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�*phase �* phase of the greatest another phase of the greatest witchhunt in the history of our country. says donald trump. no president has ever gone through anything like it, and it continues because our opponents cannot forget the almost 75 million people, the highest number everfor a the almost 75 million people, the highest number ever for a sitting president, who voted for us just a few short months ago. i also want to convey my gratitude to the millions of decent, hard—working, by abiding citizens who have bravely supported these important principles in these very difficult and challenging times. our historic patriotic and beautiful movement to make america great again has onlyjust begun. in the months ahead, i have much to share with you and i look forward to continuing our incredible journey together to achieve american greatness for all of our people. there has never been anything like it. we have so much work ahead of us, and soon we will emerge with a
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vision for a bright, radiant and limitless american future. together there is nothing we cannot accomplish. we remain one people, one family and one glorious nation under code, god. may god bless all of you and may god forever bless the united states of america. james, that does not sound like a donald trump that is going to pass quietly into the shadows? the donald trump that is going to pass quietly into the shadows?- quietly into the shadows? the last time he spoke _ quietly into the shadows? the last time he spoke in _ quietly into the shadows? the last time he spoke in washington, - quietly into the shadows? the last time he spoke in washington, was quite well got, that is our long gap but that sounds very familiar. thafie but that sounds very familiar. those familiar words, _ but that sounds very familiar. those familiar words, witch-hunt, - but that sounds very familiar. those familiar words, witch-hunt, i - but that sounds very familiar. those familiar words, witch-hunt, i did - familiar words, witch—hunt, i did not think i would hear that for awhile. let us get more from our correspondence, nomia iqbal. let us start with the statement from president trump, it does not sound
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like he's going anywhere anytime soon, does not sound like the republican party can put this behind him and —— behind itand move on without him. he him and -- behind it and move on without him-— without him. he is saying in that statement _ without him. he is saying in that statement he _ without him. he is saying in that statement he will _ without him. he is saying in that statement he will be _ without him. he is saying in that statement he will be back. - without him. he is saying in that i statement he will be back. donald trump was fairly confident he would be acquitted. although we had the drama this morning of witnesses being called which meant the trial could take longer, diverse sources which suggested donald trump was furious about that, he wanted to wrapped up as quickly as possible. there is a lot of bipartisan support for this, there is a lot of bipartisan support forthis, more there is a lot of bipartisan support for this, more than there has been for this, more than there has been for a long time, but what the democrats wanted was for him to be convicted. then there would have been another fort which would require a simple majority to stop him from ever running for office again. that is not going to happen stop donald trump could run for
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office in 2024, he has not said if he will or will not but the option is there for him. i he will or will not but the option is there for him.— is there for him. i am confused havin: is there for him. i am confused having seen — is there for him. i am confused having seen senator— is there for him. i am confusedj having seen senator mcconnell speech, he condemned everything about the ex—president�*s actions and yet he voted to acquit. it is interesting. _ yet he voted to acquit. it is interesting. just _ yet he voted to acquit. it 3 interesting. just listening to him, he would have thought he voted guilty for mr trump. some of the comments he made were really tough. he basically said that he was morally and practically responsible for what happens onjanuary six. he said that president trump, i took some notes, could have ended the rights. he said he put vice president mike pence at risk. we saw the video earlier in the week of the evidence presented by the democrats, mike pence being ushered away and
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the mob was shouting, hang mike pence. donald trump was tweeting at the same time that mike pence had let him down. mike pence was therefore procedural duties regarding the election. mitch mcconnell went on but in the end he said that the democrats lacked the jurisdiction to convicted donald trump, it was unconstitutional. what is interesting about mitch mcconnell, he is essentially saying donald trump could have been found guilty if he was still in office. remembering that mitch mcconnell insisted that the trial could not start until the 19th of january so donald trump was never going to be convicted before the inauguration. mitch mcconnell is seen as one of the most calculating politicians here in the senate and what we saw there is mitch mcconnell doing what he does best.
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there is mitch mcconnell doing what he does itest-— there is mitch mcconnell doing what he does best. nomia iqbal thank you very much- — he does best. nomia iqbal thank you very much- let _ he does best. nomia iqbal thank you very much. let us _ he does best. nomia iqbal thank you very much. let us cross _ he does best. nomia iqbal thank you very much. let us cross to _ he does best. nomia iqbal thank you very much. let us cross to professor| very much. let us cross to professor of law. 57 votes, does not mean conviction, it means acquittal but even so, 57 votes including seven republicans is quite something. yes. republicans is quite something. yes, that is seven — republicans is quite something. yes, that is seven times _ republicans is quite something. yes, that is seven times more than the total_ that is seven times more than the total number of senators who have ever previously voted to convict the president— ever previously voted to convict the president of their own party. only one senator had never done that, mitt romney at trump's first impeachment trial. for mitt romney at trump's first im eachment trial. ., , .,. impeachment trial. for impeachment trials in us history _ impeachment trial. for impeachment trials in us history and _ impeachment trial. for impeachment trials in us history and four— impeachment trial. for impeachment trials in us history and four mac- trials in us history and four mac acquittals. it is usually hard to get the guilty verdict. is that what america plans, to make it so hard? certainly the founders wanted to make _ certainly the founders wanted to make it — certainly the founders wanted to make it hard but i do not think they anticipated — make it hard but i do not think they anticipated just how hard it would be because the underrated the impact of partisan _ be because the underrated the impact of partisan bias on the process. it
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is extremely rare, until today almost — is extremely rare, until today almost unknown but any senator to convicted _ almost unknown but any senator to convicted a — almost unknown but any senator to convicted a president of his own partv _ convicted a president of his own party. that _ convicted a president of his own party. that party division is not something the founding fathers anticipated back in 778 although it began _ anticipated back in 778 although it began to— anticipated back in 778 although it began to emerge soon afterwards. it began to emerge soon afterwards. [it is began to emerge soon afterwards. it is interesting that mitch mcconnell and his remarks, i have never seen him so angry, he is usually famous for his inscrutable expression but he was pretty angry when condemning president trump and explaining why he was voting not to convicted him. he was protecting the integrity of the impeachment process, saying it is not the final form for american justice but president trump could still be liable for his actions in a criminal court. can you explain the difference between the two standards here? ,, ., a ., here? sure, what mcconnell said was that trum- here? sure, what mcconnell said was that trump was _
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here? sure, what mcconnell said was that trump was both _ here? sure, what mcconnell said was that trump was both practically - here? sure, what mcconnell said was that trump was both practically and l that trump was both practically and morally— that trump was both practically and morally responsible for what happened and he strongly suggested that if— happened and he strongly suggested that if trump were still in office mcconnell would have voted to convicted but then he said supposedly the constitution only allows _ supposedly the constitution only allows the impeachment of currently serving _ allows the impeachment of currently serving officials rather than once you're _ serving officials rather than once you're out — serving officials rather than once you're out of office. i think frankly— you're out of office. i think frankly that is utterly false and nothing — frankly that is utterly false and nothing in the constitution actually makes _ nothing in the constitution actually makes a _ nothing in the constitution actually makes a distinction like that. however. _ makes a distinction like that. however, this allows mcconnell on one hand _ however, this allows mcconnell on one hand to condemn which updates and disassociate himself from it but on the _ and disassociate himself from it but on the other hand avoid annoying and angering _ on the other hand avoid annoying and angering the republican base by actually— angering the republican base by actually voting to convicted so it is a clever— actually voting to convicted so it is a clever manoeuvre on the part of mcconneit — is a clever manoeuvre on the part of mcconnell. he is the person principally responsible for the fact the trial— principally responsible for the fact the trial was not hailed while trump was still— the trial was not hailed while trump was still in — the trial was not hailed while trump was still in office because he insisted _ was still in office because he insisted it could not be and he refused — insisted it could not be and he refused to make any agreements with senate _ refused to make any agreements with senate democrats to allow their child _ senate democrats to allow their child begin faster. do
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senate democrats to allow their child begin faster.— child begin faster. do you think impeachment _ child begin faster. do you think impeachment has _ child begin faster. do you think impeachment has no _ child begin faster. do you think impeachment has no been - child begin faster. do you think - impeachment has no been weaponised? will we see more impeachment is, it will not be a rider take but it will become a political tool of vengeance as some democrats —— republicans have described it? i as some democrats -- republicans have described it?— have described it? i think it is very unlikely _ have described it? i think it is very unlikely unless _ have described it? i think it is very unlikely unless we - have described it? i think it is very unlikely unless we get i have described it? i think it is - very unlikely unless we get another president— very unlikely unless we get another president who has engaged in as much egregious _ president who has engaged in as much egregious misconduct as trump did. it is egregious misconduct as trump did. it is not _ egregious misconduct as trump did. it is not clear that the democrats gained _ it is not clear that the democrats gained more than modest political ground _ gained more than modest political ground from the two impeachment of trump _ ground from the two impeachment of trump in _ ground from the two impeachment of trump. in the impeachment of bill clinton _ trump. in the impeachment of bill clinton in — trump. in the impeachment of bill clinton in 1998, the republicans clinton in1998, the republicans probably— clinton in 1998, the republicans probably lost some political ground for that _ probably lost some political ground for that. so while impeachment might be used _ for that. so while impeachment might be used more often than in some areas _ be used more often than in some areas of— be used more often than in some areas of american history, i am sceptical— areas of american history, i am sceptical it _ areas of american history, i am sceptical it will become an everyday occurrence — sceptical it will become an everyday occurrence-— sceptical it will become an everyday occurrence. ., . ., ~ occurrence. thank you so much. thank ou. occurrence. thank you so much. thank you spectators _ occurrence. thank you so much. thank you spectators of _ occurrence. thank you so much. thank you. spectators of american _ occurrence. thank you so much. thank you. spectators of american history i you. spectators of american history
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weight, into hundred years to get one impeachment trial and in the last 20 years, like red buses, they have had three. we will speak to a professor of federaljurisprudence. thank you so much forjoining us. some people have expect to two or three republican senators to defect and instead it was seven. yes. three republican senators to defect and instead it was seven.— and instead it was seven. yes, that was a surprise- _ and instead it was seven. yes, that was a surprise. i _ and instead it was seven. yes, that was a surprise. i do _ and instead it was seven. yes, that was a surprise. i do not _ and instead it was seven. yes, that was a surprise. i do not know - and instead it was seven. yes, that was a surprise. i do not know that. was a surprise. i do not know that anyone expected senator burr, many thought senator cassidy mightjoin thought senator cassidy might join but thought senator cassidy mightjoin but beyond the five we already knew about that was a surprise. truth? but beyond the five we already knew about that was a surprise.— about that was a surprise. why was the trial so — about that was a surprise. why was the trial so short? _ about that was a surprise. why was the trial so short? i _ about that was a surprise. why was the trial so short? i don't _ about that was a surprise. why was the trial so short? i don't think- the trial so short? i don't think there was _ the trial so short? i don't think there was much _ the trial so short? i don't think there was much doubt - the trial so short? i don't think there was much doubt about . the trial so short? i don't think. there was much doubt about what the trial so short? i don't think- there was much doubt about what had happened. the democrats made a very powerful case using entirely public materials, it was not a matter of taking depositions and having a
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lengthy investigation. also i think the white house wants to get on with its agenda. it is facing a number of important crises right now and they don't want to be diverted into a long trial. don't want to be diverted into a lona trial. ., , don't want to be diverted into a long trial-— long trial. professor, mitch mcconnell— long trial. professor, mitch mcconnell said _ long trial. professor, mitch mcconnell said that - long trial. professor, mitch mcconnell said that trump| long trial. professor, mitch - mcconnell said that trump used the 74 million people who voted for him as a human shield against criticism. there is nevertheless a lot of anger among rank—and—file republicans, not in washington, people who did vote for president trump who do see this as political theatre and have seen democrats out to get him for the last four years, where does this leave then? is there any hope for unity and has this child made that more difficult? it unity and has this child made that more difficult?— more difficult? it should not. it ma . i more difficult? it should not. it mav- i could — more difficult? it should not. it may. i could not— more difficult? it should not. it may. i could not disagree - more difficult? it should not. it may. i could not disagree more more difficult? it should not. it - may. i could not disagree more with my colleague who said that claims
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that the constitution bar trying private citizens, utterly false. nothing in the constitution or nats, i think that is a fanciful, preposterous claim. i think we should listen to what senator mcconnell said. i am a democrat, should listen to what senator mcconnell said. iam a democrat, i never thought i would say pay more attention to mitch mcconnell�*s speeches. when he quoted article two, section four that only several officers can be convicted, he was not making that up. it does not come out of thin air. your commentators won't talk about the politics, but talk about the law. it seems to be the constitution held and institutions have served us well. persons in the senates and in the house who met after all this turmoil and voted that night to accept the electoral slate, 60 judges, many
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and voted that night to accept the electoralslate, 60judges, many of them republican employees who rejected donald trump's suit, various election officials that he has trashed and his tweets, all stood up against him. and i think the vote today is a good example of that. i think the vote today is a good example of that. ithink if the vote today is a good example of that. i think if you stripped away the explicit constitutional bar against trying private citizens, donald trump would have been convicted and i think that is exactly what mitch mcconnell said and i think he would have voted for it. he made the case himself and his final address.— final address. professor, the impeachment _ final address. professor, the impeachment trial, - final address. professor, the impeachment trial, clearly . final address. professor, the i impeachment trial, clearly the democrats failed to prevent him running again but if he faces legal jeopardy and if he's convicted in any criminal court, does the aloe —— the law allow for him to be disbarred in that context? is there anything which could stop him holding office again legally? yes. holding office again legally? yes, there are two _
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holding office again legally? yes, there are two criminal— holding office again legally? was there are two criminal statutes on point, section 2383 and 2384 of the us criminal court provides for a penalty for incitement. it does bar someone for holding public office afterwards. the second provides for 20 years of imprisonment and i think it is quite possible he will face some jeopardy it is quite possible he will face somejeopardy in it is quite possible he will face some jeopardy in criminal courts. professor, has impeachment lost its sting? i professor, has impeachment lost its stint? ., , , professor, has impeachment lost its stint? ., , professor, has impeachment lost its stint? sting? i doubt it. there is a reason wh these sting? i doubt it. there is a reason why these impeachment _ sting? i doubt it. there is a reason why these impeachment are - sting? i doubt it. there is a reason. why these impeachment are coming more quickly. it has to do with the plebiscite nature of our democracy, the brexit vote is a good example of this, the increasing use of polling in referendums, legislating initiatives. if we lose the house, speaking as a democrat, if we lose a house in 2022, i have no doubt that the republican majority will unleash
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impeachment talk, it will be fanciful as it was with bill clinton, not substantial as it was with donald trump buy do not think we have seen the last impeachment process. we have seen the last impeachment rocess. . ~' we have seen the last impeachment rocess. . ~ , ., y we have seen the last impeachment rocess. ., ~ , ., , . process. thank you very much indeed for “oininu process. thank you very much indeed forjoining us. — process. thank you very much indeed forjoining us, professor. _ process. thank you very much indeed forjoining us, professor. let- process. thank you very much indeed forjoining us, professor. let us- forjoining us, professor. let us get some reaction from the national political director for hillary clinton in 2016. thank you for joining us. your reaction to the verdict, you surprised by anything? i am not surprised. there is a sense of clarity which is, some folks wonder whether the republicans would come over, if this was different. the messages the republican party is the party of trump. it is also clear to say there is nothing a republican party —— president can do to be convicted by his party. those two messages are really important for democrats as the go forward. i also
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think on the positive side, there were seven republicans that can start to build relationships together as the biden administration moves forward. even knowing this is the end of it, it still. to take, once again that the body could not stand together and draw a line and see mac this is crossing the line for any former president to do. —— and say this is crossing the line. you say it is a party of trump bobby saw strong condemnation from mitch mcconnell, it is clear many of the establishment leaders feel they can break from him establishment leaders feel they can breakfrom him so establishment leaders feel they can break from him so where do to support life? i break from him so where do to support life?— break from him so where do to support life? break from him so where do to su ort life? ~ ., , ., support life? i think that will be a cuestion. support life? i think that will be a question- use _ support life? i think that will be a question. use a _ support life? i think that will be a question. use a mac— support life? i think that will be a question. use a mac the - support life? i think that will be a i question. use a mac the statement from trump come out and that will change dynamics. —— you saw this statement. the republicans will have
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to content with a trump support group in the senate and in the house which changes the dynamic with the biden administration and with senators in the senate in ways many democrats hoped there would be a different unifying at this point where people could work together. certainly there might be some but trump was quite clear he is not going away. trump was quite clear he is not going away-— trump was quite clear he is not auoin awa . ., ., , ,, ., trump was quite clear he is not auoin awa. ., ., , ,, ., going away. how does the senate come out of this? i— going away. how does the senate come out of this? i think what _ going away. how does the senate come out of this? i think what you _ going away. how does the senate come out of this? i think what you saw - going away. how does the senate come out of this? i think what you saw in - out of this? i think what you saw in the senate. _ out of this? i think what you saw in the senate. as _ out of this? i think what you saw in the senate, as some _ out of this? i think what you saw in the senate, as some folks - out of this? i think what you saw in the senate, as some folks working | the senate, as some folks working together. seven is a group of republicans or democrats to work with going forward. secondly, because this was shortened, they can now get a business that needs to be done by the administration, people in their states are asking for help with covid and economic challenges so hopefully we can move to those opportunities, the question is going to be how will trump react to any kind of unification in the senate and anyways republicans and
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democrats come together. what will trump do now he knows he is acquitted and knowing he feels i guess pretty good right now. we should point out those republican senators who voted with democrats to have a lot of political cover, several have just been re—elected so they're safe six years and richard barton is retiring so where do you see a more long—term sense that republicans and democrats can work together because trump supporters, ted cruz, marco rubio, they voted to acquit? ted cruz, marco rubio, they voted to acauit? , . , ted cruz, marco rubio, they voted to acauit? , ., , ., ., ., acquit? usually i am the commentator of ho -e and acquit? usually i am the commentator of hope and seeing _ acquit? usually i am the commentator of hope and seeing it _ acquit? usually i am the commentator of hope and seeing it come _ acquit? usually i am the commentator of hope and seeing it come together i of hope and seeing it come together and you are correct, i see a smaller group than i would have liked, seven. uc liz cheney in the house who stood up at a key moment. you see congresswoman herrera come out as well from washington. so you are beginning to build that so the long
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course of history and long course of justice which are hoping to build on from the biden administration, you have a group of folks you can work with as you move forward and you do the people's work and maybe put this chapter behind us. and the really important thing is what do people do, like mcconnell when trump tries to insert himself in negotiations and the progress of america? for about three _ and the progress of america? for about three or four hours we all went down this massive detour today about whether or not witnesses would be called. it looked like house managers really wanted that but the senate in the end said no, let us not do that so can be read as subtext into that that the senate just wanted to get this done as quickly as possible? that just wanted to get this done as quickly as possible?— just wanted to get this done as quickly as possible? that is right. you have to _ quickly as possible? that is right. you have to remember _ quickly as possible? that is right. you have to remember that - quickly as possible? that is right. you have to remember that in - quickly as possible? that is right. | you have to remember that in the chamber there is expectation for something to end and you will move on so it is very tough to change that timeline. we had a couple of
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hours where we thought this would be extended. i suspect immediately there where the logistics of how will we get all the other work that has been waiting for this child to be done so you can start to work with people. i am certain they are hearing from people across america, they were not tuned into this as much as they were in the last impeachment. they are tuned in to how do i get my vaccine, how do i get back to work and get my kids to school? that was a pleasure for everyone in the chamber including the biden administration and the republicans in the house and the senate. i republicans in the house and the senate. ., , ., senate. i agree with you there, amanda- _ senate. i agree with you there, amanda. thank _ senate. i agree with you there, amanda. thank you _ senate. i agree with you there, amanda. thank you very - senate. i agree with you there, amanda. thank you very much | senate. i agree with you there, i amanda. thank you very much for joining us. for more, let us speak to ron christie, former senior adviser to george w bush. welcome to the programme. the trial is over, no surprises but what do you think is the biggest challenge i for
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republicans?— the biggest challenge i for republicans? the biggest challenge i for reublicans? ., republicans? good evening to you, nice to see — republicans? good evening to you, nice to see you — republicans? good evening to you, nice to see you. i _ republicans? good evening to you, nice to see you. i think _ republicans? good evening to you, nice to see you. i think the - republicans? good evening to you, nice to see you. i think the biggest| nice to see you. i think the biggest challenge for republicans is establishing who we are as a party moving forward, i with a party of donald and one ideology or are we a party of ideas and concepts? the question for me is how do we move past this moment in american history? yes democrats are upset at republicans but how do we unify the country. it is a very difficult time with his pandemic, there are so many other serious issues. i am with his pandemic, there are so many other serious issues.— other serious issues. i am looking at the result _ other serious issues. i am looking at the result of _ other serious issues. i am looking at the result of the _ other serious issues. i am looking at the result of the vote _ other serious issues. i am looking at the result of the vote 57-43, i at the result of the vote 57—43, which of them change their minds from tuesday to now.— which of them change their minds from tuesday to now. good evening to ou. the from tuesday to now. good evening to you the ones — from tuesday to now. good evening to you. the ones which _ from tuesday to now. good evening to you. the ones which surprised - from tuesday to now. good evening to you. the ones which surprised me - you. the ones which surprised me were cassidy from... and to me from pennsylvania. cassidy is a safe
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trump state but you look pennsylvania and carolina, those two are retiring so they will not face the recrimination of their constituents for having voted to impeach the president. cassidy for me voted to move forward on a constitutional basis but i did not anticipate he would vote to convict the president of this impeachment article. i the president of this impeachment article. .., . the president of this impeachment article. _, . .,, article. i correct in saying he has already been _ article. i correct in saying he has already been rebuked _ article. i correct in saying he has already been rebuked by - article. i correct in saying he has already been rebuked by his - article. i correct in saying he hasl already been rebuked by his party article. i correct in saying he has - already been rebuked by his party in louisiana? if that is the case, what hope is there for other republicans who might want to cross the and work for unity, in your words, who might want to cross the and work for unity, in yourwords, discuss ideas and concepts? mr; for unity, in your words, discuss ideas and concepts?— for unity, in your words, discuss ideas and concepts? my good friend the representative _ ideas and concepts? my good friend the representative from _ ideas and concepts? my good friend the representative from wyoming i ideas and concepts? my good friend i the representative from wyoming has been censured by her party and rebuked but she did what she thought
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was best, she looked at the evidence and she voted her conscience. she voted what she thought was best for her state. as republicans we have to stop this notion that unless you are lock stock and barrel behind donald trump for everything, therefore you are on the outs. you have elected 700,000 by your constituents, this is notjust 700,000 by your constituents, this is not just to 700,000 by your constituents, this is notjust to represent one individual so we as a party have to say we need to step back and examine whether or not we are voting for donald trump or whether we are voting to uphold our constitutional oath under constitutional responsibilities. in oath under constitutional responsibilities.- oath under constitutional responsibilities. oath under constitutional resonsibilities. , ., , ., responsibilities. in my home state of new hampshire, _ responsibilities. in my home state of new hampshire, there - responsibilities. in my home state of new hampshire, there are - responsibilities. in my home state of new hampshire, there are a i responsibilities. in my home state of new hampshire, there are a lot responsibilities. in my home state i of new hampshire, there are a lot of republicans who voted for donald trump because they disliked what the republican party stood for. how would you bring them on—board because that not changed? i would you bring them on-board because that not changed? i think republicans _ because that not changed? i think republicans and _ because that not changed? i think republicans and democrats - because that not changed? i think republicans and democrats alike l because that not changed? i think i republicans and democrats alike for the last few decades have listened
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to the special interests in washington, dc and not listen to their constituents who elected them. the dissatisfaction you find in new hampshire is really felt across the country. donald trump channelled into that and said, i hear you and i understand you and i will give a voice to watchers dissatisfaction is. republicans and democrats alike would be well advised to tap into the sense of anger and channel this anger and instead focus on the business of the american people. we have the pandemic and millions of people infected by a coronavirus, let us move together in a bipartisan fashion and get back to normal, get your kids back to school, get the economy working and then these politicians will find themselves in much greater favour than they find themselves at the moment. jane mentioned _ themselves at the moment. jane mentioned new _ themselves at the moment. jane mentioned new hampshire, you will forgive me but that makes we think about elections, you might think i
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am insane but 2024, i notice ridiculously early but where does this leave us with that republican race now that every republican in office has declared a position? i am lookin: at office has declared a position? i am looking at this _ office has declared a position? i am looking at this and _ office has declared a position? i —n looking at this and 2024, you're not crazy to say it because we are all sitting here thinking about it. i think it is fascinating that the vice president mike pence has not moved back to indiana, he's still here in washington, dc. he is on one of the most conservative think tanks in america he undoubtedly is going to unleash a bit. so is... you can play the outsider, i can channel the conservative voice but i am not donald trump so look right here and right now for the race to begin and the jostling to begin for the republican nominee for the president of united states in 2024 anterior in
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2021. ., , ., ~ _, , 2021. ron christie, thank you very much forjoining _ 2021. ron christie, thank you very much forjoining us, _ 2021. ron christie, thank you very much forjoining us, very - much forjoining us, very interesting that he mentioned nikki haley who said yesterday that donald trump should be exiled. there are clear breaks and fissures that have occurred. the former us president donald trump has been acquitted by the us senate and his second impeachment trial in 12 months. fellow republicans shielded him from the deadly assault by his supporters on the capital last month. the senate fell short of the two thirds majority needed to convict mr trump on that same charge of incitement to rebellion. letters here the formal announcement. fill" rebellion. letters here the formal announcement.— rebellion. letters here the formal announcement. .,, ., announcement. our 47, then those are 43. the
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announcement. our 47, then those are 43- the senate — announcement. our 47, then those are 43. the senate response _ announcement. our 47, then those are 43. the senate response to _ announcement. our 47, then those are 43. the senate response to donald - 43. the senate response to donald trump former president of the united states is not guilty of the charge of impeachment and the article will be entered according to the judgment of the senate. as follows the senate having tried donald trump former president of the united states, exhibited against him by the house of the senate, two thirds of the senate president found him not guilty of the charge is therefore ordered in thejudge guilty of the charge is therefore ordered in the judge that the set down of donald trump be is hereby acquitted of the charge and said article. . . , acquitted of the charge and said article. ., ., , ,, ., ., acquitted of the charge and said article. ., ,, ., ., ., article. that was senator patrick lee who was _ article. that was senator patrick lee who was the _ article. that was senator patrick lee who was the presiding - article. that was senator patrick i lee who was the presiding senator. also a juror himself and a witness, the trial was held at the scene of the trial was held at the scene of the crime. nomia iqbal is on capitol hill. a very puzzling day. the
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senator thought they might have a look at witnesses but they didn't, was their sons they want get this wrapped up? i was their sons they want get this wrapped up?— was their sons they want get this wrapped up? was their sons they want get this wra-edu-? wrapped up? i think so, there was a drama this — wrapped up? i think so, there was a drama this morning, _ wrapped up? i think so, there was a drama this morning, this _ wrapped up? i think so, there was a drama this morning, this trial- wrapped up? i think so, there was a drama this morning, this trial was i drama this morning, this trial was not meant to have any kind of cliffhanger. there was the expectation donald trump would be acquitted swiftly. this is based around a phone call between him and republican kevin mccarthy in which she appeared to suggest that he was on the side of rioters as they were ransacking congress. but the trial went as planned and it was swiftly decided there would not be a call to witnesses and i imagine democrats will get criticism for that because they wanted to call witnesses and then the agreed with republicans that they would not. republican said if you have witnesses, so will we so we could have ended up in the position where the trial could have dragged on for a long time which both sides did not want to see
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happen. many senators here had flights ready to return to their respective states. so i think there was this hope, let as get this done quickly. especially considering we knew how it would end, we knew donald trump would be acquitted at some point and even if they had witnesses, it might not have made any difference. witnesses, it might not have made any difference-— witnesses, it might not have made any difference. nomia iqbal mac for us on capitol— any difference. nomia iqbal mac for us on capitol hill, _ any difference. nomia iqbal mac for us on capitol hill, it _ any difference. nomia iqbal mac for us on capitol hill, it has _ any difference. nomia iqbal mac for us on capitol hill, it has been - any difference. nomia iqbal mac for us on capitol hill, it has been an i us on capitol hill, it has been an extraordinary day. another day of ups and downs. we thought we would be here for many days to come but the trial went ahead and the final result was an acquittal of donald trump. and of course we will have much more on this at the top of the hour as we continue to speak to guests from
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washington reacting on the acquittal of donald trump, 57—43, falling short of that two thirds majority.
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