sociologists like samuel perry at the university of oklahoma is that it seems that the evangelical label the meaning of is shifting going back to something you said earlier that people identify with the place the republican is going are perhaps even likely now to identify as evangelical as well. there are some pew data from a few years that suggests some people who were sort of culturally christian and support trump were likely to newly call themselves that even if they hadn't before. and likewise it appears that people who don't identify with that are less likely to use the label evangelical. so going back 2016, you covered the trump campaign. and so this is where i want to ask you to about when some of the experiences that you had, what are reasons i want to ask you to read that? is that. a lot of the people who are here in this room, you follow politics. so this will not be news to you. but one of the things that was fascinate to me on campaign trail is how many people no clue about this claim never to have seen it or heard it just don't like what are you even talking about? i'm going