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trump does have arguments. he is a little bit removed from the actual records that are alleged to been falsified. connecting into that, he could claim you didn't know about it. whether he gets one juror to buy that i have a mistrial, that's possible. >> yes. let's see. david michael cohen, maybe stormy daniels. who do you think would be the most effective witness for the prosecution? >> well, i think michael cohen is going to be the most important one. he was trump's fixer. he was right next to him. he pleaded guilty to federal charges for this hush money deal and another ones. he obviously has credibility issues because of that. he also is the one who's going to be able to tell the story. david is hugely important because he knew trump going back to the 1990s. he was directly involved in three hush money deals. so, he will also -- he's never spoken publicly about this. he will also be very important. >> he may be first. we will see. >> very good to talk with you. thank you so much. >>> cary lakes says her supp
trump does have arguments. he is a little bit removed from the actual records that are alleged to been falsified. connecting into that, he could claim you didn't know about it. whether he gets one juror to buy that i have a mistrial, that's possible. >> yes. let's see. david michael cohen, maybe stormy daniels. who do you think would be the most effective witness for the prosecution? >> well, i think michael cohen is going to be the most important one. he was trump's fixer. he was...
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donald trump is not immune to that. just because he might be convicted and/or found guilty it does not mean i would want to vote for him as president. i think it is different than we have heard in the past. he is innocent, not even a question of possible guilt. even if he is guilty, there is still a possibility i will vote for him because politicians have faults. >> that is an interesting distinction. i will sit and think on that. thank you so much. joining in right now is ms nbc legal and assist, and coauthor of a stable genius. she is also a msnbc contributor. welcome, ladies. joyce, donald trump is contending he cannot get a fair trial in manhattan. of what you saw in the jury selection process this week, can he? >> reporter: this was a fast jury process. some folks have been suggesting it might take a couple of weeks. instead, it just took days. i think this was a fair process but it is a legitimate concern when you are donald trump and a public figure, can you get a fair jury? what we saw here was jurors who had so
donald trump is not immune to that. just because he might be convicted and/or found guilty it does not mean i would want to vote for him as president. i think it is different than we have heard in the past. he is innocent, not even a question of possible guilt. even if he is guilty, there is still a possibility i will vote for him because politicians have faults. >> that is an interesting distinction. i will sit and think on that. thank you so much. joining in right now is ms nbc legal...
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there is so much going on today including donald trump said to speak in a matter of hours. his first beaches since the start of his trial just days before opening statements and a crucial hearing on the gag order in the case. much more on that coming up shortly. >>> let us talk with what we've seen unfold over the past few errors in aware saturday session of the house of representatives. the house passing a quartet of bills, two of them of writing new u.s. aid to israel and ukraine. upper contain security systems for taiwan in the indo pacific region. on the last involves the effort to force tiktok's parent company to sell it or be banned in the united states. the reason for the password effort of separate bills, the inability of mike johnson to find enough common ground to pass this as one large foreign aid package. the four bills will be packaged as one and they will go to the senate for approval sometime in the next few days. altogether the build include $95 billion of an aide package champion by joe biden for months now with some changes from the version past two months
there is so much going on today including donald trump said to speak in a matter of hours. his first beaches since the start of his trial just days before opening statements and a crucial hearing on the gag order in the case. much more on that coming up shortly. >>> let us talk with what we've seen unfold over the past few errors in aware saturday session of the house of representatives. the house passing a quartet of bills, two of them of writing new u.s. aid to israel and ukraine....
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trump. they also found voter interest fell to a 20 year low of 64%. let's begin on capitol hill. a big day. it's great with all that breaking news. the news of the house passing the long-awaited foreign aid bill. and now does it cost the speaker's leadership? >> that's the question that i'm thinking about. the republicans and democrats that expressed outrage that he could be ousted are asking today and it was an historic day on capitol hill yesterday. this morning the speaker's job is in jeopardy.>> he's already a lame-duck. a foreign war package that does nothing for america? when i the house has passed a series of crucial funding bills in a rare session. among them $60 billion to ukraine in their fight against russia. 26 billion for israel in its war against hamas. and billions for humanitarian needs in gaza. >> the bill is passed. >> reporter: and $8 billion to taiwan. hard-line republicans say they feel betrayed and accused johnson of prioritizing helping ukraine over funding for the sou
trump. they also found voter interest fell to a 20 year low of 64%. let's begin on capitol hill. a big day. it's great with all that breaking news. the news of the house passing the long-awaited foreign aid bill. and now does it cost the speaker's leadership? >> that's the question that i'm thinking about. the republicans and democrats that expressed outrage that he could be ousted are asking today and it was an historic day on capitol hill yesterday. this morning the speaker's job is in...
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trump and she has been loyal to mr. trump. this is where you get this intersection, that is what rona graff faced, as well. you are now on the line, somebody has broken the law. this is obviously an election interference issue, a very serious issue. it is not just a hush money case. so, i am sure hope is being well advised by her lawyers, under no circumstances can you commit perjury in a case like this. just be careful, because the government has access to lots and lots of information. so, you have to tell the truth. i hope that she will do that, even if it hurts mr. trump. >> do you have any sense of any kind of relationship between them now? if they stay in communication? i'm talking about "hopey", as donald trump would call her. >> i actually don't. i actually know that one of my friends, when i worked with goldman sachs, recently married hope. i wish them great success. she is a lovely person. but again, this is just the problem of working with mr. trump. so, maybe to build but are thinking about working for mr. trump don
trump and she has been loyal to mr. trump. this is where you get this intersection, that is what rona graff faced, as well. you are now on the line, somebody has broken the law. this is obviously an election interference issue, a very serious issue. it is not just a hush money case. so, i am sure hope is being well advised by her lawyers, under no circumstances can you commit perjury in a case like this. just be careful, because the government has access to lots and lots of information. so, you...
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it did not matter to trump. what mattered to him was the cameras would be there and he could play that like he had a good reception and he was handing out for -- standing up for something good. >> this poll shows a striking phenomenon. when you're out of the third party vote. especially rfk jr. the two- point lead that trampled over biden actually flips with five candidates in the race. biden is the one with the two- point advantage, still within the margin of error. nbc notes this finding contrasts with conventional political wisdom as well as results from national polls suggesting that a bigger third- party voters biden more. what do you think the biden campaign can glean from this? >> i think they could be very unsafe ground to say that kennedy, because of his views, anti-vaccine or his financial supporters are per trump, that he may in fact end up hurting trump more than he would hurt biden, particularly when a large amount of the kennedy family has come out for biden. and some even making some very strong s
it did not matter to trump. what mattered to him was the cameras would be there and he could play that like he had a good reception and he was handing out for -- standing up for something good. >> this poll shows a striking phenomenon. when you're out of the third party vote. especially rfk jr. the two- point lead that trampled over biden actually flips with five candidates in the race. biden is the one with the two- point advantage, still within the margin of error. nbc notes this...
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or trump. what does this tell you? >> it tells us what we already know and we have to see what the jury will conclude. overall right now, i would say that either side can win this case. will come down to the skill of the lawyers, how you lay out the facts will play a substantial role in terms of how the jury receives them. that is the purpose of opening statements. that is the purpose of david pecker. is how the jury here's the rest of the information. for them to have a chance have to do something they did. the admitted some guilt but not enough to face a conviction. they said yeah, we did some of the stuff but it is not really a legal. how important that has testimony becomes relies entirely on whether or not you accept that narrative from the defense. >> in the cross-examination, they tried to make the case that catch and kill practice happens all the time and was nothing special. pecker gave pretty damning examples including checkbook journalism to detect arnold schwarzenegger. what did he
or trump. what does this tell you? >> it tells us what we already know and we have to see what the jury will conclude. overall right now, i would say that either side can win this case. will come down to the skill of the lawyers, how you lay out the facts will play a substantial role in terms of how the jury receives them. that is the purpose of opening statements. that is the purpose of david pecker. is how the jury here's the rest of the information. for them to have a chance have to do...
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>> donald trump is in the courtroom. the courtroom is lrjly empty except there are some pool reporters. until they bring the prospective jurors in. that's why most of the media are in an overflow room and watching closed circuit tvs. we have a view of donald trump and his lawyers, a view of the government lawyers. >> so multicameras right. we have a view of the judge. we do not have a view of the jurors because they are trying to keep their identities anonymous. in the courtroom, he can see them and the government have a view of them and a list of their names and information. >> can you give me one word that describes your observation of donald trump? what you think he is projecting? >> i think it was interesting, the times he was engaged, laugh, or look up and taking note when someone said they had read the art of the deal. there was one juror who said she liked to watch tv at night and laughed at that. you were getting a lot of reaction but that was the sort of thing we were seeing in terms of interaction with the juro
>> donald trump is in the courtroom. the courtroom is lrjly empty except there are some pool reporters. until they bring the prospective jurors in. that's why most of the media are in an overflow room and watching closed circuit tvs. we have a view of donald trump and his lawyers, a view of the government lawyers. >> so multicameras right. we have a view of the judge. we do not have a view of the jurors because they are trying to keep their identities anonymous. in the courtroom, he...
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you can't do that with trump. he is insisting on the truth of i never slept with stormy, i never slept with mcdougal. the whole credibility, and which i think is the case, if he doesn't testify, it goes to the jury. do we believe trump, or everyone else? that is too big to wait for him to try to carry. >> yes. and pecker also testified that he spoke to hicks, as well as sanders. he was explaining to them why he tried to -- what concerns does this raise for you? and if they are somewhat involved. >> it connects the payments to some kind of benefit for the president. these are not completely unrelated personal issues. they had a very direct and practical impact on his political status as a candidate, and then even after the election. one of the things that are striking here, how many people close to the defendant, the former president will testify. part of the success candid of the hearings and our process, how many of our witnesses were longtime republicans, officials of the trump administration, people close to hi
you can't do that with trump. he is insisting on the truth of i never slept with stormy, i never slept with mcdougal. the whole credibility, and which i think is the case, if he doesn't testify, it goes to the jury. do we believe trump, or everyone else? that is too big to wait for him to try to carry. >> yes. and pecker also testified that he spoke to hicks, as well as sanders. he was explaining to them why he tried to -- what concerns does this raise for you? and if they are somewhat...
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how did trump react? >> the incident with the jury intimidation was when a juror was waubing out, trump made a remark that was audible to be heard in the overflow room and picked up on the microphones and the judge. the judge rolly went apoplectic. he was really making the case that he is not going to tolerate any juror intimitation in his courtroom. this has been a subject that has been an issue for all of trump's criminal cases for along time. trump likes to make comments about prospective witnesses and jurors. he has been going on about that on his social media account and that's partly why he will be before a contempt hearing on tuesday to answer for his social media post attacking people like michael cohen and leaking and posting articles from the new york post attacking other trial witnesses. this is going to be aneshue and it will be an issue throughout the trial. if trump can stay seated, if he can stay a proper defendant and adhere by the rules, otherwise he will find himself in a great deal of t
how did trump react? >> the incident with the jury intimidation was when a juror was waubing out, trump made a remark that was audible to be heard in the overflow room and picked up on the microphones and the judge. the judge rolly went apoplectic. he was really making the case that he is not going to tolerate any juror intimitation in his courtroom. this has been a subject that has been an issue for all of trump's criminal cases for along time. trump likes to make comments about...