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stormy daniels for her part, yes, there may have been some communications but there's never been any allegation there was any sexual assault. she also is trying to extort him. and ndas, everybody does ndas. rich people do ndas. this was not any type of an effort to corrupt the election. and even to influence the election, there's nothing wrong with it, that's what democracy is all about. >> jill, it is a conspiracy case and i'm glad you brought up the case, it's not a hush money case. it's also a group of people who got together and committed crimes for someone else. in the case of the watergate burglars, in the case of even the attorney general of the united states, they committed the crimes and went to prison, but they did it for nixon. they didn't have any personal gain. in this case, donald trump is the only one who gained from this conspiracy. it's difficult for me to understand what the defense is if you say, yeah, all the things you say he did, he did, but there was nothing wrong with it. >> it's incredible. and i have been a defense lawyer as well as a prosecutor. and i can s
stormy daniels for her part, yes, there may have been some communications but there's never been any allegation there was any sexual assault. she also is trying to extort him. and ndas, everybody does ndas. rich people do ndas. this was not any type of an effort to corrupt the election. and even to influence the election, there's nothing wrong with it, that's what democracy is all about. >> jill, it is a conspiracy case and i'm glad you brought up the case, it's not a hush money case....
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daniel jones, as much as richard, i believe, you have more faith in him than jen, daniel jones is a sunk cost. how do you hope the $40 million man? get the receiver. >> i think giants get props for not creating a quarterback controversy. jones for $40 million. he's never had a chance. they've had a terrible offensive line. they now gave him a good weapon. we could argue whether they maybe got the wrong weapon. maybe they should have gotten baures, the best tight end. >> out of georgia. >> maybe another offensive lineman for the right side of the line. they avoided a quarterback controversy. i think they said, daniels jones never had a fair chance. we'll give him another year, try to build a better team. if it doesn't work, draft a quarterback last year. last i checked, giants have five more draft picks this year. i wouldn't be surprised if one of those is their version of, let's go for a late-round quarterback. maybe he'll develop. >> late-round value is there to be had. it is the most underrated part of this thing. you're a day one guy or nothing. we're talking about the day one guys, t
daniel jones, as much as richard, i believe, you have more faith in him than jen, daniel jones is a sunk cost. how do you hope the $40 million man? get the receiver. >> i think giants get props for not creating a quarterback controversy. jones for $40 million. he's never had a chance. they've had a terrible offensive line. they now gave him a good weapon. we could argue whether they maybe got the wrong weapon. maybe they should have gotten baures, the best tight end. >> out of...
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there was the third one, stormy daniels. by this point, the inquirer was willing to make arrangements for her to be paid, to be quiet about that story. at that point they were not willing to put up additional money. michael cohen put up the money for that. the prosecutors explain this to the jury and then he says, prosecutor colangelo,, quote, cohen made the payment donald trump's direction benefit. he did it with the goal of influencing the outcome of the election. look, no politician wants bad press. the evidence at trial show it was not spinner communication strategy. it was a planned coordinated long-running conspiracy to influence the election, to help donald trump get elected through illegal expenditures. to silence people put something bad to say about his behavior using doctored corporate records and bank forms to conceal those payments along the way. it was election fraud pure and simple. we will never know if this conspiracy was the difference maker in a close election. you will see evidence and the defendant's on
there was the third one, stormy daniels. by this point, the inquirer was willing to make arrangements for her to be paid, to be quiet about that story. at that point they were not willing to put up additional money. michael cohen put up the money for that. the prosecutors explain this to the jury and then he says, prosecutor colangelo,, quote, cohen made the payment donald trump's direction benefit. he did it with the goal of influencing the outcome of the election. look, no politician wants...
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you're looking at this giant six-figure payments to macdougal and to daniels. it's a totally different ball game. >> also, he didn't admit to campaign finance violations although he might have committed state crimes in the arnold schwarzenegger case. >> the reason that david pecker said he was even sensitive to the campaign finance angle of paying mcdougal in the first place, which is what caused him to lord it up with services, he was sensitive about that because as a function of what he had done for arnold schwarzenegger, he had caught the attention of regulators and investigators, and he narrowly escaped. he knew that was a problem. he tried to structure the karen mcdougal payout agreement in a way that would evade campaign finance problems. the only issue is as josh steinglass expertly elicited from him, while they did hire outside expert counsel to review that agreement, they didn't tell that counsel about, for example, the august 2015 meeting at which they had that agreement. they didn't represent to him all of the facts that a lawyer would need to render
you're looking at this giant six-figure payments to macdougal and to daniels. it's a totally different ball game. >> also, he didn't admit to campaign finance violations although he might have committed state crimes in the arnold schwarzenegger case. >> the reason that david pecker said he was even sensitive to the campaign finance angle of paying mcdougal in the first place, which is what caused him to lord it up with services, he was sensitive about that because as a function of...
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, stormy daniels, stormy daniels. i thought if stormy daniels is in this indictment karen has to be here too, and i was just over there actually reading it on my iphone. i talk about this in the piece. and then i see dino the doorman is there. it was like a reunion tour of all these payments. and then crucially was that meeting, the meeting in 2015 is talked about in the indictment. and i did become overcome -- was overcome by emotion because everything that i was whispering late at night to friends in bars, conspiratrial saying there's something going on here and they were saying to me lachs you need to just chill out, it's not like there's a big conspiracy here to throw the election. well, it turns out there was actually a lot more to that than i appreciated at the time. so that moment to me down here was incredibly emotional because it just proved to me everything i thought for all those years was correct. >> yeah, there is a thing that trump world does where they make you think it's you, not them. and i've been co
, stormy daniels, stormy daniels. i thought if stormy daniels is in this indictment karen has to be here too, and i was just over there actually reading it on my iphone. i talk about this in the piece. and then i see dino the doorman is there. it was like a reunion tour of all these payments. and then crucially was that meeting, the meeting in 2015 is talked about in the indictment. and i did become overcome -- was overcome by emotion because everything that i was whispering late at night to...
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say michael: used to obtain a $130,000 home equity loan which michael cohen later funneled to stormy daniels through a shell company. friday, he authenticated bank records which prosecutors showed to jurors. that testimony will continue in trial resumes tuesday morning. prosecutors are using his testimony to authenticate documents related to the transaction. that testimony continues when the trial resumes tuesday morning. judge merchan announced a gag order hearing will take place thursday, to hear new arguments about all of the alleged violations that donald trump has committed this week. leaving off our discussion, we were in the courtroom and will be every day of the trial. a fellow at security and the former supervisor of the prosecutions and civil rights union of the eastern district of new york. good evening. unlike a lot of trump supporters and family, you've been there watching what's going on. tell us what happened. we had interesting testimony. >> we did. the first and foremost thing, we had the end of david testimony. this has been a weeklong testimony that sent the course of this
say michael: used to obtain a $130,000 home equity loan which michael cohen later funneled to stormy daniels through a shell company. friday, he authenticated bank records which prosecutors showed to jurors. that testimony will continue in trial resumes tuesday morning. prosecutors are using his testimony to authenticate documents related to the transaction. that testimony continues when the trial resumes tuesday morning. judge merchan announced a gag order hearing will take place thursday, to...
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it wasn't stormy daniels. it was david pecker. there must be a reason for that. they have faith in him. we'll see if he delivers today. >> he's also somebody notably that trump hasn't been attacking on social media when they're arguing this gag order and whether he violated it. the other key thing that we know of is what david pecker knew, what he was involved in, and we spoke with msnbc spoke with the former executive editor of "the national enquirer," who worked with pecker, he was on with nicolle wallace yesterday. take a listen. >> august 2015, two months after donald trump goes down the escalator where they had this meeting, michael cohen and it is trump and it is david pecker and where pecker says he'll be the eyes and ears of the campaign. the organization i used to work for will purchase negative stories off the market and will run negative stories about your rivals. david pecker can really act as a tour guide for the jury. >> kristen, he takes us back to 2015, before trump was president, during the campaign. how important is that, that meeting, in 2015,
it wasn't stormy daniels. it was david pecker. there must be a reason for that. they have faith in him. we'll see if he delivers today. >> he's also somebody notably that trump hasn't been attacking on social media when they're arguing this gag order and whether he violated it. the other key thing that we know of is what david pecker knew, what he was involved in, and we spoke with msnbc spoke with the former executive editor of "the national enquirer," who worked with pecker,...
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how to pay michael cohen, pay stormy daniels through michael cohen, and cover it up. i don't think that their argument that there was this ironclad wall between trump and his business during the presidency holds up. certainly wasn't true this a legal sense and a practical sense too. information about the business was kept from them. >> and eli, how does reporting square with what we have learned from cohen, for example, and the story the prosecutor and the defense laid out today. they were different stories. >> well, if you're talking about how this relates back to the election, what we know, and what we knew at the time was that this happened in the context of a very close race with a month or so to go until election day and polls starting to show the race moving away from trump after the first debate with hillary clinton, and so you can really see in the way the campaign reacted to it that, you know, this was something that they were concerned about. people very close to trump thought the race was over. thought he was going to have to drop out. or sort of politely u
how to pay michael cohen, pay stormy daniels through michael cohen, and cover it up. i don't think that their argument that there was this ironclad wall between trump and his business during the presidency holds up. certainly wasn't true this a legal sense and a practical sense too. information about the business was kept from them. >> and eli, how does reporting square with what we have learned from cohen, for example, and the story the prosecutor and the defense laid out today. they...
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she verified that trump did, in fact, have contact info for stormy daniels and karen mcdougal, two women who are central to this case. we also heard from a banking executive who worked with michael cohen, and who testified about the finances surrounding a shell company of cohen's. his testimony is set to continue into next week. alex? >> okay, and what are you watching for when court resumes on tuesday, specifically? >> alex, it is going to be a shorter week in court. it is not happening on monday. he is back on tuesday. that banking executive is set to continue and this witness list is expected to grow throughout the week. on wednesday, he is out of the courtroom and back on the campaign trail, hitting two major midwestern battleground states, wisconsin and michigan. on thursday, he is back in the courtroom for a gag order hearing on thursday morning. as these alleged violations continue to pile up until the judge's ruling. i want you to hear from the former president as he left court yesterday. take a listen. >> this is eight days that we have all been sitting in this courthouse. this
she verified that trump did, in fact, have contact info for stormy daniels and karen mcdougal, two women who are central to this case. we also heard from a banking executive who worked with michael cohen, and who testified about the finances surrounding a shell company of cohen's. his testimony is set to continue into next week. alex? >> okay, and what are you watching for when court resumes on tuesday, specifically? >> alex, it is going to be a shorter week in court. it is not...
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the man in this room, made these hush money payments and they could prove that, and he paid to stormy daniels and then he falsified business records intentionally and knowingly, not that something got written down wrong, but this defendant, he did it. and did he it for a reason. and they're going to say, something along the lines of, and i know this because i read the indictment and i know a good opening statement will say that he did it to lie to you. to orchestrate a scheme to influence the 2016 presidential election, that means every voter in america including the new york voters who are jurors, to purchase this negative information and then to very specific mischaracterize that for other crimes, taxes, campaign finance, designed to hide the true nature of the payments and if this is anything like other financial payments you might hear prosecutors say things like you wouldn't get away with this. you might have just filed your taxes recently, you might worry about those kind of things. and even if you make an honest mistake on your taxes you have to go back and admit it and fix it and pay
the man in this room, made these hush money payments and they could prove that, and he paid to stormy daniels and then he falsified business records intentionally and knowingly, not that something got written down wrong, but this defendant, he did it. and did he it for a reason. and they're going to say, something along the lines of, and i know this because i read the indictment and i know a good opening statement will say that he did it to lie to you. to orchestrate a scheme to influence the...
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>> they introduced a small fact, which is that the stormy daniels can't -- contact information is in the system. i suspect that was presented because we will see the prosecutor's attempt to establish that trump and stormy daniels did, in fact, have an intimate sexual encounter which trump has denied, and trump's lawyers denied in the opening statement. i think this is the first piece of evidence and i guess that there would be more. my guess is prosecutors want to be able to say to jurors at the end of this, you don't have to just take her word, we have additional evidence, trump is been saying she's lying, and this and that. that, to me, is the significance, because if the prosecutors can establish that trump, to the extent that they can establish that trump is lying about anything, it's helpful to their case. it's a big point. he's denied he's had this encounter but appears that it did in fact happen. >> michael collins banker was briefly on stand today and it seems the prosecution is starting to dig into the records . we are talking dollars and sense, who signed what, specific dat
>> they introduced a small fact, which is that the stormy daniels can't -- contact information is in the system. i suspect that was presented because we will see the prosecutor's attempt to establish that trump and stormy daniels did, in fact, have an intimate sexual encounter which trump has denied, and trump's lawyers denied in the opening statement. i think this is the first piece of evidence and i guess that there would be more. my guess is prosecutors want to be able to say to jurors...
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daniels from going public with her claim. additionally pecker said his conversations with cohen included asking trump to pay cohen back at cohen's request. trump has denied any sexual encounters with daniels or mcdougal. danny, we mention how it appears the defense here is trying to lay this groundwork any dealings trump had with pecker were meant to protect trump as a person -- again, we're talking personal not official capacities. but why is that so important here? >> the cross-examination yesterday started off in a very predictable direction. number one, attack the witness's memory. number two, he's essentially a cooperating witness so go into the deal he made with federal and state prosecutors. yes, specific to these facts, what the defense is trying to develop is that this is the kind of thing that pecker, ami, cohen, that they were doing for a long time. this relationship, whatever you want to call it, this catch and kill relation existed in some form or another, and it dated back to the 2000s. for literally years, mayb
daniels from going public with her claim. additionally pecker said his conversations with cohen included asking trump to pay cohen back at cohen's request. trump has denied any sexual encounters with daniels or mcdougal. danny, we mention how it appears the defense here is trying to lay this groundwork any dealings trump had with pecker were meant to protect trump as a person -- again, we're talking personal not official capacities. but why is that so important here? >> the...
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we haven't heard anything yet about how is the stormy daniels transaction booked. that's the underlying crime first before we get to the election interference. haven't had one word about that yet. >> and so jessica, we know david pecker has said he entered this cooperating agreement in 2019 with the manhattan district attorney's office. do you believe other witnesses could also have received these cooperating agreements? >> we don't know yet. that was the first time that was revealed that he personally had a non-prosecution agreement to testify. we already knew that ami had a non-prosecution agreement with federal prosecutors, but we learned that david pecker personally has this non-prosecution agreement with the d.a.'s office that subjects him to prosecution for perjury, if he perjures himself, but immunizes him from prosecution for his involvement in the schemes he's testifying to. whether people have non-prosecution agreements, i don't see any indication of that. obviously michael cohen has his own history. he does not have a non-prosecution agreement. he never
we haven't heard anything yet about how is the stormy daniels transaction booked. that's the underlying crime first before we get to the election interference. haven't had one word about that yet. >> and so jessica, we know david pecker has said he entered this cooperating agreement in 2019 with the manhattan district attorney's office. do you believe other witnesses could also have received these cooperating agreements? >> we don't know yet. that was the first time that was...
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then there was the third one, stormy daniels. although, at this point, the "the national enquirer" was willing to make arrangements for her to be paid, to be quiet about that story, by that point, they were not ready to put up additional money. so, michael cohen put up the money for that. the prosecutors explained all of this to the jury and then he says this. prosecutor matthew colangelo. " michael cohen made that payment at donald trump's direction and for his benefit and he did it with a specific goal of influencing the outcome of the election. now look, no politician wants bad press. but, the evidence at trial will show this was not spin or communication strategy. this was a planned, coordinated, long-running conspiracy to influence the 2016 election, to help donald trump get elected legal expenditures, to silence people who had something bad to say about his behavior using doctored corporate records and bank forms to conceal those payments along the way. it was election fraud, pure and simple. we will never know it it doesn'
then there was the third one, stormy daniels. although, at this point, the "the national enquirer" was willing to make arrangements for her to be paid, to be quiet about that story, by that point, they were not ready to put up additional money. so, michael cohen put up the money for that. the prosecutors explained all of this to the jury and then he says this. prosecutor matthew colangelo. " michael cohen made that payment at donald trump's direction and for his benefit and he...
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, and this was not just a stormy daniels-michael cohen agreement. >> andrew? >> this reminds me, you, me and vaughn feels like four years ago, i think two days ago -- >> 17 years ago, aka yesterday. >> yes. george conway related the same type of story where he and his wife were invited to dinner with jared and ivanka, and he said the president called to say are you watching this? so he clearly was -- this is -- it's exactly the same time frame. but i think vaughn has it exactly right, which is, thank you have the d.a. sort of bringing donald trump directly through direct evidence, it's not through michael cohen, you have a witness saying i spoke to him, this was his reaction. essentially what on god's green earth are you doing? why did you release her and why is she speaking and that explains why stormy daniels is not released, explains the difference, but also to vaughn's point he later denied it, you can be sure in this trial we're going to see that false statement. when you're a prosecutor trying to get mental state evidence, there's nothing better than oh,
, and this was not just a stormy daniels-michael cohen agreement. >> andrew? >> this reminds me, you, me and vaughn feels like four years ago, i think two days ago -- >> 17 years ago, aka yesterday. >> yes. george conway related the same type of story where he and his wife were invited to dinner with jared and ivanka, and he said the president called to say are you watching this? so he clearly was -- this is -- it's exactly the same time frame. but i think vaughn has it...
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he moves on to stephanie clifforded, also known as stormy daniels. he talks about donald trump needing stormy daniels in 2006, how they talked about the apprentice at the time and the possibility of her becoming a contestant on the apprentice. stormy daniels dined off of that story for years now, writing a book, doing a documentary as well. and then he says, and i quote, i'm going to say something else about her testimony, and this is important. it does not matter. her testimony while salacious does not matter, and then he goes on to talk about the catch does not matter. then he talks about the catch and kill scheme. he reminds the jury the president hasn't been charged. he says catch and kill to purchase the rights is not against the law. he says i quote i encourage you to listen over the next couple of days when you hear mr. pecker testify. catch and kill is not against the law. todd blanche has wrapped up in fact his opening statements, guys. as we move on to see if we're going to hear from the first witness, david pecker. >> opening statement, 35
he moves on to stephanie clifforded, also known as stormy daniels. he talks about donald trump needing stormy daniels in 2006, how they talked about the apprentice at the time and the possibility of her becoming a contestant on the apprentice. stormy daniels dined off of that story for years now, writing a book, doing a documentary as well. and then he says, and i quote, i'm going to say something else about her testimony, and this is important. it does not matter. her testimony while salacious...
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you're going to see the story change when it comes to stormy daniels as to how it has been paid. a foundation being laid out, pecker asked how would it be paid, he was told it would be paid by the big guy, but then enter michael cohen, and he's paying it and there is not the reimbursement and that's how you get to the falsification of the business records because, of course, at that point, donald trump was a federal candidate for office. and that's when you get into the campaign finance violations. so, some of the minutia or the details that are coming out now may not make sense, but once the story is put all together, it will form according to the prosecutors the basis of the crimes for which donald trump is charged. >> and, vaughn, michael cohen's name has already been brought up quite a bit during the questioning so far. what is that about? >> right. to the point about this being a sustained effort here and one that ultimately the defense will make sense of here in a key as if eliminate of that is michael cohen's credibility and one example that was brought up here in the last
you're going to see the story change when it comes to stormy daniels as to how it has been paid. a foundation being laid out, pecker asked how would it be paid, he was told it would be paid by the big guy, but then enter michael cohen, and he's paying it and there is not the reimbursement and that's how you get to the falsification of the business records because, of course, at that point, donald trump was a federal candidate for office. and that's when you get into the campaign finance...
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the catch and kill, stormy daniels really did have this relationship. the bankers on the stand talking about the mechanics of the payment, this and that. there is the common metaphor that prosecutors use as they are building a case brick by brick. they want a wall of evidence at the end. they are dropping picks. pieces of evidence in isolation may not seem that fascinating to us but they are building a wall. whether that leads up to conviction remains to be seen. but, you know, it is hard for me to render any serious verdict on this week because they haven't really got to the main event yet, which is not just michael cohen, whenever he testifies, but also needs to be, there's going to need to be some evidence, ideally, that trump himself was aware the way the payments were booked may have been unlawful. it's not going to be enough to say, the hush money payment is not illegal by itself, nor are all the machinations that michael cohen went through to pay her. what is illegal, what is allegedly illegal is how the payments were booked in the trump organiza
the catch and kill, stormy daniels really did have this relationship. the bankers on the stand talking about the mechanics of the payment, this and that. there is the common metaphor that prosecutors use as they are building a case brick by brick. they want a wall of evidence at the end. they are dropping picks. pieces of evidence in isolation may not seem that fascinating to us but they are building a wall. whether that leads up to conviction remains to be seen. but, you know, it is hard for...
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the stormy daniels story. so this afternoon effectively the prosecutions was able to lay out to the jury that david pecker, despite all of the testimony around questions and whether this is normal or not, the prosecution agreement, all that aside, the crux of this is that donald trump. ed to keep these stories silent because of the 2016 election. >> vaughn, after pecker finished, they called rona graph. >> reporter: she was able to authenticate physical address, but the phone numbers she had cataloged for karen mcdougal, but also she had a contact under, quote, stormy, with a phone number. she testified she could make stormy daniels had visited trump tower. and that there was chatter that she could potentially be a celebrity apprentice herself, which matches up with storm yes daniels' statements that donald trump the night that they had sex told her that he would follow about her potential thely appearing on "celebrity apprentice." gary farro was the banker that worked with michael cohen, who is currently on t
the stormy daniels story. so this afternoon effectively the prosecutions was able to lay out to the jury that david pecker, despite all of the testimony around questions and whether this is normal or not, the prosecution agreement, all that aside, the crux of this is that donald trump. ed to keep these stories silent because of the 2016 election. >> vaughn, after pecker finished, they called rona graph. >> reporter: she was able to authenticate physical address, but the phone...
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led to the scheme to cook the books to hide the secret payments to stormy daniels, and that the hiding showed he knew he was up to no good. they say that violated the key new york state election law. i'm going read this to you. it's become more and more important. if you watched our "the beat" coverage, we've reported on the road leading to. this it's not until this week that the prosecutors and the d.a.'s office went beyond the general indictment to show exactly what they mean. any two or more persons who conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to public office by ununlawful means. this is the way the d.a. wants to make it a felony. i mentioned there are other avenues, like tax law. this is the main one. prosecutors say they can prove those unlawful means to distort the election with very clear evidence. now in a trial there is generally two types of evidence. the star witnesses like we started to hear from, that's testimonial evidence. and all the other stuff, what they call hard evidence, receipts, paper, records, all of that is the goods. the d.a. in this opening
led to the scheme to cook the books to hide the secret payments to stormy daniels, and that the hiding showed he knew he was up to no good. they say that violated the key new york state election law. i'm going read this to you. it's become more and more important. if you watched our "the beat" coverage, we've reported on the road leading to. this it's not until this week that the prosecutors and the d.a.'s office went beyond the general indictment to show exactly what they mean. any...
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and helping facilitate the payment from cohen to daniels. seeking to undercut the testimony of david pecker, the former publisher of the national enquirer and key witness. testifying about how he helped silence people who could have hurt his election charges. mr. trump's lawyers sought to raise questions about motives. at one point saying, i've been truthful to the best of my recollection. also undermining the idea mr. trump wanted to bury those stories to protect his family, a common refrain from the stance. instead, he believed it was all to protect his campaign. >> i have to wish her a happy birthday. she's in florida. >> miliania trump, absent. the former president needs to be in court on tuesday, thursday, and friday of next week. wednesday, he will be using that time to campaign in the battleground states of wisconsin and michigan. alex? >> okay, dasha burns. thank you for that. he is the former assistant deputy general. host of the podcast talking fits. thank you very much for that. also, our good friend timothy havey, former prosecut
and helping facilitate the payment from cohen to daniels. seeking to undercut the testimony of david pecker, the former publisher of the national enquirer and key witness. testifying about how he helped silence people who could have hurt his election charges. mr. trump's lawyers sought to raise questions about motives. at one point saying, i've been truthful to the best of my recollection. also undermining the idea mr. trump wanted to bury those stories to protect his family, a common refrain...
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david pecker said today he believed trump or his company pay daniels until michael cohen told him in december of 2016 that he was the one who paid her. prosecutors are seeking to prove that mr. trump doctored internal business records to cover up that payment. david pecker testified that trump was aghast when he saw stormy daniels on 60 minutes. >> was it hush money? >> yes. >> david pecker said trump called him and said, we have an agreement with stormy daniels, that she can't mention my name. trump denied knowledge of the arrangement, the cross- examination, trump's lawyers challenged david credibility in business practices. at a campaign event, trump addressed the testimony of his longtime friend. >> david is a nice guy. >> what do we know about the payment to stormy daniels? >> reporter: david pecker testified about a payment his company did make to former playboy model, karen mcdougal, to keep her affair with trump quiet. packer said he coordinated with colin, because they concerned -- worried that paying mcdougall could violate campaign finance laws so they worked out a deal, a
david pecker said today he believed trump or his company pay daniels until michael cohen told him in december of 2016 that he was the one who paid her. prosecutors are seeking to prove that mr. trump doctored internal business records to cover up that payment. david pecker testified that trump was aghast when he saw stormy daniels on 60 minutes. >> was it hush money? >> yes. >> david pecker said trump called him and said, we have an agreement with stormy daniels, that she...
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he said we have an agreement with stormy daniels that she cannot mention my name. trump later denied knowledge of the arrangement. on cross-examination, mr. trump's lawyers challenging credibility and business practice. at a campaign event earlier in the day mr. trump addressed the testimony of his longtime friend. >> david has been a nice guy. >> did you know about the payment to stormy daniels before the 2020 election? >> reporter: pecker also testified today about the payment his company did make the former playboy model karen mcdougal to keep her alleged affair with mr. trump quiet. pecker said he coordinated with cohen because he was concerned paying mcdougal could violate campaign finance law. so they worked up an agreement to pay for contributions to magazines owned by american media, adding he believed trump was aware of the payment. the prosecution asking pecker was your principal purpose to suppress her story so as not to influence the election? pecker responding yes, it was. >> and we have peter baker and joy spent still with us. joyce, i wanted to start
he said we have an agreement with stormy daniels that she cannot mention my name. trump later denied knowledge of the arrangement. on cross-examination, mr. trump's lawyers challenging credibility and business practice. at a campaign event earlier in the day mr. trump addressed the testimony of his longtime friend. >> david has been a nice guy. >> did you know about the payment to stormy daniels before the 2020 election? >> reporter: pecker also testified today about the...
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the contact information for stormy daniels and karen mcdougal. why is that on the trump organization database? that will come into play later. we are starting to see the custodial records behind this byzantine way of funneling $130,000 in hush money to stormy daniels through a shell company and a lawyer and we are getting into the weeds on that and that is the jurors last impression. >> the issue with a story like this is that there is no question that it is very unusual how this $130,000 was handled, how these things happen, and some of that in itself is a violation of the way books have to be kept and records have to be kept. what is the challenge for the prosecution? they will probably be able to demonstrate that effectively, but ultimately having the jurors believe that this was in fact in furtherance of a different thing and that was to conceal something from voters that might have made them make a different decision. how difficult is that? >> you put your finger right on it. as the week started there were two dramatic competing visions in t
the contact information for stormy daniels and karen mcdougal. why is that on the trump organization database? that will come into play later. we are starting to see the custodial records behind this byzantine way of funneling $130,000 in hush money to stormy daniels through a shell company and a lawyer and we are getting into the weeds on that and that is the jurors last impression. >> the issue with a story like this is that there is no question that it is very unusual how this $130,000...
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trump's old microsoft contacts list, showing injuries -- showing injuries for stormy daniels and karen mcdougal, complete with phone numbers. when trump's lawyers get the chance to cross-examine rhona graff, they really didn't rebut what the prosecution had established, which was that donald trump was in contact with stormy daniels and karen mcdougal. instead the defense was quick to offer multiple reasons as to why trump might have been in contact with the two women. reasons, by the way, that have nothing to do with having an affair. for example they ask of trumpet been considering stormy daniels as a potential contestant on the celebrity apprentice, to which graff replied, it was part of the office chatter. it is worth remembering, donald trump is not on trial for cheating on his wife. trump's lawyers do not have to convince the jury that trump was just friends or whatever with stormy daniels and karen mcdougal because having an affair with an adult film actress or playboy model is not illegal. but donald trump himself still publicly denies that those affairs took place, even though
trump's old microsoft contacts list, showing injuries -- showing injuries for stormy daniels and karen mcdougal, complete with phone numbers. when trump's lawyers get the chance to cross-examine rhona graff, they really didn't rebut what the prosecution had established, which was that donald trump was in contact with stormy daniels and karen mcdougal. instead the defense was quick to offer multiple reasons as to why trump might have been in contact with the two women. reasons, by the way, that...
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in the waiting room, and they weren't able to get out of why stormy daniels was there. they're asking her part of your job duties were to work with the producers of "the apprentice." she says trump was relatively hands on, her words, with the show, which she says elevated him from being a businessman to a near rock star status. hoffinger objects. graff clarifies that "the apprentice" involved regular people. trump got involved once the celebrity apprentice began, which would be around 2007. he talked about who would make a good contestant. according to our reporter in the room, some more than others. there's in a side war right now. what does it mean to get all of this "apprentice" stuff out of rhona graff. >> how is this relevant to the trial. it seems far afield. it's showing he's active, busy, running a company, maybe not involved in the day-to-day record keeping, but instead at a higher level. >> we're going to take a quick break. we're going to talk about wht else happened today. david pecker was on the stand, a lot of redirect. our coverage of donald trump's hush
in the waiting room, and they weren't able to get out of why stormy daniels was there. they're asking her part of your job duties were to work with the producers of "the apprentice." she says trump was relatively hands on, her words, with the show, which she says elevated him from being a businessman to a near rock star status. hoffinger objects. graff clarifies that "the apprentice" involved regular people. trump got involved once the celebrity apprentice began, which would...
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you've got michael cohen, stormy daniels. their testimony doesn't matter because you can't focus on your client, so you've got to focus on dismantling their case. >> charles, how common is it to have two lawyers on a jury like this? >> not common at all. >> so it raised a question for me, because one of the things we've talked about in the days leading up to this is how, once they have the jury, they try to target and refine their opening statement, right? do the two lawyers view this very differently, catherine christian, likely than the other jurors? >> they don't appear to be trial lawyers, so it's very different. i heard someone write they've heard this instruction lots of times. most lawyers aren't trial lawyers. if they're trial lawyers, yes, they're used to objection and sustained. if they've never set foot in the courtroom, they're lawyers. i have a bias, i would never put a lawyer on a jury unless that's all i'm left with. i'm afraid they're thinking too much because that's what lawyers do, and they're second-guessin
you've got michael cohen, stormy daniels. their testimony doesn't matter because you can't focus on your client, so you've got to focus on dismantling their case. >> charles, how common is it to have two lawyers on a jury like this? >> not common at all. >> so it raised a question for me, because one of the things we've talked about in the days leading up to this is how, once they have the jury, they try to target and refine their opening statement, right? do the two lawyers...
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pecker helped him do that, not just with stormy daniels but also with karen mcdougal. you start these tales in the beginning, josÉ, and the beginning here was the attempt to kill the story. then you had to pay to kill the story, and once you paid to kill the story you had to reflect the payments on your books, and when you reflected them in a fraudulent matter, you committed a crime, and when you committed that crime with the goal of committing another crime, that misdemeanor became a felony. where do you start when you are a prosecute? at the beginning. that's what mr. pecker is, the beginning. >> i remember when we just started covering this part of trump's many different legal crisis, there was a question about how strong this case was because of the differences and the mismeaner to felony county, one, whether time had passed -- what is it you, as a prosecution today, are starting to establish on that issue, the difficulties or maybe the weakest parts? >> i still think it's not necessarily a straightforward case as some of the others. it had challenges in terms of
pecker helped him do that, not just with stormy daniels but also with karen mcdougal. you start these tales in the beginning, josÉ, and the beginning here was the attempt to kill the story. then you had to pay to kill the story, and once you paid to kill the story you had to reflect the payments on your books, and when you reflected them in a fraudulent matter, you committed a crime, and when you committed that crime with the goal of committing another crime, that misdemeanor became a felony....
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so up you have stormy daniels, you have karen mcdougal. we saw of key players. the women who were involved and the details could be even more revealing in terms of trump's actual involvement. we hear that the defense will site stormy daniels does not know anything about what went wrong in terms of the business records, but stormy daniels will still be relying kind of her interactions with the former president and i think that will be very uncomfortable for trump as he continues to have to sit through weeks of these cases and these stories that are being laid out for the jury to hear. >> let's discuss the supreme court hearing arguments on thursday on trump's claims of presidential immunity. it appears some justices believe at least some immunity is necessary. to the questions indicate to you how they are likely to rule? >> alex, they did and the indicated that to me indirectly because of some of the things we heard the justices say. is not related to the issue before them, but i thought it was amazing that justice alito actually said, isn't it true that the gran
so up you have stormy daniels, you have karen mcdougal. we saw of key players. the women who were involved and the details could be even more revealing in terms of trump's actual involvement. we hear that the defense will site stormy daniels does not know anything about what went wrong in terms of the business records, but stormy daniels will still be relying kind of her interactions with the former president and i think that will be very uncomfortable for trump as he continues to have to sit...
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david pecker describes the secret meeting to catch and kill stories from karen mcdougal and stormy daniels before they could sink donald trump's presidential campaign. now, that is not illegal. so, how does testimony from pecker help the prosecution prove that trump committed a crime? >>> plus, trump's attorney tieing himself in rhetorical knots, trying to defend trump's social media posts and convince the judge trump has not violated his gag order. todd blanche saying the president is being very careful and the frustrating judge responding, quote, you're losing all credibility with this court. why is he waiting to rule? >>> and taking its toll, with reporters observing trump as looking thinner and older, against many parts of today's proceedings with his eyes closed and venting his frustration on social media, what will be the impact on this trial and the race for president? we have got more on that coming up. >>> but we start with former national enquirer ceo david pecker back on the stand right now. one of the few men in the room with donald trump when the prosecution says the conspirac
david pecker describes the secret meeting to catch and kill stories from karen mcdougal and stormy daniels before they could sink donald trump's presidential campaign. now, that is not illegal. so, how does testimony from pecker help the prosecution prove that trump committed a crime? >>> plus, trump's attorney tieing himself in rhetorical knots, trying to defend trump's social media posts and convince the judge trump has not violated his gag order. todd blanche saying the president is...
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january of 2018 is when folks first became familiar with stormy daniels payment. karen mcdougal did a sit down interview with anderson cooper. after that interview aired, donald trump angrily called up david pecker about how this happened. because he thought that ami had an agreement with karen mcdougal for her not to be able to share her story anywhere outside of the "national enquirer" and its other entities, and that's when david pecker informed him that, look, a couple of months ago we had conversations about karen mcdougal's contract, that initially it was just six months, and there was talk that included even hope hicks and sarah huckabee sanders, because this was during the white house years about whether to extend karen mcdougal's contract. trump at one point, david pecker reminded him, donald trump according to pecker told him it's your business, and at that point, he lets the contract run out. so what did karen mcdougal do? she went and did a sit-down interview with anderson cooper. at that point in time, that is when stormy daniels came into the picture
january of 2018 is when folks first became familiar with stormy daniels payment. karen mcdougal did a sit down interview with anderson cooper. after that interview aired, donald trump angrily called up david pecker about how this happened. because he thought that ami had an agreement with karen mcdougal for her not to be able to share her story anywhere outside of the "national enquirer" and its other entities, and that's when david pecker informed him that, look, a couple of months...
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he didn't sleep with stormy daniels. he took out the risk, took a risk of his own self, everything he did he did for trump. he did go to prison. in this case, is there some chance that walt nauta and the other fall guys in the case will go to prison and let trump skate? >> they may go to prison but i don't think trump is going to skate. >> if the case ever goes to trial. >> if it goes to trial, that's right. i think the government is in a weird position right now because right now, they know that the judge is backed off those crazy jury instructions that she asked them to do. which really the most bizarre thing i have ever seen. and they're kind of betwixted and between as to whether or not to take her up on appeal. >> let me ask you about today's michael cohen hearing. you were saying there are things in that transcript that people have not really highlighted. tell me one of those things. >> everybody now has access to these transcripts. they all went up on the -- >> in the new york hush money election interference case
he didn't sleep with stormy daniels. he took out the risk, took a risk of his own self, everything he did he did for trump. he did go to prison. in this case, is there some chance that walt nauta and the other fall guys in the case will go to prison and let trump skate? >> they may go to prison but i don't think trump is going to skate. >> if the case ever goes to trial. >> if it goes to trial, that's right. i think the government is in a weird position right now because right...
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we could anticipate the daniels case. >> back on the stand thursday. thank you. let's talk about the big meeting that donald trump has planned tonight. dasha burns is following that story for us. trump is scheduled to meet with the former prime minister of japan. he is still a key member of the ruling party. so what's in it for both sides? >> this is part of a series of meetings with foreign leaders he's been taking over the last couple of weeks. last week, he met with the president of poland. the week before, he met with the british foreign secretary, david cameron. this is an attempt, while he is in court, to show that look, he is still doing this kind of work and foreign leaders are reaching out to him. he's in conversation with them. one thing you'll hear often from the former president on the campaign trial and in interviews is that you know, the world was much more peaceful while he was in office. he's trying to present a contrast when it comes to foreign policy between himself and president biden. here's what he had to say in a radio interview yesterday. >
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the 34 counts go far beyond just the stormy daniels case. there was a catch and kill conspiracy here timed around the election. this is a much bigger story to be told. and i thus one of the other things that lisa noted that's hanging over this entire trial is ta we know donald trump has always had a dog whistle, but he has a dog whistle packed with dynamite. and every look he makes, those stern gazes she described as he left the courtroom, going person by person, that's not accidental. he's not excited to look each of those people in the eye because he wants to invite them to christmas. people are worried that every move in that courtroom is designed to potentially intimidate the aspects of the justice system that he believes are conspireing against him. that's really alarming and the judge is going to be walking a difficult tight rope this entire trial. >> just remind people what trump does to people that make him mad. >> let me take one step back. look at that dog whistle when he says there's an invasion, people go shoot up walmarts in tex
the 34 counts go far beyond just the stormy daniels case. there was a catch and kill conspiracy here timed around the election. this is a much bigger story to be told. and i thus one of the other things that lisa noted that's hanging over this entire trial is ta we know donald trump has always had a dog whistle, but he has a dog whistle packed with dynamite. and every look he makes, those stern gazes she described as he left the courtroom, going person by person, that's not accidental. he's not...
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it's not just a one-off with stormy daniels. it's the fact that this was a scheme that involved others. karen mcdougal is expected to testify, and the doorman they'll be hearing about who apparently had some information about donald trump that was false, but they paid him off, too. this is going to make it harder for donald trump to say, i know nothing, the whole sergeant schultz defense. you're part of the scheme. there's even a recording that michael cohen took secretly that shows trump knew about this, was part of this. it's not just some rogue accountant who did the falsification of business records, all part of this scheme that lasted a while and started way before stormy daniels. >> it's so interesting. amanda carpenter, there's so much going on in this trial, so much that's going to come out, lewd and lascivious behavior, details that perhaps donald trump would prefer not out there or not having to sit and listen to quietly in a chair in a courtroom. but beyond that, latisha james saying the money he posted in his fraught
it's not just a one-off with stormy daniels. it's the fact that this was a scheme that involved others. karen mcdougal is expected to testify, and the doorman they'll be hearing about who apparently had some information about donald trump that was false, but they paid him off, too. this is going to make it harder for donald trump to say, i know nothing, the whole sergeant schultz defense. you're part of the scheme. there's even a recording that michael cohen took secretly that shows trump knew...
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thank you to eugene daniels for sitting and for us today. we will see you back here tomorrow at 8:00 a.m. eastern. we will talk about president biden's re-election action -- efforts. just want to address the elephant in the room. >> i am the only guy in new york right now. apparently you are all there for some party. this is a much larger bottle than the one you had. let's just see how this works.
thank you to eugene daniels for sitting and for us today. we will see you back here tomorrow at 8:00 a.m. eastern. we will talk about president biden's re-election action -- efforts. just want to address the elephant in the room. >> i am the only guy in new york right now. apparently you are all there for some party. this is a much larger bottle than the one you had. let's just see how this works.
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it's more than stormy daniels. it's about election interference. you know, if he gets back into the white house and he says putin, you can do what you want, berlin is six hn miles from the ukrainian boarder. that's shorter than north carolina, charlotte from here. that's really scary. >> that's something katty talks about on the show a lot. we're going give katty the last word on the other side of a very short break. don't go anywhere. t break. don't go anywhere. to a child, this is what conflict looks like. children in ukraine are caught in the crossfire of war, forced to flee their homes. a steady stream of refugees has been coming across all day. it's basically cold. lacking clean water and sanitation. exposed to injury, hunger. exhausted and shell shocked from what they've been through. every dollar you give can help bring a meal, a blanket, or simply hope to a child living in conflict. please call or go online to givenowtosave.org today with your gift of $10 a month, that's just $0.33 a day. we cannot forget the children in p
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you actually don't have to sort of hold stormy daniels in the highest of regard. you may feel like she has ulterior motives, but david pecker who knows donald trump the best have said these things and given us such a framework that is going to be corroborated and it helps them to a very big degree. and the other thing they if well today with pecker's testimony, is that they took away the notion of donald trump being removed. not only in terms of him being a micro manager as a business owner but placing him in conversations very specific about how these things would run. and to act as if you have no knowledge of this things is untenable. you can't maintain that from front of the jury so that was anective day by the prosecution and in terms of setting themselves up, with the witnesses they know are going to have some degree of challenges on the stand, they did a fantastic job. >> i was just thinking, because there was a discussion at the beginning of the trial about exactly how much of this relationship between david pecker and donald trump would be allowed in. and
you actually don't have to sort of hold stormy daniels in the highest of regard. you may feel like she has ulterior motives, but david pecker who knows donald trump the best have said these things and given us such a framework that is going to be corroborated and it helps them to a very big degree. and the other thing they if well today with pecker's testimony, is that they took away the notion of donald trump being removed. not only in terms of him being a micro manager as a business owner but...
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she also said that she saw daniels in the trump tower reception area, all this in just two weeks of the trial. tara and dave join me again. quite the testimony there, from pecker. you had trump's attorney trying to pierce his credibility, making the case whether the former editor published these salacious stories about celebrities purchased them for future leverage he did so purely to improve his company's bottom line. is that something that stands in court? >> i think that pecker was a pretty strong witness. and given his intimate knowledge of how everything worked, and his relationship with donald trump over the years he came across as credible. i don't think donald trump's defense team really made a dent in his testimony. and by the time they get to closing arguments i think the highlights of testimony will be what the jurors remember. and, the fact that he was such a strong prosecution witness, pretty calm and collected going to the whole thing on the witness stand. he was pretty unflappable. you know, it's interesting to watch how donald trump is reacting to this. that was his frie
she also said that she saw daniels in the trump tower reception area, all this in just two weeks of the trial. tara and dave join me again. quite the testimony there, from pecker. you had trump's attorney trying to pierce his credibility, making the case whether the former editor published these salacious stories about celebrities purchased them for future leverage he did so purely to improve his company's bottom line. is that something that stands in court? >> i think that pecker was a...
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so does stormy daniels. they need him, so critical. to underestimate him and take him down i think you start with that immunity issue. >> do you feel -- if you're trump and his team, there's three people involved in this conspiracy. one of them is michael cohen, witness to theis prosecution. one of them is dave pecker who's just taken the stand and very favorable to the prosecution. where does that leave donald trump? do you think that puts pressure on him to take the stand, or is it too far-fetched to imagine f in. >> i think it's arunlikely he'l testify for so many reasons not least of which the cross-examination is going to be brutal, but oneis of the things the prosecution is going to have to prove is that donald trump knew what he was going to do he was breaking the law. there's a knowledge element here. it has to be done with the the intent to break the law. one way he could do that by show and testifying i didn't know these entries were being made. i didn't know i was doing this with the the intent to violate the federal electio
so does stormy daniels. they need him, so critical. to underestimate him and take him down i think you start with that immunity issue. >> do you feel -- if you're trump and his team, there's three people involved in this conspiracy. one of them is michael cohen, witness to theis prosecution. one of them is dave pecker who's just taken the stand and very favorable to the prosecution. where does that leave donald trump? do you think that puts pressure on him to take the stand, or is it too...
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but also when he reposted others' posts about individuals like the jurors or stormy daniels or michael cohen, whether donald trump was in fact standing by those statements or endorsing them or approving of them. and that is where the judge was very specific in his frustrations with todd blanche, and so we could very well learn by day's end whether donald trump has violated and whether there's a fine or whether judge merchan as the prosecution would like, whether he will warn donald trump if he were to violate the gag order in the future he could potentially be put in jail through these proceedings. >> protecting jurors is a top priority. the judge has made that clear. what is your take on mr. trump's comments last night about the jury on that radio show? >> well, if you put together the comments, the ones last night as well as the ten others that are alleged by the d.a., and the arguments today where todd blanche tried to articulate some sort of defense, it's very clear that the judge is going to find at least one if not multiple violations of the gag order. it should be pointed out th
but also when he reposted others' posts about individuals like the jurors or stormy daniels or michael cohen, whether donald trump was in fact standing by those statements or endorsing them or approving of them. and that is where the judge was very specific in his frustrations with todd blanche, and so we could very well learn by day's end whether donald trump has violated and whether there's a fine or whether judge merchan as the prosecution would like, whether he will warn donald trump if he...
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we know stormy daniels was in trump tower. does that contribute to potentially jurors views of him or reinforcing something they thought they could put aside? >> it adds more color to the story and to the narrative. it's by itself not that big of a fact, again, it kind of gets into the common sense connective tissue i was talking about earlier, when each juror is constructing their narrative of the case, this is a little detail that could end up being one of the sort of bricks in that foundation. >> again, did you see stormy in the reception area? a vague recollection, but yes, she knew that he was. go ahead. >> it goes to show you, despite what you're hearing all the time, this is not only about michael cohen. it's not about his agenda. it's not about his anger. it's about a case, and you have a person here, a person here, evidence here, this is just part of that puzzle, and that's why the prosecution has to do this now. >> at the end of week one, the puzzle is coming together. pieces are in place. thank you. that's going to
we know stormy daniels was in trump tower. does that contribute to potentially jurors views of him or reinforcing something they thought they could put aside? >> it adds more color to the story and to the narrative. it's by itself not that big of a fact, again, it kind of gets into the common sense connective tissue i was talking about earlier, when each juror is constructing their narrative of the case, this is a little detail that could end up being one of the sort of bricks in that...
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this is not a one-off payment to stormy daniels, but a scheme to prevent things being said. karen mcdougal is expected to testify. a doorman apparently had information that turned out to be false about trump's love child. i think it's damaging for the former president who's going to use the sergeant schultz defense, i know nothing. >> you look at how the prosecutors are going to paint a picture after the "access hollywood" case comes out. i was covering him at that point. people were freaking out. they thought it was over for trump. they didn't want it to get any worse. >>> i have one legal moment. looking ahead later this week to thursday, there's a case with big implications in the supreme court. they'll take up trump's immunity claims. litz cheney is out with a new op-ed this morning, do this quickly. why does speed matter here? >> it matters because the case that poses the greatest existential threat to donald trump's freedom is the d.c. election interference case in front of judge chutkan who wants this case to go, but she can't let it go until the supreme court finishe
this is not a one-off payment to stormy daniels, but a scheme to prevent things being said. karen mcdougal is expected to testify. a doorman apparently had information that turned out to be false about trump's love child. i think it's damaging for the former president who's going to use the sergeant schultz defense, i know nothing. >> you look at how the prosecutors are going to paint a picture after the "access hollywood" case comes out. i was covering him at that point. people...
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trump's on request. " then, rhona graff testified under subpoena, saying she remembered seeing stormy daniels in the trump tower lobby, and adding her contact info to the trump organization database. when court reconvenes, tuesday morning, there will be more testimony from the banker, who helped michael cohen pay off stormy daniels. now, here's some food for thought. as we hurtle into week two of trump's hush money election interference trial. if the supreme court rules as expected in the immunity case the case brought by district attorney alvin bragg could be trump's first and last criminal trial before the election. joining me now from a former federal prosecutor, legal affairs columnist for politico magazine. msnbc justice and legal affairs analyst, anthony coley, director of the justice department office of public affairs and adviser to attorney general merrick garland . renato, have they made it clear this is also about election interference and not just covering up an affair? >> they made that front and center in their opening statement. they are trying to make that case throughout this
trump's on request. " then, rhona graff testified under subpoena, saying she remembered seeing stormy daniels in the trump tower lobby, and adding her contact info to the trump organization database. when court reconvenes, tuesday morning, there will be more testimony from the banker, who helped michael cohen pay off stormy daniels. now, here's some food for thought. as we hurtle into week two of trump's hush money election interference trial. if the supreme court rules as expected in the...
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an arm of the campaign, meaning that it -- they were phoned in by: himself karen mcdougal and stormy daniels, they got money from different places but it all went back according to the delay to the original campaign motivation.told on and for how he tried to hide their contacts back in the day by using some secret messaging app. it did not work him obviously. the da also showed how they knew it was wrong, that got nervous when election regulators started to probe and cohen saidhad him over the department of justice . they say that as to the evidence that team knew they had criminal exposure from this and their thinking was not, we did not do a crime. her thinking was, oh, our appointees will protect us. we have them in our pocket. i do not know if jeff sessions would fit in there, but it is an analogy. but they did not shield michael cohen. he was convicted and imprisoned by the very independent prosecutors who are federal prosecutors during the -era. over the week, the prosecution turned into rhona graff, who appears to be a better turns -- terms on him. the defendant and his company are st
an arm of the campaign, meaning that it -- they were phoned in by: himself karen mcdougal and stormy daniels, they got money from different places but it all went back according to the delay to the original campaign motivation.told on and for how he tried to hide their contacts back in the day by using some secret messaging app. it did not work him obviously. the da also showed how they knew it was wrong, that got nervous when election regulators started to probe and cohen saidhad him over the...
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with donald trump, we're going to find out what the national enquirer's role was in that and stormy daniels. i want to talk about the cross for a minute. i think it could be -- david pecker has been an effective witness so far, very good storyteller. but ultimately he's up on the stand saying he lies a lot. he's the king. kind of the king of fake news with donald trump. so i think that that is going to work against him. and the other thing is i don't think that -- i think the prosecution, they're going to zero -- the donald trump's lawyers are going to zero in, he had nothing to do with the payment scheme. that's what we're going to see as we roll through this week. >> sue craig, we'll continue our conversation going forward. thank you so much. great to see you in person. appreciate it. >>> as we have been talking about the trial that is going to resume tomorrow, donald trump will be in that new york courtroom tomorrow, some of his lawyers will be arguing before the u.s. supreme court on whether a former president is immune from prosecution for official acts. prosecutors say the founding fa
with donald trump, we're going to find out what the national enquirer's role was in that and stormy daniels. i want to talk about the cross for a minute. i think it could be -- david pecker has been an effective witness so far, very good storyteller. but ultimately he's up on the stand saying he lies a lot. he's the king. kind of the king of fake news with donald trump. so i think that that is going to work against him. and the other thing is i don't think that -- i think the prosecution,...
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we haven't got to the stormy daniels stuff yet. what are you looking for out of what we have, two more days this week? what are you looking for? >> i said david pecker may have emerged as the people's star witness. we had a lot of focus on someone like michael cohen, but david pecker is better for the people for a number of reasons. number one, he has some credibility issues, but not the credibility issues of a michael cohen. number two, he starts at the beginning. prosecutors love to take you through a chronological, in the beginning, this was this relationship. by showing this relationship, where david pecker had communication with michael cohen, and i think this is critical, and they've already shown the communication with michael cohen went from once a month to once a quarter and escalated. what did it escalate corresponding to? the upcoming election. that is going to be key to demonstraing that this was not a bunch of hush money payments to protect my family or reputation with my wife. this was to influence the campaign. that
we haven't got to the stormy daniels stuff yet. what are you looking for out of what we have, two more days this week? what are you looking for? >> i said david pecker may have emerged as the people's star witness. we had a lot of focus on someone like michael cohen, but david pecker is better for the people for a number of reasons. number one, he has some credibility issues, but not the credibility issues of a michael cohen. number two, he starts at the beginning. prosecutors love to...
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that, do you really pay all this money that trump was willing to pay both karen mcdougal and stormy daniels. that hasn't been the practice in other cases. and mr. pecker's key concession both on direct and now in response to the redirect was that trump knew that this was about the campaign. that's what alvin bragg has to prove and i think on that point he's proving it. >> so this, tristan is exactly why i was surprised to hear, we're following our blog, other blogs from people who are in the room. they talk about jurors being rapt. they are leaning in. they are taking copious notes. a lot of this is testimony is pretty inside baseball. who's doing a better job here? from your reading of it? >> yeah, look, i think they're both doing a pretty good job, but i think the prosecution is scoring more points right now. when the jury is leaning in, and they're paying attention, look, a lot of this is inside baseball, but a lot of this is pretty direct and clear. like, what was the purpose of all of this. i think that there's a certain amount of common sense here that i think the jurors are going to
that, do you really pay all this money that trump was willing to pay both karen mcdougal and stormy daniels. that hasn't been the practice in other cases. and mr. pecker's key concession both on direct and now in response to the redirect was that trump knew that this was about the campaign. that's what alvin bragg has to prove and i think on that point he's proving it. >> so this, tristan is exactly why i was surprised to hear, we're following our blog, other blogs from people who are in...
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targeting cohen and stormy daniels. the state seeking to hold mr. trump in contempt. >> so they can talk about me, they can lie, but i'm not allowed to say anything. >> reporter: in court the defense arguing that mr. trump should be permitted to respond to political attacks and the gag order should not cover reposts of someone else, the judge didn't rule -- telling lead defense attorney todd blanche you're losing all credibility with the court. minutes later during a break, donald trump back on truth social falsely writing that the judge had taken away his right to free speech. >> nbc's laura jarrett reporting for us there. let's bring in andrew weissman and charles coleman. andrew, the first part of the day was the hearing on the gag order, whether or not donald trump violated the gag order, the d.a.'s office said he's done so ten times. the second part of it is the ongoing testimony of david pecker. let's start with the gag order, did the d.a.'s office, did the prosecution make a compelling case in your eyes that donald trump has violated that gag
targeting cohen and stormy daniels. the state seeking to hold mr. trump in contempt. >> so they can talk about me, they can lie, but i'm not allowed to say anything. >> reporter: in court the defense arguing that mr. trump should be permitted to respond to political attacks and the gag order should not cover reposts of someone else, the judge didn't rule -- telling lead defense attorney todd blanche you're losing all credibility with the court. minutes later during a break, donald...