that was yarden along with yarden�*s husband and her four—year—old. that was the day carmel's mother was murdered outside the home. as carmel was taken away we understand she saw her mother's body outside her home. since then, the one thing we know, two teenagers who were released in the previous humanitarian deal were able to tell us that they were held with carmel and so we know carmel was alive at least at that point. white met at what point was that, how long ago was that? during the first humanitarian deal in november after 5a, 55 days. they told us they were held under quite harsh conditions and that carmel actually helps them. she made them keep a journal and practice yoga. and when they were released, they didn't know they were released, they didn't know they were released, they didn't know they were being released and neither did carmel. they werejust they were being released and neither did carmel. they were just taken away and carmel was left behind alone. at that time we thought during the first humanitarian deal when my cousin yarden came