hopkins he writes both and nonfiction both successfully he's published in all the right places. one the major awards and teaches writing at new york university. his two previous nonfiction bestsellers are absolutely american and of course, you end up yourself, which became the basis for the movie the end of the tour. he seems to have had the geographically adventurous research or at least what he is willing to reveal to us. but i would argue he may be the most adventurous of the lot, and i think we hope to spend some time talking to him about that. okay. with that, john, steve. why fort mcmurray? well, fort mcmurray, i will tell you in a moment. but first, i need to acknowledge stephen j. pine. if you don't know who stephen j. pine is, he's this man down here in the dapper corduroy jacket and i spent seven years writing about fire. but you cannot write about fire going through stephen j. pine and he is the most prolific and eloquent chronicler of fire, i think probably who ever lived. he's got a shelf about this wide of amazing about fire all over the world and. richly deserved