because, if you cheat says he will cheat everybody else on behalf of america, cheat the rest of the world on behalf of america. there is an interesting dynamic. it's a view, of him as somebody who is able to manipulate the system to work the system, bypass the system, whatever it is, that see
i felt like david pecker encapsulates maga world. he keeps drifting and completely dupes his followers, but then they said there and they still pay homage to him. talk about whether or not you think that this trial, even so far, has been moving the needle in any way in terms of public sentiment when it comes to donald trump. >> yeah, it reminds me of a story i was told by a new yorker whose parents worked for donald trump's contractors. he wasn't always good about paying the contractors...
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today. >> so david pecker will be back on the stand. he will be continuing with cross-examinati on. you are expecting that the prosecution to redirect after that, correct absolutely. >> yeah. of course. they get that option before we even maybe see who the next witness is redirected fact, it's very unclear, actually it david pecker will finish today. i mean, it is a full court today, so it's very likely he will, but we don't really quite know the timing just yet but we are waiting to see, like you said, sarah, who is the next witness, is it someone who deals with the accounting inside ami or within the trump organization or is it michael cohen, another quite arguably the star witness for the prosecution so we'll have to wait and see. of course, we don't know because they are not giving away that witness lists or rather the order of that witness list. this ahead of time because of the fear that donald trump will post about them on social media and such. so we'll standby all right. >> brand jin grass standing by for court to resume. appre
today. >> so david pecker will be back on the stand. he will be continuing with cross-examinati on. you are expecting that the prosecution to redirect after that, correct absolutely. >> yeah. of course. they get that option before we even maybe see who the next witness is redirected fact, it's very unclear, actually it david pecker will finish today. i mean, it is a full court today, so it's very likely he will, but we don't really quite know the timing just yet but we are waiting...
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now i'm hearing it confirmed by david pecker in court. now my friends are saying, sorry, you were not a conspiracy theorists. there's one candidate up in the polls, we're running a hit piece. and it seemed like it was coordination. i had nothing to go on. then you had the other thing with these catch and kills. we're going through the process with a doorman, paid him $30,000, which is a large amount of money to pay for a story, especially a story we're not even running. then karen mcdougal. she has an incredible story about an affair with donald trump. i thought, brilliant, this is the kind of scoop i came here to break. when are we running it? we're not. david pecker has bought the story to kill it. i thought, what world are we living in ? >> did you ever want to ask why? >> he said this is something david has decided, and that's that. >> you said in that you regret your three years there. was it around catch and kill, or donald trump? what was the source of that regret? >> i, you know, had a journalism life before american media. i was
now i'm hearing it confirmed by david pecker in court. now my friends are saying, sorry, you were not a conspiracy theorists. there's one candidate up in the polls, we're running a hit piece. and it seemed like it was coordination. i had nothing to go on. then you had the other thing with these catch and kills. we're going through the process with a doorman, paid him $30,000, which is a large amount of money to pay for a story, especially a story we're not even running. then karen mcdougal. she...
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former "national enquirer" ceo david pecker. the defense spent hours trying to trip him up, catch him in contradictions, even introducing several instances where they say pecker's recollection of key events had changed over time. but the prosecution got the last word before lunch, getting pecker to admit that karen mcdougal's story would have been "national enquirer" gold, and his decision not to run it was purely to help donald trump. joining me now, nbc's vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse, former federal prosecutor paul butler is back with me. former assistant new york attorney general tristan snell is in studio, and jeremy soland, criminal defense attorney and former manhattan prosecutor. i'm going to start with you because you're a defense attorney and you're new to this table. it's a challenge, right, no matter how many times the defense keeps going back and back and back to david pecker, trying to show this wasn't about the campaign, which is what you did, this is standard operating procedure, they said that over and
former "national enquirer" ceo david pecker. the defense spent hours trying to trip him up, catch him in contradictions, even introducing several instances where they say pecker's recollection of key events had changed over time. but the prosecution got the last word before lunch, getting pecker to admit that karen mcdougal's story would have been "national enquirer" gold, and his decision not to run it was purely to help donald trump. joining me now, nbc's vaughn hillyard...
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so phil, david pecker back on the stand right now. being questioned about michael cohen, as we said, after a major clash over donald trump's gag order. how is this all sitting with the trump campaign? how does this affect their ability to raise money? they're behind on the money raising, and to get him out on the trail? >> well, andrea, the campaign is in that courtroom for donald trump, and you know, one of the arguments that his defense attorneys made in court this morning is that he's not violating this gag order according to them when he comments on the trial on social media, but that's rather part of his campaign that when he makes comments about this case, about the judge, about jurors, et cetera, that's part of his campaign activity in the 2024 race. and so obviously, trump is going to be there in court for the next several weeks. that's where the campaign for him is taking place. and he seems to be leaning into this strategy of portraying himself as unfairly persecuted as a way to raise more money from his supporters and grow
so phil, david pecker back on the stand right now. being questioned about michael cohen, as we said, after a major clash over donald trump's gag order. how is this all sitting with the trump campaign? how does this affect their ability to raise money? they're behind on the money raising, and to get him out on the trail? >> well, andrea, the campaign is in that courtroom for donald trump, and you know, one of the arguments that his defense attorneys made in court this morning is that he's...
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this is conspiracy between david pecker, donald trump, and michael cohen. and that they all got together conspiracy requires two or more people to get together, have an agreement and the agreement is to do something unlawful. and what they're saying is what they were doing that was unlawful, was they were unlawfully trying to influence the election. so this is all part of the scheme. the criminal scheme, and they have set up that there was a meeting where this was explicitly discussed, right. so even though this was a matter of as you're saying, this is how things were done, that there was a meeting that they said, look, we're i'm running for president and this is what we're going to do. that's what the prosecution says happened. so pecker is not done yet. he comes back to the stand when trial resumes. so how do you think he will do under cross-examination without will be really any interesting test because he comes across as we've seen, very smooth and savvy. and let me just tell you what the facts are. he's never responded to the threats being attacked. t
this is conspiracy between david pecker, donald trump, and michael cohen. and that they all got together conspiracy requires two or more people to get together, have an agreement and the agreement is to do something unlawful. and what they're saying is what they were doing that was unlawful, was they were unlawfully trying to influence the election. so this is all part of the scheme. the criminal scheme, and they have set up that there was a meeting where this was explicitly discussed, right....
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what you heard from david pecker was about that agreement, that donald trump, david pecker, and michael cohen had to unlawfully influence the election. and they talked about and testified about this 2016 meeting where they anticipated that women may come forward and have damaging stories about trump that could hurt the campaign. david pecker testified that he was going to be the eyes and ears of this campaign, and that he was going to alert michael cohen and the campaign about anything that would be damaging so, to make sure those stories didn't see the light of day. however, what is really significant, for the conversations pecker testified, dealing directly with donald trump. both before the election and after the election. before the election, testified about talking to him about the story, trying to kill the story with karen mcdougal. after the election, he testified about conversations where donald trump thanked him for making sure those damaging stories did not see the light of day. the defense tried to act as though this was all business as usual, but that really backfired, becau
what you heard from david pecker was about that agreement, that donald trump, david pecker, and michael cohen had to unlawfully influence the election. and they talked about and testified about this 2016 meeting where they anticipated that women may come forward and have damaging stories about trump that could hurt the campaign. david pecker testified that he was going to be the eyes and ears of this campaign, and that he was going to alert michael cohen and the campaign about anything that...
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and that story is david pecker were telling. we're not stories about a likable person. >> how does david pecker come off on the stand to the jury? do you think i mean, what does he is draining? usually cheerful and chipper through this process. >> like laughs, sometimes very loudly, which good for him, like he's not the one on trial. >> but it is his longtime friend. >> they've been friends for decades. he he concedes very cheerfully, again that trump was very good for his business. >> he he admitted i needed trump to sell magazines. >> and that's part of why he made this deal with trump during the 2016 campaign. >> i keep obsessing of what must be going through down from his mind, sitting there behind this defense desk watching his former sort of friend, who is a keeper of probably a lot more secrets about him then he has lead on what must be going through don trump's mind. i mean, nothing is is when donald trump became president, i mean, this was someone who had a lot of dirt on donald trump and knew a lot about him and had a
and that story is david pecker were telling. we're not stories about a likable person. >> how does david pecker come off on the stand to the jury? do you think i mean, what does he is draining? usually cheerful and chipper through this process. >> like laughs, sometimes very loudly, which good for him, like he's not the one on trial. >> but it is his longtime friend. >> they've been friends for decades. he he concedes very cheerfully, again that trump was very good for...
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david pecker is another one. so you know, everything trump touches, you know, it's kind of the anti-midas touch. and we're seeing that play out in real time in the courtroom. i really do wish this american public could see it. >> i agree. it was really instructive to be there. and speaking of michael cohen, he's been on this show dozens of times, a lot, and one thing that struck me, he told me, he told this audience, he told msnbc's audience the same story for years. and now, everything he said you have david pecker today backing him up. to a point, i mean, literally, he's been telling this story consistently. and so now what's happened is he's already been backed up by david pecker who was the other person in the room making this deal who said yeah, we did do a catch and kill deal. yeah, it was about the election. michael cohen had a campaign email even though he was not on the campaign. no reason for him to have a campaign email. and david pecker said, you can release these salacious stories that would have sol
david pecker is another one. so you know, everything trump touches, you know, it's kind of the anti-midas touch. and we're seeing that play out in real time in the courtroom. i really do wish this american public could see it. >> i agree. it was really instructive to be there. and speaking of michael cohen, he's been on this show dozens of times, a lot, and one thing that struck me, he told me, he told this audience, he told msnbc's audience the same story for years. and now, everything...
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david pecker and trump. that the conversation during which and said trump said to him, yet again, how is karen? >> is the implication of "house or girl," and "how's karen?" is she holding to agreement? >> is she and is she happy with what you've offered. talked on direct about the fact that karen mcdougal thought this was a serious arrangement. she was trying to forward her career and wanted to do red carpet interviews, she wanted to write columns in some of the fitness magazines, so at one point, david pecker has her come to new york and they have a meeting where he hears her out about her various complaints about her contractual arrangement with american media. why? he wants to come in his words, keep her in the family. hold her close. >> it's sad and sordid. i did think, as i was reading our notes on the internal slack , because we don't have the transcript, that the john edwards case is like, the closest parallel we have particularly because that ended up in acquittal, because that was this question of w
david pecker and trump. that the conversation during which and said trump said to him, yet again, how is karen? >> is the implication of "house or girl," and "how's karen?" is she holding to agreement? >> is she and is she happy with what you've offered. talked on direct about the fact that karen mcdougal thought this was a serious arrangement. she was trying to forward her career and wanted to do red carpet interviews, she wanted to write columns in some of the...
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>> reporter: this is the second day for david pecker on the stand. yesterday he was only able to testify for about 30 minutes. we are about five minutes into his testimony here today with the jury back in the jury box. i can tell you that the prosecution is currently going through the early meetings of donald trump and david pecker. of course, the former publisher of "the national enquirer," who is a crucial witness to the prosecution dating back to the meeting between michael cohen and donald trump and david pecker, when they concocted the catch and kill scheme. what the prosecution is doing in real time is asking david pecker when he first met donald trump. he's now telling the story of back in the 1980s at mar-a-lago when he met mr. trump, and he pointed to defendant trump in the courtroom, and notably he said their relationship became closer in the 2000s, naming donald trump's "the apprentice," when he was on air with the popular television show, the two struck up a mutually beneficial relationship, and it was quite clear according to david pecke
>> reporter: this is the second day for david pecker on the stand. yesterday he was only able to testify for about 30 minutes. we are about five minutes into his testimony here today with the jury back in the jury box. i can tell you that the prosecution is currently going through the early meetings of donald trump and david pecker. of course, the former publisher of "the national enquirer," who is a crucial witness to the prosecution dating back to the meeting between michael...
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court resumes tomorrow. >> so david pecker is back on the stand tomorrow. one of the pieces that came out in the prosecution's opening but we haven't gotten to it in his testimony yet is the fact that after these payments were made from ami to dino the doorman and to karen mcdougal, after the election, they were released from their ndas. that is critical because, again, what was the purpose of these hush money payments, just to make a hush money payment, it's not illegal, right? but to do it to influence the election and when they're above certain limits, that's what makes it an illegal campaign contribution. so the fact that these were for the purpose of the campaign is critical, and when you have these ndas being released right after the election saying, okay, go ahead, talk as much as you want now, it's very clear what the purpose of the payments were. it was for the campaign. like, you look at the john edwards' case, right, where there was an acquittal on hush money payments. there were hush money payments there being made after the election. that's par
court resumes tomorrow. >> so david pecker is back on the stand tomorrow. one of the pieces that came out in the prosecution's opening but we haven't gotten to it in his testimony yet is the fact that after these payments were made from ami to dino the doorman and to karen mcdougal, after the election, they were released from their ndas. that is critical because, again, what was the purpose of these hush money payments, just to make a hush money payment, it's not illegal, right? but to do...
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i think the other thing is that david pecker really explained the insides of the scheme. in other words, he explained that why it is that the national enquirer was paying money for the doorman scheme. he was paying money for the karen mcdougal scheme but at some point they said, you we're done being the bank. we are no longer sort of your bank for paying off these people in the caching kill& that explains why it is that michael cohen had to take out this home equity loan that we were hearing about just as the testimony was ending today and explain that difference. now, there's why it is that the national enquirer wasn't paying for this third and final scheme with respect to stormy daniels, but it had to be paid for by michael cohen. so i think that is a very important new detail that we heard that helped flesh out the scheme that we, the basics of which we knew about your book breaks down the very colorful cast of characters in this specific case, but not necessarily trump's assisted rhona graff and michael cohen's banker, gary farro. these lower profile voices set up the
i think the other thing is that david pecker really explained the insides of the scheme. in other words, he explained that why it is that the national enquirer was paying money for the doorman scheme. he was paying money for the karen mcdougal scheme but at some point they said, you we're done being the bank. we are no longer sort of your bank for paying off these people in the caching kill& that explains why it is that michael cohen had to take out this home equity loan that we were...
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let's start now with the testimony of david pecker. of course, explain why prosecutors called him as their first went. sure. and there's no science briana as to why you'd ever put a witness on you want someone who's palling and got something to say and david pecker is exactly that in this case, he's a former publisher of the national enquirer and was said to be in acknowledged being involved in an effort to stop this embarrassing conduct about foreign president trump from getting public ahead of the 2016 election. now there's a long history of the national enquirer number one, pushing out stories that were very favorable to the former president and very critical of his opponents. and that's ted cruz there, senator from texas. he was running against at the time a number of critical articles of hillary clinton senator at the first lady as well and so that's sort of the national enquirer's role in all of this. and david pecker had a hand in it explain why he's crucial enough that they're calling him considering there is a risk here, which
let's start now with the testimony of david pecker. of course, explain why prosecutors called him as their first went. sure. and there's no science briana as to why you'd ever put a witness on you want someone who's palling and got something to say and david pecker is exactly that in this case, he's a former publisher of the national enquirer and was said to be in acknowledged being involved in an effort to stop this embarrassing conduct about foreign president trump from getting public ahead...
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it just is not david pecker's to tell. he testified that he didn't have direct involvement in the purchase or negotiation of the stormy daniels settlement. to the extent "the enquirer" did at all, it was behind his pack. dylan howard, the chief content officer, got involved in it, even though pecker said an affiliation with a porn star will offend our largest distributor, walmart, and we don't want to get into that. but howard kept getting involved. >> from the white house, donald trump would check in on, quote, our girl, talking about karen mcdougal, and pecker would say, "she's quiet. she's fine," end quote. barbara mcquade, we've entered cross-examination. it began yesterday and will resume later today from trump's legal team. what kind of witness was david pecker for the prosecution? a good way to start? >> oh, i think he was a terrific way to start. you know, he is somebody who is -- has a story to tell. he can establish the timeline. he could begin at the beginning, in august of 2015 when this conspiracy began. and i
it just is not david pecker's to tell. he testified that he didn't have direct involvement in the purchase or negotiation of the stormy daniels settlement. to the extent "the enquirer" did at all, it was behind his pack. dylan howard, the chief content officer, got involved in it, even though pecker said an affiliation with a porn star will offend our largest distributor, walmart, and we don't want to get into that. but howard kept getting involved. >> from the white house,...
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they established that david pecker still likes donald trump. and that's a good thing because you have michael cohen and other people who very clearly have to be viewed with at least some questions about the personal animus that will come up on cross. here the jury was treated to a very simple fact, this guy this was transactional. he says nothing personal against him, just business. and that makes him a stronger witness against trump. >> yes. >> after the direct examination of david pecker concluded today, the cross-examination started, so the trump lawyers got to start asking david pecker hostile questions effectively and that had some really interesting stuff. we'll be looking at that right after this. stay with us. ng at that right after this stay with us have any idea? that they can sell their life insurance policy for cash? so they're basically sitting on a goldmine? i don't think they have a clue. that's crazy! well, not everyone knows coventry's helped thousands of people sell their policies for cash. even term policies. i can't believe
they established that david pecker still likes donald trump. and that's a good thing because you have michael cohen and other people who very clearly have to be viewed with at least some questions about the personal animus that will come up on cross. here the jury was treated to a very simple fact, this guy this was transactional. he says nothing personal against him, just business. and that makes him a stronger witness against trump. >> yes. >> after the direct examination of david...
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, just your thoughts on the importance of david pecker. based on your reporting, how much will pecker be able to contribute to the inner workings of the trump campaign, certainly the trump mindset at those just final weeks before the election? >> well, i think two things. pecker certainly establishes for the jurors sort of the things they were doing with stormy daniels was not something they invented, catch and kill, a tabloid would pay for a salacious story and not one it. that is something that had been going on for a long time. they had done it for trump before. certainly was a big part of his business model at the "national enquirer." he'll establish that and lay out for people what the m.o. was and the intention was. that gives you a sense of the cover up that was going on. the other thing that's important is he's not michael cohen. michael cohen will be able to bring the jurors inside the discussions of the trump organization. he has his own credibility problems. he went to jail for lying. i think in this case to have somebody else c
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maybe that's a lesson trump learned about david pecker. you don't want to create enemies when you don't have to. pecker didn't want to be there, but he's under a nonprosecution agreement, an immunity deal, and on subpoena where he had to testify. perhaps that's part of it, too. >> tara, your take on trump's comments on pecker. the psychology of donald trump trying to assess and analyze the kind of information david pecker can reveal about him speaks to what david pecker knows about donald trump. >> absolutely. this is a multi-decade relationship. this is the tip of the iceberg. trump has had his hands in all kinds of salacious things over the years, and david pecker controlled a lot of that cremation flow. so it's a transactional relationship. donald trump may be a lot of things, but he's not stupid when it comes to knowing where his bread is buttered, or making sure who doesn't get on his backside, when he can control it. the michael relationship, with michael cohen, he did a lot of dirty work for trump, but then michael has seen the ligh
maybe that's a lesson trump learned about david pecker. you don't want to create enemies when you don't have to. pecker didn't want to be there, but he's under a nonprosecution agreement, an immunity deal, and on subpoena where he had to testify. perhaps that's part of it, too. >> tara, your take on trump's comments on pecker. the psychology of donald trump trying to assess and analyze the kind of information david pecker can reveal about him speaks to what david pecker knows about donald...
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where michael cohen and trump and david pecker had this agreement where david pecker would be the eyes and ears of the campaign and look out for those negative stories. give cohen a heads up and try to suppress it. so it's important he is the lead off witness because it sets the stage. he's the one, of course he was in charge of at the head of ami, in charge of the national enquirer. it sets the stage and just sort of provides for the jury. it started as soon as donald trump announced he was running for president. >> charles, does it matter that they were long time friends, associates, people who worked together for a long time? does that give him more credibility? >> i think it does. the prosecutors are going to tie that into their narrative around why you should believe him and why he's credible. i think when you're setting the stage, giving a jury a very clear picture around what's happening, you have to give to the jury a reason why you should be believing these witnesses and their testimony. so for the reasons you've just mentioned, i think that pecker is going to be a very import
where michael cohen and trump and david pecker had this agreement where david pecker would be the eyes and ears of the campaign and look out for those negative stories. give cohen a heads up and try to suppress it. so it's important he is the lead off witness because it sets the stage. he's the one, of course he was in charge of at the head of ami, in charge of the national enquirer. it sets the stage and just sort of provides for the jury. it started as soon as donald trump announced he was...
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pecker's testimony in one of the things is that david pecker had previously told the fbi that donald trump never thanked him for any of the good stories, killing the karen mcdougal story and the dormant story but yesterday on the stand david said he had. these are some of the inconsistencies he pointed out to say maybe he is not as credible as the state would like him to be. >> sandra: all right, carrie, outside the courthouse for us as we expect this will resume shortly we are keeping an eye on that and will get back to that. by the way, john, big guest joining us live. she is a spokesperson for the trump legal team and she has said on the record in recent days during this trial that she is doubtful the court and the jury are going to do the right thing in this trial. she will join us with her thoughts on the latest developments, john. >> john: and with the legal eagles yesterday all the prosecution has to do is convince the jury that something bad happened here. even if there was no underlying crime. it would be good to be talking to alina coming up and as college campuses coming u
pecker's testimony in one of the things is that david pecker had previously told the fbi that donald trump never thanked him for any of the good stories, killing the karen mcdougal story and the dormant story but yesterday on the stand david said he had. these are some of the inconsistencies he pointed out to say maybe he is not as credible as the state would like him to be. >> sandra: all right, carrie, outside the courthouse for us as we expect this will resume shortly we are keeping an...
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david pecker back on the stand to resume testimony for the fourth day. pecker, still a friend of the president, even though they have not talked for a while. he talked about the catch and kill deal and recalled exchanging tips and killing stories as far back as 1998, practice the defense shows was just ordinary. >> today was breathtaking in this room 678. you saw what went on. it was breathtaking, amazing testimony. this is really incredible. it was an incredible day. open your eyes. >> pecker said he bought stories to kill about alleged affairs by arnold schwarzenegger, tiger woods, so when karen mcdougal popped up about her affair, peck er bought that and buried it, too. we did not want this story to embarrass mr. trump or hurt the campaign. he feared he was violating election law. he turned down paying for stormy daniels story she had sex with trump because he said he did not want the enquirer to deal with a porn star. he related how after mr. trump was president, he thanked him for handling karen mcdougal and invited pecker and some editors to the wh
david pecker back on the stand to resume testimony for the fourth day. pecker, still a friend of the president, even though they have not talked for a while. he talked about the catch and kill deal and recalled exchanging tips and killing stories as far back as 1998, practice the defense shows was just ordinary. >> today was breathtaking in this room 678. you saw what went on. it was breathtaking, amazing testimony. this is really incredible. it was an incredible day. open your eyes....
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statements to hear from david pecker? >> good morning, we expect david pecker will be the first witness to testify. the situation here this, donald trump paid stormy daniels to keep her quiet or donald trump and the trump organization simply paid checks to michael cohen for legal expenses. we will hear this in the opening statements. this case against former president opens with charges of filing false business records claiming the alleged payoffs were legal expenses to mr. trump's long-time lawyer and -- >> this is a witch hunt by democratic judges. all over the world they are watching and saying this is a giant witch hunt to hurt the campaign beating the worst president in history. >> david pecker was head of national enquirer. he will likely allege that sc scheme. pecker is expected to testify that former president when running for president was in on the plan, as well as michael cohen, we could get details about that. american media admitted they tried to influence presidential election with those payments. because of
statements to hear from david pecker? >> good morning, we expect david pecker will be the first witness to testify. the situation here this, donald trump paid stormy daniels to keep her quiet or donald trump and the trump organization simply paid checks to michael cohen for legal expenses. we will hear this in the opening statements. this case against former president opens with charges of filing false business records claiming the alleged payoffs were legal expenses to mr. trump's...
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that's where david pecker comes in. david pecker is critical to the establishment of the conspiracy to promote trump's election through unlawful means where at least one act was taken in the direction of those unlawful means. david pecker was there for the formation of the conspiracy. david pecker helped execute the conspiracy. david pecker's payment to karen mcdougal, which he understood would pose campaign finance law problems, was that unlawful means. through david pecker, prosecutors have got an lot of what they needed to establish that this was felonious and not just your everyday garden variety misdemeanor. >> tried to pull back. does the testimony seem to add value to what the d.c. was trying to prove? did we expect pecker to be as strong as he was, or were we looking for that in other witnesses yet to come? >> pecker had a lot of information that we didn't quite know that he would have. namely, he put himself at multiple conversations either with donald trump and michael cohen or with donald trump alone that hel
that's where david pecker comes in. david pecker is critical to the establishment of the conspiracy to promote trump's election through unlawful means where at least one act was taken in the direction of those unlawful means. david pecker was there for the formation of the conspiracy. david pecker helped execute the conspiracy. david pecker's payment to karen mcdougal, which he understood would pose campaign finance law problems, was that unlawful means. through david pecker, prosecutors have...
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david-pecker, i would describe mr. trump is very knowledgeable. i would describe him as a very detail-oriented, i would describe him as an almost, as a micromanager from what i saw, that he looked at every all of the aspects of whatever the issue was. neal katyal , andrew weissman, adam klasfeld, back with us. he's not a micromanager. he doesn't know who is putting what memos on what checks. >> yes, this is the standard defense when you have a leader on trial into the mechanics of the crime, it is a defense in an organized crime case, i was not on the scene, it's the defense, saying i don't know what the paperwork was, it is a standard argument that is made. of course it doesn't help that this is a small family business. we are not talking about enron, or an organized crime family, although there are some analogies that could be made. it's small. he couldn't possibly know will be a tough one given how small the group is, but testimony from a long-time friend who is saying positive things about him, that he is micromanager, is to get evidence for y
david-pecker, i would describe mr. trump is very knowledgeable. i would describe him as a very detail-oriented, i would describe him as an almost, as a micromanager from what i saw, that he looked at every all of the aspects of whatever the issue was. neal katyal , andrew weissman, adam klasfeld, back with us. he's not a micromanager. he doesn't know who is putting what memos on what checks. >> yes, this is the standard defense when you have a leader on trial into the mechanics of the...
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but, first, we start in new york where david pecker testified for the third day. now, what's becoming less clear as the trial wears on is what is the crime? >> today was breathtaking, this room, you saw what went on. it was breath-taking. and amazing testimony. this is a trial that should have never happened. this is a case that should have never been filed. >> laura: joining me now is todd piro, co-anchor of "fox & friends first." todd, i know you were inside the courtroom today. you're witnessing it. what's the biggest take away. >> todd: i can't answer your question, laura, on what the crime is i mean, we have read legal scholars say they can't figure out the crime. but to actually be in the courtroom and watch hour upon hour of testimony, i still don't have an answer. to me, we have had now almost nine years of trump bad and in court today i had about 8 more hours of trump bad. i still don't know what the crime is. >> laura: when you watch the jury in the courtroom, are they rivetted? are their eyes or their attention, does it seem to wander? i'm so jealous th
but, first, we start in new york where david pecker testified for the third day. now, what's becoming less clear as the trial wears on is what is the crime? >> today was breathtaking, this room, you saw what went on. it was breath-taking. and amazing testimony. this is a trial that should have never happened. this is a case that should have never been filed. >> laura: joining me now is todd piro, co-anchor of "fox & friends first." todd, i know you were inside the...
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david pecker . correct. court cannot be back in session until tuesday but the breakdown is happening right now. running me is joyce vance and hugo lowell. we were in new york at the same time for this title. david credibility. he was saying donald trump, he considered to be his mentor. yet, to his credit, even on cross examination by the defense attorney for donald trump, david pecker stood his ground. he held the line and said this was all to help influence the outcome by benefiting donald trump's campaign. >> "the national enquirer" wanted to protect this trump and this came through all through the testimony. it was extremely significant because trump was hoping or trumps lawyers were hoping to a certain extent they would be able to suggest that he was disgruntled, that they hadn't been friends for some time. they didn't have close connections anymore. but, with david pecker going on the stand and say i find as a mentor and i like his business deals and consider him a good guy as far as he was concerned, i
david pecker . correct. court cannot be back in session until tuesday but the breakdown is happening right now. running me is joyce vance and hugo lowell. we were in new york at the same time for this title. david credibility. he was saying donald trump, he considered to be his mentor. yet, to his credit, even on cross examination by the defense attorney for donald trump, david pecker stood his ground. he held the line and said this was all to help influence the outcome by benefiting donald...
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he doesn't seem to have party affiliation with david pecker. it's just about how close to political power he could get. arnold schwarzenegger was part of the general leader publications factory, and he required that in 2002. he came with it, and pecker directed his staff to say, schwarzenegger is forbidden fruit. you will not write bad stories about him. he became the governor of california. there's also a financial aspect to this and that ami was floundering around the time that all of this business was happening, and there was the possibility of investment money coming in, possibly from a sovereign wealth fund. and so packer was courting that at the time. so while these things were happening, it was the sort of perfect storm that made -- that made this make sense for him. and of course, it's speculation, that is sort of what we discovered. >> all right. the documentary, scandalous, the untold story of the national enquirer. people should look it up. it is a couple years old, but it has current relativity today. storm at the brother-in-law of
he doesn't seem to have party affiliation with david pecker. it's just about how close to political power he could get. arnold schwarzenegger was part of the general leader publications factory, and he required that in 2002. he came with it, and pecker directed his staff to say, schwarzenegger is forbidden fruit. you will not write bad stories about him. he became the governor of california. there's also a financial aspect to this and that ami was floundering around the time that all of this...
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david pecker is an accountant. sitting back in court, watching him and listening to him, i was incredibly taken with just how meticulous in detail he was able to lay this out for the jury and i know the story very well, i am vested, i worked there, i'm covering it for "the hollywood reporter." i thought to myself "every day, he is doing a brilliant job and just setting the table of what actually went on here. >> there were some text messages from dylan howard that were talked about. of course, last week. is there, what do you think, if he were to take the stand, people would learn? is there more people would learn that we didn't win last week? >> where dylan howard will play a role is when we get to michael cohen and the stormy daniels situation. david pecker has visibility and a lot of this. as david pecker himself testified last week, when it gets to the stormy daniels matter, which, again, this is where the timing and the timeline is crucial your , that is going on right after the access hollywood tape, where th
david pecker is an accountant. sitting back in court, watching him and listening to him, i was incredibly taken with just how meticulous in detail he was able to lay this out for the jury and i know the story very well, i am vested, i worked there, i'm covering it for "the hollywood reporter." i thought to myself "every day, he is doing a brilliant job and just setting the table of what actually went on here. >> there were some text messages from dylan howard that were...
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david pecker, and who else was in the room, hope hicks. so the story the jury will hear isn't in the chronology that we understand it. because cohen has been public because he went to jail for covering up donald trump's relationships with porn stars and playmates. what the jury is hearing is david pecker's story is trump's best friend who still reveres him and the attorney tells the same story that david pecker told and then he saw the tape. by the time cohen gets up, you'll have to me some guy who has been disparaged so many times, he got david pecker, hope hicks and c-span, that is ludicrous. >> yes and no. i think that is the chief strategy of the d.a. i bet we see him in the middle of the case somewhere, try to get him off quickly. but on the other hand the certainty piece for sure of what the defense will do will try to keep him on the stand, two, three days and as i say, there are -- they are doing it effectively but i don't know if they could circle. >> what if they don't call him. >> that wouldn't happen. >> andrew weissmann, any d
david pecker, and who else was in the room, hope hicks. so the story the jury will hear isn't in the chronology that we understand it. because cohen has been public because he went to jail for covering up donald trump's relationships with porn stars and playmates. what the jury is hearing is david pecker's story is trump's best friend who still reveres him and the attorney tells the same story that david pecker told and then he saw the tape. by the time cohen gets up, you'll have to me some guy...
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for it, but i think it was both for david pecker. i think he was an associate in business person for with donald trump for a very long period of time and then came this crucial critical meeting in 2015, where they formulated this conspiracy to illegally or an awfully allegedly is what the prosecution is going to say interfere with the election and it was all about the election at that point. and we know because one of the things he said was with the doorman that was not we were not able to confirm that story. in fact, we debunked it, but had it been real, we would have released it after the election. it was very clear that what they were doing was about the election and at that point when you're paying, wasn't to protect melania trump. it was about the right if it was, then he wouldn't have released it after the election. he was doing these catch and kills fine. but when it was about the election, those when you're paying people, it's an in-kind donation and you have to declare that at a dangerous point, there and asked him whether y
for it, but i think it was both for david pecker. i think he was an associate in business person for with donald trump for a very long period of time and then came this crucial critical meeting in 2015, where they formulated this conspiracy to illegally or an awfully allegedly is what the prosecution is going to say interfere with the election and it was all about the election at that point. and we know because one of the things he said was with the doorman that was not we were not able to...
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i wanted to go, before david pecker and ask about the opening statement this week. he made bold statements. he basically denied trump's alleged affair with daniels. that's not part of the legal argument in the legal sense, but does that matter and how can that come back to bite him, or can it? >> one thing when you are on trial, in the prosecution or the defense, you need to be extremely careful about what you promise a jury and what happens is both sides listen carefully to that and it will come back, if you have promised something that did not come to play, you're going to hear that. the statement that denying that tryst with stormy daniels, i'm not sure how that will come into evidence, because stormy daniels, is not going to testify, i'm sure the prosecution would love it, and there's no way on god's green earth he will testify so i don't know how that is going to come into play. that's the kind of thing where, he had to say that for his client, he had to say it for the public consumption, and it's going to hurt him. in summation, you are going to hear the state
i wanted to go, before david pecker and ask about the opening statement this week. he made bold statements. he basically denied trump's alleged affair with daniels. that's not part of the legal argument in the legal sense, but does that matter and how can that come back to bite him, or can it? >> one thing when you are on trial, in the prosecution or the defense, you need to be extremely careful about what you promise a jury and what happens is both sides listen carefully to that and it...
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david pecker, donald trump. michael cohen is a staffer to use nicolle wallace's term. he is not a principal in this. you have the national enquirer and you have donald trump, they are making the decisions. that is important and he tells you how it began, how it was carried out and how it ended. he also gives you why it is a felony and why you should care. what i mean by why it is a felony, remember this would be a misdemeanor if it is not to conceal or further some other crime and he tells you it is election fraud. >> full on. >> up one side and down the other. so the only piece that is really missing is sort of the false business records. so the piece that you still need, obviously there are false business records, but you need to have knowledge that donald trump knew that would have to be part of the scheme. that shouldn't be that hard, because if you're trying to keep this secret and david pecker already said he wanted to keep it secret even within the national enquirer. why? because it is a crime. so you are not going to want to have a whole bunch of records thing
david pecker, donald trump. michael cohen is a staffer to use nicolle wallace's term. he is not a principal in this. you have the national enquirer and you have donald trump, they are making the decisions. that is important and he tells you how it began, how it was carried out and how it ended. he also gives you why it is a felony and why you should care. what i mean by why it is a felony, remember this would be a misdemeanor if it is not to conceal or further some other crime and he tells you...