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it's the same with iraq. if you think a successful iraq is expensive, think about the alternative of a failed state in the middle of the middle east. thank you. >> thank you, christine. john, we will turn to you. >> thanks very much. i want to thank you for the invitation. it's great to be here with christine and les and talk to everyone. i think i will have to talk to everyone a less enlightened minutes then everyone because christine covered a range of challenges i think pretty well. i will maybe just glide through the remarks life prepared and not so as to not repeat a lot of what you've already heard and sort of give you the u.s. government angle on some of these things. pardon me. i mean, christine lead of the challenge is very well and clearly and i was checking my notes and picking them off as she went through them thoroughly. our own approach to government relationship with iraq is governed by strategic framework agreement which is something we signed in 2009 which covers the gamut of the relationship
it's the same with iraq. if you think a successful iraq is expensive, think about the alternative of a failed state in the middle of the middle east. thank you. >> thank you, christine. john, we will turn to you. >> thanks very much. i want to thank you for the invitation. it's great to be here with christine and les and talk to everyone. i think i will have to talk to everyone a less enlightened minutes then everyone because christine covered a range of challenges i think pretty...
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but he really understood iraq. and as i said, with his sunni-controlled military, he was able to, you know, hold himself in power. and then, the united states realized that if we weren't going to get rid of him, we had to control his weapons of -- or his weapons, not just mass destruction; we wanted to get rid of his conventional forces and his missiles, and everything. and so that was what originated as the -- as the -- you know, the arms embargo against -- well, actually, it's a total embargo against iraq, under the auspices of the united nations. and every time saddam hussein would make a move that would threaten one part of the country or another, the united states would -- for lack of anything else they knew to do -- was to set up a no-fly zone. the first one was with the kurds. because the kurds really did suffer a great deal in their rebellion. and the advantage they had over the shia, who had rebelled first, was that the international press could come in over the borders of turkey and iran and really see wh
but he really understood iraq. and as i said, with his sunni-controlled military, he was able to, you know, hold himself in power. and then, the united states realized that if we weren't going to get rid of him, we had to control his weapons of -- or his weapons, not just mass destruction; we wanted to get rid of his conventional forces and his missiles, and everything. and so that was what originated as the -- as the -- you know, the arms embargo against -- well, actually, it's a total embargo...
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it's the same with iraq. if you think a successful iraq is expensive, think about the alternative of a failed state in the middle of the middle east. thank you. >> thank you, christine. john, we'll turn to you. >> thank you. thanks very much. i want you to new mac for the invitation. it's great to be her with christine and les and talk to everyone. i think i'll talk to everyone a little less in my 10 minutes than i would have because christine cover the range of deployment challenges pretty well. although maybe just glad to get through the remarks i prepared so as to not repeat a lot of what she vardy heard and sort of give you the u.s. government and go on some of these things. pardon me. i mean, christine laid out the charges very well and very clearly and you know, i was checking my own notes and sort it ticking them off as she went through them very thoroughly. i run approach, the u.s. government relation with iraq is governed by the strategic framework agreement, which is something we signed in 2009, whi
it's the same with iraq. if you think a successful iraq is expensive, think about the alternative of a failed state in the middle of the middle east. thank you. >> thank you, christine. john, we'll turn to you. >> thank you. thanks very much. i want you to new mac for the invitation. it's great to be her with christine and les and talk to everyone. i think i'll talk to everyone a little less in my 10 minutes than i would have because christine cover the range of deployment...
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but i think people do look at iraq. if they think if chaos comes with a democracy, they don't want it. but i also have to say for the arab world, if they think that licentiousness comes with democracy, they don't want it. there are negative things associate with democracy as well. interestingly enough i'm going to jordan tomorrow. there's an election in jordan next monday. more than a few jordanians have said to me, iraqis have more freedom to choose their leaders than we do. and they are there and they see the bad parts, but there's also a little bit of envy that iraqis have more freedom than the jordanians do. so i don't think iraq has emerged yet as a model as once was talked about, for the arab world. but most arabs are subtle enough to understand that the good comes with the bad. democracy across the arab world is long-term endeavor. i think it is based, the idea pursue democracy is based on the aspirations of people in the arab world themselves, it's not based on us in posting something, and i think everyone in th
but i think people do look at iraq. if they think if chaos comes with a democracy, they don't want it. but i also have to say for the arab world, if they think that licentiousness comes with democracy, they don't want it. there are negative things associate with democracy as well. interestingly enough i'm going to jordan tomorrow. there's an election in jordan next monday. more than a few jordanians have said to me, iraqis have more freedom to choose their leaders than we do. and they are there...
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iraq relations. i think that's fundamentally questions of the future of iraq. i wonder general i can start with you, sort of take on this question. here we are at this nexus of time and energy and blood. what happens next in iraq? [inaudible] >> -- how important iraq is i believe to the future, when a key place it is in the middle east and the role it can play in my mind of bringing increased security, not only inside the middle east but the united states. iraq, as everyone knows is in a very strategic location inside of the middle east. the picture of many different groups of people, sunni, shia, kurds. it is says he ran on the right. to the east as many sunni arab states to the south and the west and has this large kurdish population in the northern part of iraq. and so, this represents so many peoples within the middle east. just iraq itself becomes an extremely important place for the future. then he put on top of that the fact that they have started to move towards the democratic process. they're interested in having an open, economic environment inside th
iraq relations. i think that's fundamentally questions of the future of iraq. i wonder general i can start with you, sort of take on this question. here we are at this nexus of time and energy and blood. what happens next in iraq? [inaudible] >> -- how important iraq is i believe to the future, when a key place it is in the middle east and the role it can play in my mind of bringing increased security, not only inside the middle east but the united states. iraq, as everyone knows is in a...
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what has that got to do with iraq? if saddam hussein is a brutal dictator but this, this and this reason you cannot go in and expect to have just a smooth takeover. and so when i look back thinking, you know, all the things i've read about japan and other places, the people in the bush administration are saying, well, here's our, here's our war plan. here's, here's plan a. we're going to go in, topple iraq and get out quickly. in quickly, out quickly, leave a small footprint and the existing government will take over. there is no plan b. i really have read extensively, and everything we can get, you know, there'll never be a u.s. investigation of iraq the way there was after pearl harbor. we'll never get all of those documents. but i've read a lot of it has come out including people like douglas fite and others who have really pushed out a lot of documents. there was no plan b. sounds just like that general who said we're going to get in and out of china in four years. you know, the joke was plan a is to get if and out
what has that got to do with iraq? if saddam hussein is a brutal dictator but this, this and this reason you cannot go in and expect to have just a smooth takeover. and so when i look back thinking, you know, all the things i've read about japan and other places, the people in the bush administration are saying, well, here's our, here's our war plan. here's, here's plan a. we're going to go in, topple iraq and get out quickly. in quickly, out quickly, leave a small footprint and the existing...
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in iraq. we'll hear from the deputy special representative of the u.n. secretary-general as well as the state department iraq affairs director. hosted by united nations development program, this is about an hour and 45 minutes. >> well, i think will get started. and everyone here all right in the back? is the microphone working effectively? great, thank you. we seen that sort sort of an unfilled deal here, which may be a metaphor for our political situation on this election day. let's hope not. my name is fred tipson. i'm the director of the washington office of you in the pit, and i would like to welcome you to our roundtable today on iraq's developer challenges. most of you know undp well, but for those who don't, we are the leading developer and agency of the united nations, have offices in over 130 countries and do work in more than 160 countries. but among those assignments are development challenges in many of the most difficult parts of the world. we want to highlight in particular the
in iraq. we'll hear from the deputy special representative of the u.n. secretary-general as well as the state department iraq affairs director. hosted by united nations development program, this is about an hour and 45 minutes. >> well, i think will get started. and everyone here all right in the back? is the microphone working effectively? great, thank you. we seen that sort sort of an unfilled deal here, which may be a metaphor for our political situation on this election day. let's...
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we did in iraq. and even in pakistan where we have some military forces they're doing some humanitarian things. all round the world they have to be very tightly needed with the ambassadors. if you don't do that, you will never have unity of effort. >> thank you very much. >> i invite you now to pose questions. we have a few minutes before this panel is, i would be very, very grateful for questions and comments. >> joyce davis with the world affairs council at harrisburg. i think everyone in this room pretty much is the mother with the middle east. and we've watched how, in many countries, the people will experiment at least with islamic governments. so the question that am asking you is if indeed the u.s. is closing the books, clearly stepping away, to allow the iraqi people to determine their fate, and considering what we know about the influence of iran amongst the majority of she is in the country, can you envision, you know, the possibility of an islamic state emerging after the united states lea
we did in iraq. and even in pakistan where we have some military forces they're doing some humanitarian things. all round the world they have to be very tightly needed with the ambassadors. if you don't do that, you will never have unity of effort. >> thank you very much. >> i invite you now to pose questions. we have a few minutes before this panel is, i would be very, very grateful for questions and comments. >> joyce davis with the world affairs council at harrisburg. i...
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invasion of iraq. now, when the u.s. invasion of iraq took place 18 months after 9/11 in march, 2003, we had another colossal failure of intelligence on the part of the united states. and a colossal failure of imagination on the part of the united states. so if you come back to the u.s. perspective you say there was an incredible intelligence and imagination failure in 1941. there was another in 2001. and instead of that, getting us to think about who is this adversary to know the enemy, we get into an even more disastrous war in the case of iraq where the intelligence failure is simply colossal and that involves an inability to imagine the other side. and it is not to sympathize with the other side. that's not the point. the point is to imagine the other side and one to imagine the nature of their grievances. and, of course, the argument after 9/11 and still pretty much, they hate us for our freedoms. they have no legitimate grievances. the argument was, you know, the iraqis are under a brutal dictator which they were.
invasion of iraq. now, when the u.s. invasion of iraq took place 18 months after 9/11 in march, 2003, we had another colossal failure of intelligence on the part of the united states. and a colossal failure of imagination on the part of the united states. so if you come back to the u.s. perspective you say there was an incredible intelligence and imagination failure in 1941. there was another in 2001. and instead of that, getting us to think about who is this adversary to know the enemy, we get...
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volunteered for iraq. one in the marines, one in the army, i think that's justification in and of itselfs. absolutely. saddam hussein according to the united nations inventory had over 6,000 liters of anthrax. you could put that, that's enough to kill over a million people. you could put that in one pickup truck with a stake bed and high sides. so you had a lot of trucks leaveing dodge, so to speak, getting out of dodge, syria, iran, who knows what was in those vehicles. and i represented for many years the entire california-mexican border. we had massive loads of cocaine, marijuana, and other things going across the border on a nightly basis. sure, lots of stuff could move across. i think -- it's one reason that i wrote the book is a testimony to these guys. these folks that fought in iraq, the 1.2 million people that peter just talked about. because they won. their mission was successful. this is veterans day. and you know one of the best things you can tell a veteran is thanks. and thanks for a successf
volunteered for iraq. one in the marines, one in the army, i think that's justification in and of itselfs. absolutely. saddam hussein according to the united nations inventory had over 6,000 liters of anthrax. you could put that, that's enough to kill over a million people. you could put that in one pickup truck with a stake bed and high sides. so you had a lot of trucks leaveing dodge, so to speak, getting out of dodge, syria, iran, who knows what was in those vehicles. and i represented for...
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what about the war mica iraq? >> sure. i actually didn't go into iraq on this piece. that might be a topic for a second one. iraq is interesting and everyone's always set of course the iranians got a lot of influence when we got rid of some usian and that's true but iranians are carrying out of iraq right now, tonight. i remember getting an e-mail from an acquaintance of mine in tava on predicting that maliki would be reconfirm the primm minister at the end of september and we of course still don't have a new iraqi government. this is more ticklish because although there have been reports that iran is getting some support to the taliban now, the reports that there is involvement in iraq is much more serious and we know that american servicemen and women have died because of ied technology and special groups and others that have been supported by iran since 2003 and so the u.s. and iran have not been able to cooperate in any way on iraq. will that change? i don't know. that's why i suggest of tennessee because we have a history of cooperation. it's ironic i mentioned t
what about the war mica iraq? >> sure. i actually didn't go into iraq on this piece. that might be a topic for a second one. iraq is interesting and everyone's always set of course the iranians got a lot of influence when we got rid of some usian and that's true but iranians are carrying out of iraq right now, tonight. i remember getting an e-mail from an acquaintance of mine in tava on predicting that maliki would be reconfirm the primm minister at the end of september and we of course...
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one of your several on president bush and the iraq war. talking about the president relationships with the generals. let's listen in. >> the problem is george bush never really solved the dilemma of how -- what is the interaction between the civilian and in the military? he never had the generals so they were close to him so he knew what was going on. so this is all taking place at a distance, or over secure video links to baghdad. and there's not that moment of i kind of call it a come to jesus moment or meeting when he got everyone together and said, look, this is a mess. >> host: compare, contrast, president obama and the generals? >> guest: one the themes here is the relationship between the civilian leadership and the uniform military. and in the obama case, as is laid out in great spread sheet detail as one reviewer said, you see the military resisting and saying look we -- you have to send 40,000 troops. this was last year in the strategy review. you have to have kind of an open-ended commitment. president obama did not buy that. an
one of your several on president bush and the iraq war. talking about the president relationships with the generals. let's listen in. >> the problem is george bush never really solved the dilemma of how -- what is the interaction between the civilian and in the military? he never had the generals so they were close to him so he knew what was going on. so this is all taking place at a distance, or over secure video links to baghdad. and there's not that moment of i kind of call it a come...
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sadly, iraq still has extremist that attack iraqi civilians to try and stay relevant, but iraq and the iraqi people have rejected an extremist ideology of sectarianism. the celebrity do here in the just under 50,000 brave men and women i have the pleasure of working with are focused and committed to ensuring that iraq becomes a sovereign, stable and self-reliant country. with that, i'll be happy to take your questions. >> viola. >> general cone, viola gienger from bloomberg news. how do you see the iraqi security forces expertise currently and how is the default theme on some of the capabilities that you provide to protect the u.s. civilians working in iraq right now and that will have to be turned over to someone else in december -- after december 2011? such as counter ied capabilities and so forth? what are some of the key areas that you feel that they may be able to take on? what kind of expertise do they have in this area? >> yeah, the iraqi security forces are incapable going for us, and it's focused on counterinsurgency and internal security. and as a result of their efforts, we'
sadly, iraq still has extremist that attack iraqi civilians to try and stay relevant, but iraq and the iraqi people have rejected an extremist ideology of sectarianism. the celebrity do here in the just under 50,000 brave men and women i have the pleasure of working with are focused and committed to ensuring that iraq becomes a sovereign, stable and self-reliant country. with that, i'll be happy to take your questions. >> viola. >> general cone, viola gienger from bloomberg news....
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in iraq, they have all this money that goes to the government from their oil. in afghanistan, they do not. afghanistan is a poor country. >> host: i want to clarify one thing to read that you talk about how the military was arguing we need to train 400,000 police and afghan military. the president talked about the fact it would cost 8 billion to do that, and an annual i think passionate is the intention to united states will continue on its and paying for the afghan military? >> guest: no. hopefully not. but, you know, this is one of the question marks, and this is one of the reasons president obama kept saying, i'm not going to spend a trillion dollars, because his budget director gave him a memo saying 10 years more in this war will cost $889 billion. there are all kinds of numbers thrown around. we know from the war in afghanistan and iraq that all of those numbers are global, that it always costs more. >> host: this of you want to click occasion. you said a minute ago the present would like out of afghanistan. he asked does afghanistan -- does obama want ou
in iraq, they have all this money that goes to the government from their oil. in afghanistan, they do not. afghanistan is a poor country. >> host: i want to clarify one thing to read that you talk about how the military was arguing we need to train 400,000 police and afghan military. the president talked about the fact it would cost 8 billion to do that, and an annual i think passionate is the intention to united states will continue on its and paying for the afghan military? >>...
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just a week ago i was in iraq at cannes victory meeting with general austin, the commander in iraq on critical audit we have that's going to produce tough findings in january but he needed to know them today because they affect an enormous contractor for him. that's the kind of work we are able to do by being engaged on the ground with leadership. we have produced 27 reports five less purge reports to strengthen performance and they've been focused on accounting for taxpayer dollars, the four major funds that comprise about 46 billion of the money. the question you asked me to address particularly is this the specialist after general for overseas contingency operation makes sense? and different from my fellow panel members i say yes absolutely. because of several reasons. one, the crosscutting jurisdiction. i have a card i can go to any door of any department with any funds and a lot of these projects and programs are multi funded from different sources. police ran for example and i can get answers from any department, and i don't have to operate in a stovepipe. second, a singularly f
just a week ago i was in iraq at cannes victory meeting with general austin, the commander in iraq on critical audit we have that's going to produce tough findings in january but he needed to know them today because they affect an enormous contractor for him. that's the kind of work we are able to do by being engaged on the ground with leadership. we have produced 27 reports five less purge reports to strengthen performance and they've been focused on accounting for taxpayer dollars, the four...
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of respect for the iraq war. probably if i'd done due diligence as they say in business, i would have realized we were going into iraq so poorly prepared. not so poorly prepared from our point of view, but so poorly prepared from the point of view of the iraqi people. so -- sir. >> just to follow up on your response to that. how do you reconcile -- [inaudible] just to follow up on what you just said, how do you reconcile that with your analysis previously about the gimme rights versus the get out of here rights? it seems like providing the iraqis with electricity, providing them with water, all that nation-building infrastructure stuff seems to fall on the side of gimme rights rather than get out of here. >> well, you're right, you're correct. that certainly does. and if we had invaded america -- but we didn't, you know? [laughter] you know. if our government had invaded us, and i suppose some would say they had in a way. they would be under a certain obligation to provide for our welfare. i speak of it only real
of respect for the iraq war. probably if i'd done due diligence as they say in business, i would have realized we were going into iraq so poorly prepared. not so poorly prepared from our point of view, but so poorly prepared from the point of view of the iraqi people. so -- sir. >> just to follow up on your response to that. how do you reconcile -- [inaudible] just to follow up on what you just said, how do you reconcile that with your analysis previously about the gimme rights versus the...
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. >> host: one thing, also, that surprised me on iraq and there are yet again reports that iraq was having a new government, that iraqis dislike intrusion and interference from iran as much as they do from the united states. >> guest: yeah. >> host: i thought that was interesting as well. >> guest: yeah. >> host: you know, with the stereotype that somehow iraq is now good manying like iran -- becoming like iran. >> guest: yeah. and i think if we paid more attention to some of the polling in the iraq early on, we would have altered our course. but, you know, the iran question is critical in that whole region because it's not just the iraqis that are concerned there. a lot of fuss was made over a recent poll we did where we had arabs looking favorably in some countries on the iranian nuclear program. but if you look at the other numbers we have, not looking favorably on iran itself. they see iran as a threat, but there's almost a screw you factor to their nuclear program. it's like we opposed it, and so people are going to say, okay, he's defying you, that might not be a bad thing. but they'
. >> host: one thing, also, that surprised me on iraq and there are yet again reports that iraq was having a new government, that iraqis dislike intrusion and interference from iran as much as they do from the united states. >> guest: yeah. >> host: i thought that was interesting as well. >> guest: yeah. >> host: you know, with the stereotype that somehow iraq is now good manying like iran -- becoming like iran. >> guest: yeah. and i think if we paid more...
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just a week ago i was in iraq at cannes victory meeting with general austin, the commander in iraq on critical audit we have that's going to produce tough findings in january but he needed to know them today because they affect an enormous contractor for him. that's the kind of work we are able to do by being engaged on the ground with leadership. we have produced 27 reports five less purge reports to strengthen performance and they've been focused on accounting for taxpayer dollars, the four major funds that comprise about 46 billion of the money. the question you asked me to address particularly is this the specialist after general for overseas contingency operation makes sense? and different from my fellow panel members i say yes absolutely. because of several reasons. one, the crosscutting jurisdiction. i have a card i can go to any door of any department with any funds and a lot of these projects and programs are multi funded from different sources. police ran for example and i can get answers from any department, and i don't have to operate in a stovepipe. second, a singularly f
just a week ago i was in iraq at cannes victory meeting with general austin, the commander in iraq on critical audit we have that's going to produce tough findings in january but he needed to know them today because they affect an enormous contractor for him. that's the kind of work we are able to do by being engaged on the ground with leadership. we have produced 27 reports five less purge reports to strengthen performance and they've been focused on accounting for taxpayer dollars, the four...
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invaded iraq she told a bunch of senior u.s. officials the u.s. was going to do to the middle east what we did to europe after world war ii. this is another one of my favorites as somehow you can today template from one area and put it on another. >> guest: the reason that kind of thinking is there is because we don't see them as just one. we understand that we lost 3,000 people on 9/11 and the visit, that will be with us a long, long time and ought to remain with us and people who don't remember that americans lost and are still afraid and concerned to the security, etc., and angry about what happened will pay the price for not knowing that. but when i iraqis lost 100,000, when the lebanese lost 1400 a child to the country of them civilian, and the palestinians lost the same number in gaza, and there will be a killing on the west bank and they will write an article that will say after a period of time but in that period when the israelis have 100 palestinians, and we just don't think of their lives as equal to our own. they just don't understand
invaded iraq she told a bunch of senior u.s. officials the u.s. was going to do to the middle east what we did to europe after world war ii. this is another one of my favorites as somehow you can today template from one area and put it on another. >> guest: the reason that kind of thinking is there is because we don't see them as just one. we understand that we lost 3,000 people on 9/11 and the visit, that will be with us a long, long time and ought to remain with us and people who don't...
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between the afghan diaries and the iraq diaries, there has been close to 500,000 records that have been disclosed, at least 97%, 90% of them classified. there is absolutely noticed -- there is absolutely no different show mission between -- the irony of it is we have a very simple process per the whole idea behind the classification system and a uniform set of markings is to clearly put on notice to both the holder of information and the recipient of information -- this is information that is sensitive, the unauthorized disclosure of which could cause damage to national security. 120 individuals for months, to review the 90,000 afghan-related documents, and i can assure you that in terms of doing a review, to determine what was sensitive and what in fact could cause serious damage, classification markings were entirely irrelevant to that review. they would have to literally go through them line by line. so, you know, one of the things that i find disappointing about this is that there have been rightful condemnation on the leak by some of our government house leaders. but i have yet to
between the afghan diaries and the iraq diaries, there has been close to 500,000 records that have been disclosed, at least 97%, 90% of them classified. there is absolutely noticed -- there is absolutely no different show mission between -- the irony of it is we have a very simple process per the whole idea behind the classification system and a uniform set of markings is to clearly put on notice to both the holder of information and the recipient of information -- this is information that is...
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in iraq. just a disastrous failure of intelligence upon the united states. and so then you have got pearl harbor which was a japanese tag correctly brilliant strategic idiotic thing. you have the war of choice of the islamist and america is doing a war of choice. so i'm a historian and i wanted to understand, does not all the same but i wanted to see how you could do things comparatively about war and then every side is talking holy wars and war has always been with us in our modern times, even with their new technology. i really wanted to wrestle with it. it was a wrestling. i had to try to figure some things out for myself on some questions i hadn't asked. >> vietnam is not a focus of your book. why? >> it is not a focus of the book because there was simply not space to do it. the vietnam figures and that's one of the major "cultures of war". it is mentioned in passing and a number of ways. vietnam figures in both as a place where you deliberately target, targeted noncombat. vietnam figures
in iraq. just a disastrous failure of intelligence upon the united states. and so then you have got pearl harbor which was a japanese tag correctly brilliant strategic idiotic thing. you have the war of choice of the islamist and america is doing a war of choice. so i'm a historian and i wanted to understand, does not all the same but i wanted to see how you could do things comparatively about war and then every side is talking holy wars and war has always been with us in our modern times, even...
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i focus mostly on iraq but there the failure of intelligence on our part was extraordinary. why? i was trying to think of this over time but it makes you think comparatively in ways that make people uncomfortable. buzz when you go backwards you go back to world war ii and at one point* and the book by end up at the philippines in the turn-of-the-century and the early 1900's and the rhetoric was there i have a line if you went to find day goes behind the ghostwriters come and go back to the rhetoric or the language. to think about war as a culture is very painful because the earlier and an age where we have technology that may change press somehow i doing at levels of the individual and the institution and. in the end i came apart talking about the concepts of the institutional bureaucrat dysfunction. very, very hard things to wrestle with and took a long time but that is where it ended. >> host: speaking of george bush, have you or will you be reading "decision points" or the chapters on afghanistan or i iraq? >> guy read very fair extensively his memoirs by everybody investigati
i focus mostly on iraq but there the failure of intelligence on our part was extraordinary. why? i was trying to think of this over time but it makes you think comparatively in ways that make people uncomfortable. buzz when you go backwards you go back to world war ii and at one point* and the book by end up at the philippines in the turn-of-the-century and the early 1900's and the rhetoric was there i have a line if you went to find day goes behind the ghostwriters come and go back to the...
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i went to iraq later on on and off after the ev mission in 2003. just covering the events and watching everything more or less fall apart has been far from my experience in afghanistan and iraq. >> so this book has been about nine years in the making? >> yeah, that book is drawn from reporting that goes from 2001 to about 2006-2007. yeah, and it took a few years to write and get out into the market, so yeah, it's about a decade of my life. >> where did you come up with the title, quote kuhl every man in this village is a lawyer"? >> it comes from afghanistan. the was a phrase someone said to me before i went to afghanistan, every man in this village is a liar. it derived from an old greek paradox, where the person who says i think it is actually all of the cree tins are lawyers the the person who says a is a creetin so it is and logical possibility that if he is telling the truth he's lying. i use it because it seems the elusive nature of the truth in war and the difficulty of reporting in a war zone. village in some ways, it's a global village as
i went to iraq later on on and off after the ev mission in 2003. just covering the events and watching everything more or less fall apart has been far from my experience in afghanistan and iraq. >> so this book has been about nine years in the making? >> yeah, that book is drawn from reporting that goes from 2001 to about 2006-2007. yeah, and it took a few years to write and get out into the market, so yeah, it's about a decade of my life. >> where did you come up with the...
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i would say the same thing about iraq. i do not think we should be fighting these wars in distant countries. the full scale counterinsurgency wars. i just think it makes no sense. so my answer would be, i think we should in a perfectly reasonable way withdraw. we should do our best to make -- you know, to help make the situation as reasonably as stable as possible and possible plans for doing this which i won't go into here, but i think the answer is, we should withdraw. we should defend what really matters to us and we should put our money where it does matter because the truth is -- the problem, the real problem here is that while we're putting our money into those wars, we are weakening at home. in all sorts of ways that truly matter. our infrastructure is going. i mean, look at the unemployment in this country. it's rather startling -- i mean, this country is in a state of incipient and increasing decline. there can't be any doubt that it was pushed over that edge by these two wars. i mean, one war was an utter war of
i would say the same thing about iraq. i do not think we should be fighting these wars in distant countries. the full scale counterinsurgency wars. i just think it makes no sense. so my answer would be, i think we should in a perfectly reasonable way withdraw. we should do our best to make -- you know, to help make the situation as reasonably as stable as possible and possible plans for doing this which i won't go into here, but i think the answer is, we should withdraw. we should defend what...
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iraq is the core example of this logic before our invasion in march 2003, iraq never experienced the suicide attack in its history. and as you can see, the suicide attacks mount up until 2007 and then they come down into big steps. first in 27,208 and then again from a weight on down. why? why did they come down in this way? and let me explain each of the two steps. first, from 2007 and 2008, most people would instinctively say the surge, we put in more troops and putting in more troops is what brought down. well, let's take a look at that. these are the numbers of troops in iraq or the pentagon bb numbers and looking in september of six to september await. look at the total number of u.s. and coalition troops in iraq. they actually go down during the surge. why? because while we were putting in 20,000 troops, our allies were leaving faster. were essentially for the country as a whole backfilling for our allies leaving. today seem i say wait a minute, maybe they were distributed in a certain way. the key thing is to know about suicide terrorism is that all the suicide terrorism in ir
iraq is the core example of this logic before our invasion in march 2003, iraq never experienced the suicide attack in its history. and as you can see, the suicide attacks mount up until 2007 and then they come down into big steps. first in 27,208 and then again from a weight on down. why? why did they come down in this way? and let me explain each of the two steps. first, from 2007 and 2008, most people would instinctively say the surge, we put in more troops and putting in more troops is what...
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>> i can talk to what i experienced in iraq. that is units are limited in the amount of media that they can bring in. and it's not -- you can't apply a universal template, different units have different capabilities. it's just the way of the world. and sometimes, there are situations beyond a control, such as weather that prevent transportation of media personnel and journalist into those formations and things. so what i'm saying is that there are probably very good reasons for why this is happened. not having been there, you know, i'm not a part of that have chain of command. so i can't talk to what's going on in afghanistan. i will tell you that i tried as a pao to facilitate as many embeds as i possibly could. i always tried to work with the journalist to the best of my ability. most of the time, we could do that. i was fortunate that my higher headquarters gave me the leeway to work directly with journalist to try to solve the problems and the -- not so much the problems, but the challenges in terms of getting them into our
>> i can talk to what i experienced in iraq. that is units are limited in the amount of media that they can bring in. and it's not -- you can't apply a universal template, different units have different capabilities. it's just the way of the world. and sometimes, there are situations beyond a control, such as weather that prevent transportation of media personnel and journalist into those formations and things. so what i'm saying is that there are probably very good reasons for why this...
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to rejuvenates iraq's leal ministry. however, 20 years of the embargoes and sanctions mean there is very little experience in iraq with the iraqi people within the ioc. what are they doing it or need to do to ensure their efforts are coordinated and complementary in putting iraq back to its rightful place both as an oil producer and a powerful ally in the middle east? >> very thoughtful question. i think it touches on a lot of dimensions of our industry. that are probably misunderstood as a certain degree. many of the ioc and resource holders, when you think about the importance, generally a lot of technical people, not a lot of military strategists or security people employed in these companies, and i think what is very important to understand is long-term stability is very important energy development. so it is price stability, capital to the market, security, stability to create transport sectors and infrastructure sectors to support anything from roads, bridges, pipelines, power, your name at. that'll takes people. p
to rejuvenates iraq's leal ministry. however, 20 years of the embargoes and sanctions mean there is very little experience in iraq with the iraqi people within the ioc. what are they doing it or need to do to ensure their efforts are coordinated and complementary in putting iraq back to its rightful place both as an oil producer and a powerful ally in the middle east? >> very thoughtful question. i think it touches on a lot of dimensions of our industry. that are probably misunderstood as...
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president, 2002, 2003, you 0 contemplated the possibility of military action against iraq. it was asserted by many intelligence agencies that he had weapons of mass destruction and programs to build them as he had done in the past. some of that information turned out to be wrong. how did that happen, and does it, in retrospect, would that have changed your point of view, your decision on the iraq military action? >> yeah. michael, that's one of thosehose questions that i just didn't have the luxury of answering. in other words, i can try to answer it, but it just didn't happen that way, and this book lays out how history unfolded.ur i mean, i laid out a doctrine that said, the bush doctrine, that in order to protect the country, we had to be on theorde offense, we had to hold people to account who harbored terrorists, and we had to deal with threats before they fully materialized.ll that's one of the lessons of the attack of september 11th. plus, we would spread freedom as an alternative to the ideology of those who murder thetern innocent. and the world saw sa doom hussein
president, 2002, 2003, you 0 contemplated the possibility of military action against iraq. it was asserted by many intelligence agencies that he had weapons of mass destruction and programs to build them as he had done in the past. some of that information turned out to be wrong. how did that happen, and does it, in retrospect, would that have changed your point of view, your decision on the iraq military action? >> yeah. michael, that's one of thosehose questions that i just didn't have...
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nonfiction category for cultures of war, pearl harbor from hiroshima, 9/11 and iraq. .. >> i wasn't doing it for theatrics but i have a brand new fit. [applause] >> i loved it. but the rest of the body has caught up. we go slow. nobody is moderating us. we are just talking. >> we are talking about frederick douglass, libraries, literacy and liberation. >> absolutely. let me start with literacy. because a want other people to know about it what we did. i am interested obviously in literacy. i am impressed with what recently discovered which was that this country is unique in the world in terms of the distribution of libraries throughout the country. you cannot go in rural areas in europe or in africa or in asia. rural areas the way you can hear which, a little town. not to speak of the huge university library that jumps out of nowhere in indiana or someplace. in pennsylvania you go 100 miles and there is this enormous university was more books than cambridge. it is an extraordinary thing. the other thing is about literacy, which i am interested in, is on the one hand the power of reading a
nonfiction category for cultures of war, pearl harbor from hiroshima, 9/11 and iraq. .. >> i wasn't doing it for theatrics but i have a brand new fit. [applause] >> i loved it. but the rest of the body has caught up. we go slow. nobody is moderating us. we are just talking. >> we are talking about frederick douglass, libraries, literacy and liberation. >> absolutely. let me start with literacy. because a want other people to know about it what we did. i am interested...
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i don't think i view the iraq example the same way that you do. that is it does seem to me that one of the costs of iraq is paying for the diminished interest by the united states and the accelerated drawdown of the forces on lack of interest the obama administration has taken in iraq is a very powerful trend which is post secretary and political organization that we saw in iraq over the course if of the year before the election. it's much more brittle now. yet sunni support although he isn't sunni lots of candidates of the opportunity, even the british candidates moving beyond secretary in polls of voters i think was an extraordinarily positive find that the water is receding now. .. horrible range of reasons, including target and assassination. i think what is consistent in pashtun areas of the country, not entirely even pashtun areas, politics remain very local, so the power brokers, the tribal leaders tend to be very localized. and what you see in a rage of areas with fewer sides in the western out the guys in the south, judges and the chinese
i don't think i view the iraq example the same way that you do. that is it does seem to me that one of the costs of iraq is paying for the diminished interest by the united states and the accelerated drawdown of the forces on lack of interest the obama administration has taken in iraq is a very powerful trend which is post secretary and political organization that we saw in iraq over the course if of the year before the election. it's much more brittle now. yet sunni support although he isn't...
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by essentially accepting the view that petraeus' surge in the iraq had solved the problem. by sticking to bush's plans on a so-called withdrawal from iraq without bringing about any change there at all. by pushing these plans through which are essentially very simple, withdrawing combat unit from the main cities of iraq, building huge military bases in that country and keeping between 50 and 70,000 troops there permanently. that is what the withdrawal is, and it's not new. the british tried it in the '20s and '30s, exactly the same plan, and it imploded when there was a revolution in iraq in 1958, and they had to, they threw the british out. and it's very likely in some shape and form, not in the shape and form of the '50s, but a similar thing will happen if these troops stay in there. on iran, once again this administration has carried on with the old policies essentially in the case of iran appealing the israelis because the big pressure for not doing any deal with iran both on the nuclear question and generally on other issues comes from the israelis who are prepared to
by essentially accepting the view that petraeus' surge in the iraq had solved the problem. by sticking to bush's plans on a so-called withdrawal from iraq without bringing about any change there at all. by pushing these plans through which are essentially very simple, withdrawing combat unit from the main cities of iraq, building huge military bases in that country and keeping between 50 and 70,000 troops there permanently. that is what the withdrawal is, and it's not new. the british tried it...
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iraq and afghanistan has not been pretty. that's why it's so important that we have aggressive, independent, quality oversight with hundreds of billions of dollars at stake, there's no room for error, and no time to delay. we are having this hearing today because a frank, open, and on the record discussion is imperative to adequate oversight going forward, and to make sure that we protect the men and women in uniform in the contingency theater and also protect the american taxpayer. i look forward to the hearing of the testimony of our witnesses today in providing general fields the opportunity to address the subcommittee's concerns. i will now defer to my colleague, senator browne. >> thank you, well said. i'd like to specifically thank you for scheduling this hearing on this topic. this is the second hearing i participated in on this very important topic. as general petraeus stated in his contract, the scale of our contracting in afghanistan represent opportunity and a danger. with proper oversight, contracting can spur eco
iraq and afghanistan has not been pretty. that's why it's so important that we have aggressive, independent, quality oversight with hundreds of billions of dollars at stake, there's no room for error, and no time to delay. we are having this hearing today because a frank, open, and on the record discussion is imperative to adequate oversight going forward, and to make sure that we protect the men and women in uniform in the contingency theater and also protect the american taxpayer. i look...
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they have been getting the material about activities in afghanistan and iraq and the war on terrorism. it's quite remarkable. and i think i would be remiss if i did not thank them. and they did in the forward to my book but, you know, tom johnson and bob hennig and a host of other nsa historians literally made my job so much easier. it basically allowed me, i spent 25 years piecing together little bits of pieces of the nsa's history. and when nsa declassified for my book, literally it was like everything opened up. everything, all the little pieces i've been thinking leading for over two decades suddenly became clear. it was only when nsa began declassifdeclassifying this material, beginning in the late 1990s, i was able to write this book in a cogent and organized fashion. before that my book was basically, the entire order of battle of nsa. i knew where every officer had been, office names. in other words, it would have bored all of you to tears if i had -- no publish would have published it. but any rate, the book itself also, thanks to dr. johnson and the other nsa historians, i t
they have been getting the material about activities in afghanistan and iraq and the war on terrorism. it's quite remarkable. and i think i would be remiss if i did not thank them. and they did in the forward to my book but, you know, tom johnson and bob hennig and a host of other nsa historians literally made my job so much easier. it basically allowed me, i spent 25 years piecing together little bits of pieces of the nsa's history. and when nsa declassified for my book, literally it was like...
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invasion of iraq. i don't know if you can get back to that, but certainly you can include iran in all the various multilateral discussions that are going to be held, and we should do that. >> thank you, barbara. and now we open the floor to questions, so who would like to start? please wait for the microphone and, please, identify yourself for the record. thank you. >> richard -- [inaudible] with the national foreign trade council. you mentioned that afghanistan as one of the two wars -- [inaudible] extending the views relative to -- [inaudible] >> barbara, if i may just repeat the question for our television viewers. what about the war in iraq? >> sure. i actually didn't go into iraq in this brief, that might be a topic for a second one. iraq is, it's interesting, and everyone's always said, well, of course the iranians got a lot of influence when we got rid of saddam, and that's true, but i think the iranians are tearing their hair out about iraq right now too. i remember getting an e-mail from an ac
invasion of iraq. i don't know if you can get back to that, but certainly you can include iran in all the various multilateral discussions that are going to be held, and we should do that. >> thank you, barbara. and now we open the floor to questions, so who would like to start? please wait for the microphone and, please, identify yourself for the record. thank you. >> richard -- [inaudible] with the national foreign trade council. you mentioned that afghanistan as one of the two...
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the loss in iraq would mean a major blow to the security of the united states. it would have meant that the sacrifices that had gone on prior to that moment would be in vain. wimbledon enemies in sending shockwaves throughout the middle east. i have always believed in the universality of democracy. freedom exists and everybody sold. if we can get the right strategy to bring security in place then people would be given a chance to express their desire to live in a free society. the problem is that the politics -- we push politics first. we are very successful initially in terms of the constitutionality. but the comes a point where democracy could not take hold. i decided it was just -- it would have been catastrophic, as far as i was concerned. i asked my national security adviser to get some options. it took awhile to implement. i walked the reader through why. >> but you talk about changing your mind on strategy in the spring. >> beginning during the spring. i needed to see options. >> the announcement comes in january of a seven. >> that's right. i needed to s
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you know, counterinsurgency efforts in afghanistan and iraq. one thing i wanted to do for us to share an update on the tragic story, but women also shows the media relationship in a very positive way. the tragedies of the veteran war shooting for "the new york times" was seriously injured saturday by stepping on a landmine. and if there's any silver lining to the tragedy. injured while in kandahar province. and so, that the show events are occurring and their print reporters to the areas where the fighting is very intense. that case shows that silva was not only treated very quickly by medics on the ground, but was brought to bagram airfield and then to grandstand air force in germany and ultimately on its way to walter reed medical center. so i'm told that, you know, that high-ranking officials in the pentagon were instrumental in making sure that he got the best medical care. on a broader level, general petraeus, another holder of the bush administration and a career army person, his coin manual describes the need to work with the media, allo
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navy ships and bases around the world, including desert camps in iraq and afghanistan. these are extraordinary groups. i'm really proud to -- i haven't been able to give them awards this week on behalf of the national book foundation. [applause] okay, just a couple more people to think here. we'll get through this. so thank you to my fellow board members, especially market in japan and lynn nesbitt, who are also dinner cochairs along with high about shelley ranger. they have completely transform this event in the last few years. a great thanks to them. they deserve laws. [applause] also, thank you to tina brown, "the daily beast" in st. john for sponsoring this event after party. somehow tina has found time to do this, including editing "newsweek" and everything else. thank you, tina. commack thank you to executive director into the outstanding shots at the national book foundation for all their hard work, making this evening possible. [applause] part of what makes this industry so much fun is the diversity of our publishers. and you can see that tonight this year's fin
navy ships and bases around the world, including desert camps in iraq and afghanistan. these are extraordinary groups. i'm really proud to -- i haven't been able to give them awards this week on behalf of the national book foundation. [applause] okay, just a couple more people to think here. we'll get through this. so thank you to my fellow board members, especially market in japan and lynn nesbitt, who are also dinner cochairs along with high about shelley ranger. they have completely...
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and then suddenly we have a war of choice against iraq. and then we have a terrific failure of intelligence in iraq, just a disastrous failure of intelligence on on the part of the united states. and so then you've got pearl harbor which was a japanese tactical, tactically brilliant, strategically idiotic thing. you have the war of choice of the islamists, then america's doing a war of choice. so i'm a historian, and i wanted to understand it's not all the same. but i wanted to see how you could do, think comparatively about war and then every side is talking holy wars. and war's always been with us in our modern times, even with our new technologies. and i really wanted to wrestle with it. it was a wrestling -- i had to try to figure some things out for myself, questions i hadn't asked. >> host: vietnam is not a focus of your book. whysome. >> guest: it's not a focus of the book because there was simply not space to do it. vietnam figures in the as one of the major cultures of war. it's mentioned in passing in a number of ways. vietnam fi
and then suddenly we have a war of choice against iraq. and then we have a terrific failure of intelligence in iraq, just a disastrous failure of intelligence on on the part of the united states. and so then you've got pearl harbor which was a japanese tactical, tactically brilliant, strategically idiotic thing. you have the war of choice of the islamists, then america's doing a war of choice. so i'm a historian, and i wanted to understand it's not all the same. but i wanted to see how you...
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his withdrawal from iraq at the end of the combat mission was supposed to happen in 14 months. the deadline got kicked out. in afghanistan when the military can and asked for more troops he gave them more troops. when they asked for more after that he complained about being asked for more troops and gave them more troops. we will see what happens if general petraeus comes in and asks metaphorically for a feared bite at the apple as july approaches and request for more troops it will be for more time. i think that will be tough. but i would argue that one of the affects of this election we just had, and the new calendar that leads to a presidential election in 2012 will be -- what you might call the real polarization of american foreign policy. there is now in the next 23 months every incentive for republican critics of the president's foreign policy and there are plenty of them out there for plenty of good reason to sharpen those critiques. reasons for substitutes and political, and i think we are going to see that in two or three areas. one of them will clearly be the most imp
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. >> guest: in iraq my feeling is that we shouldn't have gone into iraq at all after 9/11 because it took the attention away from afghanistan and bin laden. and it, it was a recruitment boon for the terrorists when we went into iraq. and it also convinced a lot of people in the muslim community that we were not just anti-terrorist, we were anti-muslim because we had gone against -- we invaded a muslim country that wasn't actually, they didn't perpetrate 9/11. >> host: now, on the back of your book, former inspector general of the cia and author of "why spy" who's been on booktv, by the way, writes this: susan hasler cuts too close to the bone of real life politicalization of intelligence. >> guest: uh-huh. >> host: is it pretty politicized? >> guest: it has -- i feel that most of the people that i worked with have a pretty strong work ethic in that they do not want to politicize intelligence. i mean, our job, i think -- i can't remember which former directer, it might have been colby, said our job is to be the skunk at the garden party. we tell policymakers things they don't want to
. >> guest: in iraq my feeling is that we shouldn't have gone into iraq at all after 9/11 because it took the attention away from afghanistan and bin laden. and it, it was a recruitment boon for the terrorists when we went into iraq. and it also convinced a lot of people in the muslim community that we were not just anti-terrorist, we were anti-muslim because we had gone against -- we invaded a muslim country that wasn't actually, they didn't perpetrate 9/11. >> host: now, on the...
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the military or the politicians say we have a nuclear weapon in iraq and they know it's not true and they keep doing it. and so, it's kind of like a lot of lies and like all the politicians, they are all kind of lying about themselves and everybody knows they're lying. but it's kind of a lot of dishonesty and a lot of dysfunction and just regular culture. and it's like we can even say i heard. like men aren't supposed to be heard as much as other people. and so, somehow this historical trauma, stuff that's going on today. it's kind of interesting vietnam, people there are opening up and talking and sharing with us. and so, some of us can share back and do some healing. but a lot of times they think there is so much cultural lying, cultural brainwashing where were not honest and we don't talk straight. we don't even share who we are really because we're wondering what other people think we are or other people are trying to make us think or something. or we're not even worth stealing and there's nobody they are. or my humanities en masse is financial poverty that's dysfunction. and it'
the military or the politicians say we have a nuclear weapon in iraq and they know it's not true and they keep doing it. and so, it's kind of like a lot of lies and like all the politicians, they are all kind of lying about themselves and everybody knows they're lying. but it's kind of a lot of dishonesty and a lot of dysfunction and just regular culture. and it's like we can even say i heard. like men aren't supposed to be heard as much as other people. and so, somehow this historical trauma,...
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where the president, remember obama was against the iraq war before the afghan war that was a good war where terrorism really was producing to be eager to win. but yet here is a general and obama does not care. i would suggest one reason he may be in different is he does not want to win. would if he feels a iraq and afghanistan are wars of colonial occupation they are occupied the same way british occupied can you? it is not about fighting terrorism but the rogue elephant grabbing what it can then his goal is not to win but figure out a way to get out. he would see the lead article a few days it ago karzai entering into negotiations with the taliban. i first thought these afghans, you cannot trust them leave them alone they will negotiate their trying to make a comeback. horrible karzai is featuring america fast forward with the front-page headline the obama administration supports and has been helping to orchestrate the meetings between karzai a and the taliban. it is encouraging the karzai government to meet with the enemy plug in the theory that obama wants to get out does not care
where the president, remember obama was against the iraq war before the afghan war that was a good war where terrorism really was producing to be eager to win. but yet here is a general and obama does not care. i would suggest one reason he may be in different is he does not want to win. would if he feels a iraq and afghanistan are wars of colonial occupation they are occupied the same way british occupied can you? it is not about fighting terrorism but the rogue elephant grabbing what it can...