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wade. and then she goes on to say, god, isn't it them playing the race card when they only question one. now, if she had been truthful with that congregation, truthful with the community, she would have said, i had a relationship with him. good, bad, forgive me, whatever, that's what she should have said. but she chose to deflect and say them, the reference to them and the others and they. it's obviously a reference to the motion filed by ms. merchan. they choose to go after the black man. and she then goes on, again, deflecting away, and deflecting to the -- what i call the third rail in american society. accusing somebody on the other side of being a racist. so and so is a racist. they're racist. she was the one playing the race card in a way to deflect from her own conduct. she goes on to say in her discussions with the lord. god, is it that some will never see a black man as qualified no matter his achievements, again, the deflection. what is she saying? the listener is not necessarily
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wade was hired. they chose not to, and in that sense, that dishonesty, that constitutes a violation of their ethical responsibilities this is not signing an indictment. this is not filing a pleading in which both sides have their own positions. this is a requirement that every witness has to tell the truth under oath, and if they don't tell the truth under oath or there's a significant concern about their credibility, then they're violating their ethical rules, and as anyone will tell you, as your honor already knew from when you were a prosecutor, prosecutors are held to a higher standard. they're the ones that are supposed to be seeking justice. they don't have a particular -- they're supposed to be disinterested. when you have the lead prosecutor and the d.a. giving what i suggest to you is untruthful testimony based on what yeartie has said, based on what bradley said in his texts. based on the whole way it was presented to you, bradley didn't want to testify. he first came up with his attorney/c
wade was hired. they chose not to, and in that sense, that dishonesty, that constitutes a violation of their ethical responsibilities this is not signing an indictment. this is not filing a pleading in which both sides have their own positions. this is a requirement that every witness has to tell the truth under oath, and if they don't tell the truth under oath or there's a significant concern about their credibility, then they're violating their ethical rules, and as anyone will tell you, as...
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because nathan wade, as we all now know is in the middle of a divorce. in the course of that divorce he was asked questions in writing, called interrogatories, one of those questions is, did you, during any point of your marriage, have a relationship with someone else? and he said no. when asked to justify that on the stand here, he basically said, well the marriage was over in my mind. that is what judge scott mcafee is referring to. he wasn't truthful in another case, having nothing to do with this one, but having some repercussions for this one, and because of that, that's why mcafee is saying the remedy for that appearance of impropriety is that either willis goes and her office with it, or wade goes, giving her the easy choice. >> so, we have a lot of the reasoning in this decision, it's more than 20 pages, danny, but we got a little bit more into judge mcafee's head in a brief interview he had yesterday with one of the local news stations there in georgia. take a listen. >> the message i always want to convey is that ruling of mind is ever based on
because nathan wade, as we all now know is in the middle of a divorce. in the course of that divorce he was asked questions in writing, called interrogatories, one of those questions is, did you, during any point of your marriage, have a relationship with someone else? and he said no. when asked to justify that on the stand here, he basically said, well the marriage was over in my mind. that is what judge scott mcafee is referring to. he wasn't truthful in another case, having nothing to do...
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we expect nathan wade to withdraw. he was appointed by fani willis that was the crux of the problem. he was appointed by her. he can voluntarily withdraw. he can get off the case. but if you're fani willis you drown out the white noise because there's a lot of it right now. and you have to, i think, decide -- i suggested maybe you break down the case into buckets that are more quickly and easily triable. you then push for a status conference so the judge sets the case for trial. that's what's needed to happen in the case. the judge noted that fani willis has been pushing for a trial which helped decide there was no actual conflict of interest in this case. if you were getting a financial benefit in your relationship wouldn't you want to drag it out. >> wade, by the hour, money, that's the -- >> yeah. that you're sharing with willis, your girlfriend. so if i'm fani willis i say i've been opposing receive reps earlier trying to be done by the defense. let's group the defendants in a way that's easier to get to trial beca
we expect nathan wade to withdraw. he was appointed by fani willis that was the crux of the problem. he was appointed by her. he can voluntarily withdraw. he can get off the case. but if you're fani willis you drown out the white noise because there's a lot of it right now. and you have to, i think, decide -- i suggested maybe you break down the case into buckets that are more quickly and easily triable. you then push for a status conference so the judge sets the case for trial. that's what's...
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wade. the point of that line of questioning was to embarrass or harris the district attorney in a way that was very public, and in a way that was to impugn her character as it relates to that line of questioning in front of the court, in front of anyone watching the proceedings as it unfolded. and the language in whitworth, i would again submit to the court requires that an actual conflict must be shown. which is why the reference to speculation and conjecture is, again, referenced bauds because speculation and con , which is what is required based on the case law. so in state versus sutherland, 190 georgia appeals 606. a 1989 case. and it says while the prosecuting officers should see that no unfair advantage is taken of the accused, he is not a judicial officer. those who are required to exercise judicial functioning in the case are the judge and the public prosecutor is not necessarily a partisan in the case. if we were compelled to the same circumspection as the judge and jury, there wo
wade. the point of that line of questioning was to embarrass or harris the district attorney in a way that was very public, and in a way that was to impugn her character as it relates to that line of questioning in front of the court, in front of anyone watching the proceedings as it unfolded. and the language in whitworth, i would again submit to the court requires that an actual conflict must be shown. which is why the reference to speculation and conjecture is, again, referenced bauds...
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wade was more of the strategist and the coach so to speak of the team. so i don't think that it would be that difficult for one of those other members of the team to step up and play that role as strategist, as the one who is kind of determining the theory of the case, how the case is going to proceed and those strategic decisions that have to be made as far as the plea recommendations and the responses to the motion. so i think because this is such a deep team, i believe that his removal of the case will not further delay it from the prosecution's standpoint in getting the case ready. i don't think that it will cause them any reason to not stick with the district attorney's initial statement that whenever the judge wants to try the case within 30 days, they will be able to start picking a jury. i don't think that that will change based on mr. wade's removal. >> this is your former office, so what is your sense of how all of this has affected the reputation of that office and fani willis personally? >> well, i believe that since these allegations were so
wade was more of the strategist and the coach so to speak of the team. so i don't think that it would be that difficult for one of those other members of the team to step up and play that role as strategist, as the one who is kind of determining the theory of the case, how the case is going to proceed and those strategic decisions that have to be made as far as the plea recommendations and the responses to the motion. so i think because this is such a deep team, i believe that his removal of...
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and he also said that wade had a certain limit for his billable hours. any time he exceeded that limit, we have to get approval from her, and he never exceeded that limit. there was no approval ever given. so he was well within the norms of the office. any chance that she tries to go back to the former governor? >> she might, but i think he's made it clear he wants nothing to do with it. >> yes. >> you're right. >> i think, you know, it is possible, look, i don't think anybody thinks that nathan wade was the first choice here. the question is whether she can find somebody of similar stature to a roy barns, if not -- >> any chance this goes to trial before the election? >> no way. >> no way. >> ladies, thank you very much. good to have you. >>> and we're back in 60 seconds. former president trump on and off planes for his campaign. and for court. but what exactly is he going to stand trial, when is he exactly going to stand trial? we have an answer on the georgia case. what about the others? don't go anywhere. go anywhere. i know what it's like to perform
and he also said that wade had a certain limit for his billable hours. any time he exceeded that limit, we have to get approval from her, and he never exceeded that limit. there was no approval ever given. so he was well within the norms of the office. any chance that she tries to go back to the former governor? >> she might, but i think he's made it clear he wants nothing to do with it. >> yes. >> you're right. >> i think, you know, it is possible, look, i don't think...
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willis. >> nathan wade. >> nathan wade. >> but, push it to that side. seems to me these are two totally separate things. >> yes. >> so i really don't understand why she would be disqualified. ethics charges? yes. but just have her appoint somebody else to run the case. >> look, you know, we talked -- you guys talked in the earlier segment about the easiest ways to correct for the conspiracy theories going on over at kensington palace. this was a situation could have been easily corrected too. when the allegations were first floated once fani willis and nathan wade admitted they had an relationship, the right and maybe the helpful thing to do at that point 230 nathan wade to step away from the case and them to say, okay. we recognize that this was an error of judgment on the d.a.'s part. but we're going to cure that now and nathan wade will no longer take part in the case. that's not what they did. putting that aside, judge mcafee made clear, it doesn't matter if nathan wade was the worst lawyer in the world. she is entitled to appoint whoever she wants
willis. >> nathan wade. >> nathan wade. >> but, push it to that side. seems to me these are two totally separate things. >> yes. >> so i really don't understand why she would be disqualified. ethics charges? yes. but just have her appoint somebody else to run the case. >> look, you know, we talked -- you guys talked in the earlier segment about the easiest ways to correct for the conspiracy theories going on over at kensington palace. this was a situation...
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the idea that he was sharing idle gossip about wade and willis. the judge in this case because he is the fact finder, ana, has to determine the credibility of terrence bradley as well as all of the witnesses including fani willis and nathan wade. and so that will be a written order from judge mcafee. do not expect him to rule from the bench today. he will issue a written order, but very quickly because this case, although it's still proceeding in terms of hearings, et cetera, still doesn't have a trial date, and we need to know who's going to be the prosecutor. >> kristy, just how damning are these text messages, and will fani willis stay on the case? >> i think the detection messages are very definitive. when he said on the stand, well, i'm speculating, he's actually very clear in the messages. did the relationship begin before fani willis hired nathan wade? he said absolutely, and then he gave a date as to when, he gave specific information. >> he said it was even before willis became the d.a. of fulton county dating back to the 2020, the year 2
the idea that he was sharing idle gossip about wade and willis. the judge in this case because he is the fact finder, ana, has to determine the credibility of terrence bradley as well as all of the witnesses including fani willis and nathan wade. and so that will be a written order from judge mcafee. do not expect him to rule from the bench today. he will issue a written order, but very quickly because this case, although it's still proceeding in terms of hearings, et cetera, still doesn't have...
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and fulton county da fani willis, who hired nathan wade on the case. roman accused fani willis of financially benefiting from her relationship with nathan wade after the two went on vacations together while working the case. in a ruling on friday, judge scott mcafee said while he did not find an actual collective interest in the case, he did find a significant appearance of impropriety that infects the current structure of the prosecution team. and gave fani willis and ultimatum to either she and her office leave the case, or wade. in a letter wade writes, he is resigning to move this case forward as quickly as possible. for willis, friday's ruling is a legal victory, but a professional below. following this stunning two hour testimony. >> it is a lie. >> judge scott mcafee holding what he called her, a professional manner, on the stand. not dismissing the case out right as a defense that asked, mcafee takes willis to task over, " this tremendous lapse in judgment. " trump attorney says he will , " use all legal options available as we continue to figh
and fulton county da fani willis, who hired nathan wade on the case. roman accused fani willis of financially benefiting from her relationship with nathan wade after the two went on vacations together while working the case. in a ruling on friday, judge scott mcafee said while he did not find an actual collective interest in the case, he did find a significant appearance of impropriety that infects the current structure of the prosecution team. and gave fani willis and ultimatum to either she...
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nathan wade. a relationship that created a coofinterest. they argued that because of that relationship, willis needed to be thrown off the case, a move that would have effectively killed any chance of this case ever getting to trial. last month, da willis admitted that she and mr. wade did engage in a romantic relationship for a period of time, but maintained it had no bearing on this case. the judge overseeing the case heard hows and hours of testimony to determine when the relationship began and what, if any financial benefit fani willis received as a result of this relationship. and all of it served to steer attention away from the heart of the case. the conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election. fani willis raised that point during her own dramatic testimony on the stand. >> intrusive into people's personal lives. you are confused. you think i'm on trial. these people are on trial for trying to steal an election in 2020. i'm not on trial no matter how hard you try to put me on trial. >> today the judge ruled on whether willis can remain
nathan wade. a relationship that created a coofinterest. they argued that because of that relationship, willis needed to be thrown off the case, a move that would have effectively killed any chance of this case ever getting to trial. last month, da willis admitted that she and mr. wade did engage in a romantic relationship for a period of time, but maintained it had no bearing on this case. the judge overseeing the case heard hows and hours of testimony to determine when the relationship began...
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the lead prosecutor, nathan wade, this afternoon taking the fall, resigning his position, quote, in the interest of democracy and, quote, to move this case forward as quickly as possible. today fani immediately accepting his resignation. the judge may have shot down his attempt to disqualify willis. he did find that their relationship does raise a, quote, significant appearance of impropriety that infects the earn tire -- excuse me, current structure of the prosecution team. fani willis while admitting to the relationship has denied any wrongdoing, vehemently defending herself at a hearing last month. >> you're confused. you think i'm on trial. these people are on trial for trying to steal an election in 2020. i'm not on trial. let's be clear because you lied in this. let me tell you which one you lied in here. i think you lied right here. no, no, no, this is the truth. it is a lie. it is a lie. >> so fani willis stays but some say the damage to her credibility is already done. a washington post associate editor saying even though the decision is technically a win for willis it is, quot
the lead prosecutor, nathan wade, this afternoon taking the fall, resigning his position, quote, in the interest of democracy and, quote, to move this case forward as quickly as possible. today fani immediately accepting his resignation. the judge may have shot down his attempt to disqualify willis. he did find that their relationship does raise a, quote, significant appearance of impropriety that infects the earn tire -- excuse me, current structure of the prosecution team. fani willis while...
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special prosecutor nathan wade must go. otherwise, judge mcafee wrote, the appearance of impropriety will remain, which some observers, outside observers note contained a jury pool. the quick resolution is important because it means that the case could still potentially be tried before the november election. had willis been disqualified outright and removed from the case, her team would have been, as well, and a different prosecutor would have had to take over, almost certainly leading to a trial delay given the amount of time and work from willis in her office over the last two years. judge mcafee's ruling came days after he dismissed six of the accounts in the indictment, three of which were against trump. the others involved some of his co-defendants. trump still faces 10 counts in the case. however, in judge mcafee's words, those dismissals were not due to the prosecution's failure to allege sufficient conduct of the defendant, in fact, it is alleged in abundance. but because the legal language used in the indictment wa
special prosecutor nathan wade must go. otherwise, judge mcafee wrote, the appearance of impropriety will remain, which some observers, outside observers note contained a jury pool. the quick resolution is important because it means that the case could still potentially be tried before the november election. had willis been disqualified outright and removed from the case, her team would have been, as well, and a different prosecutor would have had to take over, almost certainly leading to a...
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but the affidavit in and of itself, you know, was corroborated by wade's sworn testimony. and that really kind of bears some essence. they are members of the georgia state bar. when you heard judge mcafee and assessing the credibility of all these witnesses, you ask yourself what is the motivation to lie? there is uncontriverted evidence that they are no longer dating. i think the defense seized on the opportunity to dive into the salaciousness of somebody's personal life because they think that's going to be enough to disqualify fani willis. but judge mcafee is new to the bench, but not new to the law. if he looks at just the evidence thus far, in my opinion, it is not enough to disqualify her. >> yasmin vossoughian, katie phang and lisa rubin, thank you very much for being with us this morning. >>> coming up, global leaders condemn a deadly incident in gaza as more than 100 palestinians were killed waiting for food trucks. we'll ask an idf spokesman how this could have happened. >>> plus, mourners risk their lives to attend the funeral of a top putin critic aleei navalny
but the affidavit in and of itself, you know, was corroborated by wade's sworn testimony. and that really kind of bears some essence. they are members of the georgia state bar. when you heard judge mcafee and assessing the credibility of all these witnesses, you ask yourself what is the motivation to lie? there is uncontriverted evidence that they are no longer dating. i think the defense seized on the opportunity to dive into the salaciousness of somebody's personal life because they think...
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this is from nathan wade. as directed by the order today, in the state of georgia, versus donald trump i hereby offer my resignation effective immediately as special prosecutor for the fulton county district attorney's office. although the court find that the defendants failed to meet their burden that the district attorney acquired actual conflict of interest, i'm offering my resignation in democracy and dedication to the american public and to move this case forward as quickly as possible. i'm proud of the work our team has accomplished, in investigating, indicting, and litigating this case. seeking justice for the people of georgia, and the united states, and being part of the effort to ensure the rule of law, and democracy are preserved has been the honor of a lifetime. that's part of it from nathan wade. here is the d.a., fani willis' acceptance of this resignation. i accept it, she says, effective immediately. i complement you for the professionalism and dignity you have shown over the last 865 days, as
this is from nathan wade. as directed by the order today, in the state of georgia, versus donald trump i hereby offer my resignation effective immediately as special prosecutor for the fulton county district attorney's office. although the court find that the defendants failed to meet their burden that the district attorney acquired actual conflict of interest, i'm offering my resignation in democracy and dedication to the american public and to move this case forward as quickly as possible....
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wade were credible. instead he says quite to the contrary -- he doesn't quite say the l word that i thought they lied, but he leaves that distinctly off for other parties. he lists the georgia state ethics committee, the state bar of georgia, fulton county board of commissioners in and the voters, those are places where the defense, as is their right, are going to seek to raise this issue. it will be an enormous distraction even if mr. wade is removed from the case. it leads to the question that i have been raising is whether fani willis for the good of the case should recuse herself and have some other lead person in her office oversee this case, just so that she doesn't become a distraction for what is such a singularly important case regardless of its outcome, it's so singularly important there be no questions about the leadership of this. regardless of what you think of the judge's decision. >> robert, talk to us about whether you think she should step aside and start over. would she have to start ov
wade were credible. instead he says quite to the contrary -- he doesn't quite say the l word that i thought they lied, but he leaves that distinctly off for other parties. he lists the georgia state ethics committee, the state bar of georgia, fulton county board of commissioners in and the voters, those are places where the defense, as is their right, are going to seek to raise this issue. it will be an enormous distraction even if mr. wade is removed from the case. it leads to the question...
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either she and her office leave the case or wade. in a letter wade writes today he is resigning to move this case forward as quickly as possible point for willis, today's ruling is a legal victory but a professional blow following the stunning to our testimony. >> it is a lot. it is a lot. >> judge scott mcafee scolding what he called her, unprofessional manner, on the stand. while not dismissing the case pr out right as the defense had asked mcafee takes willis to task over this tremendous lapse in judgment. tonight trump's attorney says he will use all legal options available as we fight to end this case. >> let's get smarter with the leadoff panel today. michelle joins us. luke broadwater, congressional reporter for the new york times. and harry litman, former u.s. attorney and former deputy assistant attorney general.r let's start with you. willis stays on the case. what are your big takeaways? >> that's the number one take away. but the number two take away is she really absorbed some real haymakers from mcafee and that's not go
either she and her office leave the case or wade. in a letter wade writes today he is resigning to move this case forward as quickly as possible point for willis, today's ruling is a legal victory but a professional blow following the stunning to our testimony. >> it is a lot. it is a lot. >> judge scott mcafee scolding what he called her, unprofessional manner, on the stand. while not dismissing the case pr out right as the defense had asked mcafee takes willis to task over this...
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wade in fact did just that. here is my colleague blayne alexander with more. >> reporter: he was front and center when fani willis announced her criminal indictment of donald trump. but tonight, nathan wade, the man leading the prosecution against the former president for allegedly trying to overturn georgia's 2020 election results, has resigned. the culmination of a month's long spectacle after one of trump's codefendants michael roman exposed a romantic relationship between wade and fulton county da fani willis who hired him. she was accused of financially benefiting from her relationship with wade. in a ruling, judge scott mcafee said while he did not find an actual conflict of interest in the case, he found a significant appearance of impropriety that affects the current structure of the prosecution team. and gave willis an ultimatum. either she and her office leave the case or wade. in a letter, wade writes today, he is resigning to move this case forward as quickly as possible. for willis, today's ruling i
wade in fact did just that. here is my colleague blayne alexander with more. >> reporter: he was front and center when fani willis announced her criminal indictment of donald trump. but tonight, nathan wade, the man leading the prosecution against the former president for allegedly trying to overturn georgia's 2020 election results, has resigned. the culmination of a month's long spectacle after one of trump's codefendants michael roman exposed a romantic relationship between wade and...
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. >>> tonight the supreme court's biggest abortion case since roe versus wade was overturned. a look at which way the justices might be leaning. >>> tromso social media stock jumps right out of the gate. why the evaluation is at odds with the actual business performance. >>> the major bridge collapses after it was hit by a ship. everything we know well recovery efforts continue. good evening once again. we are now 224 days away from the election for reproductive rights and abortion access are almost certainly to play critical roles in the race for the white house. today the supreme court heard arguments in the biggest reproductive rights case since the majority of the same justices instruct on roe versus wade in 2022. as protesters gathered outside they heard arguments in a case challenging and fda ruled that made it easier to prescribe a drug that is used in most medication abortions in this country. it is worth noting that medication abortion now accounts for nearly 2/3 of all abortions in the u.s.. during today's course session the justices seemed less than sold on the idea
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just hours after the ruling, wade submitted his resignation. meanwhile, in new york, the judge overseeing trump's hush money case pushed the trial originally scheduled for march 25th until at least mid-april. trump's team initially sought a 909 day adjournment and outright dismissal of the case after they received tens of thousands of pages of new discovery material from the manhattan u.s. attorney's office. manhattan da alvin bragg who supported a 30 day delay says there's no basis for dismissal and the documents are quote, largely irrelevant to the subject matter of this case. and in trump's federal classified documents case, his team's efforts to get the case thrown out took a hit this week. judge eileen cannon rejected one motion that argued the espionage act statute was unfairly vague when applied to a former president. and cannon also expressed doubt over trump's claim that the presidential records act prevents his prosecution. joining me now glen kirshner and host of the justice matters podcast and melissa redmond. professor at the unive
just hours after the ruling, wade submitted his resignation. meanwhile, in new york, the judge overseeing trump's hush money case pushed the trial originally scheduled for march 25th until at least mid-april. trump's team initially sought a 909 day adjournment and outright dismissal of the case after they received tens of thousands of pages of new discovery material from the manhattan u.s. attorney's office. manhattan da alvin bragg who supported a 30 day delay says there's no basis for...
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this is from wade -- from the wade campbell firm and also from fani willis' office. nathan wade writes, and i think this is important to note, that in taking the job, he says you the team on this case and the entire office have my prayers for your safety and the success in the pursuit of justice. because she also talks about the fact that he took the case in the first place, i compliment you, she writes, for the professionalism and dignity you have shown as you have endured threats against you and your family as well as the unjustified attacks in the media, in court, and your reputation as a lawyer. she also reminds people in her letter that she attempted to give the job, and so does he in his order, this judge, to someone else, the former governor of the state who wouldn't take the job because he was too afraid of maga. too afraid of facing them and the death threats. he knew what would come. nathan wade took the job when no one else had the courage to take it. that isn't talked about enough either. she didn't pick him because he was her boyfriend. she picked him be
this is from wade -- from the wade campbell firm and also from fani willis' office. nathan wade writes, and i think this is important to note, that in taking the job, he says you the team on this case and the entire office have my prayers for your safety and the success in the pursuit of justice. because she also talks about the fact that he took the case in the first place, i compliment you, she writes, for the professionalism and dignity you have shown as you have endured threats against you...
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after wade was hired. the defense shown no concrete evidence that willis profited from hiring wade and today the d.a.'s office described the defense's star witness as "disgruntled, vengeful speculator" nap witness earlier this week crumbled on the stand testifying he did not actually know in the relationship when it started. fate of willis and the entire rico case will soon be in the hands of the judge. that's judge scott mcafee. if he decides to disqualify the district attorney then her whole office risks losing this case against donald trump. bring in msnbc host and political analyst katie phang outside the atlanta courthouse. also joining us, former republican congressman, a friend, msnbc political analyst david jolly. katie phang, take me through the importance of what transpired and tell us what might happen next. >> reporter: so we did hear a long presentation by a number of defense attorneys as to why the judge should disqualify fani willis, but you notice that during the defense's presentation of h
after wade was hired. the defense shown no concrete evidence that willis profited from hiring wade and today the d.a.'s office described the defense's star witness as "disgruntled, vengeful speculator" nap witness earlier this week crumbled on the stand testifying he did not actually know in the relationship when it started. fate of willis and the entire rico case will soon be in the hands of the judge. that's judge scott mcafee. if he decides to disqualify the district attorney then...
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you said month ago that nathan wade has to go. fani willis should stay. you had some tweets yesterday. talk to us about how you see this. you yourself are not an attorney but you said the chief attorney of the country, how do you see this situation playing out in georgia? >> you saw nathan wade, from all accounts, he is a good dude but his continuation on this case is a distraction. i do want to give him credit. fani willis tried to find a lot of people to help her with this case. he was the one who stepped up and said yes. this is even after he had a cancer scare. and to his credit, under his leadership, they have secured four guilty pleas in this case and this is the only case of the four major cases where there has been a guilty plea. i give him credit for that. should he have engaged in a relationship with his boss? probably not. but at the core, the relationship did not have anything to do with the underlying effort, trump's effort, to steal and election and secondly, there was no financial benefit here. i wish he had stepped down earlier instead of
you said month ago that nathan wade has to go. fani willis should stay. you had some tweets yesterday. talk to us about how you see this. you yourself are not an attorney but you said the chief attorney of the country, how do you see this situation playing out in georgia? >> you saw nathan wade, from all accounts, he is a good dude but his continuation on this case is a distraction. i do want to give him credit. fani willis tried to find a lot of people to help her with this case. he was...
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attorney chose to continue supervising and paying wade while maintaining such a relationship. she further allowed the regular and loose exchange of money between them without any direct or verifiable measure of reconciliation. despite the singing assessment of willis' judgment, the judge concluded the defendants failed to meet the burden of proving an actual conflict of interest in this case through a personal relationship with the lead prosecutor. the other alleged grounds including forensic misconduct are also denied. however, the established record now highlights a significant appearance of impropriety that impacts the current structure of the prosecution team, and appearance that must be removed from the states selection of one of two options. nathan wade exercised one of those options this afternoon when he tendered his resignation. >> joining us now, we have melissa redman, a former fulton county, georgia district attorney and former professor at the university of georgia school of law. also with us is emily couplin, criminal defense attorney and former federal prosecuto
attorney chose to continue supervising and paying wade while maintaining such a relationship. she further allowed the regular and loose exchange of money between them without any direct or verifiable measure of reconciliation. despite the singing assessment of willis' judgment, the judge concluded the defendants failed to meet the burden of proving an actual conflict of interest in this case through a personal relationship with the lead prosecutor. the other alleged grounds including forensic...
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wade. we literally could not make this up. >> absolutely. coming up, velshi is at the top of the hour. you should not go anywhere because ali has judge michael j luttig on and he is going to talk about where donald trump's any legal cases stand. he is a very highly revered conservative judge and they're going to get into all of the things now that the supreme court is taking up the presidential immunity question. we will be right back, folks. y. you still go landine in your house. order now in the subway app. whoa, how did you defeat them? you still go with a little kung fu strength and by connecting my devices to the most powerful force of all. skadoosh. hah, huh? cool right? amazing. harness the power of xfinity internet and stay connected to the things you love. ah, they'll be like this for hours. hello dad, hello dad, hello da. uh-oh. good bunnies. ahh! msnbc in the meantime, velshi starts right now. our bestie, taking the, way ali. >> so, let me just stget a. qui you're not the same place. at the not at the table moment, right? >> micha
wade. we literally could not make this up. >> absolutely. coming up, velshi is at the top of the hour. you should not go anywhere because ali has judge michael j luttig on and he is going to talk about where donald trump's any legal cases stand. he is a very highly revered conservative judge and they're going to get into all of the things now that the supreme court is taking up the presidential immunity question. we will be right back, folks. y. you still go landine in your house. order...
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the judge had harsh words for willis and wade, writing that the prosecution is now " encumbered by an appearance of impropriety. this appearance is not created by mere status alone, but comes because of specific conduct and impacts more than a mere nebulous public interest because it concerns a public prosecutor." they also say "even if the romantic relationship began after wade's initial contract, the district attorney chose to continue supervising and paying wade or maintaining such a relationship did she further allowed the regular and this exchange of money between them without any exact or verifiable measure of reconciliation." despite this assessment, they ultimately concluded "the defendants failed to meet their burden of proving that the district attorney acquired an actual conflict of interest in this case through her personal relationship and recurring travels with her lead prosecutor. the other alleged grounds for disqualification, including forensic misconduct, are also denied. however, the established record now highlights a significant appearance of an propriety that inf
the judge had harsh words for willis and wade, writing that the prosecution is now " encumbered by an appearance of impropriety. this appearance is not created by mere status alone, but comes because of specific conduct and impacts more than a mere nebulous public interest because it concerns a public prosecutor." they also say "even if the romantic relationship began after wade's initial contract, the district attorney chose to continue supervising and paying wade or maintaining...
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wade stepping away makes a lot of sense. hopefully it allows them to move forward and get back to the core issues in the case, whether or not there is a racketeering conspiracy intended to disrupt the election and that is where we need to get to. we keep talking about on the show it is time for these allegations to have their day in court, all the sideshows, all the motions to be resolved so a jury finally gets to decide whether or not the government has proved its case. >> lisa rubin, you have the unofficial, official role of tracking the calendar for us. is there any chance that what was just described in this case happens ahead of the election? >> i think it's really difficult at this point. we really just wasted 10 days from january 8th when ashley marchant filed this motion until today. we have done nothing else in this case other than pay heed to these motions. scott macv granted a minor motion yesterday, when the got a lot more press than it deserved in terms of impact on the case. okay, so he decided a small motion b
wade stepping away makes a lot of sense. hopefully it allows them to move forward and get back to the core issues in the case, whether or not there is a racketeering conspiracy intended to disrupt the election and that is where we need to get to. we keep talking about on the show it is time for these allegations to have their day in court, all the sideshows, all the motions to be resolved so a jury finally gets to decide whether or not the government has proved its case. >> lisa rubin,...
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wade. down the line, you know, the democrats actually have the more popular agenda and so joe biden reminded americans of that last night, and he really comes off as someone who is empathetic and not aing me glow maniac. which is helpful. he said this really isn't about me, this is about you, this is about american democracy and we're going to fight for it and we're going to fight for the issues that you care about that are going to improve your lives. and i think that that actually is a really winning message, compared to the doom and the gloom that we saw from republicans. even their snickering last night, came off as cynical and small. and so i think -- >> fired up biden. even if it hadn't come out badly for them, it kind of invigorated him. i was so glad they were so interactive because he just fed off of it. where i thought oh, god, whatever they did, sort of juiced him for the next part of the speech. >> we saw a fighter and i think americans are looking for a fighter. >> yeah. >> and
wade. down the line, you know, the democrats actually have the more popular agenda and so joe biden reminded americans of that last night, and he really comes off as someone who is empathetic and not aing me glow maniac. which is helpful. he said this really isn't about me, this is about you, this is about american democracy and we're going to fight for it and we're going to fight for the issues that you care about that are going to improve your lives. and i think that that actually is a really...
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do you keep benny willis or nathan wade? you get rid of nathan wade. the delay factor, remember nathan wade patients role in this. he started before the special grand jury was even put together. he kind of spearheaded the investigation. he took the investigation and he spat it into the grand jury and resulted in the participation of the grand jury. you have to think about the institutional and historical knowledge that nathan wade has. all that being said, if the solution here is to move forward with fani willis and the rest of her team and the other skilled and competent prosecutors with anna cross and john foyt who we know is the king or professor of ricoh in georgia, that is what you do. >> for sure. dave ehrenberg, i'm curious your first gut reaction to this order. >> i think it is a victory for fani willis. she gets to stay on the case and it will continue even though it has been delayed. i think the judge would try to split hairs here and remove nathan wade and keep fani willis but how do you do that? if you don't believe nathan wade, then how do
do you keep benny willis or nathan wade? you get rid of nathan wade. the delay factor, remember nathan wade patients role in this. he started before the special grand jury was even put together. he kind of spearheaded the investigation. he took the investigation and he spat it into the grand jury and resulted in the participation of the grand jury. you have to think about the institutional and historical knowledge that nathan wade has. all that being said, if the solution here is to move...
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this hours after the judge presented said that willis could go or wade. they were pulling attention away from the case against president trump after they were accused of being in a relationship when she hired him in 2021. they also accused her of financially benefiting from his appointment. willis has acknowledged that she and wade had a romantic relationship and that it started after she appointed him as special prosecutor in this case. though the judge allowed hadder to stay on the case he offered a strong rebuke of her actions writing even if the relationship started after wade was contracted the da chose to continue being a supervisor and paying him while maintaining such a relationship. he added that while neither side was able to offer evidence of when their relationship developed or of a conflict of interest an odor remains itits appearance of a conflict of interest that has given trump and his allies what they needed deflect from the charges he is facing as he makes another bid for the white house. of course let's not forget trump and his 18co def
this hours after the judge presented said that willis could go or wade. they were pulling attention away from the case against president trump after they were accused of being in a relationship when she hired him in 2021. they also accused her of financially benefiting from his appointment. willis has acknowledged that she and wade had a romantic relationship and that it started after she appointed him as special prosecutor in this case. though the judge allowed hadder to stay on the case he...
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hours after the ruling, wade submitted his resignation. meanwhile, in new york, judge marchand pushed the trial originally scheduled for march 25th until at least mid april. trump's team initially sought a 90-day adjournment and outright dismissal. manhattan d.a. alvin bragg, who supported a 30-day delay says there's no grounds for dismissal . dismissal. judge aileen cannon rejected one motion and said that the presidential records acts was vague. joining me now, glen kirschner, former prosecutor and host of the "justice matters" podcast. and former fulton county, georgia deputy attorney. thank you for being here. glen, your reaction to how judge mcafee reached the decision here that rebukes d.a. willis but still allows the georgia case to move forward? >> you know, jonathan, on the upside, judge mcafee, after a lengthy evidentiary hearing concluded that fani willis, this district attorney, should not be removed or disqualified from the case. she will continue to head up the rico prosecution of donald trump and his 18 criminal associates,
hours after the ruling, wade submitted his resignation. meanwhile, in new york, judge marchand pushed the trial originally scheduled for march 25th until at least mid april. trump's team initially sought a 90-day adjournment and outright dismissal. manhattan d.a. alvin bragg, who supported a 30-day delay says there's no grounds for dismissal . dismissal. judge aileen cannon rejected one motion and said that the presidential records acts was vague. joining me now, glen kirschner, former...
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folks, if america since the a congress that are democrats, i promise that we will restore roe v wade as law. >> two night -- tonight, another sign that focusing abortion rights can help democrats at the ballot box even in the deepest of the deep south. get to know his name, marilyn lance, an alabama democrat who ran on abortion access has now won a special election in the state legislature. let's get smarter with our leadoff panel. josh joins us, a senior legal affairs reporter. we have tara, senior: -- senior political responded and we have the former senior policy director during the obama administration. josh, you were at the high court and heard the arguments. even conservative justices sounded like they were rough on the antiabortion side. what were they skeptical about? >> that's right. we were thinking that this challenge would have a fair amount of traction with a 6-3 conservative court, so early on, it became clear that some of the conservative justices did not seem totally on board with this. i would see the two moments that stood out in my mind were when justice amy coney
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bradley fell out with his former client and former law partner nathan wade. why? because he was accused of sexual sexually assaulting someone. willis said, i wouldn't classify her as a friend. that's the epitome of no good deed goes unpunished. both witnesses who are giving testimony contrary to wade and willis are people who have an ax to grind. the judge will take that into consideration when assessing their credibility. >> it's the judge who will make the call on this case. we will bring those arguments live to our viewers since we have cameras in the courtroom. joyce, paul, stick around. i want to touch base with you before the end of the hour again. >>> honoring alexei navalny. in the heart of putin's russia, surrounded by riot police, friends and loved ones of the late opposition leader gather in moscow to pay their respects. that's next when we are back in 60 seconds. by migraine, nurtec odt may help. it's the only medication that can treat a migraine when it strikes and prevent migraine attacks. treat and prevent, all in one. don't take if allergic to nurt
bradley fell out with his former client and former law partner nathan wade. why? because he was accused of sexual sexually assaulting someone. willis said, i wouldn't classify her as a friend. that's the epitome of no good deed goes unpunished. both witnesses who are giving testimony contrary to wade and willis are people who have an ax to grind. the judge will take that into consideration when assessing their credibility. >> it's the judge who will make the call on this case. we will...
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wade, it is you who can change it. you can simply give him a second term and make sure there is a united states senate that can change the composition. >> and i think that is actually very unusual language. you highlighted this earlier, joy, when he said if you, the american people send me a congress, i will restore roe v. wade. that's not unheard of in the state of the union construct, but it is rare. and to put it in that context, send me a pro-choice congress. >> it's a civic reminder this is the way that works. you have to send me a congress that can affirm the decision to replace roe. >> with this congress and mike johnson here, can't happen. >> and i also thought this week we've gotten two big data points about just how little or just how dismayed this president is with this court, right? that moment, but then also he gave an interview to the new yorker where he openly suggested that some of these justices, sam alito, clarence thomas, were waiting for retirement and referenced the guy who likes to vacation on yac
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now this case has gone towards was perjury committed by nathan wade and fani willis, and so unfortunately at this point, i think the judge is going to have to address whether or not that has been committed and whether that is enough to be able to take off fani willis from this prosecution. >> all right, so we, again, are watching the lawyers who are there for each of the defense -- for each of the defense teams are there, they're introducing themselves. there's seven defendants there in total, multiple lawyers for many of those defendants. this could be quite a few hours of arguments. lisa rubin is also with us, andrew weissmann is also with us there at the table with me. let's talk quickly about georgia law here and what needs to be proven. an article written by our friend joyce vance and a couple of others talks about how georgia law, georgia law on conflict of interest does not apply here. >> i agree with that, and there's sort of a legal component to this, and there's a factual component, and the unfortunate part is whether i agree, you agree and joyce
now this case has gone towards was perjury committed by nathan wade and fani willis, and so unfortunately at this point, i think the judge is going to have to address whether or not that has been committed and whether that is enough to be able to take off fani willis from this prosecution. >> all right, so we, again, are watching the lawyers who are there for each of the defense -- for each of the defense teams are there, they're introducing themselves. there's seven defendants there in...
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wade. we're going to get to all of that in just a moment. i'm telling you, joe biden proved, i think, he still has a pulse. that's number one. speaker mike johnson might have rolled his eyes more than both my daughters in their entire lives. what's your take? >> well, i mean, had a pulse? he had frazier's left hook. >> i'm joking. >> i have never seen -- and part of this is delivery, part of it is speech writing. part of it is setting up the argument for the fall. i've sat through a lot of these. i have never seen one side put in so many uncomfortable positions as the republicans were last night because they were on the wrong side of history. they were on the wrong side of the polls. they were on the wrong side of politics. they were on the wrong side of decency. this was -- this was a tour de force by joe biden. you had peggy noonan last week calling him cranky old joe after his angry press conference, who last night, michael beschloss, likened him to harry truman. there was a real give 'e
wade. we're going to get to all of that in just a moment. i'm telling you, joe biden proved, i think, he still has a pulse. that's number one. speaker mike johnson might have rolled his eyes more than both my daughters in their entire lives. what's your take? >> well, i mean, had a pulse? he had frazier's left hook. >> i'm joking. >> i have never seen -- and part of this is delivery, part of it is speech writing. part of it is setting up the argument for the fall. i've sat...
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fani willis accepted nathan wade's resignation meeting the case will move forward as planned. consider that even in losing, trump world got most of what it wanted. as we speak, there are emails flooding inboxes, disingenuously shouting "look here, fani willis is corrupt ." there's no legitimacy to that but it goes beyond those attacks, considering the motion to remove tran 16 and wade from the case, filed january 8th. trumps team ran out the clock for two months, and exasperated the development, given what we discussed yesterday. that is how successful trump has been in deploying a topic -- a tactic of delay. it's a potential offramp for the disgraced ex-president and his legal troubles and eight months separate the american people from the prospect of that bid although, we should never forget what this case was about, a sitting president actively working to undermine the result of a free and fair election and here's what happened when it did. >> calling for backup. >> they were peaceful people, these are great people. the crowd was unbelievable and i mentioned the love, the l
fani willis accepted nathan wade's resignation meeting the case will move forward as planned. consider that even in losing, trump world got most of what it wanted. as we speak, there are emails flooding inboxes, disingenuously shouting "look here, fani willis is corrupt ." there's no legitimacy to that but it goes beyond those attacks, considering the motion to remove tran 16 and wade from the case, filed january 8th. trumps team ran out the clock for two months, and exasperated the...
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wade. the supreme court wrote the following. women are not without electorial power. excuse me, electorial or political power. you're about to realize how much you are right about that. those bragging about overturning roe v. wade have no clue about the power of women. but they found out when reproductive freedom was on the ballot. we won in 2022 and we will win again in 2024. >> what an incredible moment. addressing the supreme court justices right there. hold that thought for a second and think about everything you just heard for just a moment from president biden last night. and compare it now to this. >> for 54 years, they were trying to get roe v. wade terminated and i did it and i'm proud to have done it. president trump is going to make a determination, what he thinks is great for the country and what is fair for the country, but the fact that i was able to terminate roe v. wade after 50 years of trying, they work for 50 years. i never seen anything like it. they worked -- and i was
wade. the supreme court wrote the following. women are not without electorial power. excuse me, electorial or political power. you're about to realize how much you are right about that. those bragging about overturning roe v. wade have no clue about the power of women. but they found out when reproductive freedom was on the ballot. we won in 2022 and we will win again in 2024. >> what an incredible moment. addressing the supreme court justices right there. hold that thought for a second...
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wade. they don't necessarily think about january 6th anymore when they think donald trump. those are things you have to remind voters of. you have to tell voters of this thing over and over again. to understand the sort of the notion that you're not going to mention the guy, i'm not going to mention this dude, i think it's worthwhile to be explicit about it. the reason why i need to be re-elected is because donald trump overturned roe v. wade. it's obviously not the most accurate way to render it, but that's sort of effectively the message you want to send. and you need people to hear those words. donald trump ended roe v. wade. that's kind of the key thing voters need to take away. i'm not sure that being oblique about it is necessarily effective. and i think that the notion that there's something unbecoming about being explicit and not being aggressive is a relic of an older style of politics that may not necessarily apply in 2024. >> right, and is there a history, michael, our buddy hist
wade. they don't necessarily think about january 6th anymore when they think donald trump. those are things you have to remind voters of. you have to tell voters of this thing over and over again. to understand the sort of the notion that you're not going to mention the guy, i'm not going to mention this dude, i think it's worthwhile to be explicit about it. the reason why i need to be re-elected is because donald trump overturned roe v. wade. it's obviously not the most accurate way to render...
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she pointed nathan wade because he was her boyfriend, and therefore, the money that went to nathan wade, which came back to her in the form of vacations, constitutes not necessarily an actual conflict, but the appearance of impropriety. and that was a major argument today. the legal standard to be applied. they don't even know because this is never come up in this context. so they don't know what legal standard will actually apply. it's all up to judge mcafee and ultimately, you're right. does it affect the substantive guilt or not guilty of the defendants? no. but, is it a real problem to this prosecution? yes. >> this is why i do worry about what the voters are thinking and how they are interpreting all of this, right? because it's incumbent upon us, in the party, to actually get them to follow this in a way that we are all doing to understand what donald trump is doing, that his goal really was to embarrass them, right? to take them in some way, shape, or form. they're waiting for an outcome. they're waiting for an outcome. but in the meantime, sheamus, ruby freeman. have stood in fr
she pointed nathan wade because he was her boyfriend, and therefore, the money that went to nathan wade, which came back to her in the form of vacations, constitutes not necessarily an actual conflict, but the appearance of impropriety. and that was a major argument today. the legal standard to be applied. they don't even know because this is never come up in this context. so they don't know what legal standard will actually apply. it's all up to judge mcafee and ultimately, you're right. does...
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wade began. so now the focus of this thing has shifted. it started off as a question of whether miss willis benefited financially but has evolved into a question of whether or not there is the appearance of impropriety in her relationship with nathan wade. trump's codefendants are effectively arguing that even if fani willis didn't create some elaborate scheme to profit from this trial, the appearance of dishonesty about her personal life should be enough to kick her off this case. >> all you have to do is make a finding of fact that you have genuine legitimate concerns about their credibility. and if they don't tell the truth under oath, or if there is a significant concern about their credibility, then they are violating their ethical rules. and is anyone will tell you, as your honor already knew for when you are a prosecutor, prosecutors are held to a higher standard. >> want to bring into this conversation senior importer for the atlanta journal- constitution. thank you for joining me tonight. it feels on the outside like the defense,
wade began. so now the focus of this thing has shifted. it started off as a question of whether miss willis benefited financially but has evolved into a question of whether or not there is the appearance of impropriety in her relationship with nathan wade. trump's codefendants are effectively arguing that even if fani willis didn't create some elaborate scheme to profit from this trial, the appearance of dishonesty about her personal life should be enough to kick her off this case. >> all...
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wade, which affects millions of people in this country. >> they are not forgetting that at. all democrats will never forget that and the country will never forget for a long, long time. in fact, that may very well be one of the things mitch mcconnell ends up regretting over the course of the rest of his life. but the fact of the matter is, but democrats in the senate right now understand and know they've got to deal with the senate as of today. not two years ago, three years ago, four years ago, or ten years ago. but today. and today is a different senate. today is a different world. as you noted, senators leaving, senators retiring on the republican side are being replaced, generally, with a trump acolyte from the maga faction. that's a different world than what mitch mcconnell was. those senators have not forgot. believe me, i talk to them. they will not forget. but that deal with what we're facing them today and in front of them in the next few years. that's why they say that. i think everybody is concerned that the senate of the united states is about to become the house
wade, which affects millions of people in this country. >> they are not forgetting that at. all democrats will never forget that and the country will never forget for a long, long time. in fact, that may very well be one of the things mitch mcconnell ends up regretting over the course of the rest of his life. but the fact of the matter is, but democrats in the senate right now understand and know they've got to deal with the senate as of today. not two years ago, three years ago, four...
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wade. that dobbs decision turned it on its head. now we are seeing a patchwork. if the judges went the other way on this, it wouldn't just be states where abortion is banned, it would be every state in the country banning a safe and effective drug. this is just the beginning. whether it's the alabama ivf ruling, whether it's these cases out of texas, whether it's the assault on emergency care, we're going to continue to see because of the dobbs decision, and the failure sadly of many republicans to side with us on codifying roe v. wade into law, we are not able to do that right now. that's why this is so important. not just this decision but this election that's coming up. because we would have at built to codify roe v. wade into law if we elect people who stand on side of women making their own health care decisions. >> congress filed a brief in this. you are a former prosecutor. you have been a lawyer for a long, long time. you know that the supreme court's dobbs decision said it was up t
wade. that dobbs decision turned it on its head. now we are seeing a patchwork. if the judges went the other way on this, it wouldn't just be states where abortion is banned, it would be every state in the country banning a safe and effective drug. this is just the beginning. whether it's the alabama ivf ruling, whether it's these cases out of texas, whether it's the assault on emergency care, we're going to continue to see because of the dobbs decision, and the failure sadly of many...
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shortly after the judges order, wade did just that. now, typically, developers in this case have been binary, each decision by a judge has been considered either a win for the prosecutors or a win for trump and his co- defendants, but this latest development is not so simple. legally, this appears to be a win for fani willis, her case will go forward with her leading the charge. but, trump and his team did successfully managed to delay yet another of his many cases, and politically, this case has suffered a blow. the damage from weeks of televised hearings about fani willis' love life cannot be undone. it likely has had a real effect on the pool of jurors who will likely hear this case and in order to see this case through, fani willis will have to survive her own re-election this november. this entire sideshow will now be fodder for her critics. nbc news spoke to fulton county voters outside of the courthouse today to see what impact this would have on their decision. >> reporter: could you see your self supporting her again after all
shortly after the judges order, wade did just that. now, typically, developers in this case have been binary, each decision by a judge has been considered either a win for the prosecutors or a win for trump and his co- defendants, but this latest development is not so simple. legally, this appears to be a win for fani willis, her case will go forward with her leading the charge. but, trump and his team did successfully managed to delay yet another of his many cases, and politically, this case...
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wade? should we protect ivf? >> and the first version. >> just like taking things that your side believes in that you personally believe in, that your coalition believes in. that most people outside your collision even, but they can't agree to because there is a sociopath waiting in the wings who doesn't abide by these things that 80% to 90% of americans do abide, which is political violence is bad and putin is bad, and january 6 is bad. >> and nato is good. >> i ask all of you to join together and defend democracy, remember your oath of office to defend against all threats foreign and domestic, respect free and fair elections, restore trust in our institutions. make clear political violence has absolutely no place in america. zero place. it is not to suggest history is watching. he is calling on republicans in that moment. >> correct. >> you're suppose to applaud for no political violence. in fact perhaps you should stand up and applaud for no political violence. can you do that? he is calling to question that i
wade? should we protect ivf? >> and the first version. >> just like taking things that your side believes in that you personally believe in, that your coalition believes in. that most people outside your collision even, but they can't agree to because there is a sociopath waiting in the wings who doesn't abide by these things that 80% to 90% of americans do abide, which is political violence is bad and putin is bad, and january 6 is bad. >> and nato is good. >> i ask all...