thank you very much. the washington post called that idea a declaration of all out war. let's get to chuck todd. good morning to you. you're going to take a bit of a contrary position to conventional wisdom this morning. you don't think it's inevitable that the government shuts down tonight? >> whenever there's time on the legislative clock something could happen. what john boehner has going on inside among house republicans is while there are that small band of loud conservatives that are wanting to not cave and not give in to anything. do whatever it takes to stop the healthcare law, there is a growing chorus ofoderate republicans telling boehner don't do this. you remember how bad this was for the republican party 20 years ago. what are you doing? you're putting the majority at risk and boehner has a couple of options, savannah. he could blink as far as buy time and do a clean funding bill for one week. anything is possible when there's time on the clock.

so we should be careful assuming we're car reening toward the end. >> well it seems to me this all comes down to who thinks they will get the blame for a shuttown. f shutdown. for 17 years it's been that the republicans paid for the shutdown in the 90s but new republicans aren't sure that's true. >> they say healthcare was more unpopular than anything debated in the mid 90s. they think this is a different time t. way people get their information is different so it won't be just the big, bad mainstream media controlling the narrative. there's a lot of reasons they think things will be different this time but there's one article of faith that i always put my analysis in when you see the show downs. which party is united and which party isn't? democrats are united and republicans are fighting so that's why you have to assume at

some point boehner is going to blink. is it today or does he allow the government to shutdown for a few days and then blink. >> thank you. special coverage all this week on air and online to answer your questions about the affordable care act as it takes effect. >> thank you. bill o'reilly is the host of the o'reilly factor on fox news and the author of a book called killing jesus. we'll talk about that. good to see you. >> is it really? is it really good to see me? come on. >> it's always good to see you. come midnight, is the government going to be up and running or shutdown? >> i don't know. this is why people don't like national politics because these pin heads -- there's sincerity on both sides but they should get something done. they should extend the government funding for three to four weeks and sit down and hash this thing out. that's what should happen. that's not hard.

>> they should get something done. every expert you talk to says this will be bad for the country, both sides know that, and yet here we are standing on the edge of the cliff again. washington is addicted to crisis, why? >> well, the democrats have to stand by their guy president obama and that's his signature achievement but if the president were thinking clearly he would say, you know what, we may have some things to iron out here. i still stand behind obamacare and i want the healthcare but we might have some problems here. so let's give the people an option for a year. you don't have to sign up, if you want to you can. problem solved. >> by the latest count there's been something like 40 efforts in the house to get rid of obamacare or defund it and as john mccain said last week we fought a great fight. we lost that fight. the supreme court has upheld obamacare as constitutional. do you think the republicans should move on? >> no.

it's a bad deal for the folks. that's absurd. >> it's the law of the land. >> they can tweak it lauer. they can tweak it and make it better. right now it's hurting the economy. doctors say they're going to quit. nobody knows what they're going to pay. here's the solution, you want to sign up, good, sign up, starting tomorrow. if you don't, we'll give you a year to shake it down. that's the solution. and the republicans would buy into that. >> taking obamacare out of this for a second and getting back to this addiction to crisis in washington, do we play into this as members of the media? do we fan the fire? >> we have to report what's going on but t politicians use us, but i don't like to be put in with you lauer. >> sorry to do that with you. >> ted cruz is a great example. he wants to be president so he's the first term senator from texas. how does he get well-known?

he gets this. he blows it up. everybody knows his name. everybody is paying attention to him. >> we cover it. >> now he's a leader in the republican party for conservative people. people use the system and they're smart enough, cruz say smart guy, to know how to do that. not saying he's not sincere. he is but he's certainly exploiting the situation. so there you have it. >> despite what you think it is good to have you here and you'll come back in the 8:00 half hour and we'll talk about your new book "killing jesus". >> you'll like it. >> i have liked it. >> you read it? >> yeah, three in a row for me. let's get to the deadly plane crash in california. good morning everyone. the ntsb investigating the fiery crash in california after a small plane ran off the run way and slammed into a hanger. mike is in santa monica with the very latest. good morning. >> good morning, natalie. officials say they don't know yet how many people were aboard this 8-seat jet when it crashed into a hanger at santa monica

airport late yesterday afternoon but they did call the crash unsurvivab unsurvivable. >> we were playing baseball down behind the house and heard a boom. >> according to the federal aviation administration, the twin engine similar to this one took off from haley, idaho last night and veered off the run way and crashed into a hanger and caught fire. >> the runway is not accessible at this time. >> unit three, we had a citation run off the end of the runway there. we haven't responded to them. we need you there immediately. >> you felt like it could have been put out with a fire extinguisher and there was an explosion. >> firefighters battled the blaze but were unable to get to the wreckage. >> it caused the hanger to collapse and during the collapse the sheet metal wrapped itself around the plane and was incasing it and to get that off is going to take awhile. >> reporter: it prevented officials from providing information on the number of people on board or their

conditions. >> we didn't see anyone get out of the airplane unfortunately. >> now this airport is located in the coastal tourist destination of santa monica. the airport home to many planes used by major figures from business and the entertainment industry. more information later in the day. all right, mike, thank you so much. president obama will meet with izrali prime minister today. it is expected to focus on the future stability of the middle east and u.s. and syria. he is expected to deliver strong word of caution on how the u.s. deals with iran. >> chuck hagel visited the demilitarized zone in north korea today. it's his first visit. he is in south korea to discuss whether to extend america's wartime control over south korea's armed forces. an american daredevil pulled

off a spectacular stunt this weekend. jeb corliss flew through a narrow opening in china. 60 feet wide at the top and 11 feet wide at the bottom. after a heavy landing he said it was exhilarating. he said it was the most spectacular and scary stunt he had ever done. he was about two feet away from the wall. that was a hard landing all right. deployed that shoot just 300 feet above ground. >> you can make it through the 60 foot gap in the mountain but hung up on a railing on the walk way. >> the exact word he used was narly. >> i would have used a different word. >> we wouldn't have done it. >> exactly. >> you have storms in the pacific northwest. >> we were telling you about this was going to happen friday. sure enough it did. take a look at the rain. the heavy floods in parts of oregon, washington washington state, heavy, heavy rain and it

is continuing today. we are talking about massive amounts of rain, flooding, power o outages. high winds. in parts of the pacific northwest, we're talking about record amounts of rainfall falling. you can see olympia almost 8 inches of rain. seattle wettest september on record across parts of oregon on into seattle and there's more rain on the way. you can see the heavy rain and in the mountains, the cascades, we're starting to see snow as well. we have winter weather advisories for the mountains there. 4 to 8 inches of snow there. wind gusts of 80 miles per hour and we're looking for another one to three inches of rain across the pacific northwest into the cascades. heavy winds, heavy rain and lots of flooding. [ corbett ] it's not every day that you find yourself at the corner of "a little flu shot" and "a world of difference." now through october 14th, when you get any immunization at walgreens, we'll help provide a lifesaving vaccine

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chapman is the host of a new television show and sat down for a rare interview with richard engle. good morning to you. >> good morning. this is a bit of a strange man. you remember her of course. u.s. officials accused her of being a honey trap sent to the united states to seduce powerful americans and send information back to moscow. she remains very secretive but certainly not camera shy. >> reporter: it was the biggest story of it's kind since the cold war. 10 russian spies living quitely in the united states uncovered and deported in 2010. among them, anna chapman, a sexy red head. the fbi recorded her transmitting electronic messages to russian handlers while shopping discussing a fake passport. anna who leaded guilty was a tabloid favorite.

a real life bond girl. dubbed the spy that loved us. after revealing photographs taken by her ex-husband came out she turned it into a modeling career posing for maxim magazine and walking the cat walk at moscow fashion shows and got her own tv show about aliens and ghosts called mysteries of the world. chapman agreed to sit down with a rare interview with nbc news to promote her television show. >> you lived a very mysterious life. one you still don't like talking about and now you're on television. does that seem strange to you? >> i'm a very private discreet person and i still don't do many interviews because i just don't like to share. and i don't believe that people would be interested in knowing about somebody's life. >> they would be interested in knowing about your life. >> but it's still very hard for me to believe this. >> going into the interview, chapman told us she considered

details of her personal life too sensitive to share and we found out how sensitive when we asked about a public marriage proposal she posted on twitter to edward snowden, the nsa programmer who escaped to russia after revealing classified details about american intelligence. >> online you recently tweeted a marriage proposal to edward snowden. >> i'm not going to discuss this. >> was it serious or a joke. >> richard. >> you can't discuss even something you tweeted online. you said, marry me, edward snowden. >> we're going to cut this. >> you can't talk about that? >> no. >> she walked out. the girl in red. still in the spotlight, but still an i nigam. >> in some ways it's ironic that she posts a television show about aliens and mysteries because the fbi investigation into her sleeper cell was code

named ghost stories. >> there's so much weird about this. so how long did you actually interview her before she walked out. >> probably 5 or 6 minutes. she didn't want to talk about her personal life or time in the united states and as soon as we started heading in that direction, the interview is over. i can't do this. i got the sense that somebody had told her don't go there. don't talk about this. >> interesting. but she was more than happy to promote the show. >> promote the show. >> i like how she said richard. >> did that work. >> it was one of the more bizarre interviews i've done. >> thank you, richard. >> al. >> thank you, matt. >> let us check in with carson who is in the orange room this morning. >> good morning, everybody. how y'all doing? a couple of big things happening in the overnight we're going to talk about. first of all, the potential looming government shut down. about 800,000 to 1 million federal workers could be out of work. we're asking you at today.com would a government shutdown

affect your family? yes, no, or not sure. also a ton of chatter about the breaking bad series finale last night. the thing about the finale is did it work, was it good? did you hate it? early results saying 80% said they loved the breaking bad finale which they said was perfect. we'll see how it stacked up a little bit later on. back to you. carson, thank you so much. >> straight ahead, the amanda knox murder case back in court in italy once again. her former boyfriend may go. what does he think about her not attending? we'll ask him in an exclusive interview. then the story behind one of the most dramatic photos to emerge from the terror attack at a kenyan mall. the rescue of an american girl. her family shares their story of survival. but first, this is "today" on nbc. "

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>> this is the wbal tv 11 news in baltimore. >> good morning. i am stan stovall. firefighters till 11 news that everybody made it out ok a building after a fire broke out just after 3:00 this morning in a group of buildings on york road near cold spring lane. no one was hurt. the fire in north baltimore did damaged several buildings. the scenemonitoring for hotspots in investigating the cause of the fire. here is sarah caldwell and traffic pulse 11. >> york road is now reopened in the area of cold spring lane. we have problems on eastbound 216. that is the latest accident in howard county. supper and 97, the ramp to 32. -- southbound 87, the ramp 32. 13 miles per hour traveling southbound on 97. pedestrian-involve crash.

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good morning, everyone. it's 7:30 on a monday morning, the 30th of september, 2013. there on our wall you see some of the pretty sunsets folks have

sent in. >> sunrise. >> oh, yeah, sunrise. although do we accept sunsets? >> no. >> in a goes on nightly news with brian williams. >> make sure they're mesound. #today sunrise, not sunset. >> you can keep your sunset. >> anyway, what do we have coming up this morning? >> let's look at the stories making headlines. the clock ticking toward a midnight deadline to avoid a government shut down. an agreement might not be reached in time. >> meantime, investigators are on the scene of a deadly accident at the santa monica airport this morning, a private jet veered off a run way and into a hanger killing everyone on board. >> and more storms are targeting the northwest after a weekend of record setting rains and high winds. >> also straight ahead, a remarkable story of survival. an american pop and her five children at the mall in kenya when it was attacked are with us.

>> we begin with the retrial of amanda knox and her ex-boyfriend over the killing of her british roommate. we'll talk to raffaelle sollecito this morning. keith has more on the trial. good morning to you. >> good morning. two judges and six jurors will hear this case right from the beginning. the defendants continuing to claim their innocence and this morning, the defense team requested that the forensic evidence be reevaluated. >> reporter: this is the third time that amanda knox will face trial for murder and violent sexual assault and may not be the last. the court ordered the appeal of the not guilty verdict describing the ruling as full of deficiencies, contradictions and illogical conclusions and it called for a full review of all of the evidence. >> the question for me as an attorney is whether that evidence is now after so many years reliable.

whether the chain of custody was properly preserved. >> it was almost six years agatha knox and her former boyfriend raffaelle sollecito were accused of murdering meredith kercher, an exchange student from england. knox, appealing like the all american girl was accused of participating in a drug fuelled sex game gone wrong. she was found not guilty on appeal after serving four years in prison. knox is not required to attend court and she told matt last week she can't face more time behind bars. >> i was already imprisoned as an incident person in italy and i can't reconcile the choice to go back with that experience. it's not a possibility. it is -- it was imprisoned as an innocent person and i just can't relive that. >> reporter: the victim's family welcomes the appeal convinced, along with italy's supreme

court, that the one man convicted of the crime, did not act alone. this trial could last a year, maybe more and even then the knox saga may not be over. more appeals are possible. leaving the knox case in a sort of legal ping-pong and nobody knowing when it could end -- when it will finally end, savannah. keith miller, thank you. raffaelle sollecito is with us exclusively and his u.s. attorney joins me in the studio. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. it's a pleasure to be here. >> well, it's good to talk to you again. we have talked in the past and i just wondered, you are obviously not in italy this morning. do you plan to attend this trial. >> yes. i do. i will be back when the trial gets into the core. >> so you plan to attend and if called to testify, you would testify? >> if they ask me to testify, i

will do that. it's the decision of the court for me to testify or not. i cannot make that decision by myself. >> what is it like for you to have this all starting over again? prosecutors once again standing up in court and saying that you and amanda knox had something to do with meredith kercher's murder? how does that feel? >> it seems to be pretty never ending saga of nightmare. my life is still on hold and i cannot move on. i cannot make plans for my future. i don't see -- actually i don't see any real future for me instead of standing in the trial kind of forever. they destroyed my life once and they are still going to destroy

my life in this period as well. >> amanda has told us she does not plan to go back to italy for the trial. do you agree with that decision? do you understand it? >> i understand it. and it's her decision. she can make the decision that she wants. >> i'm always struck raffaelle by the fact that when this all happened you had known amanda just seven days. do you ever think about that? reflect on it? and frankly do you wish you had never crossed paths with her? >> no, actually, as i told many other times, i never regret it because it's not her fault what is happening. what is happening, it's a big, huge mistake against two human beings. we are innocent and we are fighting for our innocence.

it's not our fault to be in this situation. actually, i don't regret to have met her because she had nothing to do with all of this tragedy and me neither. >> before i let you go, raffaelle, do you fear that you will be sent back to jail? >> well, i don't know what to expect, actually. i still live in a nightmare. they put me in jail again, they still hold me in jail because actu actually anything else in this trial. >> well, raffaelle sollecito we will continue to watch it. as i turn to your lawyer here, what happens next? no matter what this court decides, is that it? is it over? >> there's no finality here.

it's going to go back up to the supreme court again and probably back down again too. it's a never ending nightmare. >> thank you so much. we appreciate it. we'll take a turn now and get a check of the weather from al. >> savannah, thank you. we have been talking about all the rain in the pacific northwest and it's still coming down. it has been raining quite a bit the last week down in southern florida but the good news is as you look, you can see a gorgeous sunrise and send your pictures, your sunrise pictures in, #todaysunrise. beautiful here in the northeast. week ahead, here's what we're looking for. more windy wet weather, snowy weather and above normal temperatures throughout the central part of the country. the midweek period, above normal temperatures. eastern half of the u.s. and below normal out west and the latter part of the week, more wet weather out west and temperatures stay >> good morning. it should turn out to be a

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nairobi kenya. more than a week later, new imagines reveal the aftermath of the four day siege. one of the most striking photos shows a 4-year-old american girl being rescued. she was at the mall with her mom catherine and her four other siblings. they're with us along with catherine's husband phillip. good morning to all of you. >> good morning. >> catherine, i want to start with you. i was reading about your experience last night and what struck me, what jumped out at me is the fact that you were at the mall with five children yet you were separated from two children. you had your three girl with you. your two sons were in another part of the mall. that had to add a layer of horror to the experience. >> it was pretty stressful but i didn't realize it. i thought my boys were already to get out but they weren't. it wasn't until after i was rescued that i realized they had

been in there the entire time with me. >> where exactly were you catherine when the shooting started? were you in the open or in a store? describe your surroundings. >> i was standing out in front of the store and i was going to wait for my boys there and when the shooting broke out i ran and dove behind the little advertisement booth that they had there in front of the store. >> and you waiting there -- by the way, you were in the mall for four hours. our girls were very scared and upset. they were crying. so you also had to try and keep those girls calm. >> you know, they cried initially, just at the very beginning and then after that they got very quite and they laid very still and they almost like they went to sleep the entire time and it wasn't until they threw the tear gas in that they perked up a little bit and started complaining about the smell. >> catherine, when did you finally get reunited with your

sons? >> when i got out, as soon as i got out, my pastor was there to greet me and he was able to tell me that my boys were out and my husband's business partner was there as well and they scooped us all up and took us to a friend's house and we were able to be reunite there had with my boys. >> phillip, all this time you knew your family was in that mall, you were not in the mall. can you describe what you were going through emotionally knowing that this was unfolding? >> no, i was traveling in the u.s. i was in north carolina in a hotel room. i was trying to follow news reports as they came in. i had a close friend that was keeping me updated via facebook and it was -- you just feel very helpless when you're 9,000 miles away and your entire family is going through something like this. >> catherine, we always hear stories of people that run toward the danger, not away from it. of people that do their best to help out, total strangers, you

had a situation like that, didn't you. >> i sure did. abdul haji and a group of just regular men with some plain clothes police officers, they risked their lives. it wasn't just me. they went through the mall floor by floor and got so many people out of the mall. >> you had a chance to thank him i understand? >> i did. we got to meet him last night and it was such a wonderful reunion. >> we're glad you're all safe and i want to thank you for taking the time to tell us your story this morning. >> thank you. >> all right. here's savannah. >> all right, matt, thank you. coming up, bill o'reilly on his controversial new book about the life and death of jesus christ. but up next, what's buzzing in the orange room with carson? how angry are americans about ♪

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potential shutdown would effect your family and people are saying specifically, do i think a shutdown will impact my family? i know for sure it will. we teach our students to co compromise. why cannot our leaders. that effects at least our kids and the way they view government. we'll keep an eye on it this morning. back to you. >> wise words this morning. >> i like that. up next at 8:10, you will not believe the plot twist in the new bridget jones novel. this one has some fans, queue the ladies on our set, distraught. >> who is bridget jones? >> and this one is for you al, did "breaking bad" go out on a >> and this one is for you al, did "[ male announcer ]ut on a there's a story behind the silver of philadelphia cream cheese. it always begins with fresh local milk blended with real, wholesome cream. going fresh from the farm, to our fridge, in just six days. because we believe in fresh taste.

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>> still looking at a busy start your monday morning. we have an accident on the outer loop northeast side. busy spot with volume. at that this crash on the out of the past i-95 and watch for delays prior to 95. back up in allr, directions. jarrettsville area, crash at the 24. as you travel on belair road and slater avenue, we have an accident. another one at padonia tresssed east ridge road and joppa. that intersection. watch for closures due to an accident. the ramp to route 32, feel still being cleared up on the ramp. 31 miles per hour. east on 216, watch for closures due to an accident in howard county. north side is busier because the accident in the outer loop just passed 95. this is a look at the west side.

outer loop traffic going away from us. --s is an backing cap it impacting traffic on eastbound i-70. everyone.rning, quiet start weatherwise. a few high, thin clouds. later this morning and afternoon a slight chance of sprinkles. that won't be the case this morning. 50 at the airport, 52 in parkton. you might want to take a light jacket to start today. it will be mild this afternoon. i temperatures climb into the mid-70s. average high 72. three percent chance for maybe a sprinkle. most of you won't see rain. fanou are a summer weather you will like this. warm weather going to the end of the week. rain on sunday.

it's 8:00 on "today." coming up, time to move. william and kate get ready to bring prince george to their brand new home at kensington

palace. and bill o'reilly on what he learned about jesus writing his latest best seller. and breaking bad ended it's run last night. how did that show's finale stack up with some of the greats before it? we'll ask that question today, monday, september 30th, 2013. >> st. louis. >> 50 and fabulous. >> not even a wreck could keep me from "today." >> today's my 30th birthday and i want to meet savannah. happy birthday to you. >> we're back now at 8:00 on this monday morning. big crowd gathered in our plaza this morning. i'm wondering, as i stand here with savannah guthrie, carson daly and al roker, how many of these people were up last night watching the series finale of

"breaking bad." show of fhands here? >> did you watch breaking bad -- >> no spoiler alert. >> what happens is -- i would never do that. >> i didn't want to see it and i don't want to know. i'll probably take another year to catch up on episodes. >> what are you on season 2. >> people loved it. >> the hardcore fans were into the finale. >> when was the last time a finale got this response from it's fans. >> why think of one. >> newhart. >> one week from today miley cyrus will be here. we'll talk about her new music and her controversy and she will perform live on our plaza. miley cyrus next monday right here on "today". >> did you just say twerk it rs. >> twerk it. >> you better work on your twerk. >> i don't think so. >> work your twerk. you won't will you?

>> no. gosh no. >> just wanted to make sure. natalie has a check of the top stories. >> good morning to you guys once again and good morning everyone. despite a government shutdown looming at midnight they're set to reject the spending bill because it would delay part of the president's healthcare law. tom costello has more on the impact of the shutdown on government checks and the military. >> the irony is that shutting the government down is not ch p cheap. it will cost taxpayers millions of dollars. some federal agencies will feel the impact more acutely than others. the military will continue to operate but instead of paychecks those in uniforms could get ious to collect pay at a later day. that could change if congress elects to pay the military, still, civilian employees could

be furloughed. the fbi, dea, and federal courts will operate normally for a time but if the shutdown is longer than two weeks the courts would run out of reserve funds. since the post service is an independent agency, the mail will keep coming. most homeland security operations will continue but the fda would be unable to keep upmost of it's food safety oversight. hud would be shut down same with the department of interior which means the national parks would close and if you're coming to washington, the smithsonian museums and the zoo would be closed. the department of labor, energy, commerce and epa will shut down. some irs functions would cease but social security checks would still go out and veterans could see their benefits effected but medical services should

continue. >> one more irony is that obamacare, which is what all of this is about will continue to be implemented because they're not dependent on the congressional budget process and the longer the shutdown, the longer people go without paychecks, the greater the impact on the economy. >> tom costello, thank you so much, tom. the pacific northwest is reeling from fierce winds and rainfall. miguel almaguer is in seattle where the stormy weather isn't over yet. good morning. >> good morning. this area has been hit with a one-two punch. first it was rain but more recently it's been wind. we have wind gusts that have topped some 60 miles per hour toppling trees and power lines temporarily cutting off power to thousands but it was rain over the weekend that lead to some severe localized flooding. roads became rivers. it was a mess out here for the commute but this region is beginning to dry out a little bit. we do expect rain over the next several days but much of the

region is beginning to pick up and wash out. we do expect the heavy wind storms to continue for the next several days. miguel, thank you so much. the retrial of former american exchange student amanda knox got underway today in italy. knox spent four years behind bars for the 2007 murder of her roommate until they overturned the verdicts against her and her former boyfriend. now they ordered a new trial. knox is not required to appear in court and she says she will not return to italy. the vatican announced this morning that pope john paul ii will be declared a saint during the next ceremony. pope john paul iii will be sell evacuated to saint hood. >> it's begun it's journey from greece to the winter games in russia. an actress used the sun's rays to kindle the flame on sunday

and she passed it to the first of 14,000 relay runners that will carry it all the way to sochi for the opening ceremony on february 7th. about 130 days to go. at 8:06, let's go back outside to matt, savannah, carson, and al. guys. >> we'll be there. let's check in with mr. roker. >> hey, guys, we're over here. got some friends here -- this is your school -- the mascot is the vandals. >> it's the vandals. >> university of idaho. >> university of idaho. >> wow, in fact, here it is. this is the vandal right here. the guy that goes around graduat graffitiing things. that's fantastic. our friends in seattle has been getting dumped on. over the next three days things do get better. scattered showers by wednesday. 53 for the high temperature. and we're looking at afternoon temperatures today, warming up

in the midwest. look at this, chicago, 75 degrees. we take a look live right now, rigley field, you can see the sun coming up. looking good there in chicago. rest of the country, we're looking at sunny skies up and down the east coast. wet weather through the gulf. the rain continues in the pacific northwest. on the cool side from los >> good morning. the average high temperature is 72 degrees. we should be above that mark today. a mix of clouds and sun. we will put a 20% chance for and that's your latest weather. back to the guys. >> all right, al, thank you very

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flat seats, fancier meals and large tvs. so everything savannah has on her plane. the flight will take off next june. >> aren't you hilarious. >> jet blue made a name for itself as a airline that treats everybody equally. >> what's the price point. >> we don't have information on pricing yet. >> it's from new york to l.a. and new york to san francisco which is a very competitive route. >> if it was less than the average first class seat they might be on to something. >> it makes the average flyer feel like they're in first class it will be a success. they have to have the blue chips. >> they're known for good service. so people will pay more for that. >> trending on twitter, major spoiler alert. >> wait, wait. >> do we really want to do this? >> i don't want to do it to be honest. >> bridget jones. >> do you love that book. >> do you want to know how it ends? >> no, no interest.

i thought it was "breaking bad". >> honestly, they want us to tell -- >> you're not going to give the culmination of the next book but something that happens early in the book. it's devastating. if you love bridget jones, this is the time to go away and come back in 30 seconds. you have been warned. the newest book, mad about the boy, excerpts of it was published in a british newspaper and people, brace yourselves, natalie -- >> i'm bracing. >> mr. darcy -- mr. darcy dies. >> wasn't he in downton abbey. >> no, come on. >> colin firth, in the movie, played mr. darcy, he dies. >> how does he die? >> you have to read the book to find out. >> but of course immortalized by colin firth. >> well, jenna bush-hager just wrapped up an interview with the author and jenna asked her how

she broke the news to colin firth. >> i had a conversation with colin which was one of the strangest conversations i've ever had where hi to tell him that mark had died and i had to ask colin if he was sitting down, if he had someone with him and the way we were talking to each other was literally as if someone had died but then we kept sort of laughing because they hadn't. >> by the way, we'll have more of jenna's exclusive interview next week. >> that is if we don't die of sadness first. >> mr. darcy lives on. i'm sorry. >> wow. >> okay. >> try to get through it. >> trending on youtube, live from new york, saturday night, returning for it's 39th season with tina fey as the host. they added six new cast members and in what many are calling the best sketch of the night, tina playing an albania immigrant that joined the cast of "girls".

>> if you speak they will know you are simple. if they know you are simple they will drown you in river. i am very hungry. please, may i eat doughnut from your head? >> that is worth watching and rewatching. >> and it gets better. >> that's good. classic. that's what is trending today. >> wow. >> studio accident. >> nobody was hurt. straight ahead, bill o'reilly is here, daniel radcliffe is here and we have steals and deals. but first, bye bye breaking bad. it ended last night a week after winning the best drama emmy. was the time right? here's jason kennedy. >> it's over and i needed a proper good-bye. >> reporter: it was the final chapter in walter white's dark journey from high school teacher. >> it's growth and then decay and then transformation.

>> reporter: and beyond. a show that ended while still at the top of it's game. >> i'm in the empire business. >> reporter: which sets it apart from many other series finales and in the minds of critics like brett martin. >> two things happen. they either disappear completely or they're meant to go on forever because once it's making money you try to extend the story as long as it goes and it's rare that you get, you know, the kind of cultural event we have been seeing lately. >> reporter: other series have disappointed fans in later seasons by jumping the shark or going out with forgettable endings like sienfeld, lost. like bob newhart waking up or tony soprano cutting to black. >> does it live up to the hype. the soprano finale which i

happen to love, to this day, every single day, someone is asking me about it. >> a conversation we viewers don't want to end just because the show did. >> you invested in these shows for years. you invested in these characters and you're invested in these shows and you really don't know what you want to happen but you want something great to happen at the end. >> the end of "breaking bad" means he cooked his last batch of blue crystal but like bob, tony, jerry, and so many others before him, his legacy will be with us for many, many years to come. >> that's right. now, say my name. >> reporter: in los angeles, i'm jason kennedy for today. >> pretty amazing. >> people online say fans of the show, over 80% which is so rare for these series finales said they not just liked it, they loved it. >> they tied it up with a bow and a bang.

let's go to matt with bill o'reilly. >> he shared his thoughts on what's going on in washington earlier and now he has come back to talk about his new book. this one is called "killing jesus." already it's climbing to the best sellers list and way up on that list. good morning again. good to see you. were you dying to tell the story of jesus or are you looking at a list of controversial figures and checking them off. lincoln, kennedy, jesus? >> after kennedy we didn't know what we were going to do and i was batting around a few ideas of people i think we need to get into the center of it and one night i woke up, 3:00 in the morning, and this always happens to me and bang, "killing jesus." whenever i get a thought like that i take it seriously so we got it in motion. >> one of the reviews says the gospel according to o'reilly. give me a sense of what you were trying to do here. were you trying to create a historic reference or were you spinning a yard here or

somewhere in between. >> there's no yarn. we back it up pretty thoroughly. some of it is startling because it's not the traditional what you know about jesus. >> millions of catholics grew up hearing that jesus died for our sins. one of the other reviews i read about this book says according to your take jesus died for taxes. so you fill in the blank. what's the headline? >> the headline is jesus died for money. the romans killed him for money. however, if you're a believer and believe jesus is god, he died for your since. that's what the old testament pr proficies but the scripture is different. here's what jesus of nazareth did to tee them off. he interrupted the tax flow because the romans were taxing the folks by making them buy --

they had to buy lambs for the pa passover. there was a tax on it. you couldn't buy it unless there was a certain currency and when jesus went into the temple and overthrew the tables that's when his death sentence was proclaimed. >> any time you write a book like this people will take shots at the way you tell the stories. but i read the book also and i think this was an oversimplification. a criticism is you don't spend enough timealking about jesus and preaching that dealing with the poor and sharing with the underprivileged was the principle theme he lived by. >> i'm getting attacked by the antichristian people. they said because i was inspired i believe by the holy spirit to do all my work, not just this, they mock if he more that. the left wing blogs want me to bring obamacare into killing jesus. that's what they want me to do

and the evangelicals say i'm going to hell because i don't say jesus on every page. >> what was your up bringing? >> my parents weren't fanatics. irish catholic background. >> catholic school. >> i was an altar boy but for money. >> so your view is different than what you thought as a kid, how. >> i did it for money because you get paid for weddings when you're an altar boy. the big headline for me in "killing jesus" is jesus of nazareth is the most famous person that's ever lived. no structure, no country, no money, nothing. how does that happen? how does that happen? so something had to be going on with him, so that you have to

consider. >> and strategically have you messed up here? after lincoln and kennedy you go right to the top of the list? how do you take a step back for your next book? i would have thought this would have been your tenth book. >> well, i'm getting up there in age. >> don't know how many books you have left in you. >> nec book is a big world war ii book which is going to be stunning because we're writing it now and the research -- everybody has this image. this is what happened but that's not what happened and that's my job is to tell you what really happened. >> we'll expect you back for that one. >> you liked the book. >> i did. all three now. i read three for three. >> i appreciate that matt. >> good to see you. it's a pleasure. >> we'll go over to savannah. >> thank you so much. now to a milestone in the live of the duke and duchess of cambridge, they're preparing to move into their palace. michelle kosinski is at the other palace, buckingham, good morning to you. >> hey, savannah. kate became a duchess and princess when she married

william and now she gets the palace. insiders think it will be this week that the royal couple and baby move out of their cottage at kensington and into their grand apartment. >> reporter: it is called simply apartment 1-a but a palace in every sense. 20 rooms including receptions, staff quarters, nursery, private walled gardens and is likely to be furnished with antiques from the priceless royal collection. meredith got a look at the century's old inner sanctum years ago. >> kate has been overseeing the whole plan. she has been in charge of the decor and picking the curtains and the carpet. >> it's taken a long time and reportedly more than $2 million, much of it taxpayer money, to renovate what was once princess margaret's home. that meant installing a new

kitchen, all sure to be in perfect shape for the family in the same palace where william and harry grew up and were frequently naughty and shared happy memories. >> my room was right next door to the nursery. it was a very happy atmosphere t in the nursery and william will want to replicate that atmosphere where ever possible with his children. it will be fantastic. >> yeah, kind of like you guys turned studio 1-a into a palace. but also this month is the christening of baby prince george in the same place where queen elizabeth i prayed before battling the spanish armada and where princess diana's body lay for a week after she died. and they think there will be a tribute to diana during the christening. >> all right. michelle could s

michelle thank you so much. we have steals and deals discounts for our viewers. clothes and lipstick. jill martin not part of the deal there but she'll tell us about the deal. >> maybe. >> then daniel radcliffe on the >> this is wbal-tv 11 news in baltimore. >> good morning.

i am mindy basara. here is sarah caldwell. >> we are tracking a problem on 95 in the southbound direction. for the cv traveling on howard county, expect delays. as far as traffic on 290 five, heaviest spots in the northbound direction towards 32. accidentling with an at shopper wrote in east joppa. padonia road east ridge road, pass that, northeast corner of the beltway, holding onto delays in the outer loop approaching belair road towards the towson region. we have an accident within that delay that has been cleared. return the four, watch for an accident in jarrettsville. another one near prospect mill road. north side still a 23 minutes. 30 minutes on the west side outer loop. 60 miles per hour -- 16 miles per hour on average good

southbound 795 looks good at owings mills. over to you, tony. >> we are watching a couple different things this morning. cold front under the mountains. in between the two we will wind up with a little bit of high, thin cloud cover. we don't expect rain. 20% chance of a sprinkle. current temperatures in the low to mid 50s. it will warm up quickly. 76 this afternoon. average high is 72 and then we will turn up the heat. if you are a summer weather fan you will like the rest of this week. though 80s on wednesday and thursday. near 80 on friday. rain late next weekend, most likely on sunday. >> thank you for joining us. act with another update at 8:56.

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8:30 now on this monday morning. it is the 30th of september, 2013. pretty fall day right here in rockefeller plaza. we are crossing off bucket list items left and right this morning. we have a great crowd. >> you have to be careful about crossing off some bucket list items. >> okay. >> you really get to know the person. >> i'm going to let her do that one. >> but the bucket list. >> there you go. i'm along side al roker, matt lauer, natalie morales, and carson daly. >> we'll start a series called fact or fiction. when seeing is not always believing. stories, and videos on air and online and on television. how many of those things can you believe? we'll give you useful tools to help you become a more educated consumer of information. >> remember that one.

that was a class project. the eagle snatching the baby. turned out not to real. >> that wasn't so real. >> plus daniel radcliffe is here. he has not one but three movies coming out including one with a scene that already has people talking. we'll catch up with daniel in a lit bit. >> and from diamond earrings to designer handbags, we'll run through the great steals and deals that jill martin has just for you. >> before we go shopping, let's get the weather from al. >> we're looking at mor heavy rain, two to three inches in the pacific northwest. wet weather along the gulf. gorgeous here in the east. midwest will be spectacular. 80 in minneapolis today. more warm weather in the midwest. the rain continues in the pacific northwest. showers move through the central great lakes, upstate new york >> good morning. it should turn out to be a fairly nice day today. a mix of clouds and sun. we will

put a 20% chance for a sprinkle. high temperature in the mid 70 take a look at your latest weather, there's daniel radcliffe still taking pictures. daniel radcliffe, all right. now let's go back in to matt. >> all right, al. thank you very much. up next, daniel radcliffe on that new movie. three of them and why he takes rolls that scare him. that's right after this. s a new♪

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in this stage of 24/7 news, viral videos and rampants go accept it's hard to tell what is true and what's not. it's not always wise to believe what you see, or hear on television. so how do we know? >> reporter: it's the information overload age. >> anybody can put anything online. >> on screens big and small, from countless sites and sources. tweets, updates and alerts reach millions of people in split seconds. >> the internet is the greatest form of communication ever invented. it's also a place of chaos and confusion and trying to sort through what's real and what's not. >> reporter: on the web and beyond, when news breaks there's pressure to report quickly and mistakes do happen. >> particularly in breaking news situations social media can fuel

the rise of incorrect reporting and false facts making their way into the mainstream. >> reporter: but not all misinformation is accidental. history is ripe with cases of deception and when it comes to grand scale hoaxes, orson wells war of the worlds was one of them. the radio broadcast created widespread panic and introduced the nation to the highs and lows of getting duped collectively. almost anybody can be an online orson wells. >> people can wear a mask online making it that much harder to detect deception. >> reporter: in the world of viral videos we're asking is it real or is it a prank. >> when marketers come up with fake viral videos that's deceitful in an effort to make money. >> remember lonely girl 15? she turned out to be a hired actress for a youtube web

series. or the drowning goat rescued by a pig? staged and the worst twerk fail ever that became an instant sensation, just a stunt woman in a jimmy kimmel concoction. >> one consequence is that when real stuff comes out it takes us longer to believe it and to trust it. >> how do we know what to believe? jeff cowen is an associate professor of journalism. good morning. >> great to be with you. >> we are inendated with information. how do we filter it? >> people are skeptical. they know they're being sold something, we should be skeptical about news and viral e-mail hoaxes and messages. we're bombarded and we have to raise our level of skepticism.

>> there's time when people are trying to fool you. let's set those aside for a second. let's take a look at the situation of break news. information coming at us, members of the media, fast and furious, we're trying to get the information out. what's your best advice for the consumer? >> sometimes turn it off. if you see the people on tv are speculating and they don't know what's going on. look, the navy yard, we thought at some point there might have been an extra shooter. very scary, wasn't sure. in boston we thought there might have been extra explosive devices, wasn't true. we got that from the media. journalists can't be thinking i have to beat the other network by ten seconds. >> as a consumer you to say let me consider my source. you to trust the source but even trusted sources make mistakes. >> right because they're often -- in breaking situations, they're not getting the right information. the worst hoax was the 1996 olympic bombing. and the guy that was a hero, actually, the security guard that found the pipe bomb and

helped save lives, others reported he was a suspect and they got from that's from the fbi and it wasn't true. >> remember when president obama took the oath of office the first time that he swore on the koran, obviously not true. >> yeah, that was a viral e-mail. that went everywhere that he was a radical muslim that won't pray onhe bible or take the oath. there were no links. no sources. no dates, no photographs. there were triple exclamation points in that hoax. all capital letters in a lot of the words. the same thing with the famous clothing designers allegedly a racist. same thing. there were no links. there were no sources. and all the exclamation points, i think people are learning to be internet literal. if they see these things that are anonymous and have strong accusations with no links or sources, don't trust them. >> that's what we'll be talking

about this week. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> all week long we'll give you more information as we dive deeper into this special series called fact or fiction. each day, we'll bring you two stories. one will be totally true and the other complete fiction and we'll all try to figure out which is which. that's all this week on "today". >> savannah. >> all right, matt, thank you. now with jill's steals and deals. it's jill martin. >> good morning. >> remind us how this works. >> everybody has been waiting for this. here we are. go to today.com right now and we'll link you to the retailers website. up to 85% off today. >> menswear. tell us about it. >> meet my boyfriends. starting with the two button down shirts and this fabulous zip sweater. retail is 68 to $85. you choose one of the three. great to stock up on for holiday. a lot of men have been asking what about me, well, here you

go. retail 68 to $85. the deal $19. that's up to 78% off. >> your boyfriends are men of few words. now we have make up. >> okay, these are make up kits. it's your choice of three kits, four different shades, 65 to $75. you see all the things you get here and go online. a lot of different things in each of the sets and four shades and it's clearly marked on the website which is for you. it's carried in high end boutiques around the country and officially make up partner with legally blonde, xerox factor and fashion week. the deal is $18 for the entire set. that's up to 76% off. this is all you need for fall. you could replenish your whole make up kit. >> cookbooks. if you love the kitchen this is for you. >> the retail 67.50 to $78. your choice of 8 photographed

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match. i love matching black diamonds with gold also. people ask if you can mix and match. it's a yes. >> kenneth cole has great clutches. >> these are so popular we brought them back. retail $50. now five styles of wallets and clutches and available in a bunch of colors. i want to show you a few. you open this like this and it becomes a clutch. >> oh, cool. >> so it's different. we have them all on the website and what they do. so the retail, $50. the deal, $14 for any of these. that's 72% off. >> all right. great. finally, this is an app only offer. crocs. >> so you have to download the app to get this and if you don't know how to do it go to today.com and we'll walk you through it. you have to download the app. this is the work shoe that specialized in comfort from heel to toe. now they're offering this deal in honor of international comfort day which was this past saturday.

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back at 8:47. if you hear the name daniel radcliffe and think only harry potter, you have to think again. the 24-year-old is busy in the theater and the movies. three films coming out and another in production right now. you made time for me. good to see you. >> thank you for having me.

>> we're talking about kill your darlings this morning. it's set in the time of the great beat poets. was it fun to imagine that time? >> it was. that's what shooting a period film of that era in new york is an excuse to walk around in incredibly cool clothes. that's one of the things we discovered about the beat generation is that everything they -- that style has now become cool again. >> did you pay attention in english class? did you have to go back -- >> they're not taught as much in england in schools but i read him when i was 17 as everyone does and has that connection with it and my first reaction was the same as a lot of peoples, what the hell but after doing the film and learning more about his life his poetry made more sense to me. >> one of the things getting headlines is for better for worse is you're in a gay love scene in this movie.

are you surprised? >> i would be a very stupid person if i didn't expect some reaction to that. in a way there's been less reaction to it than i thought there would be. a lot of people are choosing to focus on the film and i don't mind what reasons people go in to see the film if ultimately they're going to go in and see a compelling drama. so i don't really mind. >> you can't do an interview without somebody bringing up that other film. >> everyone says it like that. like i don't want it to be mentioned. >> they feel bad. but do you actively seek out roles now or have you when you first left that franchise that were kind of unharry? to stretch your wings a little bit? >> yeah but at the same time i don't know what i could have done that would have been similar to harry? that's why i signed up immediately for another young adult series. i don't know what i could have done but now i think the thing is it's not just to -- i don't

want to just not repeat harry potter but i don't want to repeat the woman in black or now killing darlings. any actor that wants to have a long career realizes that the key is, you know, versatility and stretching yourself and it's for fun to be honested. >> you have been praised for the choices you have made but i was struck by the mob scene that follows you everywhere you go. you were at the venice film festival. did the building really shake because of all the fans? >> well, the building was a temporary structure. it was an easier building to shake than most are but yeah, and also we had never done any potter publicity over there through the ten years so it was like ten years of pent up -- >> excitement. >> excitement but it was great. they're a passionate people. there was a lot of crying. which i always find tricky to deal with. >> happy tears we hope. >> we hope. >> daniel radcliffe it's good to see you. >> thank you very much.

>> thank you very much. coming up next, the sweet business in chicago changing lives. business in chicago changing lives. but first, this is tod"today" o when you're struggling with your mortgage, your home feels like a burden.

today's american story comes from chicago where a big city bee farm is all the, pardon me, buzz. >> good morning, on chicago's

west side nine of ten young adults are out of work but that quirky bee business is a beacon for change. >> reporter: planes aren't the only thing taking off at chicago's o'hare airport. down at the end of the runway, a newbie farm is soaring. big named stores are slurping up all the honey it can produce. even celebrity chef rick baliss features the nectar in some of his restaurants. >> i don't know, if that a type of honey? i don't know. but when you taste the honey, it's beautiful. >> reporter: in many ways. during the recession while other companies were laying off sweet beginnings created 360 new jobs in a neighborhood where crime is rarely more than a street corner away.

80% of the men have been in jail. thad smith, a combat marine in the first gulf war is homeless. >> i'm competing against people that are younger than me with better skills and no criminal background. >> reporter: he got out of prison for writing bad checks. brenda is the queen bee of this $300,000 a year business. >> what did you know about honey? except for what you put on a biscuit? >> i knew nothing about honey. >> reporter: so she sweet talked john hansen into teaching them how. the 83-year-old is a former president of the illinois beekeepers association. >> why do you think ex-cons do so well in the bee business when they have been so challenged. >> it's a type of work passed on by story telling.

>> reporter: they learn by doing. do it right or -- >> anybody get stung yet. >> reporter: lesson number two, you can't con a bee. >> no, you don't. the bee is boss. >> reporter: study them and they can show you how to succeed in the competitive world. >> thousands of bees working for one single point. >> reporter: make something good and sweet. for most, this is not a career. they work with bees just 2 1/2 months but apparently it makes a big difference. nationwide, six out of ten convicts go back to prison, the ones that buzz through here, fewer than 4%. sweet beginnings gave james white more to talk about than his jail time. >> i learned how to be successful. >> reporter: when he went looking for his next job, shelton johnson hired him on the spot. >> he even mentored me sometimes, you know? tell me how i can run my company

more efficient. >> reporter: pollinate is a word that brenda likes to throw around when talking about her work. she pollinates jobs for recently released inmates. faith among the people that take a chance on hiring them and new hope in north lawndale. all this grew from an overgrown field at the end of a run way. >> these are weeds, not flowers. >> bees don't distinguish between what we see as a flower or weed. they're just interested in collecting the good stuff. >> reporter: after all, a weed is just a flower in a place you don't want it. sweet beginnings started with a grant from the illinois corrections department seven years ago. >> it's customary by the way, to bring some of the product. >> i did

>> this is wbal-tv 11 news in baltimore. >> good morning. i am mindy basara. the inspection of york road and cold spring lane has reopened after a building fire this money. our fighters tell 11 is that the fire engulfed the building at york road around 3:00 a.m. no one was hurt but the fire did spreading damage 4 buildings.

>> nice day today. sunshine and a few clouds. i temperatures in the mid-70s. we will turn up the heat in a

few days. 83 on wednesday.

>> announcer: from nbc news, this is today's take with al roker, natalie morales, and willie geist. live from studio 1-a in

rockefeller plaza. >> welcome back to "today" on this monday morning. i'm willie geist with al roker, natalie morales, brooke shields back in the house with us. >> usually you're in for me. >> just keeping the seat warm for you. >> there as a party when you walked in not only because you hadn't met beforeut because you're wearing -- >> the bottom half of my dress and the whole part of your dress. >> made to look like snake but it's not. >> want to be clear. >> not real snake. >> no. >> so the thing everybody is talking about this morning is the "breaking bad" finale. how many of us saw it? >> i couldn't wait. >> there's low risk of a spoiler alert because only brooke saw the finale. >> so our viewers that haven't seen it yet. >> it's too late. everybody's going to know. >> don't give away too much.

but did it live up to your expectations? >> it was beyond. part of me likes happy endings and in this weird sort of breaking bad world it was a happy ending and he says i'm never going to tell me -- and then at the final moment -- >> hey, hey, hey -- >> everybody has seen it. >> nobody has seen it. >> i was happy with the end. >> how many of you were like me yesterday downloading season one, two, three, four? >> a lot of catch up. >> i'm so behind. i have fomo. fear of missing out. >> even if you're not watching it and everybody is talking about it you're thinking there's something wrong with me. i've got to know. i've got to know. >> i have had the seasons for the last four years. and i cannot get through the first season. it is so intense. some shows you can binge watch. i cannot binge watch that show. >> no, you need a little alcohol. >> oh. >> that's the problem. >> suddenly susan in like 1999

this kid, we were doing a tribute episode to one of our cast members that had passed away and we did a tribute episode to him and we hired a bunch of kids and it's a day in his life and you see how he touched people's lives and there's one kid and it was aaron paul and he was a broading actor and i thought this kid is so unhappy on a sitcom. he's either a serious actor or he's going to have a bad attitude and nobody is going to want to hire him. thank god it was the other. but it's so interesting to watch. he is an actor that wanted that depth and intensity. i don't know how any of them survived this show. >> look at brian cranston. he was on malcolm in the middle. blowing everybody away. no pun intended. >> and the attention to detail like i said last week is they're all working so hard together and

they have -- when you really watch it and get a chance to watch it, you get a little desensitized to the blood and gore but it brilliantly crafted. >> if i'm hung over tomorrow it's because i'm binge watching and binge drinking. >> now you have an excuse. >> part of my master plan. >> brooke told me to do it. >> contract that with the finale of the sopranos which a lot of people weren't happy about or newhart. >> that was spectacular. that one and mary tyler moore. >> the more the sopranos marinated people liked it. >> i don't think so. people were still upset. >> they were confused by it and the more you thought about it you thought it was brilliant. >> people thought their tvs went out. >> you have to fill in your own ending. >> what do you think happened? >> i think it just goes on. i don't