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in response, petitioner raises concerns about potential abuses. but established legal safeguards provide layers of protections with the article 3 courts providing the ultimate check. the existing system is a carefully balanced framework. it protects the president but not at the high constitutional cost of blanket criminal immunity. that has been the understanding of every president from the framing, through watergate, and up to today. this court should preserve it. i welcome the court's questions. >> mr. dreeben, does the president have immunity? are you saying there is no immunity, presidential immunity, even for official acts? >> yes, justice thomas, but i think that it is important to put in perspective the position that we are offering the court today. the president, as the head of the article 2 branch, can assert as applied article 2 objections to criminal laws that interfere with an exclusive power possessed by the president, or that prevent the president from accomplishing his constitutionally assigned functions. that is the constitutional
in response, petitioner raises concerns about potential abuses. but established legal safeguards provide layers of protections with the article 3 courts providing the ultimate check. the existing system is a carefully balanced framework. it protects the president but not at the high constitutional cost of blanket criminal immunity. that has been the understanding of every president from the framing, through watergate, and up to today. this court should preserve it. i welcome the court's...
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. >> in one of the interactions between petitioner and a state official, petitioner is alleged to have said, i need you to find me 11,000 votes and change. i think if you look at that content, it's clear that petitioner is acting in the capacity as office seeker, not as president. we would look at that content. >> okay. the test -- i'm focused on the legal test. i'm not hearing any objections to it. >> other than, i think that the d.c. circuit placed more content consideration off limits than i would. >> all right. i wanted to understand, on the core immunity or whatever word we use, that it seems to me we are narrowing the ground of dispute here considerably, do we look at motives, the president's motives for his actions? for example, he has more power as we discussed, but he might use them to enhance his election, his personal interests. is that a relevant consideration when we're looking at core powers? >> i am thinking of this more as looking at the objective of the activity as opposed to the subjective motive in the sense that your honor is talking about. i think there's a lot of
. >> in one of the interactions between petitioner and a state official, petitioner is alleged to have said, i need you to find me 11,000 votes and change. i think if you look at that content, it's clear that petitioner is acting in the capacity as office seeker, not as president. we would look at that content. >> okay. the test -- i'm focused on the legal test. i'm not hearing any objections to it. >> other than, i think that the d.c. circuit placed more content consideration...
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what struck me is many of the justices were really tough on the petitioner. then they were tough on the solicitor general. it's one of those cases where they were going hard against each side. first i thought they were going hard on the petitioners, but they are coming at this from both sides? >> and that is what you would want. asking the tough questions to both sides. i do think that it is like a little interesting if they were to step backwards. how many times have justice alito and justice thomas asked questions about the fairness of a prosecution when it comes to the criminal defendant. they are not particularly known for that. so it is a little striking to hear so many of those concerns today, coming out of that segment of the court. when you think of the dominant methodology of the court right now is reading the statute, that it is just what the plain text says. here is the plain text that's so good for the government, lawrence. it says it is a crime to otherwise obstruct, influence, or impede any official proceeding. it sure seems like dollars to donu
what struck me is many of the justices were really tough on the petitioner. then they were tough on the solicitor general. it's one of those cases where they were going hard against each side. first i thought they were going hard on the petitioners, but they are coming at this from both sides? >> and that is what you would want. asking the tough questions to both sides. i do think that it is like a little interesting if they were to step backwards. how many times have justice alito and...
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. >> one of the root problems with petitioner's conduct is that he knew about the proceeding. he had said in advance of january 6 that he was prepared to storm the capitol, prepared to use violence. you wanted to intimidate congress. he said they can't vote if they can't breathe and he went to the capitol on january 6 with that intent in mind and took action including assaulting a law enforcement officer. that did appear the ability of the officers to regain control of the capitol. i think it is entirely appropriate for the government to seek to hold the petitioner accountable for that content with that intent. >> joining us now is katie porter who was a harvard law school student of professor elizabeth warren and was a professor of law herself. congressman porter, you were in the supreme court chamber today listening to that argument. i feel i should be addressing u.s. professor porter tonight in your law professor role. he spent years as a law student studying supreme court cases and here's as a law professor. what do you make of today's. >> it was incredibly impressive to s
. >> one of the root problems with petitioner's conduct is that he knew about the proceeding. he had said in advance of january 6 that he was prepared to storm the capitol, prepared to use violence. you wanted to intimidate congress. he said they can't vote if they can't breathe and he went to the capitol on january 6 with that intent in mind and took action including assaulting a law enforcement officer. that did appear the ability of the officers to regain control of the capitol. i...
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petitioners effort to remain in power by fraud. those allegations of private misconduct are more than sufficient to support the indictment. joining our discussion now is judge vance and she is cohost of the podcast, hashtag sisters in law and in msnbc analyst. just when we think we've heard all the arguments already on this issue, jack smith comes through with another brief, with new ways of saying these things, that become ever more powerful every time he's forced to restate >> i think that's right, you know, this is a technical legal brief and smith is making arguments predicated on what he hopes the supreme court will do, ruling that there's no immunity, and what he's afraid the court might do, ruling that there's limited immunity in which case, smith says to the court, no matter what you decide about what immunity might exist, donald trump isn't entitled to any immunity. you should send this case back to the district court for trial because his conduct involves a purely personal conspiracy and although we are entitled to use ev
petitioners effort to remain in power by fraud. those allegations of private misconduct are more than sufficient to support the indictment. joining our discussion now is judge vance and she is cohost of the podcast, hashtag sisters in law and in msnbc analyst. just when we think we've heard all the arguments already on this issue, jack smith comes through with another brief, with new ways of saying these things, that become ever more powerful every time he's forced to restate >> i think...
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it instead underscores the unprecedented nature of petitioners alleged conduct. to the particulars of the case, jack smith wrote first, of presidents alleged criminal scheme to overturn an election and thwart the peaceful transfer of power to his lawfully elected successor is the. dramatic example of conduct that should not be immunized, even if other contact should be. second, at the core of the charged conspiracies is a private scheme with private actors to achieve a private and -- petitioner's effort to remain in power by fraud. those allegations of private misconduct are more than sufficient to support the indictment. joining our discussion of is joyce vance, former u.s. attorney and professor at the university of alabama school of law. she has cohost of the podcast "hash text sisters-in-law," and nbc legal analyst. just when we think we've heard all the arguments already on this issue, jack smith comes through with another brief with new ways of saying these things that become ever more powerful every time he is forced to restate them. >> i think that is rig
it instead underscores the unprecedented nature of petitioners alleged conduct. to the particulars of the case, jack smith wrote first, of presidents alleged criminal scheme to overturn an election and thwart the peaceful transfer of power to his lawfully elected successor is the. dramatic example of conduct that should not be immunized, even if other contact should be. second, at the core of the charged conspiracies is a private scheme with private actors to achieve a private and --...
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petitioner in turned to a private attorney he was willing to spread knowingly false claims of election fraud to spearhead his challenges to the election results private. >> as alleged we dispute the allegation but a it sounds private. >> petitioner conspired with another private attorney who signed filing in court of a verification signed by petitioner that contained false allegation to. >> that sound private. >> they want to draw a distinction between official conduct tying to the president's constitutional responsibilities and so-called private conduct which is unrelated to that. to draw a distinction between the two in the immunity setting. so that you can get immunity for official acts, but not immunity for private acts. it sounds very clever and useful but it's an artificial construct. and the concern of justices, a lot of arguments are disingenuous. and think they know better. the problem with this argument, which i thought justice jackson arctic lathed jack articulated this well. we have a president who wants to assassinate someone hire a private hitman, if this doctrine is in p
petitioner in turned to a private attorney he was willing to spread knowingly false claims of election fraud to spearhead his challenges to the election results private. >> as alleged we dispute the allegation but a it sounds private. >> petitioner conspired with another private attorney who signed filing in court of a verification signed by petitioner that contained false allegation to. >> that sound private. >> they want to draw a distinction between official conduct...
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by petitioner that contained false allegations to support a challenge. >> that also sounds private. >> justice kagan had that same kind of line of questioning with trump's attorney. glen, how do you see that line of questioning and what does it tell you about the possible decisions that both coney barrett and kagan could have on this? >> yeah, great question, jose. that was an important concession by donald trump's attorney. and what it means is that there is an opportunity for the trial to move forward, even if only on those things that the attorney conceded were not official acts. so, even under donald trump's theory, as articulated through his attorney, the prosecution could proceed on those nonofficial acts. of course, that would only be giving jack smith half a loaf with respect to the crimes that he has indicted and the crimes that should be resolved with a trial. but here is the challenge. all of these discussions are purely academic because even if donald trump's defense attorney agreed, yeah, the charges with -- relating to these nonofficial acts could move forward, they ca
by petitioner that contained false allegations to support a challenge. >> that also sounds private. >> justice kagan had that same kind of line of questioning with trump's attorney. glen, how do you see that line of questioning and what does it tell you about the possible decisions that both coney barrett and kagan could have on this? >> yeah, great question, jose. that was an important concession by donald trump's attorney. and what it means is that there is an opportunity...
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to the nine supreme court t justices this week, he was known as the petitioner, asking them to grant him immunity for criminal prosecution. we can now add one more child to that list. unindicted co-conspirator. that is the title donald trump has been given in two cases brought against loyalists who allegedly participated in the effort to overturn the results of the 2020 election. the latest indictment comes out of arizona, where this woman, the attorney general, chris mays, pressed charges against 18 people for their roles in that states the collectors scheme. they include rudy giuliani, parker meadows, and other me prominent trump allies, and, notably, lawyers. the indictment alleges those 18 defendants, "schemed to prevent unlawful transfer of the presidency to keep unindicted co-conspirator one, donald trump, in office against the nd will of arizona's voters." that news dropped in the middle of a very busy week for the former president and his attorneys. trump was also separately named an unindicted co-conspirator in michigan's investigation into the collectors scheme. 16 people h
to the nine supreme court t justices this week, he was known as the petitioner, asking them to grant him immunity for criminal prosecution. we can now add one more child to that list. unindicted co-conspirator. that is the title donald trump has been given in two cases brought against loyalists who allegedly participated in the effort to overturn the results of the 2020 election. the latest indictment comes out of arizona, where this woman, the attorney general, chris mays, pressed charges...
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. >> petitioner conspired with another private attorney caused the filing in court to the verification signed by petitioner that can date false allegations. >> that sounds private. >> three private actors and two attorneys and political consultant help the pullman plan to submit fraudulent claims of presidential electors to obstruct the proceeding and petitioner and co-conspirator attorney directed that effort? >> you read it quickly. i believe that's private. >> bozak she would not dispute. those were private and you wouldn't raise a claim? >> is characterized. >> is characterized those were private. conservative justice amy coney barrett, she's getting donald trump's lawyer to agree that a whole bunch of things that trump was indicted for in the january 6 federal case, punter those things are things that could not possibly be construed to be the official actions of a president. now, justice barrett emerge from the arguments today is potentially the swing vote on this overall issue. maybe which is crazy given how right-wing she is. of all the conservative justices, she seemed like the
. >> petitioner conspired with another private attorney caused the filing in court to the verification signed by petitioner that can date false allegations. >> that sounds private. >> three private actors and two attorneys and political consultant help the pullman plan to submit fraudulent claims of presidential electors to obstruct the proceeding and petitioner and co-conspirator attorney directed that effort? >> you read it quickly. i believe that's private. >>...
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the presidents are immune from current liability, and instead underscores the unprecedented nature of petitioner's alleged conduct. and he argues a bedrock principle of our constitutional order is that no person is above the law, including the president. this all comes in advance of oral argument scheduled for april 25th. while the eagle issues here are not complex, this is about whether the supreme court will act swiftly enough for trump to face trial before the election or whether they will basically bail them out by delaying. and second, the jack smith and his team both have to argue against absolute immunity, three of whom were appointed by donald trump. served as chief of the federal division of the u.s. attorney's office. she's also cohost of the prosecuting donald trump podcast, and she joins me now. mary, your top line impressions of this brief from jack smith's office? >> is a very strong brief. i think it's the best brief that the government has filed in this series of briefs, because remember, first they briefed in the trial court before george redken. and they briefed it before the d.c
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>> the idea that uncle red being gone, he was the youngest of the three, that of the two remaining petitioners are 109 years old means that there is just, by definition of nature very little time for them to get justice. they were little kids, they were babies, they were toddlers when it happened but they remember it. doesn't it feel like that should carry some weight ? people always try to say you can't do preparations because the victims are long gone. they are not gone. >> i think it's very interesting and you brought up my man, uncle red and we missed him. in my career of 20 years working on this issue, i've lost so many survivors. to be down to the last two, it felt like it was a powerful feeling to see the two 109-year- old women in court today but i was saddened they are having to spend these years in their life still going to the courthouse is trying to get justice. you said something, hey, this is special injury. some of the defendants were trying to say these two living survivors were not injured, particularly by the massacre. i think the court saw through that and i am just so thank
>> the idea that uncle red being gone, he was the youngest of the three, that of the two remaining petitioners are 109 years old means that there is just, by definition of nature very little time for them to get justice. they were little kids, they were babies, they were toddlers when it happened but they remember it. doesn't it feel like that should carry some weight ? people always try to say you can't do preparations because the victims are long gone. they are not gone. >> i...
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the petitioner who brought it. the one man in this country's history who actively thwarted the peaceful transfer of power. it is unclear to us how or when the justices will resolve this. it is likely that this could add months of delay to the interference case. if that happens, this might not proceed to trial. this case may never proceed to trial at all. joining me is doug jones of alabama. on thursday, it was the room where oral arguments were held. senator, good to see you. thank you for being with us this morning. the tension between some of those justices and the arguments they are making was obvious. some members of the court were split on this. what was it like in that room? how did you sense what was going down? >> it is always a somber occasion when you are sitting in the supreme court listening to oral arguments. it is a very ornate courtroom. i for one was not that surprised that the nature of the arguments. even the hypotheticals. justices asked questions for a lot of different reasons. there was a lot o
the petitioner who brought it. the one man in this country's history who actively thwarted the peaceful transfer of power. it is unclear to us how or when the justices will resolve this. it is likely that this could add months of delay to the interference case. if that happens, this might not proceed to trial. this case may never proceed to trial at all. joining me is doug jones of alabama. on thursday, it was the room where oral arguments were held. senator, good to see you. thank you for...
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opinion of some, they did not spend enough time on the specific case in front of them and the specific petitioner who brought that case, the one man who actively thwarted the peaceful transfer of presidential power. it's unclear exactly how the justices will resolve this. but it appears possible that their decision could add month of delay to trumps federal election interference case. if that happens, the case may not proceed to trial before the elections in november. trump is elected to another term, it may never go to trial at all. nearly two years ago in the january 6 million invited to participate in one of its hearings, the judge opened his testimony with these words. quote, a steak was driven to the heart of american democracy on january 6, 2021. in our democracy today is on a nice edge,". the statement has aged well. our democracy remains on a nice edge because justice has not been served, and we face the possibility that the supreme court could play a role in delaying it further. joining me now is the retired former federal judge, previously serving on the fourth circuit of appeals. cruci
opinion of some, they did not spend enough time on the specific case in front of them and the specific petitioner who brought that case, the one man who actively thwarted the peaceful transfer of presidential power. it's unclear exactly how the justices will resolve this. but it appears possible that their decision could add month of delay to trumps federal election interference case. if that happens, the case may not proceed to trial before the elections in november. trump is elected to...
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the petitioner's effort to remain in power by fraud. quote, nothing in constitutional text, history, precedent or policy considerations supports the absolute immunity that the petitioner seeks. although it will surprise no one that that hasn't stopped trump's lawyers from asserting that he could go so far as to direct s.e.a.l. team 6 to assassinate a political opponent. that's being said out loud now. that's where we are as a country, as a democracy. that is where we are. even beyond this epic question of the scope of american presidential power is the all important second question, right. that is what profound damage has been done, how far away from true north are we as a democracy that this question is being considered at all. no american president, not one, not even richard nixon asserted that a president should have such sweeping immunity. not even nixon did that. and yet the man who is making that argument in an attempt to avoid accountability for his actions, actions he barely denies just so happens to be the current republican no
the petitioner's effort to remain in power by fraud. quote, nothing in constitutional text, history, precedent or policy considerations supports the absolute immunity that the petitioner seeks. although it will surprise no one that that hasn't stopped trump's lawyers from asserting that he could go so far as to direct s.e.a.l. team 6 to assassinate a political opponent. that's being said out loud now. that's where we are as a country, as a democracy. that is where we are. even beyond this epic...
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petitioner turned to a private attorney, willing to spread false claims of election fraud to spearhead his challenges to the election result. >> we dispute the allegation, but that sounds private. >> conspired with another private attorney. >> that also sounds private. >> three private actors, two ordinary reason attorneys including those mentioned above and a political consultant implemented a plan to about instruct the certification proceeding and petitioner and coconspirator directed that effort. >> i believe that is private. >> so those acts you would not dispute. they are private and you walledn't raise a claim? >> as characterized those were private acts. not official acts. that is conservative justice amy coney barrett. she is getting donald trump's lawyer to agree that a whole bunch of things that trump was indicted for in the january 6th federal case, a whole bunch of those things are things that could not possibly be construed to be the official actions of a president. now, justice barrett emerged from the arguments today as potentially the swing vote on this overall issue. m
petitioner turned to a private attorney, willing to spread false claims of election fraud to spearhead his challenges to the election result. >> we dispute the allegation, but that sounds private. >> conspired with another private attorney. >> that also sounds private. >> three private actors, two ordinary reason attorneys including those mentioned above and a political consultant implemented a plan to about instruct the certification proceeding and petitioner and...
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instead underscores the unprecedented nature of petitioners alleged conduct. this is, obviously it is written in a legal brief. i think it is an important, powerful message point that should be continued to be repeated. he is facing this despite what sherilyn just said, the supreme court should be arguing this because of his actions lisa, talk to me a little bit about that, why that was so important to include or whether you agree. >> it was hugely important to include in part because that is a principal argument on which donald trump has relied, that in our nations history, we have never seen a prosecution like this and you know that some of the superlatives that come out of his mouth, the hyperbole's, he is very fond of speaking in never before have we seen this or people always say, right? one of the things that he has incorporated into his legal filings is we have never seen anything like this before. so i think it was important for the special counsel to counter that and say we haven't seen this because nobody has acted in office like you have. and to you
instead underscores the unprecedented nature of petitioners alleged conduct. this is, obviously it is written in a legal brief. i think it is an important, powerful message point that should be continued to be repeated. he is facing this despite what sherilyn just said, the supreme court should be arguing this because of his actions lisa, talk to me a little bit about that, why that was so important to include or whether you agree. >> it was hugely important to include in part because...
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what the petitioners were arguing was that the 15-week abortion ban is the most recent iteration from the state's legislature about the status of abortion in that state. and that satisfied what the ban is the law. it's the law as recent as 2022 in that state and they said that that is the nature of abortion in the state that should prevail because that's the most recent iteration from the state's legislature. what the supreme court's majority said was that you know, they just essentially did not buy that. they said that this 2022 law did not one, repeal this 1864 law. and this 1864 law thus could still stand given that it wasn't repealed by this law and it wasn't superseded by this most recent law. now, the dissent made very strong arguments against that but that was, they didn't win as justice roberts says, these are sometimes matters of balls and strikes and the dissent just didn't have the numbers on their side. that said, it's really strange and unusual what we have coming out of arizona. >> shows you the importance of repealing these laws that seem to be trumped by other you know
what the petitioners were arguing was that the 15-week abortion ban is the most recent iteration from the state's legislature about the status of abortion in that state. and that satisfied what the ban is the law. it's the law as recent as 2022 in that state and they said that that is the nature of abortion in the state that should prevail because that's the most recent iteration from the state's legislature. what the supreme court's majority said was that you know, they just essentially did...
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that presidents are immune from criminal liability, it instead underscores the unprecedented nature of petitioner's alleged conduct." this is written in a legal brief, i think it is an important and powerful message point that should continue to be repeated. he is facing this, despite what sherrilyn just said. because of his actions. lisa, talk to me about that and why that was important lewd or whether you would create -- would agree it was important? >> it was, that a critical argument that trump has relied on. in our nations history, we have never seen a prosecution like this. and you know some of the hyperbole that come out of his mouth, he is fond of in, never before have we seen this. -- one of the things he is incorporated into his legal filings is, we have never seen anything like this before. it was important for the special counsel to counter that and say, we have not seen this because no one has acted in office like you have. to your point about the coming an important messaging tool, i have talked about how the political and legal appear to be collapsing in trump various cases. things t
that presidents are immune from criminal liability, it instead underscores the unprecedented nature of petitioner's alleged conduct." this is written in a legal brief, i think it is an important and powerful message point that should continue to be repeated. he is facing this, despite what sherrilyn just said. because of his actions. lisa, talk to me about that and why that was important lewd or whether you would create -- would agree it was important? >> it was, that a critical...
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to the 90 people justices, he was known as the petitioner, asking them to grant him immunity from criminal prosecution. we can now add one more title to that list, unindicted co- conspirator. that is the title trump has been given in two cases brought against loyalists who allegedly participated in the effort to overturn the results of the 2020 election. the latest indictment comes out of arizona, attorney general christmas press charges against 18 people for their roles in that state speak electeds scheme. they include rudy giuliani, mark meadows, and other prominent trump allies and literally lawyers. the indictment alleges those 18 defendants "schemed to prevent the lawful transfer of the presidency to keep unindicted co-conspirator number one, donald trump, and office against the will of arizona's voters." that was dropped in the middle of a very busy newsweek for the president and his attorneys. at. trump's week began with opening statements on monday in his criminal trial in new york which was followed by the prosecution calling it's first witness. david pecker, over the course of fo
to the 90 people justices, he was known as the petitioner, asking them to grant him immunity from criminal prosecution. we can now add one more title to that list, unindicted co- conspirator. that is the title trump has been given in two cases brought against loyalists who allegedly participated in the effort to overturn the results of the 2020 election. the latest indictment comes out of arizona, attorney general christmas press charges against 18 people for their roles in that state speak...
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it instead underscores the unprecedented nature of petitioners alleged conduct and he argues a bedrock principle of our constitutional order is that no person is above the law, including the president. this comes in advance of oral arguments that are scheduled for april 25th and while the legal issues are not that complex, this is all about whether the supreme court will act swiftly enough for trump to face trial before the election or whether they will bail him out by delaying, and second, jack smith and his team have to argue against absolute immunity before a new audience. mary mccord is former acting attorney general, and cohost of the prosecuting donald trump podcast. and she joins me now. mary, first to the top line impressions of this brief? >> i think it's a very strong brief, i guess the best . the government has filed in a series of briefs because first a brief in the trial court before the judge and they prevailed there than they briefed it before the d.c. circuit and they prevailed there. it go through all the arguments made before but in somewhat of a different level of cl
it instead underscores the unprecedented nature of petitioners alleged conduct and he argues a bedrock principle of our constitutional order is that no person is above the law, including the president. this comes in advance of oral arguments that are scheduled for april 25th and while the legal issues are not that complex, this is all about whether the supreme court will act swiftly enough for trump to face trial before the election or whether they will bail him out by delaying, and second,...
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it instead underscores the unprecedented nature of the petitioner's alleged conduct. trump has until april 15th to issue his final reply brief. the same date that the you shall money trial against him begins. the first ever criminal case against an american ex-president. it's where we start today with some of our favorite experts and friends. former secretary of the army, louis caldera joins us. he was one of the former military personnel who filed yesterday's brief. also joining us, former lead investigator, tim heaphy is here. and with me at the table for the hour, former top state department official for the obama administration, rick stangl is here. secretary caldera, tell me about the argument being made, and then tell me about the consequences, if your argument does not prevail. >> well, so first of all, you know, an amicus brief is a friend of the court brief, where we try to bring attention to the justices, matters that they wouldn't necessarily think about. and because none of the justices, as learned as they are, ever served in the military, we thought it wa
it instead underscores the unprecedented nature of the petitioner's alleged conduct. trump has until april 15th to issue his final reply brief. the same date that the you shall money trial against him begins. the first ever criminal case against an american ex-president. it's where we start today with some of our favorite experts and friends. former secretary of the army, louis caldera joins us. he was one of the former military personnel who filed yesterday's brief. also joining us, former...
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helped implement a plan to submit fraudulent slates of electors to obstruct the proceeding and the petitioner and co-conspirator attorney directed that effort. >> quickly i believe that is private. >> so those acts you would not dispute. those are private and you would not raise the claim? >> is characterized. >> is characterized those were private acts, not official acts. that is conservative justice amy coney barrett at the supreme court. she is getting from slayer to agree that a whole bunch of things trump was indicted for, all bunch of those things could not possibly be construed to be official actions of a president. now, justice barrett emerged from the arguments today as potentially the swing vote on this overall issue, maybe, which is crazy given how right- wing she is. out of all of the conservative justices she seemed like the one trying to work out a workable answer, like she might be persuadable by either camp. i think chief justice roberts was hard to read. justice barrett gave more indication than any other conservative justice that she might be thinking about where she will co
helped implement a plan to submit fraudulent slates of electors to obstruct the proceeding and the petitioner and co-conspirator attorney directed that effort. >> quickly i believe that is private. >> so those acts you would not dispute. those are private and you would not raise the claim? >> is characterized. >> is characterized those were private acts, not official acts. that is conservative justice amy coney barrett at the supreme court. she is getting from slayer to...