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if you could stand by for us because actually, governor katie hobbs in arizona, they're just reacting to this ruling. let's listen to what she said >> we don't need to call a special session to legislature is in session right now, and they can do this right now. they can do it today. and they should, they should listen to their constituents nine out of ten arizona to support access to abortion and do the right thing so that we are not living under the confusion and chaos and lack of access to health care that's needed as you heard from this two stories they can do it right now. >> all right. there you here at governor hobbs saying they don't need to call a special session, the legislature is already in session and could clear this up but obviously, that is very much in question. >> misty marris. thank you so much for being with us. obviously, a lot of breaking news here too. they is the arizona supreme court has said that the state has to go all the way back to this law 123 years old. but actually even older in its original formation all the way back the civil war, that makes abortion
if you could stand by for us because actually, governor katie hobbs in arizona, they're just reacting to this ruling. let's listen to what she said >> we don't need to call a special session to legislature is in session right now, and they can do this right now. they can do it today. and they should, they should listen to their constituents nine out of ten arizona to support access to abortion and do the right thing so that we are not living under the confusion and chaos and lack of...
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he said the court went too far and that the arizona governor, who of course is a democrat, katie hobbs, will bring it to reason. what is your reaction? >> when you are the cause of the problem? you don't get to come back and say that now the democrats should clean up your mess. so of course i'm not surprised that that's what we're hearing. but i know that in the future they're going to continue again to chip away at these rights. so i really think that it's the same scenario that we're looking at with these legislators in arizona. they're backpedaling now because of the consequences not because they understand that what they have done is wrong. nobody is taking accountability for the fact that this is their mass. they are the ones who got us here in the first place. and have to hold them accountable to that. you can't just say, oh, well, this was wrong. let's fix it you have to say what i did was wrong. i made a mistake. how do we fix this? and that's not what's happening. there's no accountability right now at the state level or from the press presidency, or from the former president
he said the court went too far and that the arizona governor, who of course is a democrat, katie hobbs, will bring it to reason. what is your reaction? >> when you are the cause of the problem? you don't get to come back and say that now the democrats should clean up your mess. so of course i'm not surprised that that's what we're hearing. but i know that in the future they're going to continue again to chip away at these rights. so i really think that it's the same scenario that we're...
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hobbs >> it is a dark day in arizona just now, the arizona supreme court issued its opinion, implant hurt parenthood vmas upholding one of the most extreme abortion bans in the country. while it is currently stayed, we continue to live under an unacceptable ban. a law that's still strips arizonans of their personal autonomy and has no exceptions for women who are the victims of rape or incest, or any regard for pregnancy complications? >> the attorney general in arizona, the attorney general and arizona has tweeted out saying that this is unconscionable and in front of freedom. and said, make no mistake. the court has risked the health and lives of arizonans if can show part of that tweet, it says that today's decision to reimpose there's a law from a time when arizona wasn't a state, the civil war was raging and women couldn't even vote will go down in history as a stain on our state. this as far from the end of the debate on reproductive freedom, and i look forward to the people of arizona having their say in the matter that goes on to say and let me be completely clear, as long as
hobbs >> it is a dark day in arizona just now, the arizona supreme court issued its opinion, implant hurt parenthood vmas upholding one of the most extreme abortion bans in the country. while it is currently stayed, we continue to live under an unacceptable ban. a law that's still strips arizonans of their personal autonomy and has no exceptions for women who are the victims of rape or incest, or any regard for pregnancy complications? >> the attorney general in arizona, the...
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the governor, governor katie hobbs has called for that, so we are definitely watching at very closely to see if that's something that our state lawmakers will move forward in doing >> so, if that happens, then where exactly is arizona? considering that when you i just want to say considering when you look at this ruling, though, what the supreme court was saying here was the issue with the more recent 15 week ban. they said was that it was hinged on roe v. wade, which is obviously now irrelevant. so where would that leave arizona? >> so there's a possibility that if the 800s 64 band is repealed, then we could go back again to the situation we had on monday, which was the 15 week ban, which of course is nothing that arizonans can rely on as this as evidence of and so that's why we arizona for abortion access keep coming back to our measure to allow arizona voters to chime in on this themselves on the november ballot. and that would be a constitutional amendment which would stop all of this back-and-forth and political game play and give arizona and some peace of mind dawn. >> when will
the governor, governor katie hobbs has called for that, so we are definitely watching at very closely to see if that's something that our state lawmakers will move forward in doing >> so, if that happens, then where exactly is arizona? considering that when you i just want to say considering when you look at this ruling, though, what the supreme court was saying here was the issue with the more recent 15 week ban. they said was that it was hinged on roe v. wade, which is obviously now...
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she wrote quote, i opposed today's ruling and i'm calling on katie hobbs and the state legislature to come up with an immediate common sense solution. that arizonans can support previously. she actually had this to say, let's listen >> incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a great law that's already on the books. i believe it's ars 13, so it will prohibit abortion in arizona, except to save the life of a mother >> so clearly a flip-flop, they're outside of the policy how does that potentially hurt her with voters? this is someone who at least from what we've seen, will say just about anything even outside of the truth. if it stands to give her gain political well >> the etch-a-sketch of moving into a general election is nothing new. every candidate does it. you have a more i guess, extreme position in the primary. but as you go into a general election and you're appealing two independent voters and more moderate voters. and in this case, suburban women voters, you have a more moderate position on this. and i think kari lake, in this instance clearly sees the numbers and arizon
she wrote quote, i opposed today's ruling and i'm calling on katie hobbs and the state legislature to come up with an immediate common sense solution. that arizonans can support previously. she actually had this to say, let's listen >> incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a great law that's already on the books. i believe it's ars 13, so it will prohibit abortion in arizona, except to save the life of a mother >> so clearly a flip-flop, they're outside of the policy how...
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here's the state's governor, katie hobbs talking about the ruling we're having a problem, a technical problem there with the sound. >> yeah, i will try to get that fixed as soon as possible. the case is just the latest high profile example of the battle over abortion access and the role that it's played in several states since the us supreme court overturned roe versus wade back in 2022 we had white house press secretary karine john pearce speaking on that in the last hour let's try and play that sound like >> what today's decision. millions of arizonans will soon face an even more extreme and dangerous abortion ban than they did before this arizona law, which was initially enacted in 18, 64, more than 150 years here's a fails to protect women even when their health is at risk. when the president's predecessor handicapped three supreme court justices to open returned roe v. wade it paved the way for the chaos and confusion we're seeing play out across the country today >> there is almost no doubt that this decision by the state supreme court could have huge electoral consequences. we'
here's the state's governor, katie hobbs talking about the ruling we're having a problem, a technical problem there with the sound. >> yeah, i will try to get that fixed as soon as possible. the case is just the latest high profile example of the battle over abortion access and the role that it's played in several states since the us supreme court overturned roe versus wade back in 2022 we had white house press secretary karine john pearce speaking on that in the last hour let's try and...
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hobbs is not going to sign into law something similar to the now repealed 15 week ban that was passed in 2020 to talk to us a little bit about whether you'd like to see an alternative to the initiative that we've already that we already know is in the works because of that mental health exception in why in particular, you have an issue with that >> well, right now, voters are going to have a choice between a territorial band and near complete ban on abortions. and the abortion access initiative, which i think goes it's too far. i haven't seen any specific proposal yet, but i do know that republican members are coming up with some ideas talking about that and i'll take a look at that. i'm proudly pro-life. i've supported efforts to respect women and protect two new life. i think that the 15 week timeframe is an appropriate time frame width exceptions that need to be included. so we'll continue to have those conversations with colleagues, but we need to provide voters this november with a real choice between respecting women and allowing for them to make a deeply personal decision with
hobbs is not going to sign into law something similar to the now repealed 15 week ban that was passed in 2020 to talk to us a little bit about whether you'd like to see an alternative to the initiative that we've already that we already know is in the works because of that mental health exception in why in particular, you have an issue with that >> well, right now, voters are going to have a choice between a territorial band and near complete ban on abortions. and the abortion access...