drexler was talking about because we were coming out of we're of wars and modernism and building is by breyer and except for frank wright and everything was kind of cold and and. you know, these are all very precise and the culture wasn't that it was. it was heading for all kinds of chaos. so. i looked at it. i remember theem moma, the drexler show, it was very powerful. if anybody had seen it it was it was really seductive. it was you could just go there and slap it up and just do that for the rest of your life. and some of the architects started going down that rabbit hole. conference with a so michael graves and more than two were in philip and. it was at that group that time that philip put the little twirly sitting top of the at&t. it was as a result of that show and some the other architects were doing what we ended up calling postmodernism, because the show drexlerpostmodernism was very seductive. like you just you could just go in those buildings and love it. what was seductive about it? you just getm and friendly and you embrace saying and you know, it didn't. but it had nothing do t