i mean, james comey is the fbi director. >> right. >> there are many reasons for an fbi director to be briefing a president. >> yeah. >> maybe not always this president, but i mean, that is -- >> it's in the transition. i think this is the much written about time when they all come up and brief him. >> yes. >> comes out and trashes the intelligence agencies because he learns about the tape. >> and he sort of pulls him -- famously giving -- this is when you are a president elect, you are given actually even when you're running, you're given certain briefings and certain other briefings when you're actually the elected and james comey, you know, if you believe what he said in his book pulls him aside to tell him so he wouldn't be embarrassed about this. it is possible that is, in fact, this meeting. but then there's that and according to david pecker there's this discussion about karen mcdougal and how is she doing and essentially is she still quiet. >> he says that he did not mention that hope hicks was in the 2015 meeting. what's the significance of that? >> i think that's sort of stan