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i want to go to afghanistan. we know there's going to be a plan presented to nato in the coming week. is iraq a model here? it's the surge and then withdrawal, what happened here, is this a working model, in your mind, as an analyst. i know i'm not presenting you as an expert on the situation on the ground in afghanistan, but is this a fair model? >> believe me i know more about afghanistan than i ever wanted to. i can tell you what has been done in iraq is indeed a model in the following sense, after the security situation was calmed down it became politics, and the u.s. was very much engaged in getting various sides who don't like each other a lot, don't exchange new year's greetings but nonetheless sitting down in the same room and trying to work stuff out. i think that process has actually begun in afghanistan. and i think the inspiration for it is from iraq. >> and i've got ask you one final question, afghanistan, we have karzai saying he wants to see some troops pulled out fairly as soon as, a presence lowe
i want to go to afghanistan. we know there's going to be a plan presented to nato in the coming week. is iraq a model here? it's the surge and then withdrawal, what happened here, is this a working model, in your mind, as an analyst. i know i'm not presenting you as an expert on the situation on the ground in afghanistan, but is this a fair model? >> believe me i know more about afghanistan than i ever wanted to. i can tell you what has been done in iraq is indeed a model in the following...
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and the other is afghanistan. early this morning our time, of course, it is five hours ahead in lisbon, portugal, where the president is attending the summit. there was a meeting of the 28 nato member nations. hamid karzai on the table went to transition nato forces, hand over the security, the responsibility for security of that nation to the afghans themselves. remember the controversial date, alex, july of 2011, when the president said when he reveals his new strategy about a year ago that u.s. forces would start to withdraw from afghanistan. that's still the case. they are still standing by that, but there's a new emphasis now, that's 2014. by the end of 2014 say nato and president obama, then afghans should be able to stand up on their own and take care of security. and they are still seeing a controversy over how many nato forces remain after that. and the other controversy, s.t.a.r.t. the russian president dmetry medvedev is meeting with countries as well. of course, john kyl, the republican senator from ar
and the other is afghanistan. early this morning our time, of course, it is five hours ahead in lisbon, portugal, where the president is attending the summit. there was a meeting of the 28 nato member nations. hamid karzai on the table went to transition nato forces, hand over the security, the responsibility for security of that nation to the afghans themselves. remember the controversial date, alex, july of 2011, when the president said when he reveals his new strategy about a year ago that...
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when we come back, should relief afghanistan immediately? should we arrest the top anchors in the country. those fun questions get answered, and a pastor urges his congregation to get the hell off of facebook. that's next on msnbc. teaming up to bring you a low-price medicare prescription drug plan called the humana walmart-preferred prescription plan. it's a new plan that covers both brand and generic prescriptions and has the lowest-priced national premium in the country of only $14.80 per month and in-store copays as low as $2. when you could save over $450 a year, you can focus on the things that really matter. ♪ go to walmart.com for details. ♪ [ le announcer ] don't let aches anslow you down. morning introducing bayer am. its dual-action formula delivers extra strength pain relief, plus it fights fatigue. so get up and get going with new bayer am, the morning pain reliever. >>> we're leaving afghanistan in 2014. that's the main message from the white house today. that u.s. troops will stick to a time line to leave the war that's no
when we come back, should relief afghanistan immediately? should we arrest the top anchors in the country. those fun questions get answered, and a pastor urges his congregation to get the hell off of facebook. that's next on msnbc. teaming up to bring you a low-price medicare prescription drug plan called the humana walmart-preferred prescription plan. it's a new plan that covers both brand and generic prescriptions and has the lowest-priced national premium in the country of only $14.80 per...
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war in afghanistan ends. which means we're going to very quickly change gears in this country from nobody talk about the war in afghanistan to everybody freak out about the war in afghanistan. we started to see a preview of this from republican senator john mccain this weekend. where else? on "meet the press," after david axelrod broached the idea of a drawdown of u.s. troops in afghanistan. >> you just heard david axelrod say any withdrawal would be condition-based. >> i would like to see the president say it's only condition-based. according to mr. woodward's book, his problem is the base of the democratic party. you win and then you leave, and that's what we've done in iraq. >> that statement from john mccain is so perfect in so many ways. first of all, he's already setting the stage that no matter what president obama will say this week habit leaving afghanistan, john mccain is already against it because it's from the liberal left. also, what exactly does he think we did in iraq? >> i'd like to see the pr
war in afghanistan ends. which means we're going to very quickly change gears in this country from nobody talk about the war in afghanistan to everybody freak out about the war in afghanistan. we started to see a preview of this from republican senator john mccain this weekend. where else? on "meet the press," after david axelrod broached the idea of a drawdown of u.s. troops in afghanistan. >> you just heard david axelrod say any withdrawal would be condition-based. >> i...
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frankly afghanistan wasn't an issue in the recent election and the economy was. >> i certainly wish afghanistan was a larger point as well. i was disappointed to see. to brian's point, the bush administration may not have fought the afghan war correctly. fine. and it's good that we're going into pakistan and taking on elements there. those are all good things. but that doesn't mean -- why would we abandon afghanistan? what part of abandoning afghanistan is positive? >> this is going to come across as antiwar and i don't know what. i don't know what the mission is. i don't know why we're still there. i don't know why we're spending all this money. bin laden is not there. he's in the tribal regions of pakistan. that's where place we're not, where we should be. >> absolutely. and we're spending about $100 billion this year in afghanistan. and that actually is the amount we spend on the department of homeland security and all intelligence agencies kboin y i. when you're getting your pat-down on thanksgiving, it's all of that. we need to realign our priorities to yemen and pakistan and other places.
frankly afghanistan wasn't an issue in the recent election and the economy was. >> i certainly wish afghanistan was a larger point as well. i was disappointed to see. to brian's point, the bush administration may not have fought the afghan war correctly. fine. and it's good that we're going into pakistan and taking on elements there. those are all good things. but that doesn't mean -- why would we abandon afghanistan? what part of abandoning afghanistan is positive? >> this is going...
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no representation of al-qaeda even left in afghanistan. >> it's not about how many members are in afghanistan. there's in fantasy land, this idea that folks think that we can just leave and if we do, things will get better or al-qaeda's not there anymore so they won't come back. they'll come back. we've seen this before. either commit now and get it down in a strategy the president has laid forward, or pass this problem to the next generation. >> it's like ground hog day. brian, what are we missing? >> i think one thing we're missing and you've talked about this, we've talked about this, the simple fact that 3,000 americans is the simple fact is that 3,000 americans were killed on 9/11. we're inst afghanistan because that. the previous administration didn't get the job done. it actually distracted country by going into an unnecessary war in iraq and now we're actually got to get bin laden and this administration the obama administration's committed more resources in doing that and rather than being passive like the bush administration in pakistan, we actually are much more aggressive there an
no representation of al-qaeda even left in afghanistan. >> it's not about how many members are in afghanistan. there's in fantasy land, this idea that folks think that we can just leave and if we do, things will get better or al-qaeda's not there anymore so they won't come back. they'll come back. we've seen this before. either commit now and get it down in a strategy the president has laid forward, or pass this problem to the next generation. >> it's like ground hog day. brian,...
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there's no anbar awakening in afghanistan. the taliban seems to be on the up-and-up, and there seems to be a huge emphasis of talking to the right elements of the taliban, if you talk to the ordinary afghans who benefitted enormously from the nato occupation, they don't want to deal with the taliban, because we want our daughters to go to school, we want women to be able to work. there's an awful lot at stake here and there's real fear that some sort of shoddy deal will be made down the line so nato can withdraw with a fig leaf of degnyty. >> you mentioned the afghans, but president karzai is ushering in thisdate saying we don't want you anymore. >> he's mercurial to say the least, he seems to be changing his mind almost on a daily base, and he's a very tricky ally to deal with, everyone is tearing their hair out about what you can expect from president karzai, there was the fraud in the elections, he's difficult to work with, but he's the ally you have. you go to war with the army you have, not the army you want. do you remem
there's no anbar awakening in afghanistan. the taliban seems to be on the up-and-up, and there seems to be a huge emphasis of talking to the right elements of the taliban, if you talk to the ordinary afghans who benefitted enormously from the nato occupation, they don't want to deal with the taliban, because we want our daughters to go to school, we want women to be able to work. there's an awful lot at stake here and there's real fear that some sort of shoddy deal will be made down the line so...
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troops in afghanistan. but will it bring them home anytime soon? it is a deal on airport screening, but you'll have to go through the invasive searches. >>> fighting back, a restaurant customer hopes this video will help her extract revenge on those who helped send her to the slammer. >>> plus, where is wesley? >>> and good morning, everyone. i'm alex witt where it's 9:00 here on the east coast. let's get to what's happening out in respect nato officials are embracing a four-year time frame for afghan forces to take over control of their country's security. that formal endorsement came just from this morning. under the plan, coalition forces will begin withdrawing next year. mike is live for us at the white house and lester holt is live for us in afghanistan. we'll go long distance, lester, and begin with you. how would you size up the implications of today's nato agreement? >> well, i think it val dates what we have seen here on the ground, alex, and that is the fact that there are afghan forces taking on greater and greater roles. the transition
troops in afghanistan. but will it bring them home anytime soon? it is a deal on airport screening, but you'll have to go through the invasive searches. >>> fighting back, a restaurant customer hopes this video will help her extract revenge on those who helped send her to the slammer. >>> plus, where is wesley? >>> and good morning, everyone. i'm alex witt where it's 9:00 here on the east coast. let's get to what's happening out in respect nato officials are embracing...
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nbc news richard engel is live in afghanistan. the report now is that the pentagon is confirming it is sending heavily armored tanks into battle for the first time. what does that mean? >> well, it won't change the direction of the war, and, tamron, i am right on the flight line here. the military is sending in a company of tanks. they'll be going to southern afghanistan, to helman province. that is not a division of tanks. it is not going to alter the way the war is being fought. but it is a sign that instead of counter insurgency operations, hearts and minds operations, they intend to carry this much more aggressively. >> richard, what about the reports that as the u.s. and nato allies look at the strategy that the taliban is escalating in its intensity and aggression as well. >> and it's really important to keep this all in context with that very important announcement that the end of combat operations will come toward the end of 2014. right now american and nato troops are operating at a surge capacity. there are roughly 100,0
nbc news richard engel is live in afghanistan. the report now is that the pentagon is confirming it is sending heavily armored tanks into battle for the first time. what does that mean? >> well, it won't change the direction of the war, and, tamron, i am right on the flight line here. the military is sending in a company of tanks. they'll be going to southern afghanistan, to helman province. that is not a division of tanks. it is not going to alter the way the war is being fought. but it...
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fashion in afghanistan to provide stability, so at the end of the day, there was no discussion about a difference between petraeus and karzai in terms of strategy. >> and graham, a member of the senate armed services committee, weighed in on reports of a new time frame for afghanistan saying 2014 was a more realistic date than the july 2011 deadline president obama had set for beginning a withdraw. >> i think in summer 2011 we can bring some troops home but we will need a substantial number past that. 2014 is the right date to talk about. that's when karzai suggested afghans will be in the lead. i'm very pleased to hear president obama talk about 2014. >> the full plan for afghanistan is expected to be presented at a nato sum police that meets in pore -- summit that meets in portugal this week. >>> president obama is praising israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu for trying to win approval from his cabinet on a new proposal to freeze construction in the disputed west bank. the plan would see israel enforce a ban on construction for 90 days. in exchange, washington would give isra
fashion in afghanistan to provide stability, so at the end of the day, there was no discussion about a difference between petraeus and karzai in terms of strategy. >> and graham, a member of the senate armed services committee, weighed in on reports of a new time frame for afghanistan saying 2014 was a more realistic date than the july 2011 deadline president obama had set for beginning a withdraw. >> i think in summer 2011 we can bring some troops home but we will need a...
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the combat mission there in afghanistan. you mentioned already the longest conflict in american history. it was very controversial last year on december 1st when the president made his speech at west point unveiling his new afghan strategy saying that u.s. forces would begin to withdraw in july of next year, a lot of credit sichl for that, a lot of mixed message criticism from capitol hill and republicans as well. that's still in force. but now an end to combat operations by the end of 2014. the white house has been talking about it. nato secretary-general has been talking about it. but there's a question as to whether or not that is a guarantee. even the secretary-general said if the situation in afghanistan were such that afghan forces and military and police forces could not take over security of that nation, then we'd have to have another look at it. similarly u.s. officials talking on background said that they had not necessarily committed to a hard end to combat operations in -- at the end of 2014. so the controversy c
the combat mission there in afghanistan. you mentioned already the longest conflict in american history. it was very controversial last year on december 1st when the president made his speech at west point unveiling his new afghan strategy saying that u.s. forces would begin to withdraw in july of next year, a lot of credit sichl for that, a lot of mixed message criticism from capitol hill and republicans as well. that's still in force. but now an end to combat operations by the end of 2014....
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i'd cite afghanistan. we bailed out of afghanistan after the russians were defeated. who came into the vacuum? it was the taliban and al qaeda and we paid a big price. people have that in their minds as they should. i'm not sure this is as different from what we knew a week ago as you're saying. i think it's pretty much the same in terms of the numbers of troops that will be involved. >> david, it's katty here. one of petraeus's arguments is americans are on the verge of doing something that hasn't been done before in afghanistan which is effectively success, that they are changing the game. they are winning over the taliban into negotiations and if they could stay a little bit longer, then actually they could achieve something there. centuries show that hasn't been very possible before. do you think that's true? is that a realistic assessment? >> it's impossible form me to say, katty, without having been there. i'll be there again next month. general petraeus's en thus hasn't seemed to be clearly anchored in real reports from the battlefield. the last that we knew, t
i'd cite afghanistan. we bailed out of afghanistan after the russians were defeated. who came into the vacuum? it was the taliban and al qaeda and we paid a big price. people have that in their minds as they should. i'm not sure this is as different from what we knew a week ago as you're saying. i think it's pretty much the same in terms of the numbers of troops that will be involved. >> david, it's katty here. one of petraeus's arguments is americans are on the verge of doing something...
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karzai is here, president of afghanistan. he's of course got his own opinions, talked about the idea of u.s. combat forces pulling out even faster. so the question is, will nato sign off on this? remember the war is not very popular in the united states right now, even more unpopular in a lot of places -- in aloft nato nations. >> chuck todd, thanks a lot for the update. >>> the countdown is on for a full house vote for charlie rangel's punishment for breaking the house rules. yes, i'm in the dark. let there be light. nbc's luke russert is live on capitol hill. it's interesting how when i say things they just magically appear. let's talk about rangel. the house panel has recommended censure. what happens now with the vote in the house? >> reporter: well, contessa, the house committee recommended the punishment of sen sure, the second most severe punishment they can recommend. it's only happened 22 times in the history of the house and hasn't happened since 1983. what exactly happens now is the censure motion will go to the ho
karzai is here, president of afghanistan. he's of course got his own opinions, talked about the idea of u.s. combat forces pulling out even faster. so the question is, will nato sign off on this? remember the war is not very popular in the united states right now, even more unpopular in a lot of places -- in aloft nato nations. >> chuck todd, thanks a lot for the update. >>> the countdown is on for a full house vote for charlie rangel's punishment for breaking the house rules....
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we thought afghanistan was an unwinnable war. we didn't think the president should have given the generals three times the troops. and i didn't say this to you, but i told other high-ranking officials, you're going to get your troops, and then the generals, they're going to have their way with you, and they're going to keep pushing that date out and -- and it's happened. we've gone from 2011 to the end of 2014. >> no. >> we can't stay there for another four or five years, can we? >> no. i don't think we can stay there for five years with 100,000 american forces 150,000 nato or isaf forces combined. but, joe, what we said back last thanksgiving and repeated again and we've gotten the living devil beat out of us by good friends like john mccain and others, we said, look, beginning the summer of 2011, we're going to begin the transition. we're going to begin the transition out of iraq -- i mean, afghanistan. >> right. >> we are going to begin to transition. we're keeping that commitment. that commitment will be kept. we said the pac
we thought afghanistan was an unwinnable war. we didn't think the president should have given the generals three times the troops. and i didn't say this to you, but i told other high-ranking officials, you're going to get your troops, and then the generals, they're going to have their way with you, and they're going to keep pushing that date out and -- and it's happened. we've gone from 2011 to the end of 2014. >> no. >> we can't stay there for another four or five years, can we?...
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or army and lose or risk his or her life in afghanistan. why? >> it's the toughest question of all and tough in any war no matter how much one believes in the cost because of the way war, the cruelty and randomness of war and in this war particularly because so many of the casualties are from improvised explosive devices, ieds. you can't say anything which undoes the loss. it's impossible. the fact that it's not a draftee war, but a professional army war makes a big difference. people signed up knowing they were risking their lives. the individual commitment on the part of the troops. their commitment to the nation, their buddies, is extraordinarily high and a palpable difference from the era of vietnam which i remember so well. >> this is a story we are very fo focused on here. >> your program is one of the reasons i like to come on is whether i agree or not with your comments, which are mainly critical, i think you've made your program the epicenter of the discussion of afghanistan and i would add pakistan, which we talked about last time on t
or army and lose or risk his or her life in afghanistan. why? >> it's the toughest question of all and tough in any war no matter how much one believes in the cost because of the way war, the cruelty and randomness of war and in this war particularly because so many of the casualties are from improvised explosive devices, ieds. you can't say anything which undoes the loss. it's impossible. the fact that it's not a draftee war, but a professional army war makes a big difference. people...
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a total in these nine years of 1,400 americans dying in afghanistan. and there's no doubt that each one of those deaths have families. they have friends that are today remembering them and likely remembering them every day. >>> well, disappointment for president obama at the g-20 economic summit in south korea. despite intense efforts, the u.s. and south korea failed to reach agreements on a long-sought trade deal. american men and women on south korea. the g-20 summit concludes tomorrow. then the president heads to japan. >>> and there's word president obama may in fact be ready to agree on an extension of all bush era tax cuts, including those for the upper income earners. nbc's mike viqueira joins us live from the white house. this is based on a new interview with david axelrod. >> reporter: right, in the huffington post. virtually since the time the polls closed on november 2nd, the white house has let it be know from the podium and robert gibbs, and now this interview with top counselor david axelrod and the huffington post that they would be open
a total in these nine years of 1,400 americans dying in afghanistan. and there's no doubt that each one of those deaths have families. they have friends that are today remembering them and likely remembering them every day. >>> well, disappointment for president obama at the g-20 economic summit in south korea. despite intense efforts, the u.s. and south korea failed to reach agreements on a long-sought trade deal. american men and women on south korea. the g-20 summit concludes...
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and afghanistan, the u.s. pays tribute to the sacrifices they are making. ♪ >>> vice president biden at arlington national cemetery this morning. laying a wreath at the tomb of the unknowns. >>> a afghanistan, u.s. and nato forces remember their fallen comrades. >>> in germany first lady michelle obama serving food to soldiers and their families. while in south korea, today, from the g-20 summit, president obama saluted u.s. troops. >> we salute fallen heroes and keep in our prayers those who are still in harm's way. we also remember that honoring those who serve is about more than the words we say on veterans day or memorial day. it's about how we treat our veterans every single day of the year. >>> this hour, how are we meeting the challenge of taking care of our men and women in uniform? with tammy duckworth from the department of federal affairs. >>> korea, a failed trade deal. and the exit strategy from afghanistan. with former bush national security adviser steven hadley. >>> the gaping budget deficit
and afghanistan, the u.s. pays tribute to the sacrifices they are making. ♪ >>> vice president biden at arlington national cemetery this morning. laying a wreath at the tomb of the unknowns. >>> a afghanistan, u.s. and nato forces remember their fallen comrades. >>> in germany first lady michelle obama serving food to soldiers and their families. while in south korea, today, from the g-20 summit, president obama saluted u.s. troops. >> we salute fallen heroes...
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the president meets with the heads of afghanistan nato. when will u.s. troops be out. >>> the patdown controversy. the tsa is making a key change, but it won't affect flyers during the busiest time of the year. >>> deadly mistake. authorities take action after the accidental euthanasia of a hero war dog. >>> plus the sky's the limit. we'll introduce you to a new farming concept that could help feed the world. >>> good morning, everyone. i'm alex witt. those advanced patdowns and body scanners at airports. now the tsa has announced it is making a change to those rules. we're joined with all the details. good saturday morning. this new change in policy only affects a really small group of people, right? >> that's right. airline passengers will still be subjected to the rigorous patdowns and the full body scans but not pilots. the tsa is exempting pilots from the advanced procedures though they'll still have to go through metal detectors and have to show company and government issued i.d.s. that has others legs and used her hand to go up my skirt, that's wh
the president meets with the heads of afghanistan nato. when will u.s. troops be out. >>> the patdown controversy. the tsa is making a key change, but it won't affect flyers during the busiest time of the year. >>> deadly mistake. authorities take action after the accidental euthanasia of a hero war dog. >>> plus the sky's the limit. we'll introduce you to a new farming concept that could help feed the world. >>> good morning, everyone. i'm alex witt. those...
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operations in afghanistan. senator joe lieberman is senior member of the armed services committee, and just returned from the war zones in iraq and afghanistan. senator, thank you very much. first let's go to this dispute. hamid karzai calls "the washington post" saying he wants the footprint of u.s. troops reduced almost immediately. general pap tray is clearly concerned in sunday meetings saying that -- that that would not make -- make his work even possible. he expressed "astonishment and disappointment" that karzai's position made his own untenable. what is your reaction to this? what do we do with hamid karzai? >> well i share general petraeus' surprise and disappointment. i mean, this strategy we're following is one that we have agreed on with the afghans and it's -- we're being tough on the bad guys, on the taliban, on al qaeda in afghanistan, but we're doing it to try to protect the lives of the great majority of the afghan people. as far as i could tell on my trip talking to a lot of them way out into
operations in afghanistan. senator joe lieberman is senior member of the armed services committee, and just returned from the war zones in iraq and afghanistan. senator, thank you very much. first let's go to this dispute. hamid karzai calls "the washington post" saying he wants the footprint of u.s. troops reduced almost immediately. general pap tray is clearly concerned in sunday meetings saying that -- that that would not make -- make his work even possible. he expressed...
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it's for all these people, from iraq and afghanistan. all these unsung heros. >> and his remarks remind us of what you wrote. we wear the honor less for ourselves than those who can't. >> if you talk to any medal of honor recipient, he'll tell you the same thing. he doesn't wear it for himself. he wears it for those who can't, those who didn't come back. many more people were also valorous on the field of battle. >> he was 25 when this incident happened. he's 27 now. >> he seems really young to me. >> but you were 23. >> i was 23 at the time. my father served in the second world war. he was 26. they called him the old man. >> we are watching now. let's toss to this even happening now. president obama is about to approach. let's watch this moment in our history. >> let us pray. all mighty and merciful god in whom we place our trust. we invite your holy presence as we gather as a nation to honor the extraordinary actions above and beyond the call of duty render by staff sergeant salvador giunta. an american soldier, patriot and hero. our h
it's for all these people, from iraq and afghanistan. all these unsung heros. >> and his remarks remind us of what you wrote. we wear the honor less for ourselves than those who can't. >> if you talk to any medal of honor recipient, he'll tell you the same thing. he doesn't wear it for himself. he wears it for those who can't, those who didn't come back. many more people were also valorous on the field of battle. >> he was 25 when this incident happened. he's 27 now. >>...
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michelle o'rourke's husband is serving in afghanistan with the 101st airborne division. how many times has he been over there? >> this is his fourth deployment with operation iraqi freedom and with operation enduring freedom. >> so he's been to afghanistan and in iraq. what does that do to your relationship, to see every year or every 18 months to see him leave for that period of time? >> it's hard to admit this, but we've kind of gotten used to it, sadly, but it is a strain. it's very stressful. it's hard, but we are committed to our marriage and committed to his career as a soldier. so we make it work. >> michelle, we're showing pictures right now of your baby boy, 15 months old, is that right? >> yes. >> and so this time around he had to leave not only you behind but little william as well. did that change your perspective on seeing him leave? >> yes. it did. when he left back in the spring, will was not even 8 months old. just crawling, not talking. and he actually came home last month for his two weeks of r&r and came home not to a baby but to a little boy who's tal
michelle o'rourke's husband is serving in afghanistan with the 101st airborne division. how many times has he been over there? >> this is his fourth deployment with operation iraqi freedom and with operation enduring freedom. >> so he's been to afghanistan and in iraq. what does that do to your relationship, to see every year or every 18 months to see him leave for that period of time? >> it's hard to admit this, but we've kind of gotten used to it, sadly, but it is a strain....
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you were in iraq and afghanistan. you just heard david axelrod say any withdrawal will be conditions based. is that not enough to satisfy you? >> well i'd like to see the president say it's only condition based. according to mr. woodward's book his problem is the political, the left base of the democrat party. you don't fight and conduct wars that way. you win and then you leave. that's what we've done in iraq and the fact is the perception is amongst friends and enemies alike that we may be leaving and that has caused them to make certain accommodations because they can't leave. just a fact. down to the governor, down to the police chief level. they say, yes, the taliban are telling us we're leaving and they're going to cut off our heads. famous captive, taliban captive said to his american interrogator you've got the watches. we've got the time. >> hamid karzai whom you met with says in "the washington post" this morning that it's time for the u.s. to reduce the intrusiveness in the daily afghan life, that they ough
you were in iraq and afghanistan. you just heard david axelrod say any withdrawal will be conditions based. is that not enough to satisfy you? >> well i'd like to see the president say it's only condition based. according to mr. woodward's book his problem is the political, the left base of the democrat party. you don't fight and conduct wars that way. you win and then you leave. that's what we've done in iraq and the fact is the perception is amongst friends and enemies alike that we may...
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position in afghanistan. it is a nato mission, as you know, and so the countries there are very interested in the outcome and when security is going to be handed over to afghanistan forces. by the end of 2014, the afghan security forces, the goal is now to have them stand up on their own and have them take care of their own security, police and military. you remember, of course, the controversy coming and going, waxing and waning over the course of the last year ever since president obama announced his afghan strategy to have u.s. forces to begin to pull out by july of next year, of 2011. that's still the case, begin to pull out. the emphasis, also now the emphasis on this new end of 2014 and even now, i was just watching a press conference from lisbon before i came out here, nato officials are emphasizing that they won't leave afghanistan in the lurch if they are is now unable to take over that role. so a little ambiguity there. and on the s.t.a.r.t. treaty, president obama had a meeting with a lot of former
position in afghanistan. it is a nato mission, as you know, and so the countries there are very interested in the outcome and when security is going to be handed over to afghanistan forces. by the end of 2014, the afghan security forces, the goal is now to have them stand up on their own and have them take care of their own security, police and military. you remember, of course, the controversy coming and going, waxing and waning over the course of the last year ever since president obama...
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they are working to hard in afghanistan today. i was lucky enough to go to the south and visit with the 10th mountain division, which are stationed out of ft. drum in new york state. the work they're doing is extraordinary. they're giving opportunity to the afghan people. i was able to visit successes that we had in the south, in particular where open markets were now in business for selling produce and other products. i was able to visit a school. we are creating a possibility for peace and stability in that country. to your question, i have grave concerns about president karzai, because of his record. and because of the sometimes apparent unwillingness to crack down on corruption. we cannot sustain the successes that we've had if we can't have rule of law in afghanistan. there are instances where we have evidence of corrupt government officials, the drug trade going on, all of these elements of corruption. we need a judicial system that con prosecute these criminals and then give them sentences without fear of reprimand or fear
they are working to hard in afghanistan today. i was lucky enough to go to the south and visit with the 10th mountain division, which are stationed out of ft. drum in new york state. the work they're doing is extraordinary. they're giving opportunity to the afghan people. i was able to visit successes that we had in the south, in particular where open markets were now in business for selling produce and other products. i was able to visit a school. we are creating a possibility for peace and...
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military policy in afghanistan. he's now director of the afghanistan study group. good to see you. thanks for being here. >> thanks, chris. >> officials in both washington and kabul told "the washington post" think is karzai undermining petraeus, making his position untenable. do you agree with that? and, second, what do you think president karzai's up to? >> well, first of all i think that our current policy is untenable. this is a continuation of policy we've had in place for several years now. we have a different general there. we have more troops. but the same policy of trying to pacify the rural parts of southern and eastern afghanistan, and it's not being successful. we have stepped up these night raids, we've done a lot of other things in terms of special ops or increasing troop presence and all we do is see the taliban gain in popularity, gain in strength. >> as you know, matthew, the military says the night raids are working that they are helping. >> you know i just don't see that, chris, because if that was the case, we would have seen a commensurate effect on the taliban
military policy in afghanistan. he's now director of the afghanistan study group. good to see you. thanks for being here. >> thanks, chris. >> officials in both washington and kabul told "the washington post" think is karzai undermining petraeus, making his position untenable. do you agree with that? and, second, what do you think president karzai's up to? >> well, first of all i think that our current policy is untenable. this is a continuation of policy we've had...
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>> we are not fighting al-qaeda in afghanistan. there is almost no al-qaeda in afghanistan. we are fighting taliban and taliban's a misnomer because when we say that, we are talking about a huge collection, a very wide collection of mainly groups that have local issues, local grieve enss. people who are upset about being occupied, people upset about being governored by an unrepresented government. maybe we've put their rivals into power. so yes, almost nothing -- there is almost no reason why our troops are dying today as you can reality to 9/11 in afghanistan. >> if i could add to that quickly, this is what al-qaeda wants. they want to bog us down and bleed us. this is their game plan. we are unfortunately playing right into it at this point in time. >> and back to what we were talking about, the tanks. when i was in anbar, we had tanks. one time, we got hit hard and the tanks came to our rescue. we love tankers. however, it wasn't the tanks that turned things around. if we had sent 200 more and didn't do the political efforts, didn't talk to the insurgency, that this has g
>> we are not fighting al-qaeda in afghanistan. there is almost no al-qaeda in afghanistan. we are fighting taliban and taliban's a misnomer because when we say that, we are talking about a huge collection, a very wide collection of mainly groups that have local issues, local grieve enss. people who are upset about being occupied, people upset about being governored by an unrepresented government. maybe we've put their rivals into power. so yes, almost nothing -- there is almost no reason...
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we will go live to afghanistan, as well, for veterans day with the troops just a short while from now. >>> pictures of diseased organs, corpses, rotting teeth, cancer patients on their death beds. if it sounds shocking, it is and that's exactly what the fda intended. the government is getting graphic in its push to cut the number of american smokers. under a new plan, images of toe tags, tombstones and even babies surrounded by smoke would all be placed on cigarette packages. if the tobacco companies refuse, their products would be pulled from the shelves. a new chapter in the ongoing debate about health, choice and the role of government. a professor of medicine and director of center of tobacco control research. good morning, thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> we all know smoking is a serious problem. i think about 21% of the nation's population smokes. it is still the leading cause of preventable death with something like 443,000 americans dying each year. but given that this is an addiction, is it going to work? will putting pictures on packages of cigarettes
we will go live to afghanistan, as well, for veterans day with the troops just a short while from now. >>> pictures of diseased organs, corpses, rotting teeth, cancer patients on their death beds. if it sounds shocking, it is and that's exactly what the fda intended. the government is getting graphic in its push to cut the number of american smokers. under a new plan, images of toe tags, tombstones and even babies surrounded by smoke would all be placed on cigarette packages. if the...
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. >>> a bipartisan group of senators visiting afghanistan say coalition forces have made substantial progress since president obama ordered 30,000 additional troops there last summer. however, they also warn that american forces will remain in afghanistan through 2014, well past the july 2011 target date that president had set. senator john mccain urged president obama to clarify his administration's plans for a troop withdrawal. >> it's wrong to set the date of july of mid 2011. sent the wrong message and created a problem. and we need to have the president of the united states state unequivocally that it will be solely condition based. and so i worry a great deal about the effect. not only here but it encourages our enemies and discourages our friends. >> and senator joe leberman of connecticut says politicians on both sides of the aisle understand that any drawdown would depend on conditions on the ground. >> when president obama announced a searurge of troops afghanistan, he said what happened in july 2011 would be based on conditions on the ground. america is not going -- we're
. >>> a bipartisan group of senators visiting afghanistan say coalition forces have made substantial progress since president obama ordered 30,000 additional troops there last summer. however, they also warn that american forces will remain in afghanistan through 2014, well past the july 2011 target date that president had set. senator john mccain urged president obama to clarify his administration's plans for a troop withdrawal. >> it's wrong to set the date of july of mid 2011....
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changing the way it's dealing with afghanistan. did one have anything to do with the other? >> reporter: those remarks got the attention of military and pentagon officials overt weekend. when hamid karzai wanted the u.s. military to end nighttime operations and special forces raids and actually reduce the overall footprint of american troop there's in afghanistan, and one senior pentagon official told me this morning, this raises new questions about karzai's reliability as a partner in the way ahead in the war in afghanistan, but most officials i talked to, they say they've got reassurances from the karzai government that karzai said these things for domestic political purposes. that he's getting beaten up politically there in kabul for some of the u.s. military operations, and the overall presence of troop there's in afghanistan, and they felt that it had something to say now. the timing is not really good, because the u.s. and nato are about to reveal this new overall strategy in lisbon later this week, at which point the new strategy is that beginning in july 2011, you re
changing the way it's dealing with afghanistan. did one have anything to do with the other? >> reporter: those remarks got the attention of military and pentagon officials overt weekend. when hamid karzai wanted the u.s. military to end nighttime operations and special forces raids and actually reduce the overall footprint of american troop there's in afghanistan, and one senior pentagon official told me this morning, this raises new questions about karzai's reliability as a partner in...
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news communists have veterans in afghanistan and iraq. there are people all over america today who listen to glenn beck who now believe iava is a communist front group because glenn beck said so. they are not a communist group. they don't have a commucommunist. they have do not take money from move on or fox men. even if they did, it would still be the patriotic equivalent of a mortal sin to do what glenn beck did this week when he in totally made-up detail launched this 100% false attack on iraq and afghanistan veterans of america. a nonpartisan group that does nothing wrong and nothing like what all glenn beck's listeners now think they do. i generally try to be of good cheer when it comes to people being dumb in the media. this is just disgusting. leave the veterans alone. d she'n with no protective gear? her hands could dry out. [ female announcer ] dawn hand renewal with olay beauty. it helps your hands seal in moisture while you do the dishes. dawn does more... [ spongecaster ] so it's not a chore. we fill them with extraordinary cr
news communists have veterans in afghanistan and iraq. there are people all over america today who listen to glenn beck who now believe iava is a communist front group because glenn beck said so. they are not a communist group. they don't have a commucommunist. they have do not take money from move on or fox men. even if they did, it would still be the patriotic equivalent of a mortal sin to do what glenn beck did this week when he in totally made-up detail launched this 100% false attack on...
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war strategy in afghanistan. in a washington post port-au-prince interview this weekend, he said he wanted to reduce military operations and end special operation raids. however those raids are a key part of the u.s. counterinsurgency strategy. according to the "post" general david petraeus expressed, quote, astonishment and disappointment with his remarks. >>> according to this morning's "new york times" the obama administration will be laying out a plan this week that aims to end the american combat mission in afghanistan by 2014. the u.s. would start handing over security duties to afghan forces over the next 18 to 24 months. >>> president obama is praising israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu for trying to win approval from his cabinet of a proposal to freeze construction in the disputed west bank. the plan would see israel and force a construction ban for 90 days. in exchange washington would give israel military aid and support of the united nations. if approved by the israeli government, the deal coul
war strategy in afghanistan. in a washington post port-au-prince interview this weekend, he said he wanted to reduce military operations and end special operation raids. however those raids are a key part of the u.s. counterinsurgency strategy. according to the "post" general david petraeus expressed, quote, astonishment and disappointment with his remarks. >>> according to this morning's "new york times" the obama administration will be laying out a plan this week...
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next, also, we're live in afghanistan where u.s. forces are honoring service members past and present on this veterans day. >>> first, let's do washington speak and veterans day washington speak. armistice day. until 1954 veterans day was known at armistice day. history here. on the 11th hour ever the 11th day of the 11th month ever 1918, armistice was declared to end the fighting between germany and the allied nations in the first world war, the war to end all wars, the following year, november 11, 1919, the event was kplemerated as armistice day became a legal holiday in 1938 and prez eisenhower signed legislation changes the flame to veterans day as a way to honor those who served in all american wars. >>> washington speak you'd like to us clarify, send an e-mail. "daily rundown" on msnbc.com. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ i was young and i was stupid ♪ i had just turned 17 ♪ a harmonica and a box guitar ♪ ♪ in a canvas-covered wagon stuffed... ♪ [ male announcer ] while the world's been waiting on the electric car, mayb
next, also, we're live in afghanistan where u.s. forces are honoring service members past and present on this veterans day. >>> first, let's do washington speak and veterans day washington speak. armistice day. until 1954 veterans day was known at armistice day. history here. on the 11th hour ever the 11th day of the 11th month ever 1918, armistice was declared to end the fighting between germany and the allied nations in the first world war, the war to end all wars, the following...
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military is rolling armored tanks against insurgents in afghanistan. coalition forces are at peak levels dropping a record number of bombs carrying out far more raids. several hundred insurgents have been captured or killed. still, president obama is keeping a close eye on the way out. >> i look forward to working with our nato and our partners as we move towards a new phase, a transition to afghan responsibility that begins in 2011 with afghan forces taking the lead for security across afghanistan by 2014. >> let's bring in msnbc military analyst and retired army general barry mccaffrey and also with us, richard engel live from bahgram air base in afghanistan. richard, let me start with you. the comments from the president about 2014 and turning over security and just a few moments ago at the nato summit. tell me where things stand right now on the ground. >> no surprises here. that was the expectation. that is the american plan and, obviously, that could change. we're told it is conditioned based. right now we are in the mist of a surge. about 100,00
military is rolling armored tanks against insurgents in afghanistan. coalition forces are at peak levels dropping a record number of bombs carrying out far more raids. several hundred insurgents have been captured or killed. still, president obama is keeping a close eye on the way out. >> i look forward to working with our nato and our partners as we move towards a new phase, a transition to afghan responsibility that begins in 2011 with afghan forces taking the lead for security across...
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afghanistan. >> well, it is not going that well. intelligence is not very good. there are leaks in intelligence as we heard an hour ago talking to people on the ground. there's corruption. you don't know when the taliban will attack and you don't know who inside is supporting it. and we are going to go after major targets like airfields and so on, even though the base of the taliban, the places they recruit and train is out in the country side. >> what are the main obstacles to secures afghanistan? >> corruption. government corruption. a large majority of the money that goes into the country winds up some place else because that's how things are done there. and, you know, for sure that's the case. second, there's not going to be any rule from kabul. it has never been like that in the country in the history of the world. people with places like kand hah and up in the mountains next to pakistan won't submit to oil authority in kabul. they will only submit to authority of the triable leaders. >> thank you much. >>> the ipad is getting new competition. how does the n
afghanistan. >> well, it is not going that well. intelligence is not very good. there are leaks in intelligence as we heard an hour ago talking to people on the ground. there's corruption. you don't know when the taliban will attack and you don't know who inside is supporting it. and we are going to go after major targets like airfields and so on, even though the base of the taliban, the places they recruit and train is out in the country side. >> what are the main obstacles to...
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leaders are expected to decide on the shift in strategy in afghanistan including a timetable for the gradual withdrawal of most of nato's 150,000 troops within four years. against that backdrop, this morning's "usa today" reporting that coalition forces have increased the pace of military operations in afghanistan, ramping up attacks on the taliban to record levels since this war began nine years ago. the other items on the president's agenda this weekend include discussion of a missile defense shield to protect europe and north america. and as he meets with his e.u. counterparts, officials say obama will seek to reaffirm his partnership with europe, which some claim has suffered as the united states expands its ties with asia. get over it, europe, you're fine. >>> meanwhile, president obama insists that republicans continue to block passage of a new arms reduction deal with russia. they will endanger this country. speaking at a white house meeting with becomers of the so-called -- backers of the so-called new start treaty, obama called on congress to act now. [ inaudible ] >> obviou
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i'll make that determination when i get there. >> nbc's lester holt is there live in afghanistan. with a good day to you, what steps are we taking to make that 2014 goal a reality? >> well, there is a transition process that's been under way for quite some time where the president's proclamation, it has been filtering around here at bagram airfield and around afghanistan. soldiers and commanders all trying to make some sense of what this means for them on the military standpoint. major john campbell, head of the 101st airborne division says they're on good pace, that four years from now doesn't worry him at all. he says they continue to make very good progress here on the military front and also on the front that probably doesn't make the headlines as much and that's the building of relationships in communities. they have these district plans where they go through town, try to build bridges with local leaders and work against the taliban a in that way. in terms of soldiers, many are trying to figure out what four years means in terms of another single deployment before this ends.
i'll make that determination when i get there. >> nbc's lester holt is there live in afghanistan. with a good day to you, what steps are we taking to make that 2014 goal a reality? >> well, there is a transition process that's been under way for quite some time where the president's proclamation, it has been filtering around here at bagram airfield and around afghanistan. soldiers and commanders all trying to make some sense of what this means for them on the military standpoint....
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. >> far less controversial, the decision to invade afghanistan. at the time, a haven for terrorists. the base of operations for osama bin laden. >> when you were starting the war plans for afghanistan, i mean, clearly you had enormous public support. your approval rating after 9/11 went up to something like 90%. >> so. >> well, i'm just saying. you had enormous support. what were your fears about afghanistan when you were developing the war plan? >> first of all, the decision to enforce new doctrine, if you harbor a terrorist, you're equally as guilty as the terrorist was not that hard to make. it was hard after you removed the taliban. our nation was ill equipped for nation building. >> could you imagine in 2001 we would still be in afghanistan and still struggling? >> i was hopeful that that would not be the case. but i was also mindful, matt, and history tells us. democracies take a while to develop, including our own. >> how big a letdown was it for you, president bush, that we failed to get osama bin laden in afghanistan? according to a lot o
. >> far less controversial, the decision to invade afghanistan. at the time, a haven for terrorists. the base of operations for osama bin laden. >> when you were starting the war plans for afghanistan, i mean, clearly you had enormous public support. your approval rating after 9/11 went up to something like 90%. >> so. >> well, i'm just saying. you had enormous support. what were your fears about afghanistan when you were developing the war plan? >> first of all,...
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fashion in afghanistan to provide stability. so at the end of the day there was no discussion about a difference between pet they yas and karzai in terms of strategy. i think in 2011 we can bring some troops home. we'll need substantial number of troops in afghanistan past that. 2014 is the right date to talk about. that's when karzai suggests that afghans will be in the lead. i'm very pleased to hear president obama talk about 2014. >> all right. 45 past the hour. adding to that debate about our presence in afghanistan, hamid karzai in a stunning interview with "the washington post" over the weekend, mark halperin is with us as well as lich charred haass, the president of the council on foreign relations. let me read some of the reflections to this interview. in the saturday interview karzai said the often troubled u.s.-afghan dynamic approved since petraeus's arrival in the summer. he also outlined a vision for the u.s. military presence that sharply conflicts with the obama administration's strategy. in addition to ending nig
fashion in afghanistan to provide stability. so at the end of the day there was no discussion about a difference between pet they yas and karzai in terms of strategy. i think in 2011 we can bring some troops home. we'll need substantial number of troops in afghanistan past that. 2014 is the right date to talk about. that's when karzai suggests that afghans will be in the lead. i'm very pleased to hear president obama talk about 2014. >> all right. 45 past the hour. adding to that debate...
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but we are using russia to help supply our troops in afghanistan. they were very, very helpful with what we think are very significant sanctions against the iranians, and we have a big agenda with the russians. new start is the first piece of it. if we can't get that ratified it's difficult to move forward. >> in terms of the argument this is going to weaken us on missile defense -- >> i was the chairman of forces on the house services committee. we did missile defense. we're spending $10 billion this year. the president's investments in modernization is second to no president. the biggest investment is $80 billion over ten years and our missile defense is $10 billion. it's everything that everybody believes we should be spending. these are red herrings. the substance is there. we're hoping to get the cooperation we need to get a vote. >> ellen tauscher, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> and coming up next, what political story will make headlines in the next 24 hours? ♪ when you're responsible for this much of the team, you need a car you can
but we are using russia to help supply our troops in afghanistan. they were very, very helpful with what we think are very significant sanctions against the iranians, and we have a big agenda with the russians. new start is the first piece of it. if we can't get that ratified it's difficult to move forward. >> in terms of the argument this is going to weaken us on missile defense -- >> i was the chairman of forces on the house services committee. we did missile defense. we're...
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access northern afghanistan supply routes to get vital material to u.s. troops. five months after signing the treaty, mr. medvedev outlawed the sale of ships to iran which canceled the deal five years in the making to sell iran $800 million of s-300 missiles. if russia allows the sale would help iran defend their nuclear facilities. the anti-defamation league and ju incouncil are calling for americans to let the treaty go forward. we are deeply concerned that the failure to ratify the new start treaty will have national security far beyond the treaty itself. joined by former secretary of defense under president reagan, lawrence corub. >> nice to be with you again. >> thanks for your time. senator kyle suggested the treaty doesn't do enough to modernize the u.s. arsenal. mr. gates says it does too as do seven out of eight former commanders of the u.s. nuclear forces, as does the senator from indiana, the republican, dick lugar. can you explain to senator kyle why his concern might be misguided here? >> well, not only is it challenged by the real experts but presid
access northern afghanistan supply routes to get vital material to u.s. troops. five months after signing the treaty, mr. medvedev outlawed the sale of ships to iran which canceled the deal five years in the making to sell iran $800 million of s-300 missiles. if russia allows the sale would help iran defend their nuclear facilities. the anti-defamation league and ju incouncil are calling for americans to let the treaty go forward. we are deeply concerned that the failure to ratify the new start...
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he wanted the indian parliament to understand we will be in afghanistan for a very long time. i suspect there's some people on the left in america that aren't happy about that this morning. >> savannah guthrie, thank you very much. you can catch her on "the daily rundown" at 9:00 eastern time after "morning joe." harry ford junior and dan seymour, thank you very much. >>> up next, sarah palin takes tough criticism from a key member of the republican party next on "morning joe." ♪ [ man ] i thought our family business would always be boots. until one day, my daughter showed me a designer handbag. and like that, we had a new side to our business. [ male announcer ] when businesses see an opportunity, the hartford is there. protecting their employees and property and helping them prepare for the future. nice boots. nice bag. [ male announcer ] see how the hartford helps businesses at achievewhatsahead.com. the smartest thing you could do is cut the fuel supply, unlock the doors, and turn on the hazards. or get a car that does it for you. ♪ had a tree that bore the most rare a
he wanted the indian parliament to understand we will be in afghanistan for a very long time. i suspect there's some people on the left in america that aren't happy about that this morning. >> savannah guthrie, thank you very much. you can catch her on "the daily rundown" at 9:00 eastern time after "morning joe." harry ford junior and dan seymour, thank you very much. >>> up next, sarah palin takes tough criticism from a key member of the republican party next...
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this time the president is trying to find agreement on an exit strategy from afghanistan. even as ratification of the s.t.a.r.t. nuclear arms treaty with russia runs into road blocks at home. chuck todd is nbc news chief white house correspondent, he is traveling with the president covering it all and joins us from lisbon. chuck, first on nato and afghanistan, where does the president want to come out, if he is successful at this nato meeting? >> well, it's exactly the way vice president biden outlined it this morning, that everybody has sign-off on this transition. that's the new buzz word here, if you want to call it that, as far as the president is concerned. he doesn't use the word withdrawal. he calls it a transition, which of course is -- he's not using the phrasology, but it is fairly familiar, which is as the afghanis stand up, nato and u.s. forces stand down. a very similar way the bush administration used to put it when it came to iraq and when -- in the timing of troops would come out then. that's going to be the tough sell for the president, this idea of 2014 b
this time the president is trying to find agreement on an exit strategy from afghanistan. even as ratification of the s.t.a.r.t. nuclear arms treaty with russia runs into road blocks at home. chuck todd is nbc news chief white house correspondent, he is traveling with the president covering it all and joins us from lisbon. chuck, first on nato and afghanistan, where does the president want to come out, if he is successful at this nato meeting? >> well, it's exactly the way vice president...
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at $8 billion a month, let's get out of iraq and afghanistan. i want to hear those words out of your mouth, because that's what we're talking about here. >> loretta, i'm committed to balancing this budget, getting us back on track towards a balanced budget. cutting taxes and cutting spending is the best way to grow this economy and allow individual americans to keep and save -- and spend more of their own money. we need to cut spending first, stop any tax increase from taking effect january 1st. >> a majority -- -- >> -- voted for -- >> a majority. >> if i may ask this, let me ask about senator schumer's proposal today. senate schumer put on the table this prospect of drawing the line at $1 million. extending income for below the $1 million mark. is that something you could live with? >> again, michael, no constitutional conservative, no fiscal conservative is going to accept the premise that we're going to allow anyone's taxes to go up on january 1 wst, in a recession. we're in a very deep and dangerous recession. the country just decisively re
at $8 billion a month, let's get out of iraq and afghanistan. i want to hear those words out of your mouth, because that's what we're talking about here. >> loretta, i'm committed to balancing this budget, getting us back on track towards a balanced budget. cutting taxes and cutting spending is the best way to grow this economy and allow individual americans to keep and save -- and spend more of their own money. we need to cut spending first, stop any tax increase from taking effect...
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salvatore giunta ran enemy fire in afghanistan to rescue his fellow soldiers. at the white house awards ceremony, president obama heaped praise. >> it is my privilege to present our nation's highest military declaration, the medal of honor, to a soldier as humble as he is heroic, staff sergeant salvatore a. giunta. now i'm going to go off script here for a second and just say i really like this guy. >> mr. giunta, front-page news in a lot of papers. here he is getting the medal. he says he doesn't deserve it, but you most of the heroes don't. if you haven't read his story, read into it. it's an incredible one. >>> let's turn for an early look to the markets as we get all up in your business this morning. cnbc's jeff cutwhere live in london. good morning, jeff. >> reporter: good morning to you. two big stories to keep an eye on. one is the market itself. we have that biggest single day drop in three months yesterday. the dow has now taken back all the gains we've seen over the last month. so that's something to focus on. one of the other stories that will feed i
salvatore giunta ran enemy fire in afghanistan to rescue his fellow soldiers. at the white house awards ceremony, president obama heaped praise. >> it is my privilege to present our nation's highest military declaration, the medal of honor, to a soldier as humble as he is heroic, staff sergeant salvatore a. giunta. now i'm going to go off script here for a second and just say i really like this guy. >> mr. giunta, front-page news in a lot of papers. here he is getting the medal. he...