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please deny, david role in the criminal conspiracy to elect donald trump and the wild hearing on trump's gag order abuse. clearance, the judge is getting tough on trump's lawyer. >> saying to donald trump's attorneys, you are losing all credibility, you are losing all credibility with the court. >>> then why the biden campaign said they had a chance to win florida. >> he is out campaigning and i am sitting up all day long. >>> and r series continues, are you better off than you were four years ago? >> the disinfectant, it knocked it out in a minute and is there a way we can do something like that? by injection or cleaning. >> when all in starch right now. >>> good evening, from new york, i am chris hayes, day two of the criminal trial, donald trump, today we heard in great detail how trump and his gang conspired to hide all his worst secrets, at least some of them. trump and his lawyer continue to stretch the patience of judge merchan. the started with the hearing on the gag order the judge had already issued, which trump has her heatedly and freely been violating on social media and els
please deny, david role in the criminal conspiracy to elect donald trump and the wild hearing on trump's gag order abuse. clearance, the judge is getting tough on trump's lawyer. >> saying to donald trump's attorneys, you are losing all credibility, you are losing all credibility with the court. >>> then why the biden campaign said they had a chance to win florida. >> he is out campaigning and i am sitting up all day long. >>> and r series continues, are you better...
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one or more members of the trump campaign was trump. berman said he was told they should bring charges against a democratic lawyer who should be. decided not only had the counsel not done anything to warrant being prosecuted, he actually hadn't done anything at all. he was innocent of what he was accused of. jeff berman had not resigned and he said so. he refused to go. and he did that in part because he had seen what he had done in another u.s. attorney's office. it was in the dc u.s. attorney's office that the schemes went even further. bar and the dc u.s. attorney's office had succeeded in ousting the u.s. attorney there. and instead, installing his own people. that u.s. attorney's office in dc then immediately moved to drop the charges and undue the guilty plea from trump national security adviser mike flynn. they moved the recommended sentence from roger stone who had been convicted of multiple felonies. they also folded to the pressure to bring charges against obama's white house counsel. that case was so palpablely weak, the jury
one or more members of the trump campaign was trump. berman said he was told they should bring charges against a democratic lawyer who should be. decided not only had the counsel not done anything to warrant being prosecuted, he actually hadn't done anything at all. he was innocent of what he was accused of. jeff berman had not resigned and he said so. he refused to go. and he did that in part because he had seen what he had done in another u.s. attorney's office. it was in the dc u.s....
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trump. i think his lawyer struggled. it was notable because the state put on a convincing opening statement. in particular what todd blanche ran into his he could not say what does client wanted him to say. the defense did not charge the case so he was last having to say things like, it's president trump. he has earned his title. we should refer to him as president trump. >> who cares? it's a criminal trial and the argument he's making is how to refer to trump? what we call him by name? that was his big moment? >> he let up with it. everyone in the courthouse looked around and thought, is a really going with this argument? eventually segued into saying trump was ignorant of this and could not be held accountable because it was michael cohen's doing and he never signed off the chest dashed checks. the one argument he did not make was this idea of how voters were not deprived of any information before the 2016 election because they would not have been privy to the trump organization's records
trump. i think his lawyer struggled. it was notable because the state put on a convincing opening statement. in particular what todd blanche ran into his he could not say what does client wanted him to say. the defense did not charge the case so he was last having to say things like, it's president trump. he has earned his title. we should refer to him as president trump. >> who cares? it's a criminal trial and the argument he's making is how to refer to trump? what we call him by name?...
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testified that he went to trump tower there, and just after a meeting that donald trump had with the likes of james comey, reince priebus and sean spicer there, two weeks before he was sworn in as president, david pecker replaced all the individuals and had testified this week that that is where donald trump had thanked him for purchasing the rights to dino the doorman story as well as karen mcdougal's story. that was previous testimony of david pecker, just this week, in answering questions from the prosecution. but now, presently, under cross examination, by donald trump's defense team, they are going back to old transcripts that david pecker, when he was talking with federal investigators, back in july of 2018, contended that in that very meeting, at trump tower january 2017, that he did not actually recall donald trump thanking him or ami for purchasing dino the doorman's story or karen mcdougal's story. and that is the current line of questioning that is currently under way of david pecker asking him about that distinction of why back in 2018, just one year after this supposed m
testified that he went to trump tower there, and just after a meeting that donald trump had with the likes of james comey, reince priebus and sean spicer there, two weeks before he was sworn in as president, david pecker replaced all the individuals and had testified this week that that is where donald trump had thanked him for purchasing the rights to dino the doorman story as well as karen mcdougal's story. that was previous testimony of david pecker, just this week, in answering questions...
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trump. and lots of pro trump language throughout his entire argument. and social studies class, we learn a lot about bias and bias in the media and bias in all different sorts of stories. so it was very interesting to hear how someone actually in court was showing the same bias that we've seen in the media sometimes. >> testimony, also -- >> go ahead, owen. sorry. >> okay. his testimony also reflected how crucial this whole case michael cohen is and will be when he takes the stand in a few weeks. >> i have to ask you both very quickly, what was your impression of the former president? could you see him clearly where you were sitting? >> pretty clearly. he seemed very much more contained than he normally is. like, definitely i could see him nodding, he was nodding off at times. >> yeah. at the beginning when we were, when everyone was first setting up, he was swearing a lot then he went through periods where he was still. >> i find your observations to be really smart and interesting and hope, i don't have any doubt you're going to be in law school and y
trump. and lots of pro trump language throughout his entire argument. and social studies class, we learn a lot about bias and bias in the media and bias in all different sorts of stories. so it was very interesting to hear how someone actually in court was showing the same bias that we've seen in the media sometimes. >> testimony, also -- >> go ahead, owen. sorry. >> okay. his testimony also reflected how crucial this whole case michael cohen is and will be when he takes the...
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announced his president, which david pecker met at trump tower with michael cohen, and donald trump, to find stories that may come out before the 2016 election, salacious ones like the ones of stormy daniels, purchased the stories and ensured their silence so that they never got to the public before the 2016 election. and then in 2017, that donald trump knowingly was reimbursing michael cohen for that $130,000 payment to stormy daniels. the prosecution made it clear they're going to have a litany of witnesses from stormy daniels to michael cohen himself. david pecker, he took the stand for just over 30 minutes. he is expected on the stand tomorrow. on the other hand, the defense laid it out in a different way. starting out right at the top with the declaration that donald trump committed no crime, and you may hear a salacious story from the likes of michael cohen and stormy daniels who donald trump's defense made clear that you should question the credibility of. but instead, they focused on what the actual charges against donald trump are. and they were the falsification of business
announced his president, which david pecker met at trump tower with michael cohen, and donald trump, to find stories that may come out before the 2016 election, salacious ones like the ones of stormy daniels, purchased the stories and ensured their silence so that they never got to the public before the 2016 election. and then in 2017, that donald trump knowingly was reimbursing michael cohen for that $130,000 payment to stormy daniels. the prosecution made it clear they're going to have a...
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he was trump's fixer. together they conspired to influence v fluns the outcome of the election and pecker would ability as eyes and ears for the defendant and gather information that could be harmful and report that to cohen so trump could -- there's a dot, dot, dot, as people are trying to fill in the blanks here. what stands out to me, maya, how they're introducing all the characters that they will soon hear from, the jury will soon hear from. david pecker is somebody they're emphasizing early on. we've reported he's expected to be the first witness called by the prosecution. why would they start with him? why would he be the opening witness? >> because this is the movie trailer. central to the plot of this movie is conspiracy, in layman's terms, the agreement. the judge has already said to prospective jurors, this is about an agreement to conceal. the agreement begins with david pecker in august of 2015. that's the meeting, and donald trump is in the meeting. you have that top of the pyramid that caroli
he was trump's fixer. together they conspired to influence v fluns the outcome of the election and pecker would ability as eyes and ears for the defendant and gather information that could be harmful and report that to cohen so trump could -- there's a dot, dot, dot, as people are trying to fill in the blanks here. what stands out to me, maya, how they're introducing all the characters that they will soon hear from, the jury will soon hear from. david pecker is somebody they're emphasizing...
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trump added the part that read "in order to get on the trump jury." but within hours jesse waters corrected trump's mistake for him, posting trump's incorrect version of the quote to waters own twitter account in effect retroactively making his own words, words that trump wanted them to be. quite clearly and quite literally they are heeding trump's calls. they are taking his line edits. so what does a gag order mean when you have someone like this with a microphone? >> the guy needs exercise. he's usually golfing, and so you're going to put a man who's almost 80 sitting in a room like this on his butt all that time, it's unhealthy. he needs sunlight and needs activity. they're freezing him to death. he says it's like 45 degrees in there, and they're putting his life in danger. back with me lisa rubin. thank you both for being here tonight. i don't know, brian, i just -- what is the -- what's the point of a gag order honestly when you have a media industrial complex that is effectively acting as, you know, a public defense line for donald trump? >> i t
trump added the part that read "in order to get on the trump jury." but within hours jesse waters corrected trump's mistake for him, posting trump's incorrect version of the quote to waters own twitter account in effect retroactively making his own words, words that trump wanted them to be. quite clearly and quite literally they are heeding trump's calls. they are taking his line edits. so what does a gag order mean when you have someone like this with a microphone? >> the guy...
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i think about this in terms of trump acting as president trump on the one hand and as candidate trump on the other. that would then go back down to the lower court, presumably to make a ruling, i suppose, they could also decide to send it back to the court of appeals and trump's lawyer suggested it should go back to the district judge. you know, the silver lining is for her to make that decision. she could decide she needs to hold an evidentiary hearing and put on a miniature trial in essence before she made that determination. it would be cumbersome, it would be subject to additional layers of appeal, most likely. it would, as you mentioned, engender a lot of delay. but there is a slightly rosy prospect of actually having a hearing even though there would not be a jury verdict, hearing where the government evidence would become public. >> i wanted to ask about something that tonja brown jackson said to the end of the hearing today, putting aside that she was asked during, why can't we just answer the question as presented, she also said that article two, which is what the lawyer for
i think about this in terms of trump acting as president trump on the one hand and as candidate trump on the other. that would then go back down to the lower court, presumably to make a ruling, i suppose, they could also decide to send it back to the court of appeals and trump's lawyer suggested it should go back to the district judge. you know, the silver lining is for her to make that decision. she could decide she needs to hold an evidentiary hearing and put on a miniature trial in essence...
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trump? >> that is critical. why is that critical? well, because in order for this particular crime to be a felony, they have to show that donald trump not only caused business records to be falsified, and with the intent to commit a crime, but the intent to commit that crime and to cover up kind of goes in with the election interference, with the state campaign violation, so that -- that meeting actually puts all of them together, right? and so what that meeting really does is it is going to corroborate cohen's testimony, and it is going to show that pecker's acts were on the benefit of the campaign. can a person go ahead and contribute and independently benefit a campaign? yes, they can. pecker could have caught and killed the stories, but he cannot do it, it is a violation of the law, and that there goes with the intent to commit the crime which raises the crime to a felony. he cannot do it if he is led or guided or instructed or directed by trump or his agents. trump himself was at that m
trump? >> that is critical. why is that critical? well, because in order for this particular crime to be a felony, they have to show that donald trump not only caused business records to be falsified, and with the intent to commit a crime, but the intent to commit that crime and to cover up kind of goes in with the election interference, with the state campaign violation, so that -- that meeting actually puts all of them together, right? and so what that meeting really does is it is going...
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a claim trump denies. the defense claims trump was not involved in any way with cohen's payment. the reimbursement checks being generated or the entry in his company's business ledger, it was someone else's doing. they told the jury that nondisclosure agreements are used all the time and are perfectly legal and in trump's overused playbook, his lawyers claim that even if he did try to influence an election, there's nothing wrong with it. it's called democracy. of course, that will be what the 12-member jury will ultimately have to decide. joining me now is msnbc reporter adam reese, who was at the courthouse today. danny cevallos, criminal defense attorney and msnbc legal analyst, and jill wine banks, former assistant watergate special prosecutor and msnbc contributor. while i cannot and refuse still to believe you were old enough to be involved in the nixon investigation, jill, i do want to have you here because i want you to please reflect on the fact we're now having what didn't happen in the case you investigated with nixon, the prosecution of a former president in this case.
a claim trump denies. the defense claims trump was not involved in any way with cohen's payment. the reimbursement checks being generated or the entry in his company's business ledger, it was someone else's doing. they told the jury that nondisclosure agreements are used all the time and are perfectly legal and in trump's overused playbook, his lawyers claim that even if he did try to influence an election, there's nothing wrong with it. it's called democracy. of course, that will be what the...
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trump and she has been loyal to mr. trump. this is where you get this intersection, that is what rona graff faced, as well. you are now on the line, somebody has broken the law. this is obviously an election interference issue, a very serious issue. it is not just a hush money case. so, i am sure hope is being well advised by her lawyers, under no circumstances can you commit perjury in a case like this. just be careful, because the government has access to lots and lots of information. so, you have to tell the truth. i hope that she will do that, even if it hurts mr. trump. >> do you have any sense of any kind of relationship between them now? if they stay in communication? i'm talking about "hopey", as donald trump would call her. >> i actually don't. i actually know that one of my friends, when i worked with goldman sachs, recently married hope. i wish them great success. she is a lovely person. but again, this is just the problem of working with mr. trump. so, maybe to build but are thinking about working for mr. trump don
trump and she has been loyal to mr. trump. this is where you get this intersection, that is what rona graff faced, as well. you are now on the line, somebody has broken the law. this is obviously an election interference issue, a very serious issue. it is not just a hush money case. so, i am sure hope is being well advised by her lawyers, under no circumstances can you commit perjury in a case like this. just be careful, because the government has access to lots and lots of information. so, you...
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all to protect trump's campaign. they led to a specific agreement to cook the books to hide their financial footprints. the da said this will be corroborated with evidence in trump's own words. trump's defense rebuts that saying there isn't even a actual conspiracy charge in this case, that's true. the word conspiracy has a legal meaning and a more could he loek which al meaning be. they're attacking the whole election theory that trump promoted an election by unlawful means. that would be needed to super size it into a felony case. so the trump defense has kind of said, well, maybe the da is just being alarmist about what amounts to, however dirty, politics as usual. that's how they argue it. trump's lawyers proclaiming there's nothing wrong with trying to influence an election. it's called democracy. the da has put up three witnesses with testimony this week. now the national enquirer chief david pecker was clearly the hottest unloading details, dishing on the original sorted meeting that formed the trump alliance
all to protect trump's campaign. they led to a specific agreement to cook the books to hide their financial footprints. the da said this will be corroborated with evidence in trump's own words. trump's defense rebuts that saying there isn't even a actual conspiracy charge in this case, that's true. the word conspiracy has a legal meaning and a more could he loek which al meaning be. they're attacking the whole election theory that trump promoted an election by unlawful means. that would be...
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that there was a 2015 meeting in trump tower where he, pecker and trump hatched a plan to protect trump and hurt his opponents in his campaign for president. today, pecker called it a quote agreement among friends saying i would run or post positive stories about mr. trump and publish negative stories about his opponents. so what will trump's lawyers do with pecker on cross-examination? he did give them at least one opening. and what about their client, the former president? what he did in court today and what he did outside of it that could put him in contempt. judge merchan appeared to be fed up this morning. what he said to todd blanche. joining us now, lisa rubin. so, lisa, i call it an explosive day in court because pecker goes into great detail about the relationship he had with michael cohen and what he believed michael cohen was doing. and also not to mention the relationship he had with donald trump and direct conversations he had with trump about what they were doing in the 2016 campaign. >> i think david pecker is a far more important witness that many people appreciate. not
that there was a 2015 meeting in trump tower where he, pecker and trump hatched a plan to protect trump and hurt his opponents in his campaign for president. today, pecker called it a quote agreement among friends saying i would run or post positive stories about mr. trump and publish negative stories about his opponents. so what will trump's lawyers do with pecker on cross-examination? he did give them at least one opening. and what about their client, the former president? what he did in...
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trump. when he said we i thought he was talking about himself and mr. trump. david and the national enquirer influencing the 2016 election at the direction of his lawyer. and there was what prosecutors allege was doing behind the scenes. prosecutors asked mr. exclusive rights to and then sat on so the accusations against trump would not come out before the election. a process that is now known colloquially as catch and kill. it was a story the inquirer determined untrue but bought anyway so it couldn't be sold to anyone else. then there was ken mcdougal the model and actress, who like stormy daniels, alleged she had an affair with donald trump. the inquirer also bought the rights to hurt stories so she could not go public with it. and what we learned in court today is that all this behind- the-scenes maneuvering much like those bombshell cover stories was for one express purpose, to help the trump campaign. your is prosecutor stein glass. the part of the deal where you notified them so they could buy negative information about mr. trump, that part, did that pa
trump. when he said we i thought he was talking about himself and mr. trump. david and the national enquirer influencing the 2016 election at the direction of his lawyer. and there was what prosecutors allege was doing behind the scenes. prosecutors asked mr. exclusive rights to and then sat on so the accusations against trump would not come out before the election. a process that is now known colloquially as catch and kill. it was a story the inquirer determined untrue but bought anyway so it...
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trump's attorneys are saying yes. but at the same time saying if you were to kill somebody he would be immune from that. i was struck by in the same week in two different courtrooms and different cases they are both fundamentally sort of at bottom and testing the legal system, a stress test for the country. >> you can almost hear michael steele who was away in bucharest, -- >> why has judge merchan not ruled on the gag order? >> i think he is concerned about this going up on appeal. ruled on the gag order? >> i think he is concerned about this going up on appeal. in. if you will stick around, we have much more to discuss. by the way, i wrote about how this trial, the election interference trial, seems to be diminishing donald trump and away we don't often see. it is in friday's edition of the msnbc daily newsletter. you can see online but also subscribe for free. right now. pull your phone out, get your phone, open up the camera, and scan the qr code on the screen. sign up and you can start reading. you are watching "
trump's attorneys are saying yes. but at the same time saying if you were to kill somebody he would be immune from that. i was struck by in the same week in two different courtrooms and different cases they are both fundamentally sort of at bottom and testing the legal system, a stress test for the country. >> you can almost hear michael steele who was away in bucharest, -- >> why has judge merchan not ruled on the gag order? >> i think he is concerned about this going up on...
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trump. we have not had him on the record, and the question is, would there come a day that david pecker would testify? and as we speak, that is what is currently happening. and michael -- david pecker, i want to read a couple specific quotes here. because he is explaining that trump tower meeting that is at the heart of this case here against donald trump. david pecker says that he told michael cohen and donald trump, quote, i said that i would also be the eyes and ears. i would notify michael cohen, and he would be able to kill, meaning kill these stories. the prosecutor from the district attorney's office asked, quote, how if at all did mr. trump react to your suggestion that you continue to do that? quote, pecker says, he was pleased. currently there is evidence being brought forward before this jury that includes those "national enquirer" headlines, the pro-trump headlines as well as the attacks on the likes of the clintons and other republican primary opponents like marco rubio and ted
trump. we have not had him on the record, and the question is, would there come a day that david pecker would testify? and as we speak, that is what is currently happening. and michael -- david pecker, i want to read a couple specific quotes here. because he is explaining that trump tower meeting that is at the heart of this case here against donald trump. david pecker says that he told michael cohen and donald trump, quote, i said that i would also be the eyes and ears. i would notify michael...
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trump voters all over the country can hear donald trump committing the crime in that phone call. and that may be the level of certainty and public certainty in the evidence that prosecutors want to indict someone for actions that conducted during the presidency. >> i think that is actually probably correct. in georgia, the call is so damning. it is the president himself personally encouraging the secretary of state to find the number of votes needed to win. we don't have that in arizona. we don't have as much evidence as president trump gauging with people in arizona. as much as he did in folks with in michigan, pennsylvania, and elsewhere. so, my guess is that the quantum of evidence and his personal participation, the approximate cause of the strategy the architect with eastman and giuliani of the strategy. more direct evidence of his personal participation. that might come from some of these people if they cooperate. the nature of a conspiracy is it is concerted action. people working together. some of these people say oh yeah, i talked to president trump. and he encouraged me
trump voters all over the country can hear donald trump committing the crime in that phone call. and that may be the level of certainty and public certainty in the evidence that prosecutors want to indict someone for actions that conducted during the presidency. >> i think that is actually probably correct. in georgia, the call is so damning. it is the president himself personally encouraging the secretary of state to find the number of votes needed to win. we don't have that in arizona....
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he did it to protect donald trump. cohen lied to congress about business deals trump pursued in russia while he was running for president because trump wanted him to conceal those business deals so his russia baggage wouldn't look so obvious. and cohen lied to a bank to take out a home equity line of credit to pay to silence a woman alleging a sexual relationship with donald trump. namely stormy daniels. trump weirdly keeps leaving out those details when he calls his former personal attorney and fixer a criminal. in clear violation, by the way, of a gag order. tomorrow there will be another chance to hold donald trump accountable in an unprecedented case with farther reaching implications, not just for him but for our democracy. the u.s. supreme court will hear arguments in donald trump versus the united states about whether he can claim sweeping presidential immunity over his criminal election interference charges from special counsel jack smith. but even for the conservative majority hears one word of arguments, it i
he did it to protect donald trump. cohen lied to congress about business deals trump pursued in russia while he was running for president because trump wanted him to conceal those business deals so his russia baggage wouldn't look so obvious. and cohen lied to a bank to take out a home equity line of credit to pay to silence a woman alleging a sexual relationship with donald trump. namely stormy daniels. trump weirdly keeps leaving out those details when he calls his former personal attorney...
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pecker was eager to please trump to do things for him so when trump and cohen brought him to trump tower and said what can you do for us? that's why he was he was eager please. there was a transactional relationship between them that had benefitted both men for decades before they got to that meeting. >> so kristy, if you are the prosecution here, are you happy with david pecker's testimony so far? >> yes. he's done a number of things very well. one, like lisa said, his misdemeanor in court, he's very happy to be there. he has a big smile on his face. he's pretty jovial, but he's making some really key points. first on this point of benefit, he's very clear, yes, donald trump benefitted him previously. however, when it came to these hush money payments, when it came to dino the doorman, when it came to karen mcdougal, these were unusual, they were much larger payments. the limit previously for celebrity stories were 10,000, now you're talking 100,000. far more than usual and pecker testified this didn't benefit the "national enquirer." it would have benefitted us to publish the story. to
pecker was eager to please trump to do things for him so when trump and cohen brought him to trump tower and said what can you do for us? that's why he was he was eager please. there was a transactional relationship between them that had benefitted both men for decades before they got to that meeting. >> so kristy, if you are the prosecution here, are you happy with david pecker's testimony so far? >> yes. he's done a number of things very well. one, like lisa said, his misdemeanor...
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are attorneys john eastman and john ellis, trump aide boris epstein, christina bobb and trump campaign operative mike roman. the indictment says, "defendants and unindicted co- conspirators schemed to prevent the lawful transfer of the presidency to keep unindicted co-conspirator one in office against the will of arizona's voters. this scheme would have deprived arizona voters of their right to votes and have their votes counted. the defendants voted for then donald trump and vice president mike pence on december 14, 2020, falsely claiming to be duly elected and qualified electors for president and vice president of the united states from the state of arizona. defendants deceived the citizens of arizona by falsely claiming that those votes were contingent only on a legal challenge that would change the outcome of the election. in reality defendants intended that their false votes for trump/pence would encourage pence to reject the biden/harris votes on january 6th, 2021, regardless of the outcome. the scheme failed when mike pence accepted all certified biden/harris votes on january 6t
are attorneys john eastman and john ellis, trump aide boris epstein, christina bobb and trump campaign operative mike roman. the indictment says, "defendants and unindicted co- conspirators schemed to prevent the lawful transfer of the presidency to keep unindicted co-conspirator one in office against the will of arizona's voters. this scheme would have deprived arizona voters of their right to votes and have their votes counted. the defendants voted for then donald trump and vice...
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trump's election chances. trump's lawyers sought to raise questions about david memory and motive. david pecker was defined at one point, saying "i've been truthful to the best of my recollection ." the tabloid mogul also undermined the idea that trump wanted to bury those stories about women to protect his family, a common refrain from the defense. instead, he said he believed it was all to protect his campaign. >> i do have to begin by wishing melania trump happy birthday. >> reporter: melania trump was notably absent at trial. >> court will not based on session monday so the trial resumes tuesday at 9:30. with that, let's bring in our leadoff panel, john allen, politics reporter for nbc. eugene scott, senior politics reporter fracks yes, and the former federal prosecutor and senior writer for political magazine. thank you for joining us. trump's former longtime executive assistant testified for half an hour. she was known as "the gatekeeper" and set a company directory and numbers for stormy daniels and karen mcdougal. she also said the trump organization was paying her legal bi
trump's election chances. trump's lawyers sought to raise questions about david memory and motive. david pecker was defined at one point, saying "i've been truthful to the best of my recollection ." the tabloid mogul also undermined the idea that trump wanted to bury those stories about women to protect his family, a common refrain from the defense. instead, he said he believed it was all to protect his campaign. >> i do have to begin by wishing melania trump happy birthday....
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trump. for history's sake, the prosecution said social media has boasted in the past of how many people read his posts, and he was asked in 2021, he said, yeah, i think that's right. do you want me to say no? i retweet for a reason. they are currently in break here and about to reconvene, the court, in which david pecker, excuse me, will take the stand again. as to the gag order, josÉ, judge merchan said he will reserve his judgment on whether donald trump has violated it and it's not his timeline on when he will make the determination if donald trump is find and he could warn donald trump that he could serve jail time. >> unbelievable, charles, and this is in the morning before the first witness takes the stand. how would you describe the morning? >> this is not the start you want if you are donald trump, and i have been talking to a number of us on the panel, and i am surprised that todd blanche did not have a better explanation and response for some of the questions that judge merchan ha
trump. for history's sake, the prosecution said social media has boasted in the past of how many people read his posts, and he was asked in 2021, he said, yeah, i think that's right. do you want me to say no? i retweet for a reason. they are currently in break here and about to reconvene, the court, in which david pecker, excuse me, will take the stand again. as to the gag order, josÉ, judge merchan said he will reserve his judgment on whether donald trump has violated it and it's not his...
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donald trump. $12,000 with, $13,000.00 is not a lot of money to donald trump. so long as judge juan merchan doesn't have other options under the statute, even if he says the next time you do it jail is a possibility, he is already said that. >> is a constraint by statute or by what an appellate court would say from making an amount of money that would be more meaningful, that would be $100,000.00 per violation ? >> i think he is. i looked at the criminal contempt statute in new york and it is pretty clear those options are as i just outlined it. does that mean he couldn't find trump in violation of some other statute that has not been briefed before him? nobody has also said i'm not going to summarily find contempt. these are things you have to bring before me. he has made it very clear. these are not summary proceedings. unless he actually does it in front of me, i'm not going to do it on my own volition. >> we could keep going., we shouldn't. that will do it for us for now. now it is time for the
donald trump. $12,000 with, $13,000.00 is not a lot of money to donald trump. so long as judge juan merchan doesn't have other options under the statute, even if he says the next time you do it jail is a possibility, he is already said that. >> is a constraint by statute or by what an appellate court would say from making an amount of money that would be more meaningful, that would be $100,000.00 per violation ? >> i think he is. i looked at the criminal contempt statute in new york...
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trump quiet. if anyone should buy it, pecker said, it should be donald trump and michael cohen. trump's former fixer. pecker says when he told cohen, quote, he was upset and responded that the boss, referring to trump, would be furious with me. pecker said he believed mr. trump or his company had paid daniels until cohen told him in december of 2016 that he was the one who paid her. prosecutors are seeking to prove mr. trump doctored internal business records to cover up that payment. pecker also testified trump was aghast when he saw stormy daniels on "60 minutes." >> was it hush money to stay silent? >> yes. >> reporter: pecker said trump called him. he said, we have an agreement with stormy daniels that she cannot mention my name. trump later denied knowledge of the arrangement. on cross-examination, mr. trump's lawyers challenging pecker's credibility and business practices. at a campaign event earlier in the day, mr. trump addressed the testimony of his long-time friend. >> david has been ver
trump quiet. if anyone should buy it, pecker said, it should be donald trump and michael cohen. trump's former fixer. pecker says when he told cohen, quote, he was upset and responded that the boss, referring to trump, would be furious with me. pecker said he believed mr. trump or his company had paid daniels until cohen told him in december of 2016 that he was the one who paid her. prosecutors are seeking to prove mr. trump doctored internal business records to cover up that payment. pecker...
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trump. he's alleged to have worked with trump and his former attorney michael cohen to bury the stormy daniels story. other witnesses expected to testify include a who's who in donald trump's world. karen mcdougal also alleged a sexual relationship with trump. as trump left the courthouse on friday, he continued to insist he plans to testify in his own defense. >>> back here in washington after months of delay, house lawmakers have approved a $95 billion foreign aid package. in four back-to-back votes on saturday, lawmakers from both sides of the aisle overwhelmingly voted to approve the new funding package. a fourth bill would force tiktok's parent company based in china to sell the platform. president biden put out a statement saying members of both parties in the house voted to advance our national security interests and send a clear message about the powerful leadership on the world stage. it's expected to pass legislation and be sent to the president's desk. >>> speaker mike johnson is
trump. he's alleged to have worked with trump and his former attorney michael cohen to bury the stormy daniels story. other witnesses expected to testify include a who's who in donald trump's world. karen mcdougal also alleged a sexual relationship with trump. as trump left the courthouse on friday, he continued to insist he plans to testify in his own defense. >>> back here in washington after months of delay, house lawmakers have approved a $95 billion foreign aid package. in four...
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before trump no one even claimed that. after trump the courts now are full of prosecutions of his supporters and his aides. more indictments came just last night. and this is the obvious fact here. the insurrection was a public crime spree. it was televised. it was live streamed by some of its participants and now many of them are sitting in prison or waiting in trial. the related election plots are just the same. many justices seemed almost oblivious to that current reality and threat. today was a historic day for the supreme court in the sense that we will be reading about this in history books. off the top tonight i'm going to show you why and give you the breakdown. today was also a depressing day at this supreme court as its trump appointees and some other members seemed oblivious to this reality of this insurrection era. oblivious to the doj's victorious sedition convictions which not everyone may follow but judges and supreme court justices are supposed to track that. those people who stormed the capitol got their d
before trump no one even claimed that. after trump the courts now are full of prosecutions of his supporters and his aides. more indictments came just last night. and this is the obvious fact here. the insurrection was a public crime spree. it was televised. it was live streamed by some of its participants and now many of them are sitting in prison or waiting in trial. the related election plots are just the same. many justices seemed almost oblivious to that current reality and threat. today...
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we'll see where this thing ultimately goes. >> yes, whether it's from stock or trumps bibles or trumps sneakers, if there's a market for it, and these people want to buy it, why would they be victims? >> i think it's striking how few people are able to -- it's remarkable that the stock has not performed more successfully. yes, he had a couple of good days, where are the millions of trump loyalist? >> they are not in the market. >> the other reason is, you are seeing so few -- you don't have to get too technical. you're seeing so few shares trade because real money managers, pension funds, they are not buying this. because they have a fiduciary responsibility to their investors. they need to turn to their investors and say, this is the reason i purchased this stock, and they cannot give rationale. that's why it's only mom and pops and individuals. i read the washington post story as well, but donald trump has been a grifter in business for decades and decades. he has gone bankrupt six times. the last time he had a publicly traded company, it went right down the tube. if you choose to bu
we'll see where this thing ultimately goes. >> yes, whether it's from stock or trumps bibles or trumps sneakers, if there's a market for it, and these people want to buy it, why would they be victims? >> i think it's striking how few people are able to -- it's remarkable that the stock has not performed more successfully. yes, he had a couple of good days, where are the millions of trump loyalist? >> they are not in the market. >> the other reason is, you are seeing so...
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trump on trial. new york versus defendant donald trump. we are joined by district attorney joyce vance and jason johnson. both analysts for us, joyce, i went through some of what we got this opening week. it fair to say if you are on the jury, the da is up in the lead. i was careful to say it doesn't mean we know the outcome. what do they have to worry about? >> it is a great question. if you are the prosecution and you are not up after your first witness, you are in big trouble. right? but, the prosecution really did start off i think with an unexpected bang. no one knew what to expect out of david pecker. we knew he had been cooperating with prosecutors and brought trump into the election fraud conspiracy necessary to turn the misdemeanor into a felony. he today up well on testimony. they did not seem to come after him with a lot. they questioned some of the key pieces of evidence. but he was thoroughly rehabilitated on cross- examination. >> i don't want to be unkind to the defendant. and he is legally presumed innocent. but his family
trump on trial. new york versus defendant donald trump. we are joined by district attorney joyce vance and jason johnson. both analysts for us, joyce, i went through some of what we got this opening week. it fair to say if you are on the jury, the da is up in the lead. i was careful to say it doesn't mean we know the outcome. what do they have to worry about? >> it is a great question. if you are the prosecution and you are not up after your first witness, you are in big trouble. right?...
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donald trump? >> reporter: what is it about donald trump is a good question, chris. donald trump has staying power in so many ways. well, you may lose an election like the one in 2020, you also continue to have a following that is indignant upon any efforts to undermine him or the prestige of the trump organization or the political following, one that did garner more than 80 million votes in 2020, and folks are not naive to that, so even when donald trump loses an election or endorses candidates in 2022 who do lose, he continues to hold power to a great extent and also financial power, and that is what michael cohen for all those years had a full understanding of. hope hicks is going to take the stand here as a witness, and she has never met the ire of donald trump. those individuals who have caught his frustration are those who have attempted to sustain away from him, and when those individuals do step away from him, donald trump like bill barr, you are all but gone from his orbit here, and that's
donald trump? >> reporter: what is it about donald trump is a good question, chris. donald trump has staying power in so many ways. well, you may lose an election like the one in 2020, you also continue to have a following that is indignant upon any efforts to undermine him or the prestige of the trump organization or the political following, one that did garner more than 80 million votes in 2020, and folks are not naive to that, so even when donald trump loses an election or endorses...
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with trump. hope hicks comes in and plays prominently and part of the conspiracy to elevate trump by killing bad stories and promoting good ones and smear the opponents. it appears that you could read the papers and well aware of what the attacks seems determined to preempt all of the questions about michael cohen. >> right. and if we take a step back and leave the legal trial aspect of this for a moment, we're talking about the presumptive nominee and now a friend of donald trump's dating back to the 1980s, they met at mar-a-lago and stayed in touch frequently over the 30 years. now testifying today, publicly, telling the entire country that he sat in a boardroom in trump tower with donald trump on his first presidential run and concocted a plan which donald trump, who was pleased about in his own words, to cover up the salacious stories. that was a plan that a long time friend of his now tells the american public. and then the karen mcdougal story, to watch that testimony play out, again a long
with trump. hope hicks comes in and plays prominently and part of the conspiracy to elevate trump by killing bad stories and promoting good ones and smear the opponents. it appears that you could read the papers and well aware of what the attacks seems determined to preempt all of the questions about michael cohen. >> right. and if we take a step back and leave the legal trial aspect of this for a moment, we're talking about the presumptive nominee and now a friend of donald trump's...
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trump is a former president and they will always call him president trump. they will stress be on that that he right now is a presumptive republican nominee or as defense counsel called him, the republican nominee. not even presumptive. they will claim every aspect of this was an innocent act by trump. there was not and underlying sexual encoder to cover up come even though that would seem immaterial to the charges. they seem to be claiming that michael cohen, trump's lawyer, payday pornography store on his own accord and for his own reasons that trump only paid michael cohen for legal services, just like he always had but changed to a new weird way of paying him after the pornography star thing because they will think of something. if you were on this defense team, if in charge of coming up with a defense for mr. trump, here's a part of the prosecution case that would seem to be the most difficult thing to explain logically. if you are really going to mount a defense of trump did nothing wrong, there was no conspiracy to corrupt the election as the prosecut
trump is a former president and they will always call him president trump. they will stress be on that that he right now is a presumptive republican nominee or as defense counsel called him, the republican nominee. not even presumptive. they will claim every aspect of this was an innocent act by trump. there was not and underlying sexual encoder to cover up come even though that would seem immaterial to the charges. they seem to be claiming that michael cohen, trump's lawyer, payday pornography...
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kennedy, and donald trump. other than that, for all the giant barricades erected downtown, the largest numbers present were police officers and reporters plus a couple adorable middle schoolers who came down to see the events. inside the courthouse, i started as team overflow room and through the endless grace of lisa reuben moved to the main courtroom for the second half of the day. while i have written a book about donald trump called the man who sold america for which i interviewed many a trump person and former campaign staffer, et cetera, today was the first time i have actually been in the same room with donald trump. the tormentor of black teenagers like myself in the late 1980s when the central park trial took place in the very same courthouse. what i can tell you is he's taller than you might expect and walks in a gait that is shufflier than you would think. and he's definitely a scowler. although who wouldn't be scowling facing 34 criminal counts in a case that could in theory send you to prison. i ca
kennedy, and donald trump. other than that, for all the giant barricades erected downtown, the largest numbers present were police officers and reporters plus a couple adorable middle schoolers who came down to see the events. inside the courthouse, i started as team overflow room and through the endless grace of lisa reuben moved to the main courtroom for the second half of the day. while i have written a book about donald trump called the man who sold america for which i interviewed many a...
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trump was unfaithful in his marriage and that caught me right away because donald trump so far has not admitted to this affair. and i was interested that they were bringing that up to the jurors and planting that idea right out the onset. i don't quite know the strategy. maybe they are trying to get them used to the idea. i don't know. i thought that was an interesting question. some of the issues that will come up and how everybody will deal with them. >> he also has not admitted that he lost the 2020 election. >> alicia, there is that. and i think your point, and i like -- i would like for both of you to address this. this is a reality for donald trump. that is why they are asking the question. it is part of the reality. whether donald trump gets on the stand or not, those facts can become part of the conversation. yet axios reporting on this reality and noting the fact that the frequent exasperate expressions in court seem to reflect the reality that he is not in charge anymore. alleluia. what does that mean to you, charles? what does it say to you as a prosecutor? and what does it
trump was unfaithful in his marriage and that caught me right away because donald trump so far has not admitted to this affair. and i was interested that they were bringing that up to the jurors and planting that idea right out the onset. i don't quite know the strategy. maybe they are trying to get them used to the idea. i don't know. i thought that was an interesting question. some of the issues that will come up and how everybody will deal with them. >> he also has not admitted that he...
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trump, his family wasn't mentioned. jessica. >> this is a key part of pecker's testimony to shore up the prosecution's theory that these payments that ami made and that michael cohen go to the crux of the case or campaign contributions that exceeded the amounts an individual under law was permitted to donate to a campaign. pecker said we were involved with stories with respect to trump earlier in our association with him before he ran for office, and at those earlier times, trump was concerned about protecting his family, but once it came time to be in the campaign when we were in the campaign, trump's concerns were all about the effect on his campaign prospects, and that's what, again, makes these payments and these stories different from all of those others. >> let's get another update from our vaughn hillyard at the courthouse. i understand they're talking about a 2015 meeting? >> reporter: you guys were talking about the effort of donald trump's defense team apparently trying to disconnect this from the significance
trump, his family wasn't mentioned. jessica. >> this is a key part of pecker's testimony to shore up the prosecution's theory that these payments that ami made and that michael cohen go to the crux of the case or campaign contributions that exceeded the amounts an individual under law was permitted to donate to a campaign. pecker said we were involved with stories with respect to trump earlier in our association with him before he ran for office, and at those earlier times, trump was...
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trump campaign. again, whether or not this was all done to benefit the campaign is at least one of the cruxes of the matter here. again, this from an nbc reporter's courtroom notes today. bove, cohen was mr. trump's personal lawyer and that was his only job? pecker, correct. bove, between 2015 and 2016 cohen was always clear he wasn't working for his campaign, he was his personal attorney. pecker, yes. that's in addition to trump's defense attorney trying to make it seem to the jury that pecker has a faulty memory, implying he had his facts fed to him by prosecutors suggesting he might have lied under oath at one point when he didn't mention multiple times hope hicks, trump staffer hope hicks was present at at least one key meeting. the defense will get to resume their cross-examination of david pecker tomorrow morning when court reconvenes at 930 a.m. i have to say the revelations on david pecker on direct examination feel so understandable and straightforward and sort of right to the point in terms
trump campaign. again, whether or not this was all done to benefit the campaign is at least one of the cruxes of the matter here. again, this from an nbc reporter's courtroom notes today. bove, cohen was mr. trump's personal lawyer and that was his only job? pecker, correct. bove, between 2015 and 2016 cohen was always clear he wasn't working for his campaign, he was his personal attorney. pecker, yes. that's in addition to trump's defense attorney trying to make it seem to the jury that pecker...
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and stormy daniels did in fact have an intimate sexual encounter, which trump has tonight and trumps lawyers tonight in the opening statement. i think this is the first piece of evidence. my guess is there will be more evidence along these lines. my guess is the prosecutors want to be able to say to the jurors, at the end of this, you don't have to just take stormy daniels word. we presented additional evidence because trump has said she is whining. that to me is the significance of this. of the prosecutors can establish trump, to the extent prosecutors can establish trump is lying about anything, it is helpful to their case. this is a big point. he has tonight he's had this encounter with her but it appears it did in fact happen. >> john, michael cohen's banker was briefly on the stand today. seems like the prosecution is starting to dig into the records. we are talking dollars and cents. who sunk what and specific dates on specific documents. how crucial is it that the prosecution nails this part, nails this part so they don't have to worry about whether the jury buys the testimony
and stormy daniels did in fact have an intimate sexual encounter, which trump has tonight and trumps lawyers tonight in the opening statement. i think this is the first piece of evidence. my guess is there will be more evidence along these lines. my guess is the prosecutors want to be able to say to the jurors, at the end of this, you don't have to just take stormy daniels word. we presented additional evidence because trump has said she is whining. that to me is the significance of this. of...
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trump has already violated the gag order at least seven times this week alone giving trump the name sunday limits the timem he has to violate the gag order before court resumes on monday. also happening on monday, 10:00 a.m. eastern, just 30 minutes after opening statements kick off in his criminal trial donald trump's other attorneys will head just down the street to a different manhattan courthouse for a civil fraud case hearing that could threaten hundreds ofu millions of dollars in his assets. today new york attorney general leticia james asked the judge to void donald trump's $175 million bond in the case siting concerns that the bond company might not actually have the funds to back it up. >>> leading off our discussion tonight adam a fellow at just security who is covering the trial for the last word, also with us joyce a former united states attorney and a professor at the university of alabama school of law. she is co host of the hash tag sisters in law podcast and an msnbc analyst. thank you for being here. all right, trump's claiming he will be a witness. the judge will rule mon
trump has already violated the gag order at least seven times this week alone giving trump the name sunday limits the timem he has to violate the gag order before court resumes on monday. also happening on monday, 10:00 a.m. eastern, just 30 minutes after opening statements kick off in his criminal trial donald trump's other attorneys will head just down the street to a different manhattan courthouse for a civil fraud case hearing that could threaten hundreds ofu millions of dollars in his...
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everyone is expected to be loyal to trump, but trump is not loyal back to them. i'm curious to see how he behaves when it's michael cohen's turn on the stand. even though they will try to impugn his integrity and all that, that's fine, but there are receipts. this case isn't just based on michael cohen's word on things. there are other people corroborating this, and david pecker being one of them. that's why he went first. >> dave i wanted to turn to the gag order violations, trump is accused of violating the gag order four more times, bringing the total number of violations to 15. some eagle experts have speculated judge mershon might be willing to rule on these all at once rather separately. will he be asked to spend a night in jail or have consequence for violating these gag orders? >> maybe way down the line, ayman, but i think he's going to get a fine, an accumulation of fines, but trump is being treated different than us. i've never seen any defendant curse at the judge and get away with it. i mean the judge has the gavel, where's the black robe, you have t
everyone is expected to be loyal to trump, but trump is not loyal back to them. i'm curious to see how he behaves when it's michael cohen's turn on the stand. even though they will try to impugn his integrity and all that, that's fine, but there are receipts. this case isn't just based on michael cohen's word on things. there are other people corroborating this, and david pecker being one of them. that's why he went first. >> dave i wanted to turn to the gag order violations, trump is...
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well is trump. that's because of the pressure placed on the southern district of new york by main justice. all the while, folks were saying, doj, are you okay? not knowing that jeff berman was fighting to the last moment with folks very senior in trump's justice department to try to get the story to be told in as truthful a way as prosecutors wanted it to be. >> blinking in morse code. it didn't do much at the time. let the history books write it however they want. a lot of this, if there was not a criminal trial, it might never have been known to the public and the voters. >> another interesting thing if it come out, michael cohen for all of this period was a salaried employee of the trump organization. we learned that today it was mentioned in the openings, "the new york times" in 2020, a lot of tax information and employment records. and we could see he was a salaried employee. he was being paid a w-2. why did they need to pay him this extra money if he's already on staff? it's not unheard of. yo
well is trump. that's because of the pressure placed on the southern district of new york by main justice. all the while, folks were saying, doj, are you okay? not knowing that jeff berman was fighting to the last moment with folks very senior in trump's justice department to try to get the story to be told in as truthful a way as prosecutors wanted it to be. >> blinking in morse code. it didn't do much at the time. let the history books write it however they want. a lot of this, if there...
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with donald trump. because clearly a judge in a case like this has the appeal on his mind all the time. he knows if there is a guilty verdict here that donald trump is going to want to appeal this in as many ways in as many angles as he possibly can. is there something that the judge has to worry about in the possible appeals future of this case that inhibits him in policing, right now, donald trump's conduct, for example, including attacking jurors? >> yes. so the judge is absolutely right to worry about in appeal. trump is going to file an appeal if he is convicted no matter what, and trial judges generally have a lot of discretion over how to run their trials. so the thumb on the scale is going to be in favor of the judge but that doesn't give them an unlimited blank check. i think today generally was a good day. they took eight steps forward and only two back. that is a good day in the trump trial world because they are trying to find 12 people in the world in manhattan who don't have strong feeling
with donald trump. because clearly a judge in a case like this has the appeal on his mind all the time. he knows if there is a guilty verdict here that donald trump is going to want to appeal this in as many ways in as many angles as he possibly can. is there something that the judge has to worry about in the possible appeals future of this case that inhibits him in policing, right now, donald trump's conduct, for example, including attacking jurors? >> yes. so the judge is absolutely...
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charging mark meadows, rudy giuliani, and 16 other trump allies, and naming trump, himself, as an unindicted co-conspirator. and then there is trump's hush money trial in manhattan, where witnesses revealed his earliest forms of election interference. trump has denied the allegations and pleaded not guilty to 34 felony counts of falsifying business records. former national inquirer publisher, david pecker, was the first to take the stand. testifying that he suppressed story about trump's scandals and spread lies about his rivals in the 2016 race. also known as fake news. pecker said he served as the " eyes and ears for the campaign at trump's on request. " then, rhona graff testified under subpoena, saying she remembered seeing stormy daniels in the trump tower lobby, and adding her contact info to the trump organization database. when court reconvenes, tuesday morning, there will be more testimony from the banker, who helped michael cohen pay off stormy daniels. now, here's some food for thought. as we hurtle into week two of trump's hush money election interference trial. if the supreme co
charging mark meadows, rudy giuliani, and 16 other trump allies, and naming trump, himself, as an unindicted co-conspirator. and then there is trump's hush money trial in manhattan, where witnesses revealed his earliest forms of election interference. trump has denied the allegations and pleaded not guilty to 34 felony counts of falsifying business records. former national inquirer publisher, david pecker, was the first to take the stand. testifying that he suppressed story about trump's...
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trump. today on day four of the trial, the full panel of 12 jurors and six alternates were shown in to consider donald trump's fate in the historic first criminal trial of a former u.s. president. judge marchand told the court that the opening statements would start on monday. that did not stop donald trump's lawyers to try to delay the case. this is at least the tenth time the trump team has been denied a trial delay request. donald trump isn't going to stop the wheels of justice from turning on monday. a key question is whether or not he'll be a witness in his own criminal trial. this is what donald trump told reporters today. >> are you going to testify? >> yes. >> now, this is donald trump we're talking about. his yes can't really be taken at face value. especially when we know what sorts of questions donald trump could be facing from prosecutors. after jury selection was complete, the judge held a sandoval hearing where prosecutors revealed the lawsuits they plan on using in cross-exami
trump. today on day four of the trial, the full panel of 12 jurors and six alternates were shown in to consider donald trump's fate in the historic first criminal trial of a former u.s. president. judge marchand told the court that the opening statements would start on monday. that did not stop donald trump's lawyers to try to delay the case. this is at least the tenth time the trump team has been denied a trial delay request. donald trump isn't going to stop the wheels of justice from turning...
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i would be very clear about what trump is saying what trump is saying, loud and clear, repeatedly, online and into microphones is that if the supreme court does not grant him total immunity and he is elected to a second term, he will order the department of justice to prosecute joe biden. that is what he is saying. that is the key take away, quote, if they take away my residential immunity, they take away crooked joe biden's presidential immunity. quote, joe would be right for indictment by weaponizing the doj against his political opponent, me, joe has opened a giant pandora's box point quote, remember, if i don't have presidential immunity, then crooked joe biden doesn't have it either and he would certainly be prosecuted for his many actual crimes. trump is campaigning on ginning up a baseless prosecution of joe biden. >> if i am not entitled to immunity as president, every other president would get that, then crooked joe biden would not be entitled to immunity and when he left office he would be , i assume, prosecuted so if i don't have immunity, he doesn't have immunity and, by the w
i would be very clear about what trump is saying what trump is saying, loud and clear, repeatedly, online and into microphones is that if the supreme court does not grant him total immunity and he is elected to a second term, he will order the department of justice to prosecute joe biden. that is what he is saying. that is the key take away, quote, if they take away my residential immunity, they take away crooked joe biden's presidential immunity. quote, joe would be right for indictment by...
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that donald trump is donald trump. you will say and do things that will be detrimental to his own cause and he has an aptitude for self sabotage unlike any politician we know and this is a sort of campaign that has six months to go and a lot can happen. there are no unknowns and the idea that trump is coming back for a second term, i just don't think it is reflected in the data or the reality of donald trump, the politician we know. >> michael steele here. i found the headline an interesting one. and that trump may not be the front runner. you are talking about in terms of the race between him and biden? or inside the party? who is taking this guy down inside the party? everyone is lined up. if he is not the front runner, who is? >> in terms of the race between he and biden i mean. >> okay. >> trump clearly is the dominant figure in the gop and has been for almost nine years. that is no question. there is a third of the republican party that builds on this very show right now, joe scarborough, that are embarrassed by t
that donald trump is donald trump. you will say and do things that will be detrimental to his own cause and he has an aptitude for self sabotage unlike any politician we know and this is a sort of campaign that has six months to go and a lot can happen. there are no unknowns and the idea that trump is coming back for a second term, i just don't think it is reflected in the data or the reality of donald trump, the politician we know. >> michael steele here. i found the headline an...
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, not only through the trump campaign but also the trump organization. and gary farro may be able to authenticate some of those e-mail conversations and his understanding of the transfer of money from bank accounts that ultimately made its way to stormy daniels attorney there at the close of october of 2016, katy. >> october 26th, 2016, is when this e-mail was dated. that also happens to be my birthday. let's get back to the panel at the table, danny and adam. gary farro, why is he important? >> in 2018, michael cohen said neither the trump organization or the trump campaign had anything to do with the transaction between stormy daniels and me, but this is that e-mail that was uncovered around that time from october 26th, 2016, that shows that that was probably not the case, at least because the e-mail was not through cohen's gmail account, it was through his trump organization e-mail account, which doesn't really coincide with his statement that the trump organization had nothing to do with it. >> he had his e-mail on his phone, and you know, his person
, not only through the trump campaign but also the trump organization. and gary farro may be able to authenticate some of those e-mail conversations and his understanding of the transfer of money from bank accounts that ultimately made its way to stormy daniels attorney there at the close of october of 2016, katy. >> october 26th, 2016, is when this e-mail was dated. that also happens to be my birthday. let's get back to the panel at the table, danny and adam. gary farro, why is he...
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trump. let's get started with our panel, mark leibovich, harry litman and glenn kershner. lay out for us what these indictments are, what this whole thing means because so much has happened a lot of people are going wait a minute, what was the fake elector scheme again? >> it's true. it sort of washes over us so much has happened, but look, these are serious charges. this is a brazen attempt to steal the election from the rightful winner. the 11 electors get together and say we'll sign certificates saying we're the rightful electors in arizona, which of course, they aren't and they know they aren't and they conspire to do it with some pretty high up associates of the former president, including mark meadows, including jenna ellis, including rudy giuliani and we see it as another chapter, but if you stop and think about it, it's a serious effort to steal an election, holds serious penalties, five years or so and involves people who could really give damaging testimony against the former presi
trump. let's get started with our panel, mark leibovich, harry litman and glenn kershner. lay out for us what these indictments are, what this whole thing means because so much has happened a lot of people are going wait a minute, what was the fake elector scheme again? >> it's true. it sort of washes over us so much has happened, but look, these are serious charges. this is a brazen attempt to steal the election from the rightful winner. the 11 electors get together and say we'll sign...
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trump. mr. blanche is hoping when those jurors go back and deliberate they're going to think trump is just like this lawyer that mr. blanche hopes the jurors will like very much. >> david pecker is being questioned now about check the journalism. we should point out that we at nbc and msnbc and the mainstream media do not pay for, they don't pay for interviews. they don't pay people other than we pay an outside author for something they're writing or doing. but you don't pay for journalism. he's explaining the way of the tabloids, which was to pay. the max they would pay that he would have to approve personally would be $10,000. we're talking here about payments of $130,000 stretched out to kill a story. so they're establishing this was very unusual. >> not only are they establishing it's very unusual, andrea, part of the art, the skill of trial lawyers here including it is the way the prosecutors put out a very complicated case in 45 minutes told a story that captivates the jury. they know that
trump. mr. blanche is hoping when those jurors go back and deliberate they're going to think trump is just like this lawyer that mr. blanche hopes the jurors will like very much. >> david pecker is being questioned now about check the journalism. we should point out that we at nbc and msnbc and the mainstream media do not pay for, they don't pay for interviews. they don't pay people other than we pay an outside author for something they're writing or doing. but you don't pay for...
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it went 87% for biden. >> one said i don't think i can vote for trump. >> a video that donald trump posted. what vaughn was talking about the former juror number one the one that asked to be released from the trial because she said that what was written meant that she could no longer be fair. defending donald trump's process is to under mine the judicial system. trump's lawyers tried to get an emergency state from an appeals court. argueing there's no possible way for trump to get a fair trial in manhattan. the response from the district attorney alvin braggs office was simple, what the last week has shown is the jury selection has worked. he continued, we have 18 ordinary new yorkers who are ready to serve. it would be unfair to them and the public for this trial to be delayed further end quote. the appeals court judge agreed and quickly rejected trump's request. right now the good news is amongst all the ruckus, the judicial system has not bent to trump's attacks. despite what he says, the system is working for the former president. just like it would for any other person. at the end of
it went 87% for biden. >> one said i don't think i can vote for trump. >> a video that donald trump posted. what vaughn was talking about the former juror number one the one that asked to be released from the trial because she said that what was written meant that she could no longer be fair. defending donald trump's process is to under mine the judicial system. trump's lawyers tried to get an emergency state from an appeals court. argueing there's no possible way for trump to get a...