they have had nice earnings and revenue. there are plays where you find good companies trading at discount. liz: matt, thank you for being here, with bi funds. we'll put all of his picks up on the facebook page. [closing bell rings] there is the closing bell. we have weaker dollar. lowest level in eight months against the euro. david, melissa, pick it up from here. melissa: stocks ending the day in the red, i'm melissa francis. david: i'm david asman. this is "after the bell." at this hour, lots of action from the campaign trail after bitter battles for delegates in colorado, iowa, and wyoming left donald trump empty-handed and slamming the political process. ted cruz responding just moments ago. meanwhile in new york trump is gearing up for a big rally in albany show results after new poll show trump powering. we're eight days from the state primary he has to win. two key members about his team

will not be voting for him. we'll tell all but that. melissa: on the hunt for delegates, donald trump and john kasich are fighting for the empire state today. ted cruz is looking ahead to the west coast. fox business's peter barnes is at a kasich event in troy, new york. latest on campaign trail. peter? reporter: hey, melissa the governor just wrapping up a town hall meeting in troy, new york, just north of albany. he is not predicting how he will do in this contest here but the polls kind of suggest he is going to lose big to donald trump. latest "fox news poll" released yesterday shows donald trump with 54%. kasich at 22 and ted cruz at 15. ted cruz has not been campaigning here very much. he is in california already moving on looking ahead to the california race. but kasich's strategy is not to win here. he is just trying to pick up some more delegates. believe it or not he has not actually won initial delegates since his victory in his home

state of ohio. with the rules here he may be able to pick off some of the 95 delegates up for grabs tuesday with his strategy, along with ted cruz trying to deny trump the 1237 delegates he needs to outright capture the nomination before republicans gather in cleveland this july. and kasich's primary selling point here once again to this audience in troy, new york, is that he is the candidate who in polls, national polls can consistently beat the likely nominee for the democrats. here is what he said. >> we need to make sure in the fall that we elect somebody who can actually, we pick somebody who can actually beat hillary clinton. i'm the only person who consistently beats hillary in the fall. reporter: kasich also hopes that the primary calendar looking ahead to pennsylvania, connecticut, and maryland will

be states where he can attract more delegates. right now he has only got 143. only 850 delegates left. if you do the math it is mathematically impossible for him to do the nomination the traditional way. so contested convention in cleveland where he might get it after the first or second or, after the first and second vote. maybe third or forth. that is his strategy. melissa: only one he has got, peter. thank you so much. david. david: donald trump and supporters furious at ted cruz taking colorado delegates without a vote. take a listen. >> they weren't given a vote. this was given by politicians. it's a crooked deal. that is not the way democracy is supposed to work. the system is rigged. i see it. >> you go to the county conventions, you see gestapo tactics. >> gestapo tacticses? that is strong word. >> we'll be filing several protests because reality is they're not playing by the rules.

david: that is paul manafort from the trump campaign. ted cruz responding at a rally in california just moments ago, take a listen. >> now in response, donald has been yelling, and screaming. i'm sure some cursing. [laughter] and some late-night fevered tweeting. [laughter] all the charactertics i would note we would want of a commander-in-chief. [booing] and the latest thing he seized upon, is when people vote against him, they're stealing the election. [laughter] david: here to weigh in, we're putting it right not middle of this debate, governor mike huckabee, former arkansas governor and former presidential candidate. i know you love to be in that position between cruz and trump, but trump calls it a crooked deal. his campaign guy called it gestapo like, scorched earth tactics. do you agree?

>> well it is clearly not exactly the classic way in which people vote and delegates are chosen. now i used to say all the time in the governor's office there is difference between things being legal and being right. what they did is legal. i'll leave it up to the voters of colorado to decide if it's right. that essentially you didn't have a primary, you didn't have a caucus. you just had a smoke-filled room. given colorado, we know what kind of smoke was likely in that room. david: and also, i think of all of the voters in colorado, republican voters, who feel like they have been skunked, forget about donald. their vote is not being considered at all? >> well, that's the whole point is that this was put back in the hands of party bosses. now i listened to what ted cruz said. let me just make sure we kind of remember this day because, if we get to the convention, and trump hasn't secured 1237 delegates, and it goes to the first ballot and then to the second and

somebody else other than trump and cruz end up getting the nomination, i will expect ted cruz to be very quiet, very supportive, and say it is just great with him. do you think that will happen, david? no, i don't think so. david: what would mike huckabee say if that happens? >> well, what would i do? david: what would you say and what would you do if it is not given to either trump or cruz? >> well, i think it is going to be a huge total meltdown of the party at that point. because if in fact the two people who are most in the lead with delegates, are both sort of pushed aside for someone else, i feel like that the people who came to the convention to vote for one of the two front-runners will be so dispirited, so discouraged, i told sean hannity other night you might even see a mushroom cloud coming out of the cleveland convention center, a political mushroom cloud, let me be clear. david: let me just put up one

figure before you go and that is, that trump delegates, sort of outpace the number of actual votes. he is criticizing what he himself is taking advantage of. he has got 37% of the so far, the overall votes but he has 46% of the delegates. so that's, he himself has benefiting from some of the unfairness that he is complaining about. what, how do you respond to that? >> well, the fact is it's, delegates win the nomination. it is not votes. it is like the electoral college. we had cases where a person lost the popular vote but won the election because it was based on the electoral college. it is no different than that. so that is not without precedent. it is kind of how the system works. it makes sure there is a voice for the smaller states. that is why we have the electoral college, a voice for the minority, but when people don't even vote at all, it is

just the party officials get together and say, okay, we're going to do this way, i think that really creates some problems. david: that is what gets under your skin. the party bosses taking over. governor huckabee. great to see you. thanks for coming in. >> you bet, david. david: trump is not only complaining about his own fight against a rigged system, take a listen. >> in all fairness what is happening to bernie. he wins, he wins, he wins, he wins, and i hear he doesn't have a chance. this is a crooked system, folks. david: bernie sanders pulling off another victory in wyoming but despite his win the senator is losing the dell battalion he will to hillary clinton. the two democrats splitting the state's pledged delegates seven to seven even though bernie won. however clinton is also receiving wyoming's four superdelegates who pledged their allegiance to her. voters be damned, melissa. melissa: in exchange for who knows front.

fake cover causing a backlash. "boston globe printing a mock front page inside the ideas section, painting a picture of all the terrible things that would happen under a trump presidency. gop front-runner firing back on "fox & friends." listen. >> just shows you, here is paper sold for one dollar a little while ago, one dollar. that is what it is worth, one dollar. it's a very sad thing. it is sad for the paper. it used to be considered a major paper. and now it is like a supermarket throwout. melissa: here, judy miller, manhattan institute adjunct fellow, also fox news contributor. brent bozell, media research center president. thanks to both of you for joining us. judy, i'm interested in your take. on one hand this is in the tradition of political satire. something that the onion does. something we've seen throughout history of our country. on other hand hard to imagine them doing it to someone else. so obvious trump would be their target. what is your take.

>> i think in this most extraordinary, unusual election season, this is a very creative response to make people pay attention to what donald trump has been saying. it was not on the front page. it was on the front pain of the ideas section, which is an editorial section. it was clearly labeled, as an editorial. the news staff had nothing to do with it. so i think it is completely appropriate. and by the way, donald trump doth protest too much, calling it worthless and paper worthless. he was one who keeps talking about it so that he can continue to call the mainstream media scum. melissa: brent, just to set the record straight, he is talking about, this is the "boston globe." "the new york times" once tried to save them in 2001. they paid $1.1 billion for the paper. just three years ago they ended up selling it for $60 million. you can barely get an apartment in manhattan for that price. they had to off-load the globe for 95% loss on their investment.

so it is a struggling paper. but they say it is exercise in taking a man at his word and taking the ideas to their logical conclusion. they could have done the same thing to bernie sanders and had, you know, feign us to the socialist extreme but they didn't. they chose trump. >> yeah, let me make couple points. it is journalistically dysfunctional what they did, yes, it is editorial and all that but the editorial they ran was a serious commentary, and by the way i think entire republican party is grateful to the "boston globe" for giving it advice. but it was a serious attempt at an editorial. this thing, as you said is the onion. i don't know where this paper is coming from? what point exactly it is trying to make. because one side is silly and one side is supposed to be serious. you know, in newspapers today all sorts crazy things are done. i want to say something. i got to say something. i listened to your last segment, i really think it was not fair

that neither dave, i love you, but neither dave nor governor huckabee mentioned, governor huckabee has endorsed donald trump. melissa: i don't think he officially endorsed donald trump. melissa: i hear what you're saying. gone with him to different rallies. he hasn't actually endorsed him. this is something we talked about before the show. correct me in the booth if i'm wrong? i think that is correct. although you're right he has stood by his side. we had him on in fact right after donald trump made the comments about abortion and certainly mike huckabee didn't agree with him. >> melissa, he is a partisan. melissa: judy, let me ask you, you know it is, be hard to see the paper going at someone else so far. you asked what the, what the means or the end is to their means. they say that the other candidate is equally extreme, meaning ted cruz. what they suggest quite seriously is that the party draft someone, an alternative, somebody plausible and honorable like speaker paul ryan. they're advocating for

subverting the whole process. >> no, they're advocating bringing some sanity back to the whole process. melissa: in your opinion. >> in my opinion. "the boston globe" has right to its own opinion as long as it is labeled opinion. my concern about the trend in the press today is that too often you see facts that are not facts. they're opinion masquerading as facts. "boston globe did not do that by the way, let me remind you, it was "boston globe, back in the day when jimmy carter was president, had irate printer change headline on one front page stories, more mush from the wimp. this is kind of an equal opportunity slasher. "the boston globe" has a great tradition and it is known to americans because of its extraordinary spotlight, inside, expect i've team. melissa: go ahead, last word, brent, real quick. >> if i were donald trump, if i were donald trump here right now i would point out he got highest

percentage of the campaign in massachusetts. melissa: yeah. that's a great point. thanks to both of. >> you thank you. david: just to make the point clear, mike huckabee has not yet officially endorsed donald trump. he has been on stage with him on certain events and et cetera. there has been no official endorsement as of yet. there is top secret and then there is top secret. is president obama downplaying hillary clinton's email scandal? how the president's new comments could affect the investigation going forward. >> there is classified and then there is classified. there's stuff that is really top secret, top secret, and there's stuff that is being presented to the president or the secretary of state. melissa: they're behind their desk campaign for president 100% but not where it may matter most. major misstep for the trump kids. david: uh-oh. former new hampshire governor judd gregg that bernie sanders supporters are blinded to

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investigation treatment. >> i looked at this as lawyer, from the legal standpoint. president is not supposed to to inferior with cases. he did precisely that he interfered directly. he has huge megaphone. he yelled loud and clear to james comey, loretta lynch, i don't think she has done anything wrong to break the law so don't indict here. david: he used important legal term, intent. play the sound from that and get your opinion. >> here is what i know. hillary clinton was an outstanding secretary of state. she would never intentionally put america in any kind of jeopardy. david: but the question is, she may have done exactly that. it might not have been her intention to do that but can't you be guilty of a crime with gross negligence dealing with evidence? >> it is not whether she intended to put america at risk.

rather, did she intend to commit acts, very intentional, acts thereby at the end put america at risk? she intended to create a personal email server. she intended to do personal business on it. she intended to put classified email on it and all that is sufficient to indict decide. david: we don't have a clear answer why she did it. went through all the troubles. she says it was for convenience. the evidence points to another direction. she was trying to avoid laws of disclosure concerning -- >> -- as secretary of state there would be a myriad of foia request, freedom information, where as your email from this particular subject. when that finally happened and state department stalled forever, finally they had to cough up the answer. we don't have it. it is on her private email. then of course everything exploded. david: very quickly the, president said the attorney general has not contacted him at all by this investigation.

we put up full screen what he said on that. do you believe him on that point? >> yeah i do believe him, because it would be easy for him to get out that he did meet with him, but again you heard the president. he doesn't think hillary clinton did anything wrong. he just broadcast it yesterday, to jim comey, and loretta lynch, how he wants them to rule. david: gregg jarrett, fox news. greg, thank you very much. melissa. melissa: second paris attack, new details on the deadly belgium bombings and brussels wasn't the original target. plus the fight to raise the minimum wage. how it could end up costing a whole generation of workers their first job. white castle's vice president, jamie richardson sounds off on that one. that is coming up next. ♪ .

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melissa: businesses in the big apple deal with a big wage hike in two years. new york city is raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour by

2018. san francisco joins the $15 club in 2023. businesses are scrambling to come up with ways to cope. here to weigh in, jamie richardson, white cost sill vice president. jamie, thanks for joining us. this has become a real hot topic this election season. every time they bring it it they call living wage. folks running restaurant are getting rich off the backs of workers. i want to run through some of the numbers for people that are real. what would it mean to your restaurant in particular? >> well, for us, melissa, first thing we have to do when we're looking at 67% increase in our biggest investment in that cost, we would have to look how can we raise prices? how can we find a way to balance off the added cost. other thing it would prevent us from doing, opening new restaurants and creating new jobs we want to create which is what we're best as family-owned business after 95 years. melissa: we're not talking about this in the hypothetical. you have 30 restaurants into

new york city under white castle brand. this is something that would impact you. a lot of your jobs are first job out there. you're going to get minimum wage. how exactly would you deal with it? they say you're taking home these enormous profits but in fact your profit margin is one to 2%, right? >> that's right. so at end of the day for every dollar in sales we take home a penny or two if it is good year. we had one point 49 restaurants in new york. today we're in the mid 30s. our hope is get back up closer to 50. that is difficult to do facing a whole lost generation of young people who might never get the first job, first opportunity to make a difference in their neighborhoods and communities. learning skills you can't get anywhere else. hospitality, problem solving, being there as part of a larger team. melissa: i read according to your math you would have to raise prize of white castle burger by 50%. that doesn't seem realistic. is that really number. is that what would you do? would you automate? more restaurants you go into ordering off a board?

>> that is great question. we're in uncharted waters. we have no idea how to deal with this. we have to see what we raise prices to. we're not raising prices 50%. people would what we call l-cubed. make leftovers last longer. we have to find a way to make our business model work. candidly it will accelerate automation. we don't say that as threat. we want to deliver hospitality. they come to white castle for hot and tasty food. we create memorable moments every day, through great people amd hospitality. members have been with us 10 years or more. we want to create more jobs. you know what? youth unemployment rate in state of new york is nearly 21%. if elected leaders think jamming this through is the way to help people of new york, they're dead wrong. melissa: i know a lot of people think that 50% price number isn't real. you're making that up to make a point. it is real though, right, is it? >> it is real. unless we want to close all the

restaurants which we don't want to do. melissa: okay. >> we would be able to raise it 50%, i don't know. but we would have to cut costs elsewhere to balance it out. melissa: thanks for coming on to give us the real math. appreciate it. david: meanwhile fight for gop delegates continues. despite a loss in wisconsin, colorado, donald trump is confident in a home state win. what does it take for him to clinch the nomination? our panel breaking that down. his path going forward, coming next. melissa: plus the democratic fight for the empire state. both clinton and sanders are not going down without a fight. we'll take you live to the campaign trail. >> i have noticed, that under the bright spotlight and scrutiny here in new york, senator sanders has had trouble answering questions. i look forward to the debate in new york, with people asking the kind of questions that new yorkers ask.

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according to "fox news poll" here in new york. billionaire businessman holding a double-digit lead in pennsylvania. so if trump wins in these two key states, what happens next? here hadley heath manning of independent women's forum. david drucker of "washington examiner," noelle nikpour, gop fund-raiser. i will start with you. let's jump ahead. everybody is trying to do the math ahead of these candidates out there. if he does win pennsylvania and new york, where do we stand? >> he stands a pretty darn good chance, melissa, because if he can manage to pull it off and wins pennsylvania and wins new york, wins them big it is on to california. california will be a little tricky because ted cruz has already gotten his ground game going and it is already been proven that ted cruz has a very food and very professional ground game and ground team. as for trump, basically just started his. that is not to say that its all

over but it is to say that you know, looking at delegates and looking ad the ground game ted cruz has a little bit of an advantage. melissa: hadley, if you look ahead, especially look what happened in colorado, the way that ted cruz, no matter how you slice it, had to do with having on a effective ground game in the area, that he was able to sew the whole thing up without a popular vote happening. he had people there to influence the delegates on the ground. trump hasn't proven he can do that you go out to california, 172 delegates, where does it leave trump in california? >> there is a stretch of states coming up in the northeast that should lean towards trump, at least from polling that we've seen including his home state of new york. we have to remember about the new york contest. this isn't truly a statewide contest. this is more of a district by district contest. even if trump is ahead in polling, he needs a sweep and strong showing in every state moving forward. he can't continue to make unforced errors, i believe it was an error for him to overlook

the state of colorado and where i live as a state delegate. he has to pay attention to every state moving forward. every delegate will matter in this year. melissa: you're a delegate. hang on for a second. i didn't know that. what happened? with as the like to your state? were you approached by cruz folks and they were there organized you never heard from trump? >> there were people organizing asking for my vote from all different sides from kasich, cruz and trump. there were opportunities for those people to speak at the state convention and we had a ballot. we voted for, several delegates among, choices, over 600 people running for national delegates. it was very involved process in the state. we started at pre-sent level, went to the county level and eventually through congressional levels. at state level this past weekend in colorado springs. it was a process. you really had to be familiar with and learn and understand in order to fully participate and fully take advantage of the system in colorado. melissa: david, we're noticing a theme what is going on here.

trump just not being very organized and relying on sort of twitter and his, you know, sort of his megaphone as opposed to infrastructure. how do you think it turns out i about the time we get out to california and beyond? >> well, look it is hard to tell. we know trump will have very good rest of april, with a lot of states in the mid-atlantic and northeast, maryland, delaware, new york, pennsylvania, rhode island, connecticut. may looks very good for cruz in my estimation. he could win indiana, pick up a lot of delegates there. he could win nebraska, pick up a good amount of delegates. there are states out in the northwest, washington, oregon, montana, that could be good for cruz. we're right it comes down to california. california you pick up some delegates statewide but you really win by winning congressional districts. you have 55 congressional districts or 52, and for every district you win you pick up three delegates.

some districts like los angeles and san francisco, for republicans live. you can do efficient campaigning going after fewer republicans in some districts where very republican districts like orange county, california, you have tons and tons of republicans. i think cruz's ground game and his data driven operation puts him in a good position to get into a contested convention and win a contested convention unless trump's late entry and rejiggering of his team can get him up to speed. we need to understand he already missed the boat in a lot of these contests. melissa: yeah. >> that is one of the reasons he is having so much trouble. melissa: speaking of missing the boat, on the stump for their front-runner dad, eric and ivanka trump won't vote in new york primary. they are not eligible to vote in the state after missing deadline to register, specifically with the republican party. >> they had a long time register and they were, you know unaware of the rules and they didn't

register in time. so they feel very, very guilty. but it is fine. i understand that. i think they have to register a year in advance and they didn't. eric and ivanka, i guess won't be voting. melissa: noelle, what do you make of this? it's a closed primary. apparently according to what i'm reading they were registered as no party affiliation which isn't totally uncommon here in new york. if you don't want to say your republican or democrat. does mean that you can't vote in primary. not that they weren't registered to vote. just not republican. >> melissa, it is kind of embarrassing, maybe a lot of new yorkers can identify. i don't think it will really do much one way or the other, other than maybe embarass them a little bit. but other than that, you know, there are a lot of new yorkers that i think can relate to that because i saw on twitter that a lot of people, a lot of feedback were like, this happened to me too, especially with the non-registration from independent. melissa: there you go.

thanks to all three of you. david? david: that is how i'm registered, independent. meanwhile, democratic fight in new york, both bernie and hillary are campaigning hard in the empire state today. clinton is currently leading in the state by 16 points according to the latest "fox news poll." fox news's ed henry is on the campaign trail in port washington, new york, with the latest. i believe we might have just ed's feed? we just lost ed henry's shot. ed henry, call us. melissa. melissa: maybe he can call in. major developments in the brussels terror attacks. arrested suspect mohamed abrini telling belgiumprosecutors that the extremists were initially planning a second attack on france in the wake of the november attacks in paris. belgium firms say the attacks were planning to hit the paris financial district and a catholic association but the series of raids and arrests in the weeks leading up to the brussels attacks pushed killers to action.

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david: now i'm told we have ed henry back. he is in port washington following hillary and bernie. ed, are you there? you're there. what is the latest? reporter: it is interesting, you mentioned the fox poll, talking about all hour on republican side with the donald trump in lead. hillary clinton has a 16 points lead over bernie sanders in our poll. that is good news. he won another state over weekend, he won wyoming.

is pattern of bernie sanders. had a run of seven or eight states in a row. he may walk away from wyoming with less delegates than hillary clinton, superdelegates, party bosses from that particular state are siding with hillary clinton. so he wins by about a dozen points in wyoming and walks away with less delegates. that is why new york is so critical. yes, bernie sanders has money to stick around. yes, he has momentum but hillary clinton has the math. she has delegates, pledged delegates, state by state. a lead of few hundred, and superdelegates, party bosses. he has to not just win new york a week from tomorrow, he has to win it big. democrats share delegates. it is not winner-take-all. say bernie sanders wins the state, he doesn't take all 247 delegates at stake in new york. if he blitz shempp, 55-45. hillary clinton walks a way with lot of delegates. based on the poll hillary clinton is in the lead. bernie sanders has to have a big

enough margin to make a difference with the delegates, david. david: interesting. you don't hear him complain quite as much as trump trillion on republican side. reporter: not yet anyway. david: ed henry, thank you very much. melissa. melissa: president obama sharing a lot of thoughts with a white ranging interview on "fox news sunday." >> this can be our century like the 20th century was as long as we don't tear each other apart because our politics values sensationalism or conflict over cooperation and, we don't have the ability to compromise. melissa: joining me now, hadley heath manning of the independent women's forum, david drucker of the "washington examiner," and gop fund-raiser, noelle nikpour. noelle, we'll start with you. frustrating to hear him say that, he talks about compromise and not something he is known for?

>> i loveliesenning to obama's myopic views how he sees america and how people are viewing us globally. remember this is a president that started off with the i'm sorry tour, the apology tour. i really think this proves that he is even more out of touch. this is why both parties, both democrat and republican parties are so fractured. it is a lot of it because of this, numbers don't add up. he keeps pushing, touting how great everything else. melissa: david he said our economy is better than any other advanced economy, we're the best universities and most innovative, he says this as his own federal reserve shows us this is the weakest, worth recovery in the history of our economy. >> right. there is the dichotomy what the president presided over since he took office. because the president is right, when you compare the united states to the economies of the rest of the country, rest of the world as a whole, he's right,

we're better off than most countries. but most voters, many voters at very least in the united states don't feel that way, on both sides of the aisle, people feel like they're left behind. they feel like they're struggling. the that the bubble could burst all over again. that has been hindrance in terms of our economicriry from business and consumer spending standpoint. think one of the things the president has not done a good job with, connecting dots between how people feel and macro numbers, doing enough to bring both of those into a place of positive outlook. melissa: hadley, sounded to me in the interview it was people just don't appreciate me the way they should. did it sound like that at all to you? >> absolutely and this president has always made a point of painting himself as a pragmatist, as a centrist, at least in terms of the rhetoric that he uses but rhetoric doesn't always match up with reality. as you said, melissa, this is not a president with history of cooperation or coordination with his political opposition but rather he has been very divisive

leader in terms of policies where he and republican party have been in sharp disagreement. he found no way to move forward. so there is plenty of blame to go around in terms of divisiveness. melissa: plenty of blame, noelle, sounds like it does after somebody is in there eight years, by the end the public is sick to death of them. they think anything else would be better. think back to the end of even, when reagan was in office, by the end, left really felt like they couldn't take another minute of it. is this just kind of the way our country works. >> well, i think it is with anything, when you're on the way out. i think it is presidential fatigue. i think people are tired of obama and i think they're ready for change. now with the focus and the disorganization of the entire presidential process that we have going on with the democrats and republicans and delegate and the counts, i think people are just wary and ready to get palm out of here and get a new change, whatever that may be.

melissa: a fresh face for to us beat up. there you go, thanks, everyone, appreciate it. david. david: senator sanders drawing thousands to his rallies in polling stations but do his supporters really know what they're voting for? coming up former senator and governor judd gregg says a lot sanders supporters doesn't have a clue how a socialist president would affect america. he's next.

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overwhelming majority of americans believe we're a strong nation because we have free market economic system. isn't that incompatable with socialism? >> absolutely. if you look at history, it doesn't appear a lot of these students were ever taught history going through high school or their college experience. countries that pursued socialist policies created tremendous hardship, not only economic hardship, but dramatic personal hardship. soviet union was socialist state. nazis was socialist state. mao was a socialist. they may be extreme examples. take less extreme examples of democracy. greece dramatic reduction in standard of living, spain, portugal. dramatic reduction of standard of living. france moving that direction, under socialist leadership. in our hemisphere, argentina, venezuela, two of the richest, most prosperous nations in the world, a few years ago, decades ago, they pursued a socialist agenda. they undermined their own

economies and reduced dramatically their standard of living. david: i want to say not all of professors in universities are imparting the wrong information about socialism. we want to quote one from texas a&m, an economics professor who says sanders policies are incompatable with the american tradition of self-responsibility, self-determination and limited government under rule of law. why isn't that message getting out in the universities in the colleges? >> well, i think because really, a lot of the faculty, especially at the high school level simply don't teach history any longer in a serious way. they don't, if they disagree with the history, they don't teach it. as a result, you see people like ronald reagan vilified, you see people like fidel castro praised. but, you know, if you're going to be intelligent participant in a democracy and vote in democracy for leadership, you have to understand what you're voting for and unfortunately there are a large number of

folks in this country have no concept of the implication of socialism reducing our standard of living and limiting our nation to prosper in the way we have. david: it would change the very nature, our constitution a large part of our constitution is based on private property, the kind of ideas that bernie sanders had would go in directly in conflict. we would have to change the constitution in order to implement the policies bernie sanders wants. >> well, you know, you could go a long way down the road as france has and greece without changing the constitution. david: they don't have our constitution. >> no, they don't but they still have property rights. but you listen to bernie sanders, we said we'll get rid of all the billionaires. think for a minute who billionaires are producing last few years? they have been mark zuckerberg, elon musk, eric schmidt, howard schwartz. these people created thousands and thousands of jobs. why? because they participated in a capitalist system, a market-oriented system where people who take risk go out and

take opportunities, raise the boat for everyone. sure they're extraordinarily successful but they brought the country along with them. that hasn't been -- people don't seem to think that through when they listen to the speeches that senator sanders is giving -- david: now they will. after this interview they will think it through, trust me, governor. >> let's hope so. david: governor judd gregg, appreciate seeing you. the press is having a field day with this moment of hillary clinton trying to swipe her metro card to get into a new york subway station. only a matter of time before the parodies came along. we have one coming up. ♪ it's more than the cloud. it's multi-layered security and flexibility. with centurylink you get advanced technology solutions. including cloud and hosting services - all from a trusted it partner.

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david: hillary clinton tried to get through that new york subway turnstile played perfectly into a saturday night live sketch. >> new york city subway ask perfect to get around. this is a been a while. is this a working metro card.

[laughter] this is the best way to get around. david: i love that secret servicefy kind of standing there. that does it for us. hope you have better luck at turnstiles. deirdre bolton and "risk & reward" starts right now. >> this is copy of my republican party registration. and, republican party, take note. i think you're going to see a whole lot more of these. i've been republican all my life. but i will never be a republican again. deirdre: colorado voters rebelling. one man even burning his registration card, you just saw that. after the state's republican committee agreed to have delegates pick candidate as opposed to the people. this is "risk & reward." i'm deirdre bolton. there are two sides to the colorado delegate haul. one side says colorado's