. >> rose: and what about the sal mineo role. the movie. it is a feature film, it's about the last day in his life. >> yes. so i did a movie -- i directed a movie called "sal" over two years ago. we took it to the venice film festival. >> it's going to be sadness, it's going to be something that from my experience was never, ever been seen before. it's going to be a story -- >> what do you mean by never ever been seen before? >> i just feel like -- i mean, we're starting to evolve a little bit but i feel like the way i want to make this film, no one's had the balls to make it the way i want to make it. >> rose: and how do you want to make it? >> i want to make it realistic. >> rose: >> slick? >> realistic. >> slick? >> realistic! >> sorry, realistic. give me realistic. i need to know what realistic means to you that. scares me the realistic part. >> the book is nothing but gritty, beautiful, realistic truth. and i feel like a lot of movies are being made about horrifying situations and circumstances but when they're being shown and when the