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i mean, it bordered on susan necheles i think shaming a sex worker. i mean, it felt like that to me. i mean, the questions, there were weren't one or two, they went on and on. just very uncomfortable. it felt like something that might have happened three decades ago, and stormy daniels kept coming back and pointing out this was her job whether it was selling merchandise, selling her story, this is how she was making a living or making pornographic films. just because she is a pornographic star doesn't mean that she can just -- any guy can just have sex with her, and that's sort of what came across to me in the exchanges. stormy daniels really held her ground on that, but i just -- the questioning was uncomfortable to me. i think lawrence was right in that maybe the temperature didn't go up in terms of the voices, but my temperature went up just listening to the whole thing. it was uncomfortable. how did you take it, lisa? did you have the same? >> i did. as i remind our viewers all the time, i sat through two. e. jean carroll trials. this was very muc
i mean, it bordered on susan necheles i think shaming a sex worker. i mean, it felt like that to me. i mean, the questions, there were weren't one or two, they went on and on. just very uncomfortable. it felt like something that might have happened three decades ago, and stormy daniels kept coming back and pointing out this was her job whether it was selling merchandise, selling her story, this is how she was making a living or making pornographic films. just because she is a pornographic star...
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she would force susan necheles to find the quote multiple times, susan necheles couldn't find because stormy daniels actually didn't say that. she may have said something similar to that, but not even close. this went back and forth, the badgering. i understand that they need to have a narrative and they're trying to make her out as an opportunist who profited from this and donald trump is a victim, but i was just surprised at the lengths they went today to shame her on the stand. it was kind of not even just the sex stuff, it was the nuts and sluts. they were basically calling her crazy at one point for other things that happened in her life. >> and just the one you were talking about, i'm going to put that back up. isn't it a fact you keep posting on social media how you're going to be instrumental in putting president trump on jail? she said show me where i said that? all right, if we could show the witness j-43 please just for the witness and parties. do you recognize that as your post? stormy daniels -- yes. >> necheles -- and. >> and i don't see the words. indeed, she said someb
she would force susan necheles to find the quote multiple times, susan necheles couldn't find because stormy daniels actually didn't say that. she may have said something similar to that, but not even close. this went back and forth, the badgering. i understand that they need to have a narrative and they're trying to make her out as an opportunist who profited from this and donald trump is a victim, but i was just surprised at the lengths they went today to shame her on the stand. it was kind...
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susan necheles is really experienced. she does not forget to object. so when you have gamesmanship, i mean, they want this in the case. >> a calculation. >> wait until summation. they will say look what they did with the case. they tried to call stormy daniels. they wanted this to be as salacious as possible because they don't have a case and they wanted to bring in all this stuff. that allows them to do something, because to this point there is no counter narrative. there is nothing. as we all set here, there is one narrative consistent with the evidence. i'm not saying this is a bad strategy, but they have to do something. you will hear in summation, like look at the birdie over here. so that is why the district attorney knows this is what defense lawyers do. so they say it should not have come in, we are complaining, judge. you know they are going to use it. judge merchan sat through 1 million of these cases. he knows it. he is expecting slightly better from the lawyers and saying, i'm not going to listen to gamesmanship. you should have objected, y
susan necheles is really experienced. she does not forget to object. so when you have gamesmanship, i mean, they want this in the case. >> a calculation. >> wait until summation. they will say look what they did with the case. they tried to call stormy daniels. they wanted this to be as salacious as possible because they don't have a case and they wanted to bring in all this stuff. that allows them to do something, because to this point there is no counter narrative. there is...
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listening to the questions from susan necheles. understanding that susan necheles might have some moments she's trying to bear out. there are some moments with susan necheles plans to bear out, play out for stormy daniels that could catch her off guard. she seems more prepared for many of these exchanges going into this. certainly going to be lots of fireworks today throughout this cross examination and then moving on to redirect. >> yasmin, stay with us as you continue to read this google document, we're going to keep our eyes on it as well. i do want to get your take, charles, on how this cross examination today has begun. >> expected this is not something that is a surprise to me. i think that stormy daniels has been billed for a very long time as being one of the premier witnesses for the prosecution, so you should expect that she's going to garner a significant amount of attention from the defense in terms of attacking her credibility. for viewers who are listening and understanding what's going on it's important to understand
listening to the questions from susan necheles. understanding that susan necheles might have some moments she's trying to bear out. there are some moments with susan necheles plans to bear out, play out for stormy daniels that could catch her off guard. she seems more prepared for many of these exchanges going into this. certainly going to be lots of fireworks today throughout this cross examination and then moving on to redirect. >> yasmin, stay with us as you continue to read this...
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no one really laughed. >> the biggest part that i was like are hot let's susan said susan necheles, the defense attorney said. >> so you've written the scripts for is it 150 pornography movies? >> and she gets all proud stormy saying, yes. and i think she said i directed in them and so, you know how to write imaginary sexual encounter there's don't you? and isn't that what happened here? no. this was real and if i was writing about it, i would have written a better story than this one. but it just goes to her credibility. but overall, like we've been saying, she's not a material witness, she's doesn't the end. susan says, do you know something like how he keeps his checks? it keeps us checkbooks. you know, how the books and records because i kept no, no, no, no, no. >> geoff it's why i just want to say because it's interesting that you say you're going to see susan. >> she has this reputation as this tough defense attorney. she certainly was tough in the cross-examination of stormy daniels on tuesday. it's interesting how they ended today though, because the judge took a serious amount
no one really laughed. >> the biggest part that i was like are hot let's susan said susan necheles, the defense attorney said. >> so you've written the scripts for is it 150 pornography movies? >> and she gets all proud stormy saying, yes. and i think she said i directed in them and so, you know how to write imaginary sexual encounter there's don't you? and isn't that what happened here? no. this was real and if i was writing about it, i would have written a better story than...
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susan nechele, broader storm. and i even say like her body language like towards the end, she was kinda firm. i thought qarrah jokes kind of felt flat. she tried to make like three or four jokes. no one really laughed the biggest part that i was like are hot let's use and said, susan nechele, the defense attorney said, so you've written the scripts for is it 150 pornography movies? and she gets all proud stormy saying, yes. and i think she said i directed in them and so you know how to write imaginary sexual encounters, don't you and isn't that what happened here? no. this was real and if i was writing about it, i would have written a better story than this one, but it just goes to her credibility. but overall, like we've been saying she's not a material witness, she's doesn't the end. susan says, do you know something like how he keeps his checks? it keeps us checkbooks. do you know how the books and records and cab? >> no, no, no, no, no. geoff, it's just want to say because it's interesting that you say you're
susan nechele, broader storm. and i even say like her body language like towards the end, she was kinda firm. i thought qarrah jokes kind of felt flat. she tried to make like three or four jokes. no one really laughed the biggest part that i was like are hot let's use and said, susan nechele, the defense attorney said, so you've written the scripts for is it 150 pornography movies? and she gets all proud stormy saying, yes. and i think she said i directed in them and so you know how to write...
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>> susan nechele is very much focused on stormy's hatred of trump and her financial motives. today, she went into a new area which was trying to prove that the description of the sexual encounter was different in that i think was a mistake. i think that's that's a waste of time. it allowed stormy to talk about it. again, i think the judge is right. i don't think there were any major inconsistencies and that struck me as an example of one of client maintenance that this was because trump wanted to dispute the weather, the sex took place even though in my opinion, maybe you disagree, maybe you all disagree. that's just not a worthwhile area you may be right about client maintenance, but one of the things anderson that also stood out with a total silly answer from stormy. >> susan says, you testified here today that you guys never ate anything. you ordered dinner with they're never came up. that's true. well, let me read from i believe it was your book well, you said we came up and we had dinner together. so in your own book, you're saying you had dinner and now you're saying yo
>> susan nechele is very much focused on stormy's hatred of trump and her financial motives. today, she went into a new area which was trying to prove that the description of the sexual encounter was different in that i think was a mistake. i think that's that's a waste of time. it allowed stormy to talk about it. again, i think the judge is right. i don't think there were any major inconsistencies and that struck me as an example of one of client maintenance that this was because trump...
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and susan necheles said you made this all up right? and stormy daniels says no. and she said your story has completely changed, hasn't it, and daniels answering no, saying the signed statement where she denied an affair with mr. trump was done while she was trying to comply with the terms of a nondisclosure agreement in which she was paid to keep silent. the defense argued daniels has a financial stake in trying to take mr. trump down, after making more than $1 million offer story and books, a strip club tour in various items on the website, like a stormy saints of indictments candle, accusing her of selling a story that you promised will put president trump in jail, right? figure no. she responded. much of the testimony is far removed from what the presumptive gop nominee has been charged with for allegedly falsifying business records to hide a $130,000 payment to daniels ahead of the 2016 election. prosecutors say the payment was meant to keep her quiet so she couldn't derail his campaign but the defense says there was no crime, it was all a shakedown. daniels
and susan necheles said you made this all up right? and stormy daniels says no. and she said your story has completely changed, hasn't it, and daniels answering no, saying the signed statement where she denied an affair with mr. trump was done while she was trying to comply with the terms of a nondisclosure agreement in which she was paid to keep silent. the defense argued daniels has a financial stake in trying to take mr. trump down, after making more than $1 million offer story and books, a...
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in a way, susan necheles is making stormy daniels a victim. and i'm wondering how the jury is responding to this. and i say this because they say to her, i'm paraphrasing here, i won't go back to the point in which they had that back and forth, they say to her, as you guys read, that you are an adult film actress, you acted in over 150 films, you directed more than 150 films and you say you were uncomfortable as you emerge from the bathroom looking at an individual standing in front of you with boxer shorts and a t-shirt on. how could that be? aren't these situations that you are used to, being in these types of kind of sexual encounters. in a way, they're putting her in that victim position. it seems as if it is coming more from this pre me too era, they're victimizing women who feel as if they should be at fault and they're also litigating something, guys, that is not on trial. and i bring this up to say that earlier in the day, when court began, they talked about limiting instructions, limiting instructions or essentially what they'll come
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here is susan necheles talking to stormy daniels. i want to get your reaction. you've had sex and under 200 movies. and there are naked men and naked women it having sex including yourself. according to you, seeing a man sitting on a bed and a t-shirt on backer shares, it was upsetting you got lightheaded and -- yes, when you're not expecting a man twice your age to be in their underwear, i've seen my husband naked almost every day. if i came out of the bathroom and it was not my husband and it was mr. trump on the bed, i probably have the same reaction. what did you think of this line of inquiry which is you are a porn star and you're upset about a man trying to have sex with you? >> it's you are a porn star, how do you think you have the right to have consent ? because of what you do for your line of work, you must have a sign around your neck that basically says open to all. stormy daniels is clear, in my do the for a living but i choose when i do it for a living and how and when. not to do it with a 60-year-old man who i found repugnant into was looming over
here is susan necheles talking to stormy daniels. i want to get your reaction. you've had sex and under 200 movies. and there are naked men and naked women it having sex including yourself. according to you, seeing a man sitting on a bed and a t-shirt on backer shares, it was upsetting you got lightheaded and -- yes, when you're not expecting a man twice your age to be in their underwear, i've seen my husband naked almost every day. if i came out of the bathroom and it was not my husband and it...
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i don't know. >> susan nechele. and in 20 your story has changed, hasn't it? >> stormy daniels says, no, not at all. you are trying to make me say that it changed, but it hasn't hey, it's just a flavor of what this is like in the courtroom and what the jury has to think about as they're determining whether stormy daniels is credible. >> good point. let me follow up with me and melaka henderson. do you think the tough cross-examination of stormy daniels today benefited the defense? >> no, i don't think he had benefited the defense i think you'd probably benefited trump's ego. right? i mean, i think he came in today. we'd all heard that they were going to keep her on the stand and delve into things, and delve into details in some ways to try to damage her credibility. but i also think ought to try to turn her into a nasty woman, right? who would do and say anything who didn't have any credibility, who could who would make things up, who was after money. but she essentially said, yes, i'm sort of all those things. and i think made the case for the prosecution tha
i don't know. >> susan nechele. and in 20 your story has changed, hasn't it? >> stormy daniels says, no, not at all. you are trying to make me say that it changed, but it hasn't hey, it's just a flavor of what this is like in the courtroom and what the jury has to think about as they're determining whether stormy daniels is credible. >> good point. let me follow up with me and melaka henderson. do you think the tough cross-examination of stormy daniels today benefited the...
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in certain instances, as susan necheles was cross examining her. by the way, correct me if i'm wrong, to the attorneys on the panel, this is something that prosecutors would want from their witness who was up there being cross examined by susan necheles. one other note i want to make as you were talking about the importance of the witness who will be returning to the stand. i think one of the things that's so important. she completes the circle, right, the way i have been looking at this is kind of like a factory line. you have someone cutting the checks in trump tower. you have the person cutting the checks, taking those checks all the way to rhona graff to be signed by donald trump or taken to rebecca, faxing checks to madeleine westerhout, getting the checks over to donald trump, and those to be subsequently shipped back, fedexed back to trump power, completing the kind of circle and why it is. kind of these witnesses that are not as dramatic, right, are so wildly important to the prosecution's case. >> and, peter, let's talk about donald trump
in certain instances, as susan necheles was cross examining her. by the way, correct me if i'm wrong, to the attorneys on the panel, this is something that prosecutors would want from their witness who was up there being cross examined by susan necheles. one other note i want to make as you were talking about the importance of the witness who will be returning to the stand. i think one of the things that's so important. she completes the circle, right, the way i have been looking at this is...
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susan necheles "you have acted in 200 porn movies, right?" according to you, seeing a man on a bed and a t-shirt and boxer shorts was so upsetting that he got lightheaded, plotless your hands and feet and you almost fainted, right? because he was supposedly in a t-shirt and boxer shorts, you were so upset that he wanted to have with you that you couldn't speak up and say you didn't want to have with him ." daniels "correct." susan necheles " this is not the first time in a lifetime had made a pass at you, was it?" "no." but it was the first time they had a bodyguard staining site the door and they were twice my age and they were bigger than me. stormy daniels wasn't having any of it. that didn't stop the defense from 20 is the fact that she was an adult film star to discredit her and say her story doesn't add up because, well, she's had before . that is how trump's defense framed this alleged sexual encounter in court today. meanwhile , when it came to trump's role in that same alleged sexual encounter, here is how fox has been describing it.
susan necheles "you have acted in 200 porn movies, right?" according to you, seeing a man on a bed and a t-shirt and boxer shorts was so upsetting that he got lightheaded, plotless your hands and feet and you almost fainted, right? because he was supposedly in a t-shirt and boxer shorts, you were so upset that he wanted to have with you that you couldn't speak up and say you didn't want to have with him ." daniels "correct." susan necheles " this is not the first...
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susan necheles, he was playing golf himself. >> he was playing golf. i don't remember what the scores were. because i get to sit beside adam and he is active on the laptop and he could fact check this with a social media assist, we discovered that donald trump came in 62nd out of the 80 so-called celebrity golf res there. and that maury povich, he came in 30th. way ahead of donald trump. but that is one of the ways she so pointlessly stretched out this cross-examination this morning. >> absolutely. and that was probably the kindness word that stormy daniels said in response. i don't remember. maybe her memory just faltered. there was a moment explaining jokes to a lawyer and the thing that struck out at me was how funny and witty and disarming stormy daniels was and that was a weapon she used to defend herself in cross-examination. because there was just a stark contrast. a stark difference between the stormy daniels that took the stand on tuesday. she was nervous. racing through her testimony. and had to be reminded something like five times to slow d
susan necheles, he was playing golf himself. >> he was playing golf. i don't remember what the scores were. because i get to sit beside adam and he is active on the laptop and he could fact check this with a social media assist, we discovered that donald trump came in 62nd out of the 80 so-called celebrity golf res there. and that maury povich, he came in 30th. way ahead of donald trump. but that is one of the ways she so pointlessly stretched out this cross-examination this morning....
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>> susan necheles she did what she had to do. a lot of times you try different things in cross-examination and they don't all land. there were certain lines of cross that you knew were going to be a given which is she said she can speak to the dead and she had a good explanation for that. she wants to make money from this. she had a good explanation, it's not that it didn't -- it happened and she wants to make money, it's not that it's fake and she wanted to make money from it. so much else just felt by the wayside including i thought something that was sort of touching and heartbreaking and shows that the witness is smart, is careful, unflappable, where she said, no, you don't understand, all i'm saying about donald trump, the worst thing he did, is he lied about what happened. everything else that happened in that room is on me. it's my fault. it was so -- >> which was the heart of her direct testimony, that i laid there and couldn't figure out between myself how i got here. >> it was a moment where she was saying, i am not bla
>> susan necheles she did what she had to do. a lot of times you try different things in cross-examination and they don't all land. there were certain lines of cross that you knew were going to be a given which is she said she can speak to the dead and she had a good explanation for that. she wants to make money from this. she had a good explanation, it's not that it didn't -- it happened and she wants to make money, it's not that it's fake and she wanted to make money from it. so much...
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susan necheles on the other hand has body language that would indicate just the opposite. you can feel her pulling away at her side of the table from sort of the bromance that's going on on the other side. that's not the only explanation here. susan necheles was also part of the defense team for the trump organization criminal tax fraud trial that occurred in 2022. that was the trial in which allen weisselberg pled guilty in the lead up to the trial and then was forced to be a witness against the organization. as you will remember, while donald trump himself was not charged individually, the organization was, the organization was found criminally liable and paid a couple of million dollars, give or take, in fines. donald trump has never gotten over that according to people who know him and he has blamed susan necheles for that loss. the fact that she remains in his orbit and continues to represent him is a testament to the strength of her skills, but that relationship has not been repaired to the extent that it might have been had susan necheles proven successful in that t
susan necheles on the other hand has body language that would indicate just the opposite. you can feel her pulling away at her side of the table from sort of the bromance that's going on on the other side. that's not the only explanation here. susan necheles was also part of the defense team for the trump organization criminal tax fraud trial that occurred in 2022. that was the trial in which allen weisselberg pled guilty in the lead up to the trial and then was forced to be a witness against...
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trump attorney susan necheles hammering daniels years in theindustry said it gave her a lot of experience about making sex appear real daniels fighting back saying if the trump story was untrue, i would have written it a lot better, their exchanges growing heated, you've acted and had sex in over 200 movies but according to you, seeing a man sitting in bed and a t-shirt and boxer shorts was so upsetting that you almost fainted? daniels, defiant, noting mr. trump is twice her age and bigger, necheles saying you made this all up, right? daniels, forcibly responded, no, and necheles pressing, your story has complete we changed, hasn't it, daniels answering again, no, saying, this signed a statement where she denied an affair with mr. trump was done while she was trying to comply with the terms of a nondisclosure agreement in which she was paid to keep silent. today the defense argued that daniels has a financial stake in trying to take mr. trump down, after making more than $1 million offer story in books, a strip club or and various other merchandise on her website, like a $40 stormy saint
trump attorney susan necheles hammering daniels years in theindustry said it gave her a lot of experience about making sex appear real daniels fighting back saying if the trump story was untrue, i would have written it a lot better, their exchanges growing heated, you've acted and had sex in over 200 movies but according to you, seeing a man sitting in bed and a t-shirt and boxer shorts was so upsetting that you almost fainted? daniels, defiant, noting mr. trump is twice her age and bigger,...
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it was all leading to the one point that susan necheles wanted to make for the jury. question, you are looking to extort money from president trump, right? answer, false. susan necheles did not complete her cross-examination today when the court session ended . she had just begun asking stormy daniels about her attempt through her lawyer, keith davidson, to sell her straight to the national enquirer during the presidential campaign in june, 2016. stormy daniels' answer as to why she was trying to sell her story was, quote, get the story out and make some money. for most of her testimony she was wearing eyeglasses that created even more of a remove from the image of an adult actress. stormy daniels will resume her testimony on thursday morning. leading off air discussion tonight is andrew weissmann, former chief of the criminal division in the eastern district of new york. he is a msnbc legal analyst and co-author of the best-selling book, the trump indictments. the historic charging documents with commentary. also with us in the courtroom today and who will be in the
it was all leading to the one point that susan necheles wanted to make for the jury. question, you are looking to extort money from president trump, right? answer, false. susan necheles did not complete her cross-examination today when the court session ended . she had just begun asking stormy daniels about her attempt through her lawyer, keith davidson, to sell her straight to the national enquirer during the presidential campaign in june, 2016. stormy daniels' answer as to why she was trying...
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tran -- susan necheles. it is one of the reasons why i feel like even with the limiting instructions as to what they will be allowed to review during deliberations, we will also be questioning it because during cross- examination, they got into those details. >> the messy details said they go to her credibility, the messy details. >> why did susan necheles want to relitigate the condom question? >> i think it was ill-advised, but she was trying to push back on her for being such, per trailing -- portraying him that way. why not walk 10 miles from that and just stay with the basics? right in front of trop, it was a bad day. >> because if you have a position that defense has landed on it and they did not have sex, why are you relitigating if they did or did not wear -- wear a condom? >> that is how it works. >> you step back and i am just listening. >> that is my point. it is about reminding people that stormy daniels is a former adult film actress. >> good a calm them -- who wore a condom. >> as an adult film
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but on cross examination, trump's lawyer susan necheles tore into that claim. “you've been making money by claiming you had sex with donald trump for more than a decade,” she asked daniels. “i have been making money by telling my story,” daniels responded. necheles pressed on, “and the essence of your story is you had sex with president trump. and that story has made you a lot of money?" "it has also cost me a lot of money,” said daniels. the defense attorney blunt, “am i correct that you hate president trump?” "yes," daniels responded. “and you want him to go to jail?” “i want him to be held accountable.” when the day was done, stormy daniels was quickly taken from the courthouse. donald trump coming out to address reporters. >> so, this was a very big day, a very revealing day, as you see, their case is totally falling apart. >> reporter: trump did not mention stormy daniels at all. he is under a gag order that prevents him from attacking witnesses. the defense objected to her explicit testimony, but the judge said it was no grounds fo
but on cross examination, trump's lawyer susan necheles tore into that claim. “you've been making money by claiming you had sex with donald trump for more than a decade,” she asked daniels. “i have been making money by telling my story,” daniels responded. necheles pressed on, “and the essence of your story is you had sex with president trump. and that story has made you a lot of money?" "it has also cost me a lot of money,” said daniels. the defense attorney blunt, “am...
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. >> reporter: trump's attorney susan necheles ledge and often contentious cross-examination of daniels, who prosecutors say accepted a $130,000 payment from trump's former attorney michael cohen before the 2016 election. in exchange for keeping quiet about her story. necheles focus on daniels' high-profile appearances after news of her alleged sexual encounter with trump, which he denies, made headlines, and argued daniels tried to capitalize on her fame. necheles: you wanted to make more money, right? daniels: no. that's why i did 60 minutes for free. >> did you want to have sex with him? >> no. but i didn't say no. i'm not a victim. >> reporter: trump's attorney brought up daniels' career of writing, directing, and acting in adult films. necheles asked, "you have a lot of experience making phony stories about sex appear real." daniels disputed that. the sex in the films is very much real. just like what happened to me in that room. adding, if our encounter with trump was untrue, i would have written it to be a lot better. trump grimaced at the comment. >> you feel like if you had wan
. >> reporter: trump's attorney susan necheles ledge and often contentious cross-examination of daniels, who prosecutors say accepted a $130,000 payment from trump's former attorney michael cohen before the 2016 election. in exchange for keeping quiet about her story. necheles focus on daniels' high-profile appearances after news of her alleged sexual encounter with trump, which he denies, made headlines, and argued daniels tried to capitalize on her fame. necheles: you wanted to make...
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right now the searing cross examination is continuing by trump attorney susan necheles. she is slamming stormy's mostives bringing up the money angle. showing the jury how she says the porn star has profited off her claims that she and trump had that tryst back in 2006. necheles showing the jury items that make fun of trump that stormy sells. she asked stormy if a large part of the livelihood comes from the money she makes off of trump. stormy said no, but did admit she has to find a way to pay her legal bills. at one point necheles act if stormy attacked her boyfriend and if he thought she was insane. prosecutions objection prevented stormy from answering those questions. then the trial ventured into stormy daniels saying she can speak with dead relatives and necheles stormy made money telling people she can talk to the dead. the former president, when he arrived, says his attorneys are appealing the gag order that found him in criminal contempt so far ten times. >> we just filed a major motion in the appellate division concerning the absolutely unconstitutional gag ord
right now the searing cross examination is continuing by trump attorney susan necheles. she is slamming stormy's mostives bringing up the money angle. showing the jury how she says the porn star has profited off her claims that she and trump had that tryst back in 2006. necheles showing the jury items that make fun of trump that stormy sells. she asked stormy if a large part of the livelihood comes from the money she makes off of trump. stormy said no, but did admit she has to find a way to pay...
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those of us who work in manhattan are familiar with susan necheles, and she's a very good lawyer and has a good reputation as being a criminal defense attorney. so, yes, the payment is there. the only question that is whether or not donald trump had anything to do with it. but she was a necessary witness to establish that she was told to be silent, and that happened after the "access hollywood" tape hit, and she was paid for it by michael cohen. >> okay. so we had a slew of objections, catherine, from defense, they were sustained. a mistrial request. judge merchan saying that daniels was offering up more information than she was being asked to relate. how is the prosecution feeling about her testimony going into tomorrow, since it's a day off told, how might they be prepping her? >> they can't prep her because she's in the middle of cross-examination, so that's the rule. she is now the defense in the middle of the cross-examination. what the prosecution are probably think about are they going to redirect her, is she going to do what she did on direct, and just sort of spew out inform
those of us who work in manhattan are familiar with susan necheles, and she's a very good lawyer and has a good reputation as being a criminal defense attorney. so, yes, the payment is there. the only question that is whether or not donald trump had anything to do with it. but she was a necessary witness to establish that she was told to be silent, and that happened after the "access hollywood" tape hit, and she was paid for it by michael cohen. >> okay. so we had a slew of...
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susan necheles, she's very good, and she has done this many times before. >> even after the admonition from the judge, the details may not be necessary, but the details are still coming through. >> and discussing here in new york with my two legal greats, how interesting and perhaps surprising it was to learn all of these details from stormy daniels that one, the defense had not objected to anything they were saying so it was not surprising coming back from break, maybe we are going too far, we don't need to know what the floor looked like in this hotel room. do you think that's the right call in that moment, katharine? >> this is a fair judge, and he was sitting there looking at the defense and saying, i have to do this, because some appellant court might think they don't care they didn't object, i should have done something. they want all of this to come out and we will find out when susan necheles gets up for the defense, and these details are over the top and have nothing to do with the falsifying business documents. >> she does describe coming out of the bathroom and seeing trump
susan necheles, she's very good, and she has done this many times before. >> even after the admonition from the judge, the details may not be necessary, but the details are still coming through. >> and discussing here in new york with my two legal greats, how interesting and perhaps surprising it was to learn all of these details from stormy daniels that one, the defense had not objected to anything they were saying so it was not surprising coming back from break, maybe we are going...
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>> susan necheles. susan necheles. susan necheles. >> stephen: are we sure that's her name and not just how trump describes her? "okay, todd glasses does the opening statement. susan necklace does the cross, johnny bowtie here brings me my big mac, and uh-oh big judge black muumuu is mad at me again." yesterday was primary day in indiana, a fact i totally knew before i read it in the prompter right there. and in this primary, there were warnings in the results for donald trump. 'cause despite her dropping out of the race two months ago, nikki haley still pulled in nearly 22% of the vote. wow! she's not even -- that's gotta sting for trump. that's like a boss telling you "sorry, we're passing you over for the promotion and giving it to mark. may he rest in peace." now, indiana is crucial for any republican seeking the white house. in fact, a few years ago, trump said of indiana, "it's called importantville. yes, that's why they called the movie "importantville jones and the temple of doom" starring the incredible han so
>> susan necheles. susan necheles. susan necheles. >> stephen: are we sure that's her name and not just how trump describes her? "okay, todd glasses does the opening statement. susan necklace does the cross, johnny bowtie here brings me my big mac, and uh-oh big judge black muumuu is mad at me again." yesterday was primary day in indiana, a fact i totally knew before i read it in the prompter right there. and in this primary, there were warnings in the results for donald...
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this is trump attorney susan necheles speaking to stormy daniels. you're acted in porn and 206 films right and written and directed 150 sex films is that correct? so you have a lot of experience making phony stories of sex appear to be real, right? >> stormy daniels, wow, that's not how i would put it. the sex in the films is very much real just like what happened to me in that room. necheles, you've bragged about how good you are about writing porn movies and writing really good stories and really good dialogue, right? stormy daniels, yes. necheles, and now you have a story you're telling about donald ortrump, right? daniels, if that story was untrue, i would have written it to be a lot better. necheles, just so i can be clear in what you're saying you've acted and had sex in over 200 porn movies, right? 150-ish, yes. necheles, but according to you seeing a man in a t-shirt on a bed in boxer shorts you got light-headedt and almost faint. you were so upset he wanted to have sex with you you couldn't speak up and say you didn't wany to have sex with
this is trump attorney susan necheles speaking to stormy daniels. you're acted in porn and 206 films right and written and directed 150 sex films is that correct? so you have a lot of experience making phony stories of sex appear to be real, right? >> stormy daniels, wow, that's not how i would put it. the sex in the films is very much real just like what happened to me in that room. necheles, you've bragged about how good you are about writing porn movies and writing really good stories...
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donald trump's lawyer, susan necheles, sought to establish that trump's concern about the story had to do with his family, but it backfired. westerhout agreed that trump was concerned that the story would upset his family, but said he never told her that. i don't believe he specifically said that, but i could just tell that the whole situation was very unpleasant. the prosecution objected to the second part of her answer, which was stricken from the record. donald trump has sat largely alone in court without most of his family members for 15 days. eric trump has made appearances, but no one else from the family has set in court with trump at any point in this trial so far, including his wife to whom he was married when prosecutors say he slept with stormy daniels and a decade later when he paid her off to save his campaign. after testimony today, prosecutors spent the rest of the day calling a series of custodial witnesses to introduce records into evidence that have direct ties to michael cohen. before the trial began prosecutors alleged that cohen spoke to trump on the phone on octob
donald trump's lawyer, susan necheles, sought to establish that trump's concern about the story had to do with his family, but it backfired. westerhout agreed that trump was concerned that the story would upset his family, but said he never told her that. i don't believe he specifically said that, but i could just tell that the whole situation was very unpleasant. the prosecution objected to the second part of her answer, which was stricken from the record. donald trump has sat largely alone in...
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necheles. they're currently looking at an email in which a former personnel aide, personal assistant to donald trump in the white house emailed with madeleine westerhout and rhona graff over the mailing of personal checks that donald trump would have sent to him from new york and the trump organization, and this individual, john mcentee requesting that they be sent to a personal address. this is part of madeleine westerhout here making it clear that in her role, in her capacity in which she was the one who was executing and bringing these actual checks to donald trump to be signed, essentially she is one of these individuals who is helping fill out the chain of custody that the prosecution needs to bring forward to the jury about how donald trump went about sending those reimbursement checks back to michael cohen. of course you said it, though, the marquee witness that we're waiting for, michael cohen expected to testify on monday, which would lead us to believe that several additional witnesse
necheles. they're currently looking at an email in which a former personnel aide, personal assistant to donald trump in the white house emailed with madeleine westerhout and rhona graff over the mailing of personal checks that donald trump would have sent to him from new york and the trump organization, and this individual, john mcentee requesting that they be sent to a personal address. this is part of madeleine westerhout here making it clear that in her role, in her capacity in which she was...
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i mean, she has not given susan nechele has an inch on this. the question is if the questioning is effective with a jury, but but she has not conceded essentially anything every time that they bring up how much money she's made from this, she said, well, i've also lost a lot of money every time they bring up how it's boosted her reputation. she's also said that it's damaged for reputation and she has been at pretty effective at least with the eyes of the prosecutors pushing back on this. >> yeah. it's unclear how that's coming across to the jury because they're only hearing you're selling this. oh, but you're not making he money in her documentary, which is obviously her propaganda, you get a much more lengthy nuance story about how she is a mom, like how she grew up, and the fact that she doesn't really have a lot of other ways to support herself. the argument that she has probably on balance, lost money is more credible through that. but here i don't know that this is coming off terribly credible. you have these t-shirts do you have these can
i mean, she has not given susan nechele has an inch on this. the question is if the questioning is effective with a jury, but but she has not conceded essentially anything every time that they bring up how much money she's made from this, she said, well, i've also lost a lot of money every time they bring up how it's boosted her reputation. she's also said that it's damaged for reputation and she has been at pretty effective at least with the eyes of the prosecutors pushing back on this....
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the person who made it damaging to trump was susan necheles. i mean, the person who was weinstein-esque in her treatment of the person describing not rape but a sexual experience with donald trump. the person who treated her in a way that was damaging to trump was trump's defense lawyer. >> well and the mistake there -- and of course we don't really know these jurors individually, we do know this is a new york jury in a state that is even just a little bit of information, it's a solidly pro-choice state, okay? this is a state where i'm going to venture to guess as a former juror at some point myself, as a woman in the state, you know, there are going to be people on that jury, men and women, who are going to say hold up, are we going -- are we supposed to be examining the behavior of the former president, or is this just a woman being attacked? and that kind of -- that kind of device in a courtroom is such a turnoff that i could just see it putting a bad taste in jurors' mouth from the very start. and they're going to say that's the best defens
the person who made it damaging to trump was susan necheles. i mean, the person who was weinstein-esque in her treatment of the person describing not rape but a sexual experience with donald trump. the person who treated her in a way that was damaging to trump was trump's defense lawyer. >> well and the mistake there -- and of course we don't really know these jurors individually, we do know this is a new york jury in a state that is even just a little bit of information, it's a solidly...
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>> and susan necheles, it says this was a way items could be sent to you. you could get them promptly to president trump and she emphasized the word promptly, but the defense attorney did madeleine westerhout said that's right. it was watching right now and you saw this yesterday as soon as susan nicholas got up there and shade this rapid-fire questioning for madeleine westerhout they are trying to basically use her as a witness for them to make her effective to downplay that this wasn't all that unusual, that trump was 1 million people were calling trump when he was in the white house that he felt the need to call the back, that it wasn't that intentional that he wasn't seeking out allen weisselberg or michael cohen, just saying what everyone was there and it was crazy. and this was all happening at once exactly? okay. it was crazy might be their best defense. and right now, they're also juxtaposing what is like to be in the private sector versus the federal government, right? things don't move quickly. now it's your house said of personal mailing issues.
>> and susan necheles, it says this was a way items could be sent to you. you could get them promptly to president trump and she emphasized the word promptly, but the defense attorney did madeleine westerhout said that's right. it was watching right now and you saw this yesterday as soon as susan nicholas got up there and shade this rapid-fire questioning for madeleine westerhout they are trying to basically use her as a witness for them to make her effective to downplay that this wasn't...
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i thought susan necheles did a good job on her cross exam. one by one, most of the admissions that the prosecution had gotten from her she managed to curtail or at least make a little bit more uncertain. while she said yesterday, for example, that trump did read checks before he signed them, today she was more ambiguous saying that sometimes he did it absent mindedly while he was taking meetings, for example, with her, while people were passing through. she also said that when she was basically dealing with him that his attention diverted at times, and so they were really creating doubt about whether trump was focused in on the checks that he was signing or whether he was just doing so casually. now, remember, chris, also based on their amount and other things that the d.a. has presented, it's not entirely plausible that donald trump would have signed nine $35,000 checks absent mindedly, but madeleine westerhout proved to be a fairly good witness for the defense today in just sort of peeling back a number of admissions that i think the prosec
i thought susan necheles did a good job on her cross exam. one by one, most of the admissions that the prosecution had gotten from her she managed to curtail or at least make a little bit more uncertain. while she said yesterday, for example, that trump did read checks before he signed them, today she was more ambiguous saying that sometimes he did it absent mindedly while he was taking meetings, for example, with her, while people were passing through. she also said that when she was basically...
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i mean, at time susan nechele, trump's attorney and stormy daniels were talking over each other. the judge, at least twice had to tell susan nechele to let daniel's answer the questions they were certainly sparring at times. it seemed like there were a couple of points that trump's side was trying to make on this. there's stormy daniels was motivated by money going through ways that she had sold merchandise, sold candles, tried to profit off of her relation or her one night with donald trump but stormy daniels was fighting back each every part of the way when they asked her she was profiting. one of the things that daniel said was this is me doing my job, not unlike mr. trump's suggesting that he was also profiting off the indictments that he has faced both here and elsewhere. i'll also a lot of the focus was trying to find holes in squirmy. daniels story pointing out that she he told interviewers different details in 2011 and 2018 that she did not recount in new in court today or vice versa. a lot of the focus seems to be on her saying previous plea that they had dinner, but her
i mean, at time susan nechele, trump's attorney and stormy daniels were talking over each other. the judge, at least twice had to tell susan nechele to let daniel's answer the questions they were certainly sparring at times. it seemed like there were a couple of points that trump's side was trying to make on this. there's stormy daniels was motivated by money going through ways that she had sold merchandise, sold candles, tried to profit off of her relation or her one night with donald trump...
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susan nechele, you get $40 for each candle. don't you? and stormy set actually about seven. so she always had an answer and come back you can definitely see they're both they're both people who think about businesses and think about money that's true. but i'm not sure that that'll be the most important thing in drilling down on what jurors think at the store because she owned it, will have to see, but it may come down to the real details in her story whether she comes across as being honest asia boxy. thank you so much. la does come down to testimony. if i remind people this is about documents, right it does. >> this is not a trial within a trial as to whether or not this sexual encounter happened it's whether there was the allegation that was sought to be suppressed and falsified business records as a result, for the purpose of trying to avoid having the campaign impacted, they've got to bridge all those. next, today's other big testimony that got to the heart of what i was talking about the business records what if former trump aides said about a key meeting between trump
susan nechele, you get $40 for each candle. don't you? and stormy set actually about seven. so she always had an answer and come back you can definitely see they're both they're both people who think about businesses and think about money that's true. but i'm not sure that that'll be the most important thing in drilling down on what jurors think at the store because she owned it, will have to see, but it may come down to the real details in her story whether she comes across as being honest...
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susan nechele says, did you just laugh? daniel says, select it is in quotes because i'm quoting something that someone else said because i knew you don't get selected to go to jail. niclas says you just laughed about that, right objection from the prosecution. daniel says it's a typo. the judge says overruled. stormy daniels says that's why it's funny. you don't get selected to go to jail. daniel says it's not because you think this is a typo. it's not because you think it's funny at all. so the necklace asks and then stormy daniels says, no. absolutely not. so that you get a sense of how tense it was. obviously, you get the part about stormy daniels hating are, but you also get the defense leaning in to the idea of the stormy daniels was laughing on the stand, you're not a rare it is to ask a witness on cross-examination. >> you hate the defendant and the witnesses say yes, i do. i mean, it's better that she is honest about her bias, but this is overwhelming. what lawyers called bias. she hates tim. >> again, if i'm the pr
susan nechele says, did you just laugh? daniel says, select it is in quotes because i'm quoting something that someone else said because i knew you don't get selected to go to jail. niclas says you just laughed about that, right objection from the prosecution. daniel says it's a typo. the judge says overruled. stormy daniels says that's why it's funny. you don't get selected to go to jail. daniel says it's not because you think this is a typo. it's not because you think it's funny at all. so...
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susan nechele, came in. there are peppering her start. daniel's demeanor change was sitting with their arms crossed she just was a lot more defensive in that mode. and we heard stormy daniels tell the story of how she met donald trump, how she ended up in his hotel room suite, how she came out of the bathroom saw him lying on the bed bringing the jury into the room. that detail, and then also saying both one question by the prosecutors and the defense that she did want to make money from this. that's why with milling or story. >> and at least initially looking to sell her story and then she said she wanted to get it done before the election because essentially she thought that's been shared the most leveraged that don't until trump wasn't going to pay her after the election. >> i mean, jeff toobin, i talking about this just a minute ago. another key thing that happened today that is kind of lost in this is that the prosecution had showed number of excerpts from trump's books from 20 years ago. this was before serwer daniels came out, befo
susan nechele, came in. there are peppering her start. daniel's demeanor change was sitting with their arms crossed she just was a lot more defensive in that mode. and we heard stormy daniels tell the story of how she met donald trump, how she ended up in his hotel room suite, how she came out of the bathroom saw him lying on the bed bringing the jury into the room. that detail, and then also saying both one question by the prosecutors and the defense that she did want to make money from this....
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susan necheles was incredibly well prepared. she knew the book stormy daniels had written inside and out and yet it did not pay off for her because she was combative with stormy and the tone was nasty to a point that i think the jury will ultimately find empathy. also, stormy did get much more succinct in her answers and almost was emboldened by getting to answer, reading questions. the fact that she can say false and stop right there. >> right, there were a few weird terry meeuwsen moments. >> textbook mistakes. you want a cross to be quick and have a witness answer every question, yes, correct. when you get to the point where you have implied you are right, that is when you stop and go to the next topic. she was stuck and there were repeated sidebars, also, so her rhythm, rhythm is everything on cross and her rhythm was repeatedly broken. >> it's so funny when you're in that position and they are asking you questions and you say yes, like where is it going. i know you have an idea, right? what was your evaluation of her overal
susan necheles was incredibly well prepared. she knew the book stormy daniels had written inside and out and yet it did not pay off for her because she was combative with stormy and the tone was nasty to a point that i think the jury will ultimately find empathy. also, stormy did get much more succinct in her answers and almost was emboldened by getting to answer, reading questions. the fact that she can say false and stop right there. >> right, there were a few weird terry meeuwsen...
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"do you mean more than just, we had sex," judge merchan asks the defense attorney, susan necheles. "yes, your honor," necheles says. so judge merchan there establishing that, beyond we had sex, is what they're talking about. hoffinger, the prosecutor says "they're being careful to admit some details that are, quote, 'too salacious.'" again, this is where we are as a country right now that we are having this discussion and this debate in the courtroom. prosecutors is also saying, quote, "in terms of the sexual act, it will be very basic." i can't believe i have to read this on television. [ laughter ] it's not going to involve any descriptions. >> better you than me, jake tapper. >> it's not going to involve descriptions of anything in particular. [ laughter ] >> just read it. read it on the screen. >> seth: they're bullying jake tapper. [ laughter ] i'm surprised his voice didn't crack. "it's not going to involve any descriptions of --" "say the words, dork, sexual acts!" [ laughter ] journalists are reacting to the news the way my friends and i reacted when the principal caught us
"do you mean more than just, we had sex," judge merchan asks the defense attorney, susan necheles. "yes, your honor," necheles says. so judge merchan there establishing that, beyond we had sex, is what they're talking about. hoffinger, the prosecutor says "they're being careful to admit some details that are, quote, 'too salacious.'" again, this is where we are as a country right now that we are having this discussion and this debate in the courtroom. prosecutors...
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for most of those three hours trump attorney susan necheles grill daniels about every penny she made from strip club tours to tv shows to candles. yes, candles, that portrayed the former adult dome actress as the patron saint of indictments. at one point she asked, you were selling yourself to people who hate president trump as someone who would get president trump indicted, right? to which she replied, i was not selling myself to anyone. i feel duty bound to stop for a moment, because you know who was selling themselves this week? you will never guess. >> for the first time we are creating a real, physical trump card. purchase 47 digital cards and we will mail you a beautiful trading card. it is an authentic piece of the suit i wore when i took the now famous mug shot and it was a great suit, believe me, a really good suit. it is all cut up and you will get a piece of it. i will be autographing some of them. a true collectors item. something to give to your family, to your kids, to your grandchildren. with the purchase of 47 digital trading cards you will be invited to join me for a
for most of those three hours trump attorney susan necheles grill daniels about every penny she made from strip club tours to tv shows to candles. yes, candles, that portrayed the former adult dome actress as the patron saint of indictments. at one point she asked, you were selling yourself to people who hate president trump as someone who would get president trump indicted, right? to which she replied, i was not selling myself to anyone. i feel duty bound to stop for a moment, because you know...
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and then to the left of bove as well was susan necheles who cross-examined stormy daniels inside that courtroom last week. this is all going towards the lead-up of august of 2018, when just down the street, michael cohen pled guilty and pointed the finger at his former boss and the current president at the time of the united states, donald j. trump, guys. >> okay, yasmin, thanks. stand by as we continue to report out what's happening in there. so they're talking about this nondisclosure agreement. >> this is the time they benched more. >> every time they bring this up, they go to the bench. right before they had a bench meeting, hoffinger asked do you recall when donald trump agreed through his lawyers not to enforce that nda? at what point did that occur? cohen, i don't recall. was that a civil case? cohen said yes. would mr. trump be required to sit for a deposition. cohen, yes. >> the date, the decision was made he would not sit, the nda was terminated. that's when blanche, donald trump's attorney, called for a bench meeting. what do you think that was about, maya? >> i don't want
and then to the left of bove as well was susan necheles who cross-examined stormy daniels inside that courtroom last week. this is all going towards the lead-up of august of 2018, when just down the street, michael cohen pled guilty and pointed the finger at his former boss and the current president at the time of the united states, donald j. trump, guys. >> okay, yasmin, thanks. stand by as we continue to report out what's happening in there. so they're talking about this nondisclosure...
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so i expect hard cross-examination, continuing with susan necheles. she went after her hard. i don't think it came through in the documents. it cannot come through. redirect, we can expect, using the former president's words against him, and i only say this because they tried to use stormy's words against her, right, in the moment we talked about the tweet. she said, he called it, you know, called that to me first. he called me a name first. and i expect them to do the same thing in this redirect against him with stormy on the stand. >> yasmin vossoughian, jacob weissberg, thank you very much. >>> still to come, what nbc news and online sleuths discovered about an online injury campaign. we'll show you the video from january 6th. >>> plus, nearly two years after the ftx collapse, there's a plan to pay back the victims billions, plus interest. the details on that ahead. the d. n that helps treat and prevent, all in one. to those with migraine, i see you. for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults. don't
so i expect hard cross-examination, continuing with susan necheles. she went after her hard. i don't think it came through in the documents. it cannot come through. redirect, we can expect, using the former president's words against him, and i only say this because they tried to use stormy's words against her, right, in the moment we talked about the tweet. she said, he called it, you know, called that to me first. he called me a name first. and i expect them to do the same thing in this...
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before watching this trial i had no idea about todd blanche or about susan necheles. though i think susan necheles came to the court with a great reputation at a distance. i knew nothing about the other two. i think from the very beginning the first time i saw him in action after jury selection was arguing why donald trump did not violate the gag order and in short order judge merchan, who i think is an impeccable justice -- you know, he is even- tempered and runs a tight court, and he gave him a warning about 10 seconds into his defensive trump on the gag order and said you are losing credibility in front of this court and losing credibility as a lawyer. if you like that has hung over him from the beginning of proceedings and every time i think he has step up to make an argument he is not as polished. he lacks, i think, and ability to thematically lay out an argument for a jury and i think in front of a jury you are doing many things, but important things are building someone up or taking them down and when it came to the cross- examination of michael cohen, who i th
before watching this trial i had no idea about todd blanche or about susan necheles. though i think susan necheles came to the court with a great reputation at a distance. i knew nothing about the other two. i think from the very beginning the first time i saw him in action after jury selection was arguing why donald trump did not violate the gag order and in short order judge merchan, who i think is an impeccable justice -- you know, he is even- tempered and runs a tight court, and he gave him...
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despite susan necheles, attorney for donald trump, trying to extract discrepancies, you had a woman who said i told the truth and have been for the last 18 years. that is what the prosecution was looking for. now if you are the jury and you have michael cohen share his story, this for the prosecution is going to be key. the hard part for the defenses they may try to paint michael cohen as a little figure in donald trump's world. even donald trump left the courthouse today and what did he say? michael cohen didn't do big deals for me, he did little deals. so you have two options. either allen weisselberg was okay with michael cohen calling the shots and having this payoff take place, or it was donald trump directing the order for the payment. the defense for donald trump has to decide in the next weeks. >> i do think that having a sort of test run if you will, the character assassination of stormy daniels, it was a useful model for the prosecution as they prepare for michael cohen and maybe not useful for the defense doing a trial of how they might treat michael cohen. how do you see the
despite susan necheles, attorney for donald trump, trying to extract discrepancies, you had a woman who said i told the truth and have been for the last 18 years. that is what the prosecution was looking for. now if you are the jury and you have michael cohen share his story, this for the prosecution is going to be key. the hard part for the defenses they may try to paint michael cohen as a little figure in donald trump's world. even donald trump left the courthouse today and what did he say?...
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i think by susan necheles's actions, somebody taking it seriously at this point, and afraid that the judge is going to put him into a jail cell. >> does this mean that judge juan merchan believes that the gag order is clear, but if they think it's ambiguous, they have an appeal that they can make, right, ultimately? >> ultimately. but no gag order really, in fairness, is ever completely clear. gag orders all involve constitutional conflicts in the sense that someone has a first amendment right to speak, and arguably political speech is more cherished than regular protected speech, and of course you have the public's sixth amendment right to a fair trial and the judges need to protect witnesses and protect his courtroom. gag orders are always problematic. justice merchan realizes that. if you got ten judges in a rule and asked them to rule on the gag order violations, i don't think that you would get the same result from every judge. that's an appealable issue. the bottom line is the judge has to make decisions in realtime, and he's going to err on the side of protecting the jury and
i think by susan necheles's actions, somebody taking it seriously at this point, and afraid that the judge is going to put him into a jail cell. >> does this mean that judge juan merchan believes that the gag order is clear, but if they think it's ambiguous, they have an appeal that they can make, right, ultimately? >> ultimately. but no gag order really, in fairness, is ever completely clear. gag orders all involve constitutional conflicts in the sense that someone has a first...
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susan necheles is very excellent. >> is also the most experienced of the three in terms of defense. and on the prosecution side, quite frankly, susan officer is excellent. she spent 20 years as a cross examiner. i'm surprised she hasn't had a meaty witness yet. >> a lot more time to go. thank you both, appreciate it. >>> still ahead, despite her best, doing her best at being a straight shooter, south dakota governor kristi noem continues to find herself in a bigger hole. is this the end of the road for a woman who holds higher political aspirations? aspirati? plus free exams and x-rays for new patients without insurance... and 20% off treatment plans for everyone. quality care at a price worth celebrating. it's one more way aspen dental is in your corner. smile! you found it. the feeling of finding psoriasis can't filter out the real you. so go ahead, live unfiltered with the one and only sotyktu, a once-daily pill for moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, and the chance at clear or almost clear skin. it's like the feeling of finding you're so ready for your close-up. or finding you
susan necheles is very excellent. >> is also the most experienced of the three in terms of defense. and on the prosecution side, quite frankly, susan officer is excellent. she spent 20 years as a cross examiner. i'm surprised she hasn't had a meaty witness yet. >> a lot more time to go. thank you both, appreciate it. >>> still ahead, despite her best, doing her best at being a straight shooter, south dakota governor kristi noem continues to find herself in a bigger hole. is...
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what was incredible about the cross examination is kind of how susan necheles was going after stormy daniels, and some of the questions she asked, are you just trying to extort donald trump, right? are you just lying about every story that you're telling here on this stand? stormy daniels at that moment was standing up for herself, right? the first time she felt she could publicly with donald trump sitting eight feet away from her. no, i am not. this is not about money. i wanted to get the story out there. i felt unsafe. kind of painting this picture of stormy daniels that she had really an axe to grind. if i can paint for you a picture, ana, of what that courtroom was like, right? stormy daniels walking in behind donald trump, behind the defense table, her hair up in a banana clip, she had a black hoodie on. not the stormy daniels that we have all come to know very well publicly. this was not the person that we saw on the stand. she told story after story, and she was chided as you mentioned oftentimes by judge juan merchan to stick to the answers. listen to the questions and give u
what was incredible about the cross examination is kind of how susan necheles was going after stormy daniels, and some of the questions she asked, are you just trying to extort donald trump, right? are you just lying about every story that you're telling here on this stand? stormy daniels at that moment was standing up for herself, right? the first time she felt she could publicly with donald trump sitting eight feet away from her. no, i am not. this is not about money. i wanted to get the...
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this kind of intense cross-examination of very aggressive by susan necheles is pushing stormy daniels to try to paint her as an opportunist. try to paint her as someone who is doing all of this for money or even as a liar, saw a lot of what susan necheles did was pull up old tweets it's old post and try to read them to stormy daniel's really with the point of trying to make it look as those stormy daniels had an ax to grind and that's what we expect from michael cohen as well when i'm talking to members first of trump's legal team, his legal advisors, they say they are doing the most work to prep for michael cohen. they've been going through his podcast, his book, the book revenge, as well as his twitter posts, which we know i'd been a very aggressive towards donald trump and i do want to mention one thing about stormy daniels because what we saw after coarser day, in addition to talking about getting the case dismissed, we also saw that donald trump's lawyers were arguing to try and allow donald trump to respond to stormy daniels and the claims that she made during her testimony. now
this kind of intense cross-examination of very aggressive by susan necheles is pushing stormy daniels to try to paint her as an opportunist. try to paint her as someone who is doing all of this for money or even as a liar, saw a lot of what susan necheles did was pull up old tweets it's old post and try to read them to stormy daniel's really with the point of trying to make it look as those stormy daniels had an ax to grind and that's what we expect from michael cohen as well when i'm talking...
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so i agree with you that susan necheles, it was not her finist moment. she did much better in talking about the financial motive and all of the money that she's made and the ways she's tried to make money. that was a better line of cross-examination. i thought the other thing that you played which was a particularly poor line of cross-examination, that felt very classless and had to do with the adult entertainment, that was where stormy daniels was talking about somebody you're rooting for. she was talking about essentially that doesn't mean i wouldn't be shocked by seeing a 60-year-old man suddenly wanting to have sex with me when that was not what was expected. a funny line, i see my husband every day, and he can be in his boxer shorts, it's very different if i came out of my bathroom into my bedroom and saw donald trump there. you know, it was shocking and surprising. so she just had some very thoughtful answers to a cross-examination that at times, as you said, claire, really fell flat. >> all right. how do you feel again, we talked a little bit earl
so i agree with you that susan necheles, it was not her finist moment. she did much better in talking about the financial motive and all of the money that she's made and the ways she's tried to make money. that was a better line of cross-examination. i thought the other thing that you played which was a particularly poor line of cross-examination, that felt very classless and had to do with the adult entertainment, that was where stormy daniels was talking about somebody you're rooting for. she...
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. >> reporter: trump's attorney, susan necheles, led an often tense cross-examination of daniels, who prosecutors say accepted a $130,000 payment from trump's former attorney, michael cohen, before the 2016 election in exchange for keeping quiet about her story. necheles focused on daniels' high-profile appearances after news of her alleged sexual encounter with trump, which he denies, made headlines and argued daniels tried to capitalize on her fame. necheles: "you wanted to make more money, right?" daniels: "no. that's why i did "60 minutes" for free." >> did you want to have sex with him? >> no. but i didn't say no. i'm not a victim. >> reporter: trump's attorney brought up daniels' career of writing, directing, and acting in adult films. necheles asked, "you have a lot of experience making phony stories about sex appear real." daniels disputed that. "the sex in the films is very much real, just like what happened to me in that room," adding if her encounter with trump was untrue, "i would have written it to be a lot better." trump grimaced at the comment. >> you feel like if you h
. >> reporter: trump's attorney, susan necheles, led an often tense cross-examination of daniels, who prosecutors say accepted a $130,000 payment from trump's former attorney, michael cohen, before the 2016 election in exchange for keeping quiet about her story. necheles focused on daniels' high-profile appearances after news of her alleged sexual encounter with trump, which he denies, made headlines and argued daniels tried to capitalize on her fame. necheles: "you wanted to make...