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pecker yes, it was. steinglass, then asked, were you aware that expenditures made by corporations for the purpose of influencing an election are unlawful? yes, pecker responded. then steinglass, the prosecutor, asked pecker why he bought mcdougal's story. pecker said, we purchased the story so it wouldn't be published by any other organization. we didn't want the story to embarrass mr. trump or embarrass or hurt the campaign. all of this laying the groundwork for what happened later in 2016 when pecker heard the story about trump and adult film star stormy daniels. keep in mind, pecker heard about it, one day after the "access hollywood" tape exploded the presidential campaign landscape, when it was released and made public. the trump campaign was in frantic damage control mode. pecker said that cohen in that time period asked him to pay for stormy daniels' story and even in that frantic damage control moment pecker refused, telling cohen, quote, i'm not purchasing the story. i'm not going to be involved
pecker yes, it was. steinglass, then asked, were you aware that expenditures made by corporations for the purpose of influencing an election are unlawful? yes, pecker responded. then steinglass, the prosecutor, asked pecker why he bought mcdougal's story. pecker said, we purchased the story so it wouldn't be published by any other organization. we didn't want the story to embarrass mr. trump or embarrass or hurt the campaign. all of this laying the groundwork for what happened later in 2016...
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pecker, increase. how often were you in touch with michael cohen after trump announced his candidacy? pecker, maybe daily. one of the most interesting things that happens today with pecker is what's been public facing trump, cohen, stormy, macdougal. what happened today was trump, pecker, and everybody else. i mean, the chart of the hush money election interference, corporate criminal enterprise totally changed. >> and you really see the impact of pecker and the "national enquirer" and how it plays into kind of the center hub of media, politics, consumerism, and the fact that he's -- obviously, there's legal decisions, but it's a shame. because there was a real, real -- he was -- he was more of a fiction than michael cohen in certain ways. >> and more influential. what dawned on me, i wondered from the outside, pomeranz's book, you wonder what bragg did with the time between the first team that looks at the facts and the charging of trump. clearly what they did, with 22 meetings with michael cohen, the
pecker, increase. how often were you in touch with michael cohen after trump announced his candidacy? pecker, maybe daily. one of the most interesting things that happens today with pecker is what's been public facing trump, cohen, stormy, macdougal. what happened today was trump, pecker, and everybody else. i mean, the chart of the hush money election interference, corporate criminal enterprise totally changed. >> and you really see the impact of pecker and the "national...
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the answer from david pecker, quote, yes. he added, the actual purpose was to acquire lifetime rights so it was not published by any other news organization. pecker said it was standard to suppress stories to help a friend or to use as leverage with a celebrity, this was catch and kill in order to influence a presidential election. now with court adjourned for the weekend, it's all systems go as we head into next week with key testimony still ahead. this is where we start the hour with some of our most favorite reports and friends. two people inside the courtroom today, investigative reporter susan craig and former u.s. attorney and former deputy assistant attorney general harry litman. lucky for us, andrew is still here as is lockland. sue, we start with you and your wonderful notebook. >> i have to say i think the most interesting part of today was the contination of that agreement that karen mcdougal had. donald trump's lawyers really tried to muddy the water on it. put some poison in the ear that karen mcdougal got someth
the answer from david pecker, quote, yes. he added, the actual purpose was to acquire lifetime rights so it was not published by any other news organization. pecker said it was standard to suppress stories to help a friend or to use as leverage with a celebrity, this was catch and kill in order to influence a presidential election. now with court adjourned for the weekend, it's all systems go as we head into next week with key testimony still ahead. this is where we start the hour with some of...
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david pecker. to vaughn's point about unspoken, unknown details, according to prosecutes today, it was trump who invited david pecker to come to this meeting at trump tower in 2015. they were joined by michael cohen there. when we've seen that meeting described and public filings, it comes across really differently. they say there was a meeting between cohen and pecker and a third member of the trump campaign. we know from our colleague tom winters reporting in 2018 -- >> do we have that? okay. we're, we went back and we found, it actually circulated on social media. tom winter is a pro's pro and probably the kind of reporter that lives in both worlds. that does talk to those kinds of sources that know where people move and with whom they move. let me show you that report about that meeting and who was in it. >> the first discussion of this so-called catch and kill come up in august 2015. so the "wall street journal" reported back in november and nbc news has now confirmed that in fact the other ca
david pecker. to vaughn's point about unspoken, unknown details, according to prosecutes today, it was trump who invited david pecker to come to this meeting at trump tower in 2015. they were joined by michael cohen there. when we've seen that meeting described and public filings, it comes across really differently. they say there was a meeting between cohen and pecker and a third member of the trump campaign. we know from our colleague tom winters reporting in 2018 -- >> do we have that?...
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pecker, the bank. and so there was this scramble at the last minute about how michael cohen would come up with the money to replace the money that national enquirer had been focusing on. the other person who may have end up being a witness as you heard a lot about the general counsel of ami who put the kibosh on this when he learned about what was going on from david pecker. you have testimony today that the general counsel of ami instructed davidson to have to -- that he had to deal with michael cohen. meaning that the national enquirer wanted no part of this because they understood that campaign finance problem. and that is the piece of evidence that the jury has not heard but we're aware of, which is dylan howard is at the end of the day saying, you know what, at least i'm going to get a pardon for what we just did. that he was very aware of the illegality, the campaign illegality of this entire scheme. >> andrew weissmann, we're talking about dylan howard again. it is day nine. i think about eight
pecker, the bank. and so there was this scramble at the last minute about how michael cohen would come up with the money to replace the money that national enquirer had been focusing on. the other person who may have end up being a witness as you heard a lot about the general counsel of ami who put the kibosh on this when he learned about what was going on from david pecker. you have testimony today that the general counsel of ami instructed davidson to have to -- that he had to deal with...
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pecker. >> i think that's right on. i think pecker certainly comes off -- he introduced this whole scheme. that's giving us an introduction to what the juries are about to hear for the next six weeks. it is also someone that i think has a favorable view of trump and has been a longtime friend of trump. it's going to be interesting to see how trump's attorneys choose to cross him when they do, whether that be tomorrow or friday. sometime later this week. he is also coming off in a way that's quite grandfatherly. i think it's going to be interesting to see what they choose to approach him on, on cross examination. >> michael steele, i just kept thinking that this is a man who -- i'm not there to absorb the grandfatherly touches. he was the most eligible bachelor. he was never that. he was married. three times but still almost always married. it's going to be awkward to try to discredit him without also discrediting all of the lovely things he said about donald trump. >> yeah. it's one of those dynamics when you are lookin
pecker. >> i think that's right on. i think pecker certainly comes off -- he introduced this whole scheme. that's giving us an introduction to what the juries are about to hear for the next six weeks. it is also someone that i think has a favorable view of trump and has been a longtime friend of trump. it's going to be interesting to see how trump's attorneys choose to cross him when they do, whether that be tomorrow or friday. sometime later this week. he is also coming off in a way...
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and pecker had one of those moments. and i'll tell you what that moment was. it was on redirect, when the prosecutor had him admit that really in essence, the reason he was testifying that day was because he was afraid he was going to go to jail for what he did. he knew he committed a crime. he acknowledged he committed a crime. so when you have somebody who is essential to the fraudulent business records, as david pecker was, i mean, he was foundational to it, when he admits hey, i took a deal because i knew i could go to jail, that is something that the prosecutor could use, really powerfulfully in a closing statement and along with reminding the jury that the defense lawyers said donald trump was a family man. >> and claire, to your point, now the jury is looking at two men who -- one would went to jail and would have gone to jail and neither of them are running for president or neither of them have sex with stormy daniels or karen mcdougal. there is a common sense piece in this that maybe the unindicted co-conspirator will know. i have to sneak in a break.
and pecker had one of those moments. and i'll tell you what that moment was. it was on redirect, when the prosecutor had him admit that really in essence, the reason he was testifying that day was because he was afraid he was going to go to jail for what he did. he knew he committed a crime. he acknowledged he committed a crime. so when you have somebody who is essential to the fraudulent business records, as david pecker was, i mean, he was foundational to it, when he admits hey, i took a deal...
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but i think it is really david pecker. he's going to be the narrator for this entire thing. >> you look at how donald trump has talked about his 88 phony charges and there is a lot of bravado about the federal charges. he runs on the insurrection, he honors the insurrectionists, he described them, the violent ones as hostages. on mar-a-lago, he constantly talks to his supporters and conservative media, sean hannity and others, i was allowed to do it, they were personal records stuffed in there with my underwear. doesn't ever brag about, other than the access hollywood tape, but he doesn't brag about the alleged sex with karen mcdougal or with stormy daniels, or the alleged hush money payments that were filtered there you michael cohen that rudy giuliani went on fox news and confessed to on live television. he doesn't talk about the facts which is in trump terms pretty telling. >> he doesn't talk much about the facts or even the questions that are at stake. you don't hear him talk about stormy daniels all that much over the
but i think it is really david pecker. he's going to be the narrator for this entire thing. >> you look at how donald trump has talked about his 88 phony charges and there is a lot of bravado about the federal charges. he runs on the insurrection, he honors the insurrectionists, he described them, the violent ones as hostages. on mar-a-lago, he constantly talks to his supporters and conservative media, sean hannity and others, i was allowed to do it, they were personal records stuffed in...
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i think that we talked about david pecker, and he's one piece of it. we're going to be bringing in hope hix, there's another employee from the national inquirer that's going to come in. all of these, if you imagine this is a jigsaw puzzle. these are pieces that alvin bragg is going to put together to show the interis feerns and to show he's going to show donald trump's intent. keith davidson is another one that we mentioned. he's going to show that intent that once the "access hollywood" tape was released, the pressure on donald trump to make the payment to stormy daniels became even more intense. there was testimony that michael cohen was told to wait until after the election to make the payment and to make another one. all of this is going to come together in a picture of what alvin bragg is trying to put together with documents and other people cob rating it. >> we don't know which witnesses each side will call, but trump is on one of two witnesses on the defense list. let me show you some of how he's faired recently in depositions. >> i don't even
i think that we talked about david pecker, and he's one piece of it. we're going to be bringing in hope hix, there's another employee from the national inquirer that's going to come in. all of these, if you imagine this is a jigsaw puzzle. these are pieces that alvin bragg is going to put together to show the interis feerns and to show he's going to show donald trump's intent. keith davidson is another one that we mentioned. he's going to show that intent that once the "access...
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david pecker is the witness we don't talk about as much because he hasn't said as much in the public arena. you don't have a relationship with david pecker if you're not hiding something. >> you must look at david pecker because i think that he is a key to if you engaged in this, we're going to pay somebody to hide this story. it already shows the kinds of steps you would take to try and win, and even if it is in -- if not illegal, certainly unethical ways. you're going to actually engage in a deal as donald trump has done, with pecker to say somebody comes to something bad, buy the story and hide it. well, there's not much of a leap to go from there to saying i want to change and falsify some records. and i think that he can be a very damaging witness and damaging politically for trump when you've got a guy saying i did business with him, to bury things, and that can have some serious indications on what's going on in 2024. this is the kind of guy he is. but i agree with neil. i don't think donald trump would go on that stand if you had the court officers lift him out the chair and
david pecker is the witness we don't talk about as much because he hasn't said as much in the public arena. you don't have a relationship with david pecker if you're not hiding something. >> you must look at david pecker because i think that he is a key to if you engaged in this, we're going to pay somebody to hide this story. it already shows the kinds of steps you would take to try and win, and even if it is in -- if not illegal, certainly unethical ways. you're going to actually engage...
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when you go back to david pecker, the ceo of the parent company of "the national enquirer" and planned out a catch-and-skill team, and per michael cohen, with the a plan to plant stories that were negative about people like marco rubio, and ted cruz through the primary process. this case tells the story of, you look at michael cohen, an individual who flipped on donald trump. you look at allen weisselberg, currently in jail because he stood solely in the corner of donald trump, and as a consequence he finds himself in jail and unwilling to testify truthfully about donald trump. on in the totality of the nine years of donald trump, the contacts and individual we will be looking at brought forward by alvin bragg will be compelling voices, al while donald trump must sit there, required as a criminal defendant, to listen to the individuals who had been such key figures throughout the last ten years of his life. >> one of many, many services you provide is that you attend trump rallies, right? you hear the whole speech from the beginning to the middle to the end. i have seen enough of your
when you go back to david pecker, the ceo of the parent company of "the national enquirer" and planned out a catch-and-skill team, and per michael cohen, with the a plan to plant stories that were negative about people like marco rubio, and ted cruz through the primary process. this case tells the story of, you look at michael cohen, an individual who flipped on donald trump. you look at allen weisselberg, currently in jail because he stood solely in the corner of donald trump, and as...
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and trump was friendly with david pecker. this story was killed. that's going to come out in this case. >> we should say it doesn't happen at "the new york times." this is not -- the judge has made clear as well in the instructions this is about cheating. that's a much simpler story. >> it kind of reminds me of al capone on taxes. the crime alleged is something that i think even a lot of supporters of donald trump would not have trouble believing was happening. it's been corroborated in other context. the motive catch and kill. this is the means by which donald trump gets rid of problems. it attests to that. but beyond that, this trial has a feel of this season finale of "seinfeld," where everybody from "seinfeld"'s past comes to the jury box. it's going to be hope hix and cohen and they are all coming to say, this is actually how it works. >> and i want to show alvin bragg did a interview with you. he's not the right person for trump to rail against the way he rails against the doj and merrick garland and president biden. let me everyone your conv
and trump was friendly with david pecker. this story was killed. that's going to come out in this case. >> we should say it doesn't happen at "the new york times." this is not -- the judge has made clear as well in the instructions this is about cheating. that's a much simpler story. >> it kind of reminds me of al capone on taxes. the crime alleged is something that i think even a lot of supporters of donald trump would not have trouble believing was happening. it's been...
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pecker, and trump's former fixer michael cohen. a prosecutor, joshua stein said on monday that the three men had, quote, conspired to influence the 2016 election. here is how it was explained by "new york times" reporter jim rootenberg in the documentary series the fourthest tate. >> it is the summer of the campaign and just another day at the office, a playboy model has emerged who is going to allege an affair with the president several months after the birth of his child with melania. what are you doing? michael cohen and inquirer does a catch and kill where they buy her story and for a deal in $150,000, she will not talk about the affair during the campaign and this is what it means to be donald trump's fixer. >> a scheme to interfere with the 2016 election now the foundation of the first ever criminal trial of an american ex-president is where we begin today with some of our favorite reporters and friends. with me at the table, sue craig is back. tristan smell is also here, from new york state where he led the investigation and
pecker, and trump's former fixer michael cohen. a prosecutor, joshua stein said on monday that the three men had, quote, conspired to influence the 2016 election. here is how it was explained by "new york times" reporter jim rootenberg in the documentary series the fourthest tate. >> it is the summer of the campaign and just another day at the office, a playboy model has emerged who is going to allege an affair with the president several months after the birth of his child with...
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another piece of this that we sort of -- that the passage of time has dulled our memory of it and that is pecker and the inquirer and the tabloid piece but all of those facts will be presented anew to a -- alongside the things that have remained in the public eye. like michael cohen's long and twisted process of sort of detangling himself from trump's orbit, being thrown in jail by bill barr. you know, he's such a -- there are so many chapters in michael cohen's book. but the tabloid story hasn't been told. just refresh our memory on that. >> that is a catch and kill situation. not only was the nationalin inquirer in the middle of the stormy daniels case but karen mcdoggal was another story and they're in the middle because they were accused of falsifying business records. so this is all a piece of it that is going to come together when we get through -- eventually get to the trial. but this is now all coming into focus. and the one seat that will be noticeably empty, will be allen weisselberg, another big character. he witnesses a lot of it and today is heading to do another tour of duty at rik
another piece of this that we sort of -- that the passage of time has dulled our memory of it and that is pecker and the inquirer and the tabloid piece but all of those facts will be presented anew to a -- alongside the things that have remained in the public eye. like michael cohen's long and twisted process of sort of detangling himself from trump's orbit, being thrown in jail by bill barr. you know, he's such a -- there are so many chapters in michael cohen's book. but the tabloid story...
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hope hicks is on the list, never been on the list before, david pecker, long-time friend, hasn't spoken in a forum this publicly. he was an accomplice. he had some limited immunity when sdny looked at these facts. what is your sense of what is possible in terms of trump and his allies targeting these witnesses? >> it seems like a lot of it could be soft intimidation. i've talked to michael cohen, a lot of us have, about how concerned he is about his safety. i've talked to him, it's real for him. they're not providing him any help in terms of extra security or things like that, and when he walks down the street, somebody comes up to him, he doesn't know how that's going to go, and i think that part of it isn't just that somebody's threatening you, it's the seed that they plant that gets you worried and you're always looking over your shoulder. i think that stormy daniels and michael cohen come to mind in particular, about two people that have been targeted and there's hate sent to them on social media. at a certain point, you don't know what's going to happen. those sort of threats are e
hope hicks is on the list, never been on the list before, david pecker, long-time friend, hasn't spoken in a forum this publicly. he was an accomplice. he had some limited immunity when sdny looked at these facts. what is your sense of what is possible in terms of trump and his allies targeting these witnesses? >> it seems like a lot of it could be soft intimidation. i've talked to michael cohen, a lot of us have, about how concerned he is about his safety. i've talked to him, it's real...