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trump. and i should note, obviously his legal team had a role in picking this jury. they actually felt like they did. they had a more favorable jury pool than they expected. >> not something that's likely to be considered today, but trump has also said it would be his quote, great honor to be jail for violating this gag order. so a very difficult position for the judge to be in. >> we got a shot from inside again, the courthouse right there, whether or not we see people move we shortly we will we will tell you when it happens, caitlin, after this hearing. >> of course, david gets back like up on the stand and i have to say i was glued to the tv all day yesterday to both of you out here discussing his testimony, watching it unfold, at least with the banners on the side of the screen reading out loud what was taking place. he says he engaged in checkbook journalism that sets the table for what today do you think? yeah. well, and just a reminder for everyone. obviously, we don't cameras it's in
trump. and i should note, obviously his legal team had a role in picking this jury. they actually felt like they did. they had a more favorable jury pool than they expected. >> not something that's likely to be considered today, but trump has also said it would be his quote, great honor to be jail for violating this gag order. so a very difficult position for the judge to be in. >> we got a shot from inside again, the courthouse right there, whether or not we see people move we...
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trump does. yeah. i mean, one of the things that i've heard from some democrats is they say, jamie raskin is the one i'm thinking of. y is at stefanik the one leading the charge about this because she as you note is doesn't exactly lead the charge against the anti-semites on the right, here's what congressman raskin last december said. when it came to at least a phonic as the leader peter of this the issue with at least a phonic is that while she's posing as a great champion of the jews and opponent of antisemitism on campus and for college presidents, she won't say anything about presidential anti-semitism when it comes to the white house, the real president of the united states and that of course is a much greater threat to jews in america when you have donald trump, who says things like they're very fine people on both sides of it. >> in anti-semitic race riot called by neo-nazis in charlottesville, virginia every spent jamie raskin a great deal it makes me uncomfortable to watch people play politic
trump does. yeah. i mean, one of the things that i've heard from some democrats is they say, jamie raskin is the one i'm thinking of. y is at stefanik the one leading the charge about this because she as you note is doesn't exactly lead the charge against the anti-semites on the right, here's what congressman raskin last december said. when it came to at least a phonic as the leader peter of this the issue with at least a phonic is that while she's posing as a great champion of the jews and...
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deal with donald trump. you might text somebody close to him, but not him. >> he's never texted me. never we already, doesn't text or email no. >> no, never. >> it was always like anything we had the email we would email to his assistant. the objection has been noted in overrule, judge merchan says merchan says noting that any embedded hearsay issues will be dealt with as they move through the documents. okay. so they probably went through and found a few text messages were wondering of them, said, you know, somebody else told me x and so you know, tallies point, because these are texts between two alleged coconspirators, they would be admissible for that purpose, but to the extent that there are certain pieces within that that go outside that as they come up, he's going to potentially excise pieces of it. >> and yeah, i mean, what we're going to see here in these text messages between michael cohen and david dana presumably will bolster what michael cohen's going to say on the stand and what has said on the
deal with donald trump. you might text somebody close to him, but not him. >> he's never texted me. never we already, doesn't text or email no. >> no, never. >> it was always like anything we had the email we would email to his assistant. the objection has been noted in overrule, judge merchan says merchan says noting that any embedded hearsay issues will be dealt with as they move through the documents. okay. so they probably went through and found a few text messages were...
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had with trump where trump's says, how's our girl doing, right? referencing karen mcdougal referring to someone in a way that you would refer to them if you knew them, if you had had an affair with them, if they were your girl, right and in the converse, there was another conversation. >> just a handful of congress stations that david pecker testified that he had directly with donald trump in another one of those conversations, when they had just learned that karen mcdougal was going to go public liquid this according to pecker, trump said to him, and house karen. so a familiarity, not who is this stranger that has made some allegation, but com calling her by her first name, which then when you add the two together, suggests that there was some familiarity with who she was and where where the story was coming from. >> and that's the psychology that now what is in front of the jury, but that's the psychology that the prosecution is trying to get i'm sure now, in front of the jury, and i believe that discussion with holler girl was the same meeting
had with trump where trump's says, how's our girl doing, right? referencing karen mcdougal referring to someone in a way that you would refer to them if you knew them, if you had had an affair with them, if they were your girl, right and in the converse, there was another conversation. >> just a handful of congress stations that david pecker testified that he had directly with donald trump in another one of those conversations, when they had just learned that karen mcdougal was going to...
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he said he went to trump tower. he saw donald trump and that donald trump had the thing tim for taking care of the doorman's story and karen mcdougal story, so then trump's lawyers saying, confronting with him some notes that an fbi agent had taken after an interview, david pecker gave to them. and in those fbi notes, the notes say the david pecker didn't recall any gratitude from donald trump's, so he was challenging on that, asking him about that, david pecker says, i know so what i remember, this is going back to 2018. i didn't recall back from what i'm saying here is that during the fbi investigation, i know what i said that yesterday happens, so i can't reconcile what the fbi interview was. if someone made a mistake or not beauvais says so you can't reconcile because what you said yesterday is inconsistent with what's in this report, correct pecker says yes, but i wouldn't be responsible for this report, but they said i understand. and so you're suggesting that the fbi made a mistake here? pecker said, i know w
he said he went to trump tower. he saw donald trump and that donald trump had the thing tim for taking care of the doorman's story and karen mcdougal story, so then trump's lawyers saying, confronting with him some notes that an fbi agent had taken after an interview, david pecker gave to them. and in those fbi notes, the notes say the david pecker didn't recall any gratitude from donald trump's, so he was challenging on that, asking him about that, david pecker says, i know so what i remember,...
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admiration for donald trump. listen to this. this is a quote. this is her it was a very stimulating, exciting, fascinating place to be. then she said, sometimes trump would peak has said in and say, go home to your family, which i thought was very thoughtful of him. i thought that was a nice extra touch that he would take time to do that trump's lawyer, susan nicholas asked her, quote you don't want to be here, do you? and she coronagraph said correct. what's your analysis them? >> the point there is that she's under subpoena. she's not voluntarily coming in to try to help out the prosecution i think that that's something that's consistent across these witnesses. is that the only one who really is dying to get in there is probably stormy daniels and michael so call it the others who are being brought in just to tell their stories was running graph is a prosecution witness and prosecution called her. but did she do a lot to humanize trump before the jury? >> i mean, i think that she probably did i mean, it sounds
admiration for donald trump. listen to this. this is a quote. this is her it was a very stimulating, exciting, fascinating place to be. then she said, sometimes trump would peak has said in and say, go home to your family, which i thought was very thoughtful of him. i thought that was a nice extra touch that he would take time to do that trump's lawyer, susan nicholas asked her, quote you don't want to be here, do you? and she coronagraph said correct. what's your analysis them? >> the...
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it comes as trump. trump's team is also attacking a key member of bragg's team, the da, with past ties to the biden administration, and jason carroll is out front with this special report before former president donald trump's criminal trial got underway, before jury was seated and before the judge's gag order prevented him from making statements it's about attorneys, court officials, their relatives, and potential witnesses. >> trump had already set his sights on this man, matthew colangelo senior counsel to the manhattan district attorney, and part of the prosecution team trying trump's criminal case. >> this is all from the doj welcome to washington they're coordinated with the district attorney and the water trump's pre gag order tirades against colangelo's center on baseless claims. trump's criminal trial is secretly controlled by president joe biden, the white house, and the justice department. >> his top person well and some. others have been placed into the da's office to make sure they do a goo
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trump account. so the whole press conference was a bit of a i think a pr disaster because it's going to hurt him in court eventually. and so the jury and he came out, he does that eight minutes, jeremy talking, of course, in the courtroom what else did to you? i stopped you. i know you mentioned that he was passing notes to his attorneys at time that he was engaged you know, what we're what moore's interactions like with his team and with the jury yeah. >> it's interesting because when his attorney, todd blanche went to speak, trump's demeanor, it's shifted. he turned his chair, he faced he faced him, which made him faced the jury, and he watched plants as he went through his opening statement. i think the most interesting thing with trump today that was when david took the stand because trump, he was sitting very motionless expressionless, really watching david closely. and there was a light moment in his testimony where he was asked to recount the last four digits if a cell phone number it's for r
trump account. so the whole press conference was a bit of a i think a pr disaster because it's going to hurt him in court eventually. and so the jury and he came out, he does that eight minutes, jeremy talking, of course, in the courtroom what else did to you? i stopped you. i know you mentioned that he was passing notes to his attorneys at time that he was engaged you know, what we're what moore's interactions like with his team and with the jury yeah. >> it's interesting because when...
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trump. it's about a united states citizen. >> you think it's a weak case. >> it's the case is the facts of the case. the fact that learned counsel don't know exactly what the other charge is is insanely agree that when that i didn't i it came out. i think i was sitting right here. i said, okay, the other crime they have to prove falsifying business records to commit and other crime is unclear and a mess and it remains that way until now because even now, the prosecutor said while there was federal election crimes, it was state electric episodes, tax crimes. i don't know where they're getting that from. they overpaid michael cohen so he could pay his taxes. but i think the primary theory here is that the other crime is a federal campaign finance violations and the theory is they falsified these records. it was a $130,000 payment. it campaign donation it campaign expenditure way over the limits. they falsified the records rather than calling them pay hush money payments, whatever white be an a
trump. it's about a united states citizen. >> you think it's a weak case. >> it's the case is the facts of the case. the fact that learned counsel don't know exactly what the other charge is is insanely agree that when that i didn't i it came out. i think i was sitting right here. i said, okay, the other crime they have to prove falsifying business records to commit and other crime is unclear and a mess and it remains that way until now because even now, the prosecutor said while...
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trump. and so the prosecution is going to have to figure out a way to suggest that this is somehow different, that they is delete with their trump's, so to speak. and this is not a personal matter between a man trying to hide it from his wife. it was an intentional at trying to defraud people by having falsified business records that form these invoices and what not and prove it. there was actual criminal activity here. they cannot rely on a little bit of innuendo or suggestion, or maybe even a dislike for him and the political space they have to prove their case& they've got do it pretty quickly to head off or will be the opening from the fans which will surely try to show this as a political win. >> elie honig, what, what about the defense was expecting to hear from them? >> so first of all, they're going to argue they have to prove their case. the prosecution bears the burden of proof, not just probably not just more likely, but beyond a reasonable doubt. and the defense is going to argue
trump. and so the prosecution is going to have to figure out a way to suggest that this is somehow different, that they is delete with their trump's, so to speak. and this is not a personal matter between a man trying to hide it from his wife. it was an intentional at trying to defraud people by having falsified business records that form these invoices and what not and prove it. there was actual criminal activity here. they cannot rely on a little bit of innuendo or suggestion, or maybe even a...
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, trump's team suggested the payments trump made to cohen. we're not a payback for funds paid to stormy daniels, but instead payments do as personal attorney trump defended himself against these charges after court on monday and invoice. >> so whatever, a bill. >> and they didn't call it a legal expense. >> i got indicted for that land shifted blame to cohen saying the reality is mr. trump is not on the hook, is not criminally responsible for something mr. cohen may have done years after the fact. blanche said the prosecution's outline of a supposed catching killed deal with was not a scheme, but completely irrelevant and not illegal in the afternoon as briefly took the stand, he did not look at trump, but trump look directly at him as he testified david was on the stand for about 20 minutes to de he was explaining to the jury how the national enquirer operate, saying that they did pay for certain stories he testified on the celebrity sayyed of the magazine industry, at least on the tabloid side, we use checkbook journalism and we paid for st
, trump's team suggested the payments trump made to cohen. we're not a payback for funds paid to stormy daniels, but instead payments do as personal attorney trump defended himself against these charges after court on monday and invoice. >> so whatever, a bill. >> and they didn't call it a legal expense. >> i got indicted for that land shifted blame to cohen saying the reality is mr. trump is not on the hook, is not criminally responsible for something mr. cohen may have done...
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trump. pecker testified, quote, i said, i don't want the national enquirer to be associated with porn star. >> he added that walmart was the main distributor of the magazine and it would be very bad for ami, the publishing company that produces the national enquirer, pecker also said, if anyone was going to buy it in terms of buying the story, i thought michael cohen and donald trump should buy it. the significance of that. do you think the idea that pecker is saying that he was reluctant to get involved in the stormy daniels case when we know at the end of the day, he didn't actually get involved. it was michael cohen who got involved. >> right. so i mean, look, i guess the the argument to be made is that that this was unusual, right? it wasn't standard fare for him to be necessarily wasn't his. consistent with his business objectives to be engaged, to kill stories, to kill stories, get it for trump, right? and then fact killing this particular story, i love acquiring the story, wouldn't ha
trump. pecker testified, quote, i said, i don't want the national enquirer to be associated with porn star. >> he added that walmart was the main distributor of the magazine and it would be very bad for ami, the publishing company that produces the national enquirer, pecker also said, if anyone was going to buy it in terms of buying the story, i thought michael cohen and donald trump should buy it. the significance of that. do you think the idea that pecker is saying that he was reluctant...
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trump is, trump is the issue, not, not what could happen and to the extent trump's committed these crimes are alleged to have committed these crimes that that is not going to that's not going to be way laid by what they do so you were when predicting the supreme court or your track record is pretty good, 9-0 was was your bet for the colorado ballot case how do you see this going and essentially, when are we going to find out so they will absolutely not find absolute immunity for trump. >> and in fact, they'll, they'll find that while immunity may be constrained in connection with article two duties and some collateral, discretionary acts that there's a fact-finding process required to determine the distinction between official acts and whatever the allegations are that would support an indictment. i think they will lay out that line and then remanded to the district court for findings consistent with their guidance. i think you what you saw today was a lot of frustration with the dc circuit opinion, which sort of said, yeah, this is all reprehensible, no immunity, but it did didn't draw a
trump is, trump is the issue, not, not what could happen and to the extent trump's committed these crimes are alleged to have committed these crimes that that is not going to that's not going to be way laid by what they do so you were when predicting the supreme court or your track record is pretty good, 9-0 was was your bet for the colorado ballot case how do you see this going and essentially, when are we going to find out so they will absolutely not find absolute immunity for trump. >>...
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for donald trump's opponents. so that's a big contribution, and that's the way the prosecution is framing. this was a big up for donald trump's campaign, and it constituted election fraud so in your opinion, windom trump comes out and says, we'll look i was paying a lawyer and we said legal fees. >> what's wrong with that? what's the answer to that so in this case, it's not just legal fees which professor would do, sorry, go into moser i think in this case, it's not simply that he's paying michael cohen, is that michael cohen is being is reimbursing. >> they're paying these payments to stormy daniels. there's the work that david pecker is doing and bringing in, coordinating all of this together. and that's sort of the misdemeanor part. there's also the tax fraud issue that is also been pointed to, hasn't been brought up. and david pecker is testimony. i think it will come out later on thursday, but the idea that donald trump had to gross up michael cohen in order to make him whole for the payments as he is actuall
for donald trump's opponents. so that's a big contribution, and that's the way the prosecution is framing. this was a big up for donald trump's campaign, and it constituted election fraud so in your opinion, windom trump comes out and says, we'll look i was paying a lawyer and we said legal fees. >> what's wrong with that? what's the answer to that so in this case, it's not just legal fees which professor would do, sorry, go into moser i think in this case, it's not simply that he's...
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and eric trump. >> all right. but what you'll see your opinion does cycle great to have both you here and i thank you so much. >> thanks for grade school students in tennessee are demanding the governor's stop a new law in its tracks before teachers are allowed to carry concealed handguns in schools, would you prefer cash over a voucher when an airline ruins your travels de, the new rules that the federal government is now pushing we're at, that this of the titanic, how would really happen, especially to our premier sunday at nine on cnn? nothing dems my light like a migraine with nortech ott. i found relief the only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent all-in-one to those with migrants and i see you for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults don't take if allergic to nurture echo dt allergic reaction these can occur even days after using most common side effects are nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. it's time. we all talk t
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, the judge, and trump's lawyer. very tense back and forth that you drew here. i mentioned it at the top of the program. we were talking about this gag order. what did you actually see here? >> what happens is in those situations is you're drawing people who are constantly moving and then you're seeing that this tension is building up more shawn's a pretty cool character. he doesn't get easily roiled up. but as blanche is continuing on this path of this argument, and merchants feeling like he's not being heard you see now we're sean's arm's going up, so i have to now add the arm to the body in the blanche's arm is moving in his hand. but these are all important gestures because they show actually what happened this weezer actual what they were doing. and you've got a grab it because because it shows that tension, i mean, they were they were going at it. i mean, we're sean was not given up and neither was blanche so saying just so the personal and the psychology of it all, i think it brings it home to all of us. >> we
, the judge, and trump's lawyer. very tense back and forth that you drew here. i mentioned it at the top of the program. we were talking about this gag order. what did you actually see here? >> what happens is in those situations is you're drawing people who are constantly moving and then you're seeing that this tension is building up more shawn's a pretty cool character. he doesn't get easily roiled up. but as blanche is continuing on this path of this argument, and merchants feeling...
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on in trump's life, right? >> so right now, we're see a courts scared officers hitting roadgraph with thumbs. >> i'm not number one. it could be. did some we documents that they're asking her to review or confirm i still get the get back to if there are electronics schedules and she can attest that she was aware of them and frankly made them they can likely be brought in as evidence and she can say on this date, this meeting can happen. and frankly, for a witness like this, you could even use her for a very limited purpose, only have her up there for a couple hours just to get an a few documents as elie was saying a little bit earlier, a few documents, schedules, and so on. >> and then turn to monday where you call are tuesday where you call it. >> you just said that as far as she could remember, trump never used email to communicate. i can i can confirm that trump several times before he became president united states, and whatever i would go to trump tower to interview him, i could see that he was into paper
on in trump's life, right? >> so right now, we're see a courts scared officers hitting roadgraph with thumbs. >> i'm not number one. it could be. did some we documents that they're asking her to review or confirm i still get the get back to if there are electronics schedules and she can attest that she was aware of them and frankly made them they can likely be brought in as evidence and she can say on this date, this meeting can happen. and frankly, for a witness like this, you...
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, trump's team suggested the payments trump made to cohen. we're not a payback for funds paid to stormy daniels, but instead payments to his personal attorney trump defended himself against these charges after court on monday which in an invoice or whatever, a bill. and they panic the legal expense. i got indicted for that plant, shifted blame to cohen saying the reality is mr. trump is not on the hook, is not criminally responsible for something mr. cohen may have done years after the fact. blanche said the prosecution's outline of a supposed catch and kill deal with was not a scheme, but completely irrelevant and not illegal in the afternoon as briefly took the stand, he did not look at trump, but trump look directly at him as he testified carol, what was david what did he talk about on the stand because it was limited his time today yeah. david was on the stand for about 20 minutes and he started to describe to the jury how the national enquirer operates, telling them that they engage in checkbook journalism, meaning that they would pay fo
, trump's team suggested the payments trump made to cohen. we're not a payback for funds paid to stormy daniels, but instead payments to his personal attorney trump defended himself against these charges after court on monday which in an invoice or whatever, a bill. and they panic the legal expense. i got indicted for that plant, shifted blame to cohen saying the reality is mr. trump is not on the hook, is not criminally responsible for something mr. cohen may have done years after the fact....
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trump? >> right? absolutely. and look, these are all individuals from the trump world, from the trump universe, the three we've identified so far are obviously very close to trump, or we're very close to trump at a certain time, especially when you are trying to overturn the 2020 election. and we'll learn more about these other redacted name probably about in the next few minutes here, but we are told that they're all from that inner circle, from those people that were working in trump's orbit to help them overturn the 2020 election and look this investigation here in arizona, it's obviously coming years after those efforts were first bows. but it will be always thought that it was really focused on the fake electors themselves, myself and marshall cohen reported though in the last few months that the probe did seem to be expanding and did seem to be looking into people who we're connected to the trump campaign on a national level. and now we know that some of these names and this indictment are in that really th
trump? >> right? absolutely. and look, these are all individuals from the trump world, from the trump universe, the three we've identified so far are obviously very close to trump, or we're very close to trump at a certain time, especially when you are trying to overturn the 2020 election. and we'll learn more about these other redacted name probably about in the next few minutes here, but we are told that they're all from that inner circle, from those people that were working in trump's...
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and juliana and trump. so eastman is unindicted coconspirator number four as that seems to be, there are there are five unindicted coconspirators you're saying for you think is clearly eastern. >> i think four is clearly usemin. and but those are people who didn't conduct the electric scheme on the ground or organize it in a way actively in arizona, they were people who were above the above that phrase, giuliani, was there actually taking action? same thing with meadows in terms of coordination. so i think that's this is the distinction. all right. so joey, i'm just going through this nine felony counts, as i said, and this is just to give the summary conspiracy fraudulent schemes, fraudulent schemes, forgery, forgery, forgery, forgery, forgery forgery problematic. >> let me be prosecuted before i'm defense right now, the issue from the prosecution's of perspective and people at home is saying, look, whether you acted on the ground or not, if you were a mastermind of an enterprise, it doesn't matter where y
and juliana and trump. so eastman is unindicted coconspirator number four as that seems to be, there are there are five unindicted coconspirators you're saying for you think is clearly eastern. >> i think four is clearly usemin. and but those are people who didn't conduct the electric scheme on the ground or organize it in a way actively in arizona, they were people who were above the above that phrase, giuliani, was there actually taking action? same thing with meadows in terms of...
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donald trump's world. and especially if he think, look anytime you represent people in the media, like trump is like a lot of other high-profile people are in my opinion, they overemphasize the public relations aspect of the trial. they assumed the jurors are reading it. they assume the jurors are violating the judge's orders and looking at and they're trying so hard to influence them i haven't found that to be the case. i've found after a verdict, juror say, yeah, i was in a cab and the thing popped up. i was on my phone, but i've never found a juror after questioning them after a verdict, that layout blatantly violet, now they could be lying to me, but i will tell you there are certain defendants who like they really emphasize on getting the message out after the jury's and paneled when the jury's not supposed to email, see the goal might not be two, to influence the jury so much is really just to provoke a miss trial, right oh, that's a win for the defense in any case, particularly, what would it take t
donald trump's world. and especially if he think, look anytime you represent people in the media, like trump is like a lot of other high-profile people are in my opinion, they overemphasize the public relations aspect of the trial. they assumed the jurors are reading it. they assume the jurors are violating the judge's orders and looking at and they're trying so hard to influence them i haven't found that to be the case. i've found after a verdict, juror say, yeah, i was in a cab and the thing...
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not the trump organization, but donald trump. and blanche opened on that. and i think that's going to be a very important issue when it comes down to the end of the case, were not there yet. >> beauvais asked pecker whether he was conveying there were no legal ramifications when he told michael cohen the mcdougal agreement it was bulletproof. that's correct. david pecker says, yes. >> so here it's interesting. pecker actually had to double-check to make sure this wasn't a campaign finance violations to purchase and then suppress karen mcdougal's story we now know ami and pecker have non-prosecution agreements with the justice department. and of course, pecker has immunity here, but he believed at the time. now he said pecker says he didn't withhold any information from the attorneys when they reviewed the mcdougal document and to your point, i mean, none of these particular allegations, none of these agreements are what is being charged here. we haven't even gotten to stormy daniels and michael cohen's payment to her, david pecke
not the trump organization, but donald trump. and blanche opened on that. and i think that's going to be a very important issue when it comes down to the end of the case, were not there yet. >> beauvais asked pecker whether he was conveying there were no legal ramifications when he told michael cohen the mcdougal agreement it was bulletproof. that's correct. david pecker says, yes. >> so here it's interesting. pecker actually had to double-check to make sure this wasn't a campaign...
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and trump's said i was doing. i think that's how the case will eventually fall out. but if the jury finds that it was done and they believed that it was for personal reasons. remember? todd, blanche and opening statement try to quote unquote, humanize the client, everybody kind of dismissed that as it's kinda quaint that they're trying to establish that donald trump is both a father and a husband. that wasn't done for just some idle purpose that is done for the purpose of summation later on after evidence is all in to say, hey, listen if the jury finds that there's reasonable doubt and believes that donald trump's motivations was not. we're not principally to advance his interest in a campaign, but to conceal an affair from his wife and his child and the jury bicep or at least one juror buys that are at least one juror finds that there's reasonable doubt as to whether or not it's for an illegal purpose. as opposed to a personal purpose. that's why todd blanche did what he did an opening. that's a setup for what's
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but yeah, that'll trump. he has to be in court just like pretty much any american citizen charged with a crime, you have to attend your trial. that means you won't be on the campaign trail as much as he would like to be four days a week, he will have to be in lower manhattan in court. >> certainly not a place he is used to being and not having any control over proceedings, really, marshall cohen, we know you'd be watching closely. thank you very much. appreciate it. >> let's discuss some joined now by scott jennings and shan wu. >> ocean is a defense attorney and a former federal prosecutor. he served in the clinton administration as a council to attorney general janet reno and scott jennings is a cnn senior political computer. and a former special assistant to president george w. bo. thank you both. for joining me. shan, i want to start with you as a former federal prosecutor, how would you approach these opening statements as marshall with just saying this is a chance for them to start telling a story for b
but yeah, that'll trump. he has to be in court just like pretty much any american citizen charged with a crime, you have to attend your trial. that means you won't be on the campaign trail as much as he would like to be four days a week, he will have to be in lower manhattan in court. >> certainly not a place he is used to being and not having any control over proceedings, really, marshall cohen, we know you'd be watching closely. thank you very much. appreciate it. >> let's discuss...
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and that in fact, they had been doing it for donald trump trump even 17 years before the 2016 election. this is after the prosecution spent more than six hours over the last couple of days questioning pecker about the inner workings of those catch and kill stories. and how many of them benefitted trump cross-examination of david pecker, got underway in the criminal case against donald trump 17 years of providing president trump with a heads-up about potentially negative publicity? yes. the former publisher of the national enquirer testified trump's lawyers trying to show that catch and kill schemes buying negative stories to make them disappear was not uncommon. we didn't want the story to embarrass mr. trump or embarrass or hurt the campaign one such scheme at the crux of the da's case against trump, stormy daniels months before the 2016 election, the adult film star and director tried to sell her story of a sexual relationship trump to the enquirer for $120,000, but pecker testified he wouldn't buy it. pecker said he later learned trump's then attorney and fixer, michael cohen paid d
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then that a nurse to trump's benefit. i'm not saying that's an argument that's going to win, but it's an argument if i were representing trump, i would pound that to the ground. let's take a step back for a second, kim, on this and i wanted to do bigger picture, although i do love a good legal nerd discussion, this is wonderful, but thinking about this each witness has a different piece to play. >> i think about an overall jigsaw puzzle, right? this one witness is not going to give you everything they want to have the catch and kill scheme pattern established. they want to suggest that donald trump was aware of a catch and kill scheme for the purpose of trying to have no transparency for the election in moving that particular needle. >> what did you see today? >> well, i think they've established probably the narrative that he had an intent to influence the election. not necessarily to protect millennia or his reputation and also that the catch and kill scheme was created in order to cover up the payouts to these women. t
then that a nurse to trump's benefit. i'm not saying that's an argument that's going to win, but it's an argument if i were representing trump, i would pound that to the ground. let's take a step back for a second, kim, on this and i wanted to do bigger picture, although i do love a good legal nerd discussion, this is wonderful, but thinking about this each witness has a different piece to play. >> i think about an overall jigsaw puzzle, right? this one witness is not going to give you...
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>> i am donald trump is not trying to change who donald trump is. we all know who donald trump is. so that's already baked into this conversation. so if he was introducing himself to the american public, yes, i could agree with you. he's not he's known he's wrong quantity. >> can i ask what those abstract yeah you that question? >> i just the backdrop that's fine. >> but a backdrop for his campaign that is all about reinforcing the worst pieces of his personality that's where i don't that's where i don't want i might question that as a political winter question to the whole trial is about stories that he wanted to cover up from was it was going to write every day or every campaign has stories that whether it's you really would do damage or not do damage, have stories that they tried to cover up as reported? porter's, you all have been received calls from campaign officials who say, you know what, i think you've got the facts wrong here. yeah. well, i can really john john edwards exactly it worked out great for the man pain. >> let's look at his hair before and after but i guess all
>> i am donald trump is not trying to change who donald trump is. we all know who donald trump is. so that's already baked into this conversation. so if he was introducing himself to the american public, yes, i could agree with you. he's not he's known he's wrong quantity. >> can i ask what those abstract yeah you that question? >> i just the backdrop that's fine. >> but a backdrop for his campaign that is all about reinforcing the worst pieces of his personality that's...
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donald trump trump is like just get it done. he's not in the weeds. in fact, at one point, michael cohen says none i got it. alan and i are going to handle you don't worry about it. we're going to pay him. you don't worry about the how and the how is the crime. so when that tape comes up, that's gonna be a problem for the prosecutor. >> i also think that part of the thing about trump paying attention to details is more to what caitlin was saying, which is the amount of money even for a very rich person like donald trump, he didn't really want to part ways with $150,000 for karen mcdougal, 134 stormy. he did not want to part ways with that money to get his attorneys tried to get out of it once the election was over. so it's really about the dollar here that was concerning to himhe we can come back and decisions still looming for trump and whether he violated the judge's gag order multiple times. the hearing earlier did not go well for the trump attorney with the judge warning trump's lawyer at one point that he was losing all cre
donald trump trump is like just get it done. he's not in the weeds. in fact, at one point, michael cohen says none i got it. alan and i are going to handle you don't worry about it. we're going to pay him. you don't worry about the how and the how is the crime. so when that tape comes up, that's gonna be a problem for the prosecutor. >> i also think that part of the thing about trump paying attention to details is more to what caitlin was saying, which is the amount of money even for a...
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he's also the co-author of the trump trials newsletter and former attorney for donald trump, jim trusty, lead to see you guys all here today. i mean, not a whole lot of legal news to talk about, so i don't know why you're all here right now. i'm were scraping the bottom right. is there a thing happening in the courts maram and of course, there is a huge de begin with, you, ellie you say of the arguments trump is making for immunity. one is stupid as hell, but the other isn't half bad. >> some good choices well, also one is not really being made donald trump is no longer arguing. i'm automatically immune for everything that happened every second of the four years i was president. he made that earlier, but he has wisely abandon that argument because because it's a loser, because it's ridiculous arguments not going to win. and some of the analysis sort of ends there. but there's more to it now, to the actual tool for arguments he is making. the stupid one to use a technical term is this claim that he has to first be impeached by the house, then convicted by the senate, and only then can be
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trump. he then shifted to trump's former lawyer, cohen, who he says this quote obsessed with trump& that cohen's financial livelihood depends on trump's destruction. david was the first witness to be called shortly before he took the stand. prosecutors referred to him as a coconspirator for helping trump tried to cover up his alleged affair tomorrow before the jury returns to the courtroom, there'll be a hearing about the gag order in this case. prosecutors alleged trump has violated this gag order over a half a dozen times. and this gag order prevents trump from attacking people involved in this case, like witnesses and the jury he is also barred from attacking family members of the prosecutors and the judge, though we can freely attack the judge or the district attorney, alvin bragg the app through that hearing will come back in the courtroom and david we back on stand. >> erin. all right. paula, thank you very much there in lower manhattan and our experts they're all here on set together
trump. he then shifted to trump's former lawyer, cohen, who he says this quote obsessed with trump& that cohen's financial livelihood depends on trump's destruction. david was the first witness to be called shortly before he took the stand. prosecutors referred to him as a coconspirator for helping trump tried to cover up his alleged affair tomorrow before the jury returns to the courtroom, there'll be a hearing about the gag order in this case. prosecutors alleged trump has violated this...
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donald trump. this photo shows pecker and the former president walking past the white house rose garden. the president asking him at that moment according to him, how is karen doing and he said he replied she is doing well, she is quiet, everything is going well. in another conversation he said he referred to dougal as our girl. he also suggested trump was angry about the interviews i did with her and stormy daniels. we will bring you excerpts from our coverage tonight. >> the supreme court oral arguments and the conservatives appeared to embrace some form of criminal immunity. the liberal minority by contrast focused on the temptation that might be for the future president if they have that. >> what i am more worried about you seem to be worried about the president being chilled. i think we would have a really significant opposite problem if the president wasn't chilled. if someone with those kinds of powers, the most powerful person in the world with the greatest amount of authority could go into
donald trump. this photo shows pecker and the former president walking past the white house rose garden. the president asking him at that moment according to him, how is karen doing and he said he replied she is doing well, she is quiet, everything is going well. in another conversation he said he referred to dougal as our girl. he also suggested trump was angry about the interviews i did with her and stormy daniels. we will bring you excerpts from our coverage tonight. >> the supreme...
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trump. it's about a united states citizen. you think it's a weak case it's the case is the facts of the case. the fact that learned counsel don't know exactly what the other charge is, is insane. >> i agree that when that indictment came out, i think i was sitting right here. i said, okay, the other crime they have to prove falsifying business records to commit and other crime is unclear and a mess and it remains that way until now because even now, the prosecutor said, well, there was federal election crimes. it was electric episode was packs crimes. i don't know where they're getting that from. they overpaid michael cohen so he could pay his taxes but i think the primary theory here is that the other crime is a federal campaign finance violations. and the theory is they falsified these records. it was a $130,000 payment. it campaign donation it campaign expenditure way over the limits. they falsified the records rather than calling them pay hush money payments, whatever might be an act acc
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donald trump? you don't think the jury is going to be somewhat offended that this guy who's running for president in the united states is involved with all these sleeves that he buried, that he buried is sex story you heard from their witness, so did this through celebrity sorted that celebrities this celebrities sort of celebrity, so this celebrity that happens all the time, it's not this unique. oh, god, they came this isn't watergate. that's my point. that watergate was a very unique time. it's the first time it's something like that is ever happen. what came out of cross examination is this happens all the time, but bringing it back to a temidayo said a moment ago, but this time they consulted their lawyers and then they started to back off because they realized that they were veering into territory with respect to the campaign that made them nervous about it the money with the money that's what matters here, is the money. >> but if i could jump out off of what you were saying on the stand, pec
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he could warn trump. he could find trump or he could jail donald trump. all three on the table before dtwo of testimony resume. cnn's bryngingras, liveutside of court bryn e contempt of court, a possibility for donald trump this mning. how ll this hearing go dow and there were any sense of how long might take befe ey get back to witnesthat at first ok t takinghe sta yesterday yeah. >> sara so the judge alrdy said they're going to art this hearing at 30 this morng. the juris goi to come back and the're goingo resume with that same witness at 100 a.m. if they're not finish with thhearing by 11, then th're going to discuss a little bit later. know th it only be an hour-and-a-half lf long for this hearing. and at we expect is what we've seen previously in court filings from the prosecution, they believe that donald trump has violated this gag order ten you said, there are a couple options that they're asking for. they want the judge to fine trump $1,000 for each time they the judge believes that he may have violated this order, but ey also said that ey want t
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we're expecting to see trump leave trump tower for a second time. already this morning, you're on probably cup of coffee number one, and donald trump's been out and baggett to his apartment through several times. >> c, it has alayna treene and supreme court analyst joan biskupic are standing by with much more at all as far as joan let's start with you. >> this is the from court matter. of course, at hand. >> what can we expect today? >> sure. good morning, kate and john. it's really a historic day with an untested question. can a former president be completely shielded from criminal prosecution for actions he took while in office now, this does come from the jack charges brought on behalf of the department of justice, the united states here alleging fraud, obstruction, denial of the right to vote things, culminating with the january 6, 2021 attack on the capitol lower federal court judges objected donald trump's claim of immunity here, saying whatever protection he had from criminal prosecution. while in office dissolved once he was out of office. b
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will not deliver trump policies. he will deliver chaos. >> and if anything lead to a backlash. >> so we'll set his policies much further back than they would otherwise be your even acknowledging he can't accomplish those? no publican policies what i was saying was, if you want trump's policies, if you're maga and want to make america great again, the other candidates will be successful at that much more than he will. >> but the reasons i stated that's going to be donald trump, that's right. >> i'm certainly not going to get anywhere near what i'd like under biden biden is not a great moral exemplar. >> okay and is he following the laws here? >> he is giving away another round of for forgiving student loans after he lost it in the supreme court and he thinks get away any things you can get away with it by getting it out the door before the election. >> but this is not enforcing the law and the borders, but those are policy differences that you disagree with. trump. i remember also when border numbers were at an all-ti
will not deliver trump policies. he will deliver chaos. >> and if anything lead to a backlash. >> so we'll set his policies much further back than they would otherwise be your even acknowledging he can't accomplish those? no publican policies what i was saying was, if you want trump's policies, if you're maga and want to make america great again, the other candidates will be successful at that much more than he will. >> but the reasons i stated that's going to be donald trump,...
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trump's. so i mean, that's the only reason that that matters. but the other thing i would just note, i mean, the karen mcdougal story is not over. this is just the beginning of what we will learn about this. karen mcdougal story. and when you look at the charges jeong documents here for trump, there are some hints about where this goes next david pecker ends up paying her, but at some point, he decides to not get reimbursed from trump wod and i'm curis as to why that happened. so ts is the opening salvo, but there's more to come. >> so again, you're not going to find the crime a to z found in any one paragraphf testimony, prosecutors have to build a case here. i think two things jump out at mfrom the transcriptone,his is a full nine alarm fire in trump wld & in the national enquirer in pecker'environment, they are i mean, they're pulling each other out of meetings. borderline panicking. the other thing is that a establishes a really important chain of communication because this is one of the r
trump's. so i mean, that's the only reason that that matters. but the other thing i would just note, i mean, the karen mcdougal story is not over. this is just the beginning of what we will learn about this. karen mcdougal story. and when you look at the charges jeong documents here for trump, there are some hints about where this goes next david pecker ends up paying her, but at some point, he decides to not get reimbursed from trump wod and i'm curis as to why that happened. so ts is the...
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trump's then lawyer turned fixer. michael cohen, told pecker not to release the doorman until after the presidential election. the agreement the doorman had made with ami in 2015 also stated that if he shared his story anywhere else, he'd be forced to pay a $1,000,000 penalty in 2019 after he'd been released from the deal, the doorman self-published a book, writing in the description, i was the trump doorman back then. i wasn't able to fully give my side of the story randi joins us now, where is that doorman today? >> what anderson we know that doorman certainly is no longer working at trump tower the last time cnn actually put eyes on him was back in 2018 when we tracked him down to his house. that was an eastern pennsylvania and that really was the last known address for him. he's really fallen off the radar, at least the media's radar until this trial, of course. and one would assume anderson that he's likely working somewhere, right. because that $30,000 he was paid was likely not enough for him to live on all the
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trump? pecker responded on no. so how does that help bolster the case that this was potentially criminal interference in the presidential election. >> yeah. was that the timing of that? particular meeting helps do it because there'll be right around the time we would expect that trump would be contemplating his run gearing up for the run, worried about potential negative press and i completely agree with kaitlan here. this is the start of a story that it's really going to be extending throughout this trial. it's not actually the crux of the criminal case. the crux of the criminal case concerns how and why stormy daniels was paid through michael cohen. that's gonna be the main event for the jurors. with this is all crucial context with the jury's to understand all of everything that leads as three microbreweries with us as well. a former us attorney, michael, let's talk a little bit about pecker's testimony. he said trump was quote, frugal in his approach to money. frugal, a direct quote personally reviewing all exp
trump? pecker responded on no. so how does that help bolster the case that this was potentially criminal interference in the presidential election. >> yeah. was that the timing of that? particular meeting helps do it because there'll be right around the time we would expect that trump would be contemplating his run gearing up for the run, worried about potential negative press and i completely agree with kaitlan here. this is the start of a story that it's really going to be extending...
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tower, were donald trump? we expect will shortly leave his apartment for the courthouse and lower manhattan. that is what is on the right. this is donald trump's new york criminal trial opening statements set to begin shortly. this is a history-making moment. no former president has ever faced a criminal trial before. he's opening statements will be something and we also learned that the first witness in this case will be david, the man who at one point, his company owned the national enquirer. he had a plea agreement with federal authorities admitting to be involved in catch and kill schemes. he will testify presumably to all of this. would donald trump in the courtroom we were watching that very closely. in the meantime, there is some new polling out in the last few days that shows the state of the rais with me, cnn senior data reporter, harry enten and harry, let's start with in general, how americans feel about this content. >> yeah, enthusiasm for 2020 before or not, when you got one guy who's now facing
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should donald trump? except whatever verdict the jury renders in this case well, my hope is that all americans can trust or judicial system, and that's really what this case we'll prove out. >> i think it's a little ridiculous that they've waited years to bring these types of charges against donald trump they wanted to make these kinds of charges against him. they should have done it two years ago when this happened to do it conveniently during a presidential election when he's campaigning to return to the white house, i think proves that this is all politically motivated. it's the way that democrats i started fighting these days is using the judicial system and activist judges to do so. my hope is that the people and the jury will do what is right and hear the evidence and see clearly that this is an unprecedented trial, but it's unprecedented in how ridiculous it is. >> well, this these allegations happened when he was president. that is in part for the prosecutors. why they say that he excuse me. the a
should donald trump? except whatever verdict the jury renders in this case well, my hope is that all americans can trust or judicial system, and that's really what this case we'll prove out. >> i think it's a little ridiculous that they've waited years to bring these types of charges against donald trump they wanted to make these kinds of charges against him. they should have done it two years ago when this happened to do it conveniently during a presidential election when he's...
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the attorney for donald trump was trying to defend a trump's social media post about the jury and trump's team was like just trying to pretend it was just to re-posting something that somebody on fox, jessie water said, but the judge pushed back and trump's team had to acknowledge that it wasn't simply a re-posting because trump had added words to it and judge merchan then told trump's team, quote, you're losing all credibility with the court. what do you think would have been a better way for trump's? team to defend their client from what seems that pretty cut and dry example of him violating the gag order. >> i mean, words that as the attorney in the courtroom, you never want to hear the judge say to you, you're losing all credibility with me. so that's painful i think i think that a probably i would probably argue along first amendment grounds that it's protected speech, that it didn't directly attack anyone, that it wasn't his words, but i think for the defense team, it's a very tough situation because you have a client who has his own sort of pull political agenda, who's feels the ne
the attorney for donald trump was trying to defend a trump's social media post about the jury and trump's team was like just trying to pretend it was just to re-posting something that somebody on fox, jessie water said, but the judge pushed back and trump's team had to acknowledge that it wasn't simply a re-posting because trump had added words to it and judge merchan then told trump's team, quote, you're losing all credibility with the court. what do you think would have been a better way for...