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joining me now is robert kagan, columnist for the washington post and senior fellow at the brookings institution, author of the new book, rebellion, how anti-liberalism is tearing america apart again, which comes out on tuesday. as always, thank you very much for speaking with me and coming on the show. your argument emphasizes the decline in public virtue as a key factor behind the support for trump. explain what you mean by that. >> well, when the founders, when we fought the revolution, and the founders established the constitution, they were acutely conscious of the need to protect individual rights, which is what the revolution was about. they established a system unlike any other that had been established in history, one founded on the liberal principles that all human beings are equal and enjoy the same natural rights, and that it's the job of government to protect those rights. but they knew, and it was obviously true, that any americans didn't necessarily agree with those principles, but slaveholders for instance, or after the civil war, much of the south, which was implemen
joining me now is robert kagan, columnist for the washington post and senior fellow at the brookings institution, author of the new book, rebellion, how anti-liberalism is tearing america apart again, which comes out on tuesday. as always, thank you very much for speaking with me and coming on the show. your argument emphasizes the decline in public virtue as a key factor behind the support for trump. explain what you mean by that. >> well, when the founders, when we fought the...
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, look under the opinion section, go to robert kagan, read this masterful essay. actually, bob, every essay you write is masterful, and i really appreciate you coming on the show. >> thanks, it's a real pleasure. >>> still to come, the next several months will be pivotal in the right for women's reproductive rights. the president every productive freedom for all joins us to talk about a key case before the supreme court. it of a situ. [ metal groans] sure, i can hold. ♪ liberty liberty liberty liberty ♪ in theaters now. if you spit blood when you brush, it could be the start of a domino effect. new parodontax active gum repair breath freshener. clinically proven to help reverse the four signs of early gum disease. a new toothpaste from parodontax, the gum experts. hold up. if asthma isn't treating you right... you might be treating it wrong. and i know, you've been going through it. but what if you get to it. a key source of your asthma inflammation. enter nucala. it isn't your rescue treatment and it's not a steroid. it's an autoinjector you can do at home. j
, look under the opinion section, go to robert kagan, read this masterful essay. actually, bob, every essay you write is masterful, and i really appreciate you coming on the show. >> thanks, it's a real pleasure. >>> still to come, the next several months will be pivotal in the right for women's reproductive rights. the president every productive freedom for all joins us to talk about a key case before the supreme court. it of a situ. [ metal groans] sure, i can hold. ♪ liberty...
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. >> robert kagan is back with me. the author of rebellion, how anti-liberalism is tearing america apart again. those are three republicans, mike pence, mark esper, former defense secretary, and john bolton. but a lot of republicans will sit back and let him come back in. or either be passive about it or actively vote for him again. in this book, you draw a line between the kind of straight line from the slave holding south through the 1920s. which you and i agree is the era we're kind of reliving. talk about that and why so many republicans will go along. >> well, why so many republicans go along is an interesting question. there's obviously the professional republican class, which is basically people like bill barr, who i think are basically cowards and they don't want to be expelled from the republican community, even though barr has said very negative things about donald trump. but as far as your average republican voter, why don't -- i don't believe anymore that people don't see the threat that donald trump poses.
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chief justice roberts: justice kagan? justice kagan: so, in this pour one of the things that we would -- that we are supposed toonsider is would we take cert on this case and woulyo likely to prevail if we did take cert. and one of the reaso ually we don't take cert on a case is if it has a lot sff before you get to theers issues, which is the only thing that we would be cceed about. and it -- it does seem to me you wanto the term "stuff," sometimes referred to as vehicle issues, there are just a lotf them here, right? there's the question of did you have to comment and did you comment? then there's the question of, well, evenf u couldn't comment but -- because you didn't know enough, should you have filed a motion for reconsideration? d u didn't file a motion for reconsideration. en there's this very complex issue about how your question relates to the validity of the sip disapprovals themselves because, if the sip disapprovals were valid, you wouldn't have leg to stand on here. h are we supposed to know that in th pture
chief justice roberts: justice kagan? justice kagan: so, in this pour one of the things that we would -- that we are supposed toonsider is would we take cert on this case and woulyo likely to prevail if we did take cert. and one of the reaso ually we don't take cert on a case is if it has a lot sff before you get to theers issues, which is the only thing that we would be cceed about. and it -- it does seem to me you wanto the term "stuff," sometimes referred to as vehicle issues,...
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chief justice roberts: justice kagan? justice gorsuch? justice gorsuch: we've gone back and forth all morning about the standard. but you have a first amendment retaliation claim in this case, and we often look at retaliation in the title vii context. just the matter you described, the effect it would have on a reasonable person in the circumstances do you see any daylight between those two standards? mr. cole: in terms of defining what constitutes adverse action? justice gorsuch: right. mr. cole: i'm not sure that there is. i don't know that for this case one has to look very hard to see adverse action, when you see a concerted campaign, milling dollars f -- million-dollar fines, and explicit threat to a major insurance provider, we are going to go hard on you if you don't cut your ties with the nra . in that context this is clearly an adverse action under title vii, under any english-language understanding. justice gorsuch: retaliation is a familiar concept in a lot of our case law. mr. cole: and i think, look -- justice gorsuch: they h
chief justice roberts: justice kagan? justice gorsuch? justice gorsuch: we've gone back and forth all morning about the standard. but you have a first amendment retaliation claim in this case, and we often look at retaliation in the title vii context. just the matter you described, the effect it would have on a reasonable person in the circumstances do you see any daylight between those two standards? mr. cole: in terms of defining what constitutes adverse action? justice gorsuch: right. mr....
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chief justice roberts: justice kagan? justice kagan: mr. turner, practicing medicine is hard, but erare standards of care, aren't there? mr. turner: ye tre are. justice kagan: and one of those standards of care with respect to abortion is that in certain tragic circumstances, as you urself, as your own state's law acknowledges, where a woman's life is pil and abortion is the appropriate standard of care, isn't that right? . rner: that's right. justice kagan: and emtala goes further. it says athe appropriate standard of care can't only be abouprecting a woman's life. ao has to be about protecting a woman's health. that's what emtala says, doesn't it mr. turner: no, it doesn't. it defines emergency medical condition with a broader set of triggering conditions, but the -- the key question here is what is the sbization requirement, and that is qualified by the availability term. justice kagan: the -- the stabilization requirement is -- is written in terms of making sure that a transfer wldot result in a material deterioration
chief justice roberts: justice kagan? justice kagan: mr. turner, practicing medicine is hard, but erare standards of care, aren't there? mr. turner: ye tre are. justice kagan: and one of those standards of care with respect to abortion is that in certain tragic circumstances, as you urself, as your own state's law acknowledges, where a woman's life is pil and abortion is the appropriate standard of care, isn't that right? . rner: that's right. justice kagan: and emtala goes further. it says...
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f justice roberts: justice kagan? justice kagan: you'vered couple of times to the necessity defense, so could you tell me how that would work? ms. evangelis: yes. so there -- under oregon law, if a person says at- it's effectively the lesser of two evils. if they say, i had no alternative to -- no legal alternative other than what did here that broke the law, then i had no choice and i therefore had to break the law and it was in some sense involuntary, to e term that -- that many have been discussing. so, there, you -- it would be very narrow. it is ve narrow defense. so it would be in that moment of -- justickagan: so -- so suppose at there is a person who is homeless and there are no shelter beds availablendhe person has no place to go, and the person, ofoue, has to sleep. and the person -- it's cold outside. the person has a blanket. so that's the minimum conduct that the law prohibits. so the person sleeps outside with a blanket, and a police officer comes, and in the --ut the person says, well, i had no place el
f justice roberts: justice kagan? justice kagan: you'vered couple of times to the necessity defense, so could you tell me how that would work? ms. evangelis: yes. so there -- under oregon law, if a person says at- it's effectively the lesser of two evils. if they say, i had no alternative to -- no legal alternative other than what did here that broke the law, then i had no choice and i therefore had to break the law and it was in some sense involuntary, to e term that -- that many have been...
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chief justice roberts: justice kagan? justice kagan: mr. martinez, i want you to think of this from congress's perspective. so i was thinking what is the next big piece of legislation on the horizon and who knows, don't have a crystal ball, but i'm going to say -- i'm going to guess that it's artificial intelligence. so let's imagine congress enacts an artificial intelligence bill and it has all kinds of delegations, maybe it creates an agency for the purpose or maybe it uses existing agencies and it has all kinds of delegations to that agency or agencies about how to regulate artificial intelligence so that this nation can capture the -- the -- the opportunities but also meet the challenges of that. and then, just by the nature of things and especially the nature of the subject, there are going to be all kinds of places where, although there's not an explicit delegation, congress has in effect left a gap. it has created an ambiguity. and what congress is thinking is, do we want courts to fill that gap, or do we want an a
chief justice roberts: justice kagan? justice kagan: mr. martinez, i want you to think of this from congress's perspective. so i was thinking what is the next big piece of legislation on the horizon and who knows, don't have a crystal ball, but i'm going to say -- i'm going to guess that it's artificial intelligence. so let's imagine congress enacts an artificial intelligence bill and it has all kinds of delegations, maybe it creates an agency for the purpose or maybe it uses existing agencies...
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justice elena kagan suggested grants passes laws went too far. but chief justice john roberts asked if homelessness should be a constitutionally protected status. >> it seems like you're criminalizing the status. if someone is homeless for a week. finds available is that person homeless when he's in the shelter? >> this case comes after a lower court ruled in favor of the homeless population, calling it cruel and unusual punishment to fine and jail. someone who does not have anywhere else to go here in the bay area. the city of san francisco says it's been blocked from enforcing camping regulations because the city doesn't have enough shelter space for its full homeless population. a decision on the case is expected later on this year. >> you won't be able to pay to skip the tsa line at california. airports of a new bill passes in sacramento right now. clear customers can pay $189 a year to avoid the tsa's regular and precheck lines at many airports clear users are escorted past people who don't pay for the service. the new bill would ban that pr
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justice elena kagan suggested that grants passes laws went too far. it seems like you're criminalizing the status, but chief justice john roberts asked if homelessness should be a constitutionally protected status if someone is homeless for a week. >> finds available is that person homeless when he's in the shelter. this case comes after a lower court ruled in favor of the homeless population, calling it a cruel and unusual punishment to fine in jail. someone who doesn't have anywhere else to go grants pass lawyers urge justices to overrule that decision which has fueled the spread of encampments while harming sos. >> it purports to protect california. republican congressman kevin kiley says he's een the impact in his own state. kids can't walk to school without having needles or waste citizens can to the park without confronting open drug use. kylie says a ruling in favor of grants pass would help other cities better handle homelessness. a decision on this case is expected later this year in washington. i'm maddie beer-temple. meantime, california pr
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justice elena kagan suggested that grants passes law went too far. although chief justice john roberts asked of homelessness should be a constitutionally protected status. >> it seems like you're criminalizing the status. if someone is homeless for a week. finds available is that person homeless when he's in the shelter? >> well, this case comes after a lower court ruled in favor of the homeless population in oregon, calling it a cruel and unusual punishment to fine and jail. someone who doesn't have anywhere else to go here in the bay area. san francisco officials say they've been blocked from enforcing camping regulations because the city doesn't have enough shelter space for its full homeless population. the decision on this case is expected later this year. >> 6.21 and millions of californians could be in danger of losing internet service. a federal program that provides discounted internet expires at the end of this month. the program started during the pandemic. it provides a $30 internet discount to low-income families. and a $75 discount for
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justice elena kagan suggested the grants pass law goes too far. although chief justice john roberts asked that if homelessness should be a constitutionally protected status. >> it seems like you're criminalizing the status. if someone is homeless for week. finds available is that person homeless when he's in the shelter? >> well, this case comes after a lower court ruled in favor of the homeless population in oregon, calling their law of cruel and unusual punishment to fine and jail. someone who doesn't have anywhere else to go here in the bay area's. we know san francisco officials say they've been blocked from enforcing camping regulations because the city doesn't have enough shelter space for its homeless population. the decision on the case is expected later this summer. >> it's 7.22. and millions of californians could be in danger of losing their internet service will have that. plus how safety is being provided to the jewish community has we celebrate passover? man is in the hospital with life-threatening injuries after he was hit by a car i
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, but roberts, yes. like those kind of clear examples of potential conduct, for example, the seal team six thing that cut through from the lower court arguments. i feel like those are the things we're gonna be talking about here in the months to come. >> yeah. >> we've seen how that has persisted from the dc appeals court where one judge was the one who posed the question about seal team six. now at that has become pervasive line of questioning you see in paula standby. we'll get back to this conversation in a moment. anderson, to you in new york yeah. >> kaitlyn, thanks so much. i want to bring endorsed kearns goodwin into this conversation fuel, which prize-winning historian as the author the remarkable new book and unfinished love story or personal history of the 1960s. doors, thanks so much for being with us today. it is. >> it's such an incredible day. >> you have the sort of split-screen moment of on the one hand, you have this this case going on in new york. the former president, a criminal defend
, but roberts, yes. like those kind of clear examples of potential conduct, for example, the seal team six thing that cut through from the lower court arguments. i feel like those are the things we're gonna be talking about here in the months to come. >> yeah. >> we've seen how that has persisted from the dc appeals court where one judge was the one who posed the question about seal team six. now at that has become pervasive line of questioning you see in paula standby. we'll get...
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justice elena kagan suggested that the law there in grants pass goes too far. chief justice john roberts asked of homelessness should be a constitutionally protected status. >> it seems like you're criminalizing the status. if someone is homeless for the week. and finds available is that person homeless when he's in the shelter? >> this case comes after a lower court ruled in favor of homeless advocates in oregon that called the law. they're cruel and unusual punishment to fine and jail. someone who doesn't have anywhere else to go here in the bay area. san francisco officials, as we know, have been blocked from enforcing. camping regulations because the city doesn't have enough shelter beds for its full homeless population. the decision on this case is expected this summer. we'll keep you updated. >> new this morning if you have used or expired medications that you need to get rid of saturday. this saturday is the day is called. >> dea national take back day. and that's you where you can safely drop off your medications. there are several locations around the
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we heard justice elena kagan suggest that maybe the law there in grants pass goes too far. chief justice john roberts also asked of homelessness should be a constitutionally protected status. >> it seems like you're criminalizing the status. if someone is homeless for the week. and finds available is that person homeless when he's in the shelter? >> all this case comes after a lower court ruled in favor of the homeless population in oregon, calling it a cruel and unusual punishment to fine and jail. someone who doesn't have anywhere else to go here in the bay area's, you know, san francisco has been dealing with homeless encampments. they've been blocked recently from enforcing their camping regulations because the city doesn't have enough shelter space for the population. the decision on this case before the supreme court is expected later this year. >> it's 10. 36 has the time. and last night was the first night of passover. it's a week-long holiday that marks the liberation of the israelites from slavery. >> in egypt and as kron four's philippe djegal reports this year,
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justice elena kagan suggested that grants passes laws went too far. it seems like you're criminalizing the status, but chief justice john roberts asked if homelessness should be a constitutionally protected status if someone is homeless for a week. >> and finds available is that person homeless when he's in the shelter. this case comes after a lower court ruled in favor of the homeless population. >> calling it a cruel and unusual punishment to fine and jail. someone who doesn't have anywhere else to go grants pass lawyers urge justices to overrule that decision which has fueled the spread encampments while harming sos it purports to protect california. republican congressman kevin kiley says he's seen the impact in his own state. kids can't walk to school without having needles or waste citizens can to the park without confronting open drug use. kylie says a ruling in favor of grants pass would help other cities better handle homelessness. a decision on this case is expected later this year. >> in washington, i'm maddie beer-temple. >> california is
justice elena kagan suggested that grants passes laws went too far. it seems like you're criminalizing the status, but chief justice john roberts asked if homelessness should be a constitutionally protected status if someone is homeless for a week. >> and finds available is that person homeless when he's in the shelter. this case comes after a lower court ruled in favor of the homeless population. >> calling it a cruel and unusual punishment to fine and jail. someone who doesn't...
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justice elena kagan suggested that grants passes laws went too far. it seems like you're criminalizing the status, but chief justice john roberts asked if homelessness should be a constitutionally protected status if someone is homeless for a week. >> finds available is that person homeless when he's in the shelter. this case comes after a lower court ruled in favor of the homeless population, calling it a cruel and unusual punishment to fine in jail. someone who doesn't have anywhere else to go grants pass lawyers urge justices to overrule that decision which has fueled the spread of encampments while harming sos. >> it purports to protect california. republican congressman kevin kiley says he's seen the impact in his own state. kids can't walk to school without having needles or waste citizens can to the park without confronting open drug use. kylie says a ruling in favor of grants pass would help other cities better handle homelessness. a decision on this case is expected later this year in washington. i'm maddie beer-temple. well, according to the
justice elena kagan suggested that grants passes laws went too far. it seems like you're criminalizing the status, but chief justice john roberts asked if homelessness should be a constitutionally protected status if someone is homeless for a week. >> finds available is that person homeless when he's in the shelter. this case comes after a lower court ruled in favor of the homeless population, calling it a cruel and unusual punishment to fine in jail. someone who doesn't have anywhere...