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window the star witness in the new york versus trump trial, karen at the stand and leaving the question on many minds if the prosecution's entire case comes down to the word of convicted felon michael cohen. is not a problem? welcome everyone, i'm sandra smith in for neil cavuto and this is "your world go cohen's sent -- former president donald trump expected to speak a short time from now when that happens, we are honoured. first let's get right to nate foy with outside the courthouse the very latest after a brief break in the court. what do you know, nate? >> michael cohen right now is talking about not receiving their role in former president donald trump is max white house administration. he claims that he pitched the role of personal attorney to the president, saying that mr trump was an enigma and that he understood him because of how closely he worked with him on a day-to-day basis and

this all comes after cohen detailed his 130,000-dollar payment to adult film actress stormy daniels to suppress her story about an alleged affair with trump that trump denies. karen claims he told trump before making a payment and the former trump organization cfo alan weiss and bert promised cohen he'll be paid back. when said he -- telling the court "everything required mr trump' sign off, on top of that i wanted to money back there go cohen said he didn't let the bank know what the payments were really about because he wanted to protect trump and also to make sure that the payment went through quickly. now cohen claims, and wanted a story suppress because he worried about his electability with a woman particularly after the release of the access hollywood tape. trump denies ever having an affair with daniel's. cohen has been understand all day, lawyers for trump have yet to begin their cross-examination. expected to focus on cohen's criminal history. is a convicted felon, he's

admitted to lying under oath that several times a prosecutor say that he did that in the passed to protect trump. the most recent thing coming out of courtroom right now is going detailing in 2016 bonus, something that he said he was beyond angry about. so he is expected not to go into how he was paid back for his wiring twaddle from actress stormy daniels number $s trump reimburse him for a course trump''s lawyers will back on that in cross-examination. sandra? >> sandra: we are getting more updates as you are speaking, nate foy outside the white house there, thank you. -- and without notice former federal prosecutor andrew cherkasky and newark trial attorney rebecca rose of -- andrew coe your take on how this is going so far today. >> there is still nothing new about the criminality of what donald trump allegedly did hear. the idea of having form

discussion money payment arrangement, it seems to be the work of an attorney. we keep calling michael cohen effexor but he is a fixer attorney. he is committing and engaging in legal services for donald young. so i still haven't seen the prosecutor's close the loop on that very issue as to why those entries in donald trump''s business records that he was paying legal expenses is somehow fraudulent. it seems to be quite accurate under all of the testimony and instead all we are getting is this idea of what goes on behind the scenes as i guess the portable as the prosecutors might want that to be but no evidence of guilt. >> sandra: just getting a bit of a real hear from carrie 2slgbtqia+ who is in the overflow room there in the courthouse is this an ongoing, she says there is an exchange about the christmas bonus cash is described in the former president donald trump as being very alert during this exchange, leaning over at one point to say something to his lawyer, todd

blanche. cohan i just mentioned wanting the title personal attorney for the president while bert and his family. rebecca, there is no doubt that there has been a lot of focus on the part of the defence to poke holes in michael cohen's credibility. your take on how this is going? >> look, my thinking that once we see cross-ex cross-examination, sandra, this is going to be holes bigger than swiss cheese. this man is a convicted fe felon, he has admitted lying under oath. he is not credible. to what the defence will come in and attack every aspect of what he's saying. number 2 reason why he is not credible is because he aggressively posts on social media his hate for donald trump german so when you put those two things together, a witness who's got -- not credible and the witness who hates the defendant, it

doesn't create testimony that can be believed by irregular person who's sitting in the jury. what has michael cohen said other than i hate him, i have and asked the grey cup i hope here's up in jail, will will you say anything, will you like? there will be the line of questioning that the defence will take. but michael gordon will lie again donald young convicted. >> sandra: andrew at one point i remember one of the update coming from carrie outside -- inside the courthouse noting that instructor listening to cool hand how desperate he seemed for trump''s approval and affirmation and that he would do anything for it, culminating in him taking him out a home equity line of credit to the care of his boss' the business. to circle back, carrie kaposi that she should have -- that have been many twists and turns today, the exposure,

andrew. >> he certainly seems obsessed with donald trump. desperate for a position in washington, desperate for the approval of donald trump. we've been hearing those courts all day that he was looking for the boss to the job to him and that that was what he was living for 14 years working for him and so that shows that michael gordon could have variable been acting out on his own in many instances and i agree entirely with what rebecca is saying about the credibility issues that will be undoubtedly exposed in cross-examination but we really have to keep coming back to the fact nothing he said -- singular actually suggest criminal behaviour. it suggests the idea that they were engaged in this nondisclosure agreement, he was acting as an attorney. legal services. so even though he was -- so all the credibly the other side which will of course be demolished, he's still not adding anything to the actual

criminal elements here. >> sandra: as we await for the court to wrap your car we know we are probably minutes away from that happening and we are expecting the former president, donald trump, to speak. i want to ask you both about something that he says -- said earlier this morning. take a lesson here... >> mr. trump: elderly what, the appellate division capitalist system in because what this judge is getting away with is this graceful. >> sandra: so andrew oke start with you mack do you believe that that can happen, the judges should step in because what the judges -- that is getting away with is this repulsion the former president? >> i think that the applet division looks like they were kind of the latest chemical latest chemical -- arena trial wraps up before their purse to make a decision. the gag order is in my view absolutely unconstitutional. is an infringement on his first amendments right,'s speech and not just normal -- and so i'm disappointed there is this long in the game before the division has even weighed in on this, that is

gone on this long but i don't expect much from them by the end of this trail although i hope for rent, i'm sceptical. >> sandra: rebecca? >> grew -- agree with andrew. it seems like the appellate division wants to put this until there is a verdict. of course, at which time if there is a guilty verdict there will be an immediate appeal to the appellate division. if they upheld the guilty verdict will go to the court of appeals in new york and possibly the supreme court, i believe, will take this up on constitutional grounds for the gag order and for unfair trial but as -- at this point it doesn't look like the appellate division wants to get involved. you want to allow one michelin to just run a mark and allow this lack unconstitutional right to continue in this courtroom. the lack of any respect for the constitution and the lack of protection that constitution allows the president, the former president, are not allowing that in this courtroom and it seemed like the appellate division is just letting that happen. >> sandra: it looks like there is some more exchange

is happening right now at the first republic bank statement and the back-and-forth that happened there. will have more updates for our viewers in this moment on that. rebecca, andrew, we appreciate you joining us. as we await for court to wrap and donald trump to speak, our new glasses it's in the prosecution' interest make us painful as possible for michael cohen today remarked what does he mean by that? will find out. >> ♪ ♪ ringing) limu, someone needs to customize and save hundreds on car insurance with liberty mutual. let's fly! (inaudible sounds) chief! doug. (inaudible sounds) ooooo ah. (elevator doors opening) (inaudible sounds) i thought you were right behind me. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, ♪ ♪ liberty. ♪ ♪ my back got injured very bad. i was off work for about a year.

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>> ♪ ♪ fox news alert we are waiting court to wrap that could have been a moment now and donald trump is set to speak. john yoo surrell is the prosecution's best interest to make it as painful as possible for michael cohen today. and what exactly does he mean by that? john yoo in joining us now. what do you mean by that? welcome. >> thanks for having me back. the problem is you got as the prosecution a liar, a convicted felon got a convicted perjurer. the worst possible witness. i can't even imagine the prosecution has now built a whole case so it turns only on michael cohen's testimony about what donald trump is thinking inside his head. so if that's the case and you've got to bring out all the negatives, every bad

thing anyone might want to say about cohen as an effort to inoculate him for the enable -- inevitable attacks that will occur on this could ability. number will just wait i think really for the cross-examination to start. i don't think from what we've heard in the courtroom that michael cohen has dropped any blockbusters that we are learning anything more -- more new. what we are really going to -- >> sandra: affected circle back on that because it sounds pretty shocking and counterintuitive for the prosecution to make this as painful as possible on their star witness, your point is that they would want to get all the bad stuff out, considering he is a perjurer and convicted fraudster, get all the bad stuff out, make it as painful or possible and then rebuild his reputation in front of the jury? is that your point? >> yes. there is actually a common trial tactic when you have a problematic witness like -- i guess its -- it's much better

for the prosecution and you can do it under your own control and yes as you said exactly, rebuild his credibility rather than but hand over, this guy is such a wonderful guy he tell the truth all the time and have donald trump's lawyers destroy him. and back you want to take on the wind out of sales, out of the defence and again personally i don't think this will be possible because cohan is such a fraud -- flawed witness. other judges and other courts have said he is a lawyer. so once he's been convicted of forgery, once he's been convicted of tax fraud and division, how can the jury really believe anything he saying? >> sandra: pretty much you are saying they are setting up for something that won't work for the prosecution's case. >> i think this is a very -- this is why this case is always in trouble letters on the legal problems where they are trying -- the prosecution is trying to incorporate the federal election crime which they are not allowed to prosecute but just on the basic facts. i think that really explains the story of what we are

seeing the last? weeks which is the really can't get a conviction right now on the facts they have some -- and say they're trying to drag donald trump threw mud, destroys character got me the jury hate him. and then want to convict him of something or even may be try to go -- gold trump testifying, waving his fifth amendment rights. -- >> sandra: doocy there is a possibility? >> you know, with donald trump, he has a repetition of not listening to his lawyers. he is the worst client you would ever want as a lawyer. and so his lawyers i am sure have explained to him that you should take the stand. but you has taken a stand in previous cases. you may think he can talk his way out of this. i think this is really dangerous crap that is being set for him and i hope that he doesn't take the bait. >> sandra: really interesting. i couldn't help but think when we let into you with this whole idea that the

prosecution is making it as painful as possible because it's who they've got, as their star witness because it or anybody else? >> no. this is the thing. the real crime here is not whether donald trump had an affair with stormy daniels. the real crime here is not whether trump made a recent nondisclosure agreement with stormy daniels or even had her paid. that is all legal. the crime in did donald trump intentionally tried to commit fraud through this bookkeeping error -- bookkeeping allegation to try to cover up a larger crime which, again, the prosecution is not constitutionally allowed to charge. so this is all they've got. the prosecution said he will rest this week. i think you're probably going to see at least two more names of cohen from the prosecution and another day of two of cross-examination. that brings us to thursday. so i don't really see what else prosecution has -- they got no secret witness, about

the smoking gun. in fact, this whole lot two weeks has laid bare how weak this case was and how he associate -- say it, how partisan intent to bring it in the first place. >> sandra: i mean, i'm looking for the update coming out of the courtroom right now. exhibit 35 is a bank statement for first republic showing a deposi31 transfer 130,000. both cohen and weitzel burke wrote on this document -- i mean, i'm looking through what's happening in -- i'm wondering whether getting with this. cohen says total due to redfish was 50,000 from two years earlier. these are the exchange is. koen senft 133,000 was for the nda. or adding it up. weitzel burke sent to groups of her double it for -- this is the back-and-forth in the exchange that is happening as michael cohen continues to understand at this hour. final thought from you, john? >> final thought is this is why we crossed the rubicon of

prosecuting a former president for the first time how this is why we will of the criminal justice system to interfere within the election of the president this year? this has been a disaster for the prosecution and i hope it doesn't four, retaliation will people start -- red states caribou states will start prosecution residents to achieve some kind of electoral outcome which is something we never did in our 20 year -- 2020 year cerebral public. >> sandra: will -- >> sandra: as i mentioned today's session is expected to wrap sharply possibly in the next ten minutes or so and the former precedents is set to make remarks when he emerges from that courtroom. those doors right there. when he does, where it -- we are there. and later from trump on trial trump on the trail, this was the scene on the blue, new jersey this weekend. so this -- is this a sign these courtroom battles could be backfiring?

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but it was a repayment of trump's money. okay that seems to be where they're going with the exchange right now. andrew, your thoughts as we do await for court to adjourn soon? >> this is an interesting part of the testimony because this gets to the question of whether the business record entry of legal expenses was illegitimate or a fraudulent entry in the first place and so now we are kind of hearing this idea that it was designated to somehow be future payments but that doesn't seem to be how things work with michael cohen. it instead the evidence tends to suggest that he would perform his legal service and then get paid backward. that's very standard in most legal practices in terms of doing work for clients. sometimes even fronting legal expenses. and then after you can complete the work you send your client at the -- and then the client actually pays you back. now it seems to me that he is suggesting that it was -- they were trying to create

some sort of image that this was a future intended expense but that doesn't seem to comport with the actual documents that have come into evidence already and i think that is where one of these issues in the credibility of michael cohen can certainly have quite a bit of meat on the cross-examination side. >> sandra: rebecca, let me get your thoughts as the exchange i just either continued a few moments ago. exhibit 2050 was presented, it was a text on january 17th, 2017 between cohen and jan siegemund, -- telling him he, cohen, would be personally -- personal council to trump, cohen is not sure what weisselberg did with the document with the handwritten documents, cohen estimates it was around january 17th 2017. and the later, cohen announced that his new role would be personal council to the president cabin details exchanges about that where congratulatory messages were involved, cohen says payments

started in february. your thoughts at this point? >> look, there can be payment for passed legal services and payments for future legal for services. when you're an attorney representing the client, they both can be true. there can be payments that were made for something michael cohen did in the past and then eva turner of sorts for his future contribution to the trump organization. anything that what we are hearing from michael cohen is nothing of it is to really be believed. we have the prosecution putting all of their eggs in the basket with michael cohen. we have yet to hear -- here what is the crime, what crime has been committed? these are rotten eggs. they're putting in a basket. all of the eggs are michael cohen, they say they have one more witness left. where is the crime that they have brought the former president in to a court in new york -- where is the crime that they have alleged?

so far we haven't heard anything, sandra. >> sandra: thank you, rebecca. i just want to let our viewers and listeners know that courts, the jurors, have been -- they've been dismissed. so they will be leaving the courtroom. obviously that means we'll see the former president leaving shortly. weisselberg, this is ongoing in the most recent exchange, obviously before the jurors were dismissed from the courtroom, weisselberg said, andrew copp that cohen's 35,000-dollar payments started in february because with a trust and movement going on was going to take a little bit of time. weisselberg then told going to send an invoice every month and write, "legal services rendered," and they'll get his check sent out. in this reading this verbatim from our buddhism is that a courtroom other trump get going the title of personal attorney to president, payment for that did not come up. coincidently new -- he was getting paid for the

world by monetizing relationships and i'll review this one last line, this is apparently the last exchange inside the courtroom, cohen is aware, he says, that i would sooner agreement or written engagements layer had to be -- lawyer had to be filled out to formalize an official job title. when said this was not filled out because he knew there was -- there was going to be no compensation. andrew copp your reaction? >> see, this is very interesting, sandra. this is something that the payment scattered $5000, was, in fact, payment for passed legal services which is exactly what is described on the check and invoice we do you know what, on time and hereby the schmidt because the former president had to stop -- you can see machiavelli cameras and he is now going to speak. let's listen together... >> mr. trump: knew this was a scam, -- the things happening to democracy in this country and we have a lot -- past loss of loss to

stop things like this. j.d. vance, what's going on -- threat to democracy and we cannot have a country where we get to prosecutor political opponents instead of persuading voters. ag trance -- highly respected from iowa, let the american people decide who -- politics actually has no place in this courtroom. this is all politics. and mccarthy, great legal analyst, said none of this is a legal. there's nothing illegal. is all politics, there's nothing illegal. a lot of people say that. were all saying that. the only person who won't say it is a judge because it's a rig deal. is conflicted. but everybody is saying there is no crime. up at the right now -- not a single trip of evidence and

president in the trial of other -- nonevent. there's been absolutely nothing. le casimir doing great, you know why they're doing great? -- they've got me here for three and half to four weeks intercompany but we still have the best poll numbers and -- let me put this slightly as possible. there's no crime, state or federal, which was -- this is a case looking for a legal basis. there is none. there is no crime. again j.d. vance said to the american voters were watching this, the one opportunity you get to speak up against this sham prosecution and to save the american people should elect the president, not use corrupt dnc prosecutors to

help them get elected which is accuweather doing. and the mccarthy again -- the nda [inaudible] that is why andy's -- dnc and doj which do have -- took absolutely no action against -- they look at it as said it's nothing. [inaudible] da bragg -- by the way he turned down the case and it could have been brought -- most eight years ago, by debris are in right in the middle of a presidential campaign. bragg. is that -- you go back, they collect our your earlier records [inaudible] because of what took place. when he saw that they were going to use the scam that he was angry. even michael -- of cnn, a person horrified [inaudible]

that which they are being prosecuted for and that hasn't happened. you know what -- it didn't happen for simple reason because [inaudible] mark theissen. know things -- i know things are going very well for the prosecution in the court of law and in a court of law -- public opinion they're doing even worse. [inaudible] the keeping the presidents of the campaign trail in new york in the hush money trial which is a testimony [inaudible] georgia, pennsylvania, michigan state, content cannot get a fare trial. that is too bad. that is totally too bad. and the mccarthy -- making -- maybe george

merchan is having second quote -- have not come close to proving fraud or that any fraud has taken place. there's no fraud here. there's no crime here. this is workweeks of keeping me from out campaigning. that is entirely, can't imagine any competent lawyer -- jonathan turley can't imagine any competent lawyer would not be impressed by what is happening in this courtroom. boots -- is the interleaving to go down the day of infamy for the new york legal system -- the whole world is laughing now at new york weaponize legal system. watching this unfold in the courtroom as a lawyer is deeply disturbing to mitigate referring police documents and documents -- show that the nda and the payments that is not in dispute, this is a total -- this is a --

there is absolutely no -- there's no problem here. you know the ftc -- ftc county elections commission comfortable election commission gaheer looked at this years ago and they take a pass and said there's no problem here. tim scott, objective is to keep trump of the campaign trail. that's all you're trying to keep him on the campaign trail. [inaudible] were leading in every state, the five key states, weary been very substantially i might add. so is our -- is all really a very set -- for the country, except for new york. mean, new york -- a judge that highly conflicted at a level that nobody has seen before and possibly -- just think of it and you should go out and check it out. but we have a corrupt judge and we have the judge that highly conflicted and he is

keeping me from campaigning. he's an appointed new york judge appointed. you know who appointed him? democrat politicians. he's appointed. he's a corrupt judge and he's a complete -- and he's not letting us go out and campaign and get rid of this scam. every single legal -- even cnn, even msdnc, they are saying there's no case here. thank you very much. >> runs next time you will be on the campaign trail -- >> what do you mean conflicted? >> sandra: we always hang on a beach is to see if he doesn't respond to any of those questions shouted by the former president has exited the court room and is expected step of the microphone, called what he is seeing in the courtroom as can, all in a terrible thing happening to democracy, that the american people decide. e-man en luke korte a series

of legal experts including andy mccarthy what appears frequently on this network, seeing, "not -- nun of this is illegal." the former president calling it a rig deal what is happening to her he's not on the campaign trail saying there is no crime human at one point saying that despite -- not the fact -- he is still pulling well. america -- bill hemmer, he was inside the courtroom and you has stopped exiling and is joining us now. this is dated 16 of this trial but in the former president's words, is four weeks of me not campaigning. you're response? >> that's true. sandra, good afternoon to you. we just came outside the courthouse. the courtroom, trying to get ahead of the president a lot of things but -- sandra, i have six and half pages of notes. i'm not going to go through all of it. i will make four simple points about observations and instagram keep in mind --

about a half-dozen members of the public, the rest are all media tapping away on her lap tops. the q&a between the prosecutor and cohen during the first half of the afternoon, it was almost -- it was question, answer, question, answer, no deviation whatsoever and cohen looked right at that attorney, the entire time. and i guess if you're an attorney and you're with us is doing what you expect and there are no curveballs that is not something that you want in that circumstance like this. but after the break, after that 3:30 brick that took about 90 minutes or so, court came back in a session and cohen spoke directly to jurors the entire time. it was an easy thing to do from the beginning, sandra, if you can follow me here, there are monitors or over this courtroom. and the reason there are monitors everywhere for the judge and for the jurors and for the witness and for the attorneys on both sides is because there are so many

exhibits that are being shown on those monitors. text messages and phone logs and letters and exhibits. and so you have to look at that monitor. during that time, michael cohen was explaining why he was not given a job at the white house. and he was going through the rationale about what was offered through ryan's prebest, what came directly, what he liked and what he didn't like, what was pushing for, what he was not able to get. and that i'd say, sandra, at that moment the jurors in my judgement where the most engaged i have seen them all afternoon. as cohen was talking to them, we were staring right back at him as well. but imagine all the dates exhibit covered tax messages and the phone logs -- will logs et cetera. not one word on anything that was put up on behalf of the prosecution mentioned the word election. not a single time. during cohen's testimony today gaheer referred often to the fact that trump was concerned about the election

in the stormy daniels story got out, that could hurt him with women in that election. cohen made a point of that during the morning session. in this -- afternoon that's only time that he referred to it. however, i think in terms of a defence when you get an opportunity going cross examination, you can point to something like that that says the election was never mentioned mx are what does that mean? in the end, if the prosecutor's -- you need a lot of time -- mascot i have they come no one knows until they do it. in the end cap if alan michael berg, whose name came up many times, the former -- age 76 and -- serving his second prison sentence right now at the age of 76, if weisselberg is not a witness in this case, sandra, right now it doesn't look like it's going to happen, it is cohen's word against trump. and who were the jury believed? that's why the entire case is

hanging on right now we do there is some wrapup. as we roll into b-17 tomorrow and it is our expectation that courts will resume at 9:30 tomorrow morning, obviously there is during your ours. cohen will be back understand under direct examination. fill, thank you very much. >> rate to be with you, sandra. we'll see what we get -- at 9:30. >> sandra: great day for -- thank you. back with us now former federal particular andrew cherkasky and new york trial attorney rebecca rose woodland. all right snow is a big rep from backup a lot of new information or. andrew coe the gun. what are we going to see tomorrow? >> i think you're going to see a lot of the same. the prosecution, the direct examination of michael cohen is about the same as the prosecution of the whole case. we are three weeks and keller's no evidence of an actual crime. we are one day into michael cohen's testimony, they have

yet to drop the bombshell that they claim they would drop all along. former president trump stood in the hallway there saying that all of these legal experts keep saying there's no crime there and i have been going through all of the reports, all of the editorials, all of the left-leaning news sources. i can't find a legal analyst out there who's actually explaining how a crime was committed here, how is there -- how there is actual evidence that listing this as a legal expense was an improper business record entry and that is not even getting in to the question of whether there was the criminal intent of donald trump to commit fraud. >> sandra: rebecca, just reading through it, at some point it was hard to make out exactly what the former president was saying as he was speaking there just outside the courtroom, but we do know that he led -- he let off with "this is a scam, i think it's a terrible thing that is happening to democracy and for this country." his obvious frustration is the fact that he is sitting

there and this is happening to him and he is not out there, campaigning. but he did point to the fact that his pole numbers are still clammy. >> his pole numbers are climbing because the rest of the country sees this for what this is. is plenty -- it is a case that has no merit and when you bring a former president in to a courtroom for now -- there is no crime yet, we are 17 days in. where is the allegation of the crime? we haven't heard any evidence to this. so what it's looking like is what president trump has been saying all along. they are trying to prevent him from going on the campaign trail, from shaking hands with americans, from telling americans what his story will be for the next four years if he is elected. they are trying to prevent that. the democrats in this judge that the president has said the judge is conflicted. well, he shall step down.

he should have recused himself from they won. >> sandra: andrew coe rebecca, we are watching together the former president's motorcade is departing the courthouse now ours we will now anticipate his arrival there tomorrow morning and court will resume 9:30 am eastern time. thanks to both of you for sticking with us. to another new york court room in the bribery case against mckay new jersey senator bob menendez. was something that happened today can be significant. were on an. >> ♪ ♪ i like to do things myself. i can't trust anything else to do the job right. kayak... aaaaaaaahhhh kayak. search one and done. can neuriva support your brain health? mary, janet, hey!! (thinking: eddie, no frasier, frank... frank?) fred! how are you?! fred... fuel up to 7 brain health indicators, including your memory. join the neuriva brain health challenge. (fisher investments) at fisher investments we may look like

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on trial. that also was bob menendez in 2017, he was accused of taking bribes. he upbraided the fbi after that case. listen... >> this case started, was wrong, the way it was investigated was wrong, the way it was prosecuted was wrong, and the way it was tried was wrong as well. >> there was a hung jury last time that enabled menendez to run for reelection and win in 2018. there that say phase i travel began. prosecutors accused the senator of obstructing justice in one case. you requested leniency from one constituents and accepted a mercedes. menendez is charged with working for egypt and qatar but menendez was not -- will not step down. >> and will not bout of the democratic primary this june. i am hopeful that my exoneration will take place this summer and allow me to

pursue my candidacy as an independent democrat in the general election. >> menendez had more support at the last trial and in fact is currently calling corey brooker served as a character witness and set in court for moral support. not this time. >> how closely will you pay attention starting next week to senator menendez' trial? >> not closely "i mean, this is a trial that will go on. not going to follow the day-to-day. >> menendez was chair of the senate foreign relations committee. that is why these qatar and egypt charges are so important. he gave up the gavel to the committee and he could face 200 years in prison if convicted and the are still trying to see this jury. sandra? >> sandra: chad pergram martinez for us. thank you. former president donald trump in and out of new york court after a massive rally in new jersey -- this weekend.

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>> sandra: take a look at this. this is new jersey. a deep blue state. donald trump drawing a huge crowd there. it all comes as "the new york times" poll shows him leaving in 5 of 6 key

battleground states. could this trial be helping him? let's ask our next guest. fox news political analyst. what say you? >> i say that things are certainly changing in donald trump's baby. we are seeing the crowd the size we have never seen before in politics. but it's intriguing to me especially in a look of what has happened over last year. especially considering the fact that generation z and millennials will make up a major bulk of the vote, noticing the n"the new york times" put out today. hispanic voters, 60% of their vote between 2020. 20% of the black vote. this is insane, sandra. i got to tell you, donald trump should continue to do what he's been doing. it's been working. get on board with coalitions.

they need to make sure that these voters do continue for the future. >> sandra: it is described as 80,000 up to 100,000 supporters joins the former president and his historically deep blue state, francesca. this headline in front of me drawing stark contrast to trump trump's beachy rally in new jersey. stark contrast to biden speech weekend. seizing on the opportunity not on the court room to go out there and do this. that is the response. what does that tell you? >> president biden vice president kamala harris have been hitting the battleground states are in. what stands out to me in the polling with "the new york times" released in the polling in "usa today" as well, the fact that biden is out there campaigning aggressively. and his numbers are still really are. trump is leading them in key states. the president is also

$44 million into advertising. just announced recently in may. targeting the black community, latino community, the asian american community as well. and again, the numbers are where they are. it is still early and in "usa today"'s poll on 24% of people said that they still change their mind. there's a lot of persuadable's out there. it is pretty significant. >> sandra: we are looking at the numbers up on the screen right now with trump leading in 5 of 7th swing states. and today 17 sitting in the trial on the new york court room. he is leading in 5 key states. young and nonwhite voters are expressing discontent with the current president joe biden. per a new set of polls -- this is directly from "the new york times." including one with the "philadelphia inquirer" revealing an erosion of support among young and nonwhite voters upset about the economy.

and gossett. >> that's right. enthusiasm especially when you think about the bedrock of the democratic party. enthusiasm went from 69% in 2020 to 39%. these are numbers that no one could ever make up especially for republican. it is extraordinarily important, i think for donald trump to grab this moment by the bull and keep going. the court cases that we have going on especially legal analyst after legal analysts say there is no case. they clearly with these trials preventing him from campaigning to dirty him out. it is not working. it has the reverse effect. now, we are going to have an election like no other in november. >> sandra: do you think that this trial is helping or hurting the former president? you say what? >> when you look at polling, what is hurting president joe biden's views on the economy.

that is their number one issue. it could be that we are seeing here is that views on the economy are over taking american's views on a number of other issues in this election. also as pointed out, that is a big issue, the israel -- >> sandra: the former president campaigning over the weekend or that was a big target of the current president, the economy. he said we are going to make the economy great again and inflation has been tough for so many. thanks to both of you. thanks for joining us. thanks to all of you for joining us here. good to be with you all. you can catch me weekdays on "america reports" at 1:00 p.m. eastern time. i will see you tomorrow for now, here is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> jesse: i am