michele bock and did not run a great presidential campaign. but i think that she got a lot of scrutiny that she felt was not something that any of the other candidates would have faced. perez de attention to rick perry's back surgery than there -- there was less attention to rick perrry's back surgery than there were to a story about her headaches and her migraines. there is a sensitivity to how women get treated and hillary clinton would be the standard for that. i don't know what it would have been like if she ran this year as opposed to 2000. they focus on her looks, her past, her way. it is daunting. >> for some question, i write a woman's magazine, and when people listen to me, they go, what is with their hair? how would i know? gosh we heard that josie told her to grow our hair. >> i have this conversation with a friend of mine, talking about how she was presenting some of that and they talked about her hair and she said, scott. -- stop. just stop. she is an actor is that had a hit series at one time several years ago, and she always loo