we don't need c-span to confirm it but i think critically, what the videos show, i don't know these women. >> i don't know anything about a meanwhile, if you connect the dots, you heard other testimony, you even heard rode his administrative assistant? yep. they want the contact, stormy daniel's was in the contact. listen to trump organization. right. so as karen mcdougal oh, and by the way, start mcdonald's had an interview at some point it may have been from the practice. we don't know so it just goes to show that he's misrepresenting if he's misrepresenting about that what else is he missed? >> is that what you think the purpose of this was not too eventually prove that he did indeed have fairs with these women, but certainly he knew them. karen mcdougal, he referred to as our girl, correct we saw that in some of the communications, yeah, absolutely. this was a lot of to do about just small points, but there's small points. we're going to see that doing the closing arguments, these points where he is lying to you about these affairs, and you can't believe anything he's saying obviously