joey, i take issue on one point, and that is the resource allocation. this idea that, wait a second, it's going to be too much of a burden on the feds to impose the laws on the books, that's crazy. >> you know what, it takes 81 minutes on average to check the federal database to check somebody's immigration stats do it. that's what it's there for. >> 81 minutes for goodness sakes. >> it comes down to the issue of federalism. there's historically been that fight over whether or not the federal government should be dominant, should they be the ones, and shoot issue be preempted, should the federal government speak on that issue? >> to give police powers inherently to the states. when their border is on another one, don't they have the police authority? >> well, i think in some respects you're right. why? because if you look at arizona, you look at 370 miles of their border, which are porous and could permit for illegal aliens to come in. at the same time you have the federal government working with them, because you have border patrol agents, drones, surv