people like mitch mcconnell who was one of the first young people graduate out of the leadership institute in the sixties, is now old. but the group that but the people that made him just created this massive societal like infrastructure sugar industry, society, like whatever you want to call, it's it's the thing that kind of makes itself in more oil because it keeps investing in its youth. the youth grow up and become adults and become powerful adults. and they just remember what it was like to sit in a room being like drinking free beer and talking about civil rights at 11 p.m. at night. it's really powerful. bond thank you. so steve, before you talk, i have to apologize and maybe c-span can edit this out. i, i use your last name as a pickle, and i, i called you vlasic of vladeck, so i apologize that maybe that can be edited out. i've been called. so. so it's interesting because when i first saw the lineup for this panel, i was trying to figure out who got hit on the head and put me on it because i'm the supreme court nerd. but it strikes me that actually there's a real sort of resonance