in fact the last time i was here with you there was a guy named lucas wartman. and he had had this whole genome sequencing for his leukemia. and what they found was that one gene was kind of in overdrive. but why was that gene in overdrive, probably because something in the dark matter was turning it on and making it make way too much. and when they found that they had a drug that could turn that gene down, and then they could control his cancer. but it was not-- the gene was normal it was perfectly fine but something in the dark matter was, a switch was on. it was in the on position. and wouldn't turn off. >> rose: and what caused that switch to do that? >> a cancer mutation, in the cancer itself. no not in the gene but you can mew tate the dark matter too. he had a mutation in his dark matter. >> rose: so if you have a mew days in the dark mat ter will affect what happens in the gene and what happens in the genes determines whether you get a disease like lieu camia. >> they called it the driver for his leukemia. >> rose: what we hope to come out of this, and t