operations, a complicated deal involving microsoft and oracle. this case is the opposite. they are not working anything out or contemplating the option seriously. there are a few reasons. they see elections in the united states or in november and they no changes in the administration can change their fate in the political outlook. the business in the united states is much bigger than it was four years ago. there's about hundred 70 million users -- 170 million users in the u.s. and they are generating a lot of revenue and they feel like they could take this to the courts, they can sue to stop legislation, they can get a temporary stay and play the long game to see whether they can be this out. annabelle: and the long game perhaps could involve exiting the u.s. market for a time, but can tiktok survive given the u.s. is such a key market now? >> and -- that's a very good question. i think they look at it this way. if they sell u.s. operations to somebody else, they lose that forever. whereas if they shudder operations to fight in court, they have an opportunity to regain the