. >> we're going to be joined by karol sikora . karol sikora. >> britain's underage drinkers a shocking report this morning carried out by the world health organisation. they say that the uk is the worst in the world for childhood drinking. are parents to blame? and that is a really shocking story. actually, the revelations show that over half of 13 year olds in the uk have had at one point a good solid drinking session , and they're inspired by session, and they're inspired by the way the data shows they're inspired by middle class parents having frequent, you know, wine sessions in the evening. >> the very fact that we're using the phrase childhood drinking makes my blood run slightly cold. my 13 year old hasn't had those sorts of drinks. it's definitely it's of course, it's parentally related, not a glass of wine at dinner. what? my 13 year old. yeah. no, no , no, but this is the thing, no, no, but this is the thing, right? we especially when we were a little bit more european, a bit more than we are now, this idea, wasn't it, t