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so trump's attorney or the defense attorney, emile bove, is asking you a series of questions since right now, if david pecker, the witness, about how prosecutors in fact prepared pecker to give, quote, consistent testimony. >> every time he's testified, david chatterley and some very interesting testimony not long ago this afternoon, we're david pecker recalled a phone conversation. he had with trump's white house team at the time according to mr. packer, hope hicks, and sarah huckabee sanders sara was the communications director or the press secretary, and hope x was a special assistant to the president. >> he talked pecker says with hicks and sanders about whether karen mcdougal's contract it should be extended. >> so just to remind people, karen mcdougal is 1998 playmate of the year, who alleged she had a long term affair and part of the catch and kill was to give her $150,000, david pecker did to have her not tell her story publicly it was not a script pecker said going on to confirm he wasn't surprised by any questions from the prosecutor. that's about the separate issue about wheth
so trump's attorney or the defense attorney, emile bove, is asking you a series of questions since right now, if david pecker, the witness, about how prosecutors in fact prepared pecker to give, quote, consistent testimony. >> every time he's testified, david chatterley and some very interesting testimony not long ago this afternoon, we're david pecker recalled a phone conversation. he had with trump's white house team at the time according to mr. packer, hope hicks, and sarah huckabee...
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i would have to reread the stories to answer that question. >> emil bove then continues down this line of questioning, asking david pecker, the witness. it was standard operating procedure for the national enquirer or two sort of recycled content from other publications and frame it's slightly differently correct? correct. that's cost-effective. correct. >> information from the public domain goes into the national enquirer. it's quick and easy, correct? yes. good for business? yes. >> beauvais then asks, there was already negative information in the public domain about ben carson. and so you ran it in the national enquirer, right? yes. and because that was quick and efficient and cost-effective, you would have done that whether or not you had discussed it with president trump, correct? >> yes. >> wolf very interesting testimony, indeed. thanks for bringing that to our attention. i'm glad you're going through that whole transcript now. very important indeed, let's get to him, alice this and what's going on? i'm lead counsel for special counsel, robert mueller's investigation of donald t
i would have to reread the stories to answer that question. >> emil bove then continues down this line of questioning, asking david pecker, the witness. it was standard operating procedure for the national enquirer or two sort of recycled content from other publications and frame it's slightly differently correct? correct. that's cost-effective. correct. >> information from the public domain goes into the national enquirer. it's quick and easy, correct? yes. good for business? yes....
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here's the exchange between pecker and trump's attorney emil bove vey beauvais said, so if this story was true, the doorman's story, you were going to run it, correct? pecker says yes because you had a fiduciary obligation patient to do that, right. says beauvais pecker says that is correct, but they said it would have made business sense to put it mildly to run such an article if it was true, correct. twitch, pecker replied, yes. now, we should point out in testimony earlier this week, pecker did testify under oath that if he ran the story, it would have been after the election which makes the argument that this was to protect trump going into the election. but as soon as the election was over, pecker would have run that doorman's story because it would have been in his words, extremely popular or not his exact words. but he said it would've been extremely popular among the national enquirer for audience back with the panel joining us as well as barry levine, former executive editor of the national enquirer. barry, i'm wondering, you know, david pecker, obviously. well, you worked wi
here's the exchange between pecker and trump's attorney emil bove vey beauvais said, so if this story was true, the doorman's story, you were going to run it, correct? pecker says yes because you had a fiduciary obligation patient to do that, right. says beauvais pecker says that is correct, but they said it would have made business sense to put it mildly to run such an article if it was true, correct. twitch, pecker replied, yes. now, we should point out in testimony earlier this week, pecker...
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bove as questioning of the former national enquirer publisher. he attempted to discredit one of the prosecution's key witnesses, trump's x personal lazzarini, michael cohen. he asked pecker if you felt cohen was prone to exaggeration. pecker agreed he was after court. trump weighed in on the trial, eight days that we sitting in this courthouse i just want to thank everybody for being here. >> this, is like. everybody else michael cohen's bank or took the stand friday afternoon, he described to the jury how he helped cohen set up the shell company that was ultimately used to transfer the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels. >> there's no court on monday, so the banker will be back on the stand tuesday. we're prosecutors will continue to question him then, donald trump's attorneys will get a chance to cross-examine him as his trial continues into next week, amara victor, kara scannell. thanks so much and doing now by former federal prosecutor, at least we'll good morning to you. let me start here with david pecker and then kind of go through some of
bove as questioning of the former national enquirer publisher. he attempted to discredit one of the prosecution's key witnesses, trump's x personal lazzarini, michael cohen. he asked pecker if you felt cohen was prone to exaggeration. pecker agreed he was after court. trump weighed in on the trial, eight days that we sitting in this courthouse i just want to thank everybody for being here. >> this, is like. everybody else michael cohen's bank or took the stand friday afternoon, he...
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bove as questioning of the former national enquirer publisher. he attempted to discredit one of the prosecution's key witnesses, trump's x person it's an old attorney, michael cohen. he asked pecker if you felt cohen was prone to exaggeration? pecker agreed he was after court, trump weighed in on the trial eight days that we all sitting in courthouse. i just want to thank everybody. i'm michele for through this, like everybody else michael cohen's banker took the stand on friday afternoon, explaining to the dreo he helped set up a bank account for the shell company that cohen ultimately used to transfer the $130,000 payment stormy daniels, there's no court on monday, but the banker will be back on the stand tuesday, answering question from prosecutors before trump's lawyers get a turn at him. >> kara scannell, cnn, new york former president donald trump will also have a key hearing next week on the gag order against him. thursday morning. judge, merchan will weigh prosecutors arguments that trump violated the order four more times this week when
bove as questioning of the former national enquirer publisher. he attempted to discredit one of the prosecution's key witnesses, trump's x person it's an old attorney, michael cohen. he asked pecker if you felt cohen was prone to exaggeration? pecker agreed he was after court, trump weighed in on the trial eight days that we all sitting in courthouse. i just want to thank everybody. i'm michele for through this, like everybody else michael cohen's banker took the stand on friday afternoon,...
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bove as questioning of the former national enquirer publisher. he attempted to discredit one of the prosecution's key witnesses, trump's x personally the attorney michael cohen. he asked pecker if you felt cohen was prone to exaggeration. pecker agreed he was after court. trump weighed in on the trial, eight days that we sitting in courthouse. i just want to thank hey, everybody for being here michelle for through this, like everybody else. >> michael cohen's banker took the stand on friday afternoon, explaining to the dreo he helped set up a bank account for the shell company that cohen ultimately used to transfer the $130,000 payment stormy daniels, there's no court on monday, but the banker will be back on the stand tuesday, answering question from prosecutors before trump's lawyers get a turn at him. kara scannell, cnn, new york and coming up former us attorney general, bill barr says donald trump should not be anywhere near the oval office, yet he still plans to vote for him assignment with hottie cornish. >> listen wherever you get your pod
bove as questioning of the former national enquirer publisher. he attempted to discredit one of the prosecution's key witnesses, trump's x personally the attorney michael cohen. he asked pecker if you felt cohen was prone to exaggeration. pecker agreed he was after court. trump weighed in on the trial, eight days that we sitting in courthouse. i just want to thank hey, everybody for being here michelle for through this, like everybody else. >> michael cohen's banker took the stand on...
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bove, said, this can only be done once, and it must be done right, because the impact it will have on this election that a lawyer for the district attorney's office, steven wu, is their chief appellate attorney. he had pushed back on this saying that this was entirely the wrong way to challenge any of these rulings. so that can only hey, don procedurally after there is a conclusion to this case, a verdict in this trial, he urged the judge saying there is a powerful public interests to ensure this trial moves forward on the scheduled date and just a short time after that, the judge issued this ruling denying the stay, denying trump's effort to stop the trial. what was extraordinary today will win is that this court had a full calendar of appeal arguments, that it was hearing what they had to do was move this down to the basement to rearrange the tables to create a makeshift courtroom so they could accommodate this hearing today. so they created a table for the judge, a table for the attorneys to argue, and then a table and chairs in the back for us in the media media to be able to witn
bove, said, this can only be done once, and it must be done right, because the impact it will have on this election that a lawyer for the district attorney's office, steven wu, is their chief appellate attorney. he had pushed back on this saying that this was entirely the wrong way to challenge any of these rulings. so that can only hey, don procedurally after there is a conclusion to this case, a verdict in this trial, he urged the judge saying there is a powerful public interests to ensure...
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pecker says, yes, later emil bove, the defense attorney, says standard operating procedure, as you understand it, correct? pecker says yes. bradley moss. how much does that stick? do you think the jury will be convinced this is just standard operating procedure or after three days of david pecker do you think they're left with a feeling that something unusual was going on here. >> yeah. >> as much as they're going to try to hit this standard operating procedure line. >> this was a rather unique set of circumstances in the way they frame this agreement. i don't think anything we were heard so far on cross-examinati on and want to certainly see what comes out today as outlined. a similar set of facts comparable to what michael cohen when donald trump is set up. so as this goes through, there, obviously they're gonna try to dirty up the national enquirer grade. it's not like they had a pristine reputation in the first place, becomes a question for the jury of do we view this as unique? was this something distinguishable from the normal standard operating procedures, the normal way the national e
pecker says, yes, later emil bove, the defense attorney, says standard operating procedure, as you understand it, correct? pecker says yes. bradley moss. how much does that stick? do you think the jury will be convinced this is just standard operating procedure or after three days of david pecker do you think they're left with a feeling that something unusual was going on here. >> yeah. >> as much as they're going to try to hit this standard operating procedure line. >> this...
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. >> trump's attorney, emil bove, a asking if he believed cohen was prone to exaggeration, pecker agreeing that he was the end of it all, the former president had this to say about the trials so far this is eight days that we all sitting in this courthouse. this is all biden-run indictment it's an order to try and win election political opponent nothing like this has ever happened eight days country is going to hell and we sit here day after, day after day, which is their plan well, the foreign president offer no evidence. of course, who any of those claims. there's no evidence that any of what he said is true. and i'm joining us tonight, new york criminal defense attorney arthur aidala, also attorney and former apprentice contestant stacey schneider, cnn political commentator earl lewis cnn legal analyst let's karen friedman, agnifilo and elie honig and cnn's kara scannell, who was in the courtroom today. and we'll be going through the transcript for us throughout the night i want to ask this everybody for care of for you. what stood out today well, i had an actual front row seat today, s
. >> trump's attorney, emil bove, a asking if he believed cohen was prone to exaggeration, pecker agreeing that he was the end of it all, the former president had this to say about the trials so far this is eight days that we all sitting in this courthouse. this is all biden-run indictment it's an order to try and win election political opponent nothing like this has ever happened eight days country is going to hell and we sit here day after, day after day, which is their plan well, the...
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beauvais, who is it was an interesting, interesting q&a in this back-and-forth with emil bove vein who is a defense attorney for mr. trump pecker acknowledged that negative press for trump's foes was generally good for business pecker said that if the false door man allegations had been true, he would have run the story after the election beauvais elicited from pecker that catch and kill. the term catch and kill buying a story in order to not run it so that it doesn't run anywhere else to protect mr. trump in this case, allegedly, tkatchenko was not discussed at the august 2015 meeting? the defense elicited from packer that he wanted nothing to do with the stormy daniels allegations and the defense made sure to spell out for the jurors that the karen mcdougal deal was reviewed by an election law attorney, jim. do any of these standout to you as important? bits of information for the defense of donald trump for the defense, i would say, you know, in hopefully you set this up an opening statement, but you need to just kinda pound home that were not fighting every single fact that moves i
beauvais, who is it was an interesting, interesting q&a in this back-and-forth with emil bove vein who is a defense attorney for mr. trump pecker acknowledged that negative press for trump's foes was generally good for business pecker said that if the false door man allegations had been true, he would have run the story after the election beauvais elicited from pecker that catch and kill. the term catch and kill buying a story in order to not run it so that it doesn't run anywhere else to...
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so the fact that emil bove is the one who moved over to that chair suggests that he will be doing the cross-examination of david pecker at that point when that when that time comes, do you have any sense of how long pecker may be on the stand today in the hands of the prosecution. >> it's unclear because as you know, he did not i have as much to do with stormy daniels as he did with the karen mcdougal and dino sajudin doorman hush money one payments. so are the catch and kill payment i should say. and so by trump said to david pecker, i'm going to be turning this over to michael cohen and that's a lot of the interaction pecker might have had with michael cohen exactly. and i think that's what you're going to expect. the cross-examination of david pecker to be it's going to be all the times that donald trump was it's not involved that only michael cohen was because i think the defense attorney is going to want to make this all about michael cohen's credibility and distance trump as much as possible. >> they really trump attorney todd blanche is nodding along as trump speaks with him be
so the fact that emil bove is the one who moved over to that chair suggests that he will be doing the cross-examination of david pecker at that point when that when that time comes, do you have any sense of how long pecker may be on the stand today in the hands of the prosecution. >> it's unclear because as you know, he did not i have as much to do with stormy daniels as he did with the karen mcdougal and dino sajudin doorman hush money one payments. so are the catch and kill payment i...
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bove or both? former federal prosecutor. so they've been part of those conversations and it looks to me like they are choosing their battles. they have not tried to destroy david pecker. they're trying to pull out certain facts that are helpful. they're saving their fire from michael cohen because i was actually the person who asked donald trump it's nice. >> and exedra. >> i'm curious. do you how do you stop that kind of interesting. i think we're having a little bit of trouble with your audio. we're going to get back to you. so crescent hold that thought person asked kristin asked donald trump about david pecker listening, donald trump's response that he's a good guy and she was yeah. it's a tough one because all that donald trump could really say there to comply with the gag order is i can't comment on that under the existing order. and you made a really good point data you are technically violating the gag order not to if you say something negative or intimidating, but also if you say something
bove or both? former federal prosecutor. so they've been part of those conversations and it looks to me like they are choosing their battles. they have not tried to destroy david pecker. they're trying to pull out certain facts that are helpful. they're saving their fire from michael cohen because i was actually the person who asked donald trump it's nice. >> and exedra. >> i'm curious. do you how do you stop that kind of interesting. i think we're having a little bit of trouble...
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where trump attorney emile bove drill down on david pecker is 2018 interview with the fbi and some inconsistencies between notes from that interview and pecker's current testimony emerged, how do inconsistencies like that way in a jury as they look at a case well, i think it's more about how the jury already has viewed the witness, where they feel that he's been authentic and sincere and straightforward with them. >> if they feel that he's been kind of a little bit shady and some of his answers, even on the direct testimony, they don't particularly like him, then they can see those inconsistencies as really key to credibility problems. but a lot of times we do focus on minor points and whether that really does it and sometimes it's a forest for the trees type of issue. jury is really looking at, well, what is this really say? is this really a bad conduct? tier? what is really say about the witness, these small inconsistencies tend to not have that gradient impact unless there's a big blow to the witnesses credibility. so i'm not sure it's going to have a tremendous effect at this point. >> yeah, i
where trump attorney emile bove drill down on david pecker is 2018 interview with the fbi and some inconsistencies between notes from that interview and pecker's current testimony emerged, how do inconsistencies like that way in a jury as they look at a case well, i think it's more about how the jury already has viewed the witness, where they feel that he's been authentic and sincere and straightforward with them. >> if they feel that he's been kind of a little bit shady and some of his...
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bove, is taken in the podium to begin the cross-examination of david pecker. >> so from the perspective of the jury, they've been hearing now over several days broken up, and i think that's important, emphasized broken up the direct examination of pecker. now you have the cross-examination starting they're not going to sleep on it. it's not going to start to morning tomorrow morning. it starting right now. what do you think about that from? what it means for the jury they will definitely have overnight before they hear the completion of the cross i'd be surprised if they finished it today so they'll have a lot of time to think about it if they choose to think about it. >> one of the things that jurors do look pretty closely at what when it comes to direct versus cross-examination is the demeanor of the witness. and day today, how does that demean or change or not? so jurors focus quite a lot on the content of what witnesses say, but they also focus on the demeanor that ange from direct across data de morning to afternoon depending on the content. and if they can draw any connections bet
bove, is taken in the podium to begin the cross-examination of david pecker. >> so from the perspective of the jury, they've been hearing now over several days broken up, and i think that's important, emphasized broken up the direct examination of pecker. now you have the cross-examination starting they're not going to sleep on it. it's not going to start to morning tomorrow morning. it starting right now. what do you think about that from? what it means for the jury they will definitely...
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bove, who's now sitting in the first chair and let's set the stage for the testimony we're going to hear today. if we can't elie honig because david obviously played a crucial role, at least in trump's mind, in his 2016 campaign helping to suppress stories that would be damaging and helping to push stories. however nonsensical against donald trump's opponents. and right now, i'm thinking about the story about ted cruz's dad right? somehow being involved in the kennedy assassination and completely deranged story pushed by the national enquirer that donald trump in may when he of 2016, when he was still facing off against ted cruz, was pushing when he would do the interviews. >> david is the ultimate insider here and he and trump, it's important, understand, they go way back. >> they used to hang out in manhattan and hit the party siem together and they had been doing this caching kill tactic well before donald trump was even a candidate, which by the way, may come into play when it comes to his motivation david, is there from the inception of this particular scheme, august 2015, we'r
bove, who's now sitting in the first chair and let's set the stage for the testimony we're going to hear today. if we can't elie honig because david obviously played a crucial role, at least in trump's mind, in his 2016 campaign helping to suppress stories that would be damaging and helping to push stories. however nonsensical against donald trump's opponents. and right now, i'm thinking about the story about ted cruz's dad right? somehow being involved in the kennedy assassination and...