. >> it's not one that anyone should want zack scofield is an environmentalist and resident of new castle he's activist group, rising tide has staged protests briefly stopping one of these trains in the waterborne sit in scofield was briefly arrested while blockading coal ships in the port do you want this shutdown? >> not immediately, not overnight. that's not going to help anyone in newcastle, law in australia. but what we do need is no new fossil fuel projects to be approved because that's just going to make the problem worse. as you can say, to die, we've got so much sun, got so much are wind. we've got a perfect opportunity to become a renewable superpower i'm surprised to hear both the environmentalist and the coal port executive calling for a gradual green energy transition. we have been pursuing a strategy of diversification. so what algol is while we are strong in coal, will build all these new businesses and clean it and jane containers and whatnot. >> you're running the world's largest coal exporting port from what i'm hearing from you, you would like it to no longer be that no