he says that when one story came out by a former playboy model, karen mcdougal, that he believed she was telling the truth. he alerted donald trump. they agreed that they should buy her story. he testified that he paid her $150,000 for kind of the rights for her story, but disguised it as services paid so he wouldn't violate any campaign finance laws. he then goes on to telljurors in the court that when he tried to get reimbursed from mr trump through his lawyer, michael cohen, his general counsel at the national enquirer, really warned him against that because of legal concerns. and so he says he ultimately dropped that. so that really kind of laid the groundwork for prosecutors to get into the key payment that is at the centre of this case, the $130,000 that michael cohen paid to stormy daniels, which prosecutors here allege donald trump directed. so we've really gotten to kind of the david pecker testifying about kind of the timeline and the intent here, that this was all to help donald trump's campaign, allegedly. i spoke earlier with annemarie mcavoy — a former us federal pros