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mr. rosen, after mr. barr announced his resignation, did donald trump continue to demand that the department of justice investigate his claims of election fraud? >> yes, he asserted that he thought the justice department had not done enough. >> thank you. from the time you took over for attorney general barr until january 3rd, how often did president trump contact you or the department, to push allegations of election fraud? >> between december 23rd in january 3rd the president either called me or met with me virtually every day, with one or two exceptions, like christmas day before the, because it had been announced that i would be the acting attorney general before the date but i did, the president had asked, rich donahue and i go over and meet with him, i believe on december 15th, as well. after we had some of these meetings and conversations with the president, what things did the president raise with you. >> so the common element to all of this was the president expressing his dissatisfaction that th
mr. rosen, after mr. barr announced his resignation, did donald trump continue to demand that the department of justice investigate his claims of election fraud? >> yes, he asserted that he thought the justice department had not done enough. >> thank you. from the time you took over for attorney general barr until january 3rd, how often did president trump contact you or the department, to push allegations of election fraud? >> between december 23rd in january 3rd the...
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mr. rosen, after mr. barr announced his resignation, did donald trump continue to demand that the department of justice investigate his claims of election fraud? >> yes, he asserted that he thought the justice department had not done enough. >> thank you. from the time you took over for attorney general barr until january 3rd, how often did president trump contact you or the department, to push allegations of election fraud? >> between december 23rd in january 3rd the president either called me or met with me virtually every day, with one or two exceptions, like christmas day before the, because it had been announced that i would be the acting attorney general before the date but i did, the president had asked, rich donahue and i go over and meet with him, i believe on december 15th, as well. after we had some of these meetings and conversations with the president, what things did the president raise with you. >> so the common element to all of this was the president expressing his dissatisfaction that th
mr. rosen, after mr. barr announced his resignation, did donald trump continue to demand that the department of justice investigate his claims of election fraud? >> yes, he asserted that he thought the justice department had not done enough. >> thank you. from the time you took over for attorney general barr until january 3rd, how often did president trump contact you or the department, to push allegations of election fraud? >> between december 23rd in january 3rd the...
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rosen, mr. donoghue and mr. engel were preparing for that meeting at the white house, jeff clark and the president where in constant communication beginning at 7 am. white house call logs obtained by the committee show that by four 90 pm on january 3rd, the white house had already begun as far as the white house was concerned, mr. clark was already at the top of the justice department. two hours later, doj leadership arrived at the white house. the select committee interviewed every person who was inside the room, what's inside the room during this sunday evening oval office meeting. mr. cipollone told the committee that he was, quote, unmistakably angry during the meeting and that he along with eric harshman and mr. donahue, quote, forcefully challenged mr. clock to produce evidence of election fraud theories. mr. rosen, can you describe how that meeting started? >> yes. so after some preliminaries -- so mr. meadows had assured us all in and then he left so mr. cipollone did some introductions and after some pr
rosen, mr. donoghue and mr. engel were preparing for that meeting at the white house, jeff clark and the president where in constant communication beginning at 7 am. white house call logs obtained by the committee show that by four 90 pm on january 3rd, the white house had already begun as far as the white house was concerned, mr. clark was already at the top of the justice department. two hours later, doj leadership arrived at the white house. the select committee interviewed every person who...
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mr. rosen, after mr. barr announced his resignation, did donald trump continue to demand that the department of justice investigate his claims of election fraud? >> yes. he asserted that he thought the justice department had not done enough. >> thank you. from the time you took over from attorney general barr until january 3, how often did president trump contact you or the department to push allegations of election fraud? >> so between december 23 and january 3, the president either called me or met with me virtually every day with one or two exceptions like christmas day. before that because it had been announced that i would become the acting attorney general before the date i did, the president had asked that rich donoghue and i go over and meet with him, i believe, december 15 as well. >> so after you had some of these meetings and conversations with the president, what things did the president raise with you? >> so the common element of all of this was the president expressing his dissatisfaction at
mr. rosen, after mr. barr announced his resignation, did donald trump continue to demand that the department of justice investigate his claims of election fraud? >> yes. he asserted that he thought the justice department had not done enough. >> thank you. from the time you took over from attorney general barr until january 3, how often did president trump contact you or the department to push allegations of election fraud? >> so between december 23 and january 3, the president...
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mr. rosen during a january 2 meeting with mr. clark, did you confronted him again about his contact with the president and can you describe that? >> so at this point, mr. clark had told us that the president had asked him to consider whether he would be willing to replace me as supposedly on a timetable by monday, the 4th. so i had told mr. clark i thought he was making a colossal error in judgment, but i also hoped to persuade him to be more rationale and to understand what we had understood. there's not a factual basis for the fraud a sure shuns being made. so an't this meeting mr. donoghue and i met with mr. clark. i guess my hopes were disappointed and that mr. clark continued to express the view that he thought there was fraud even though he had not been a participant in the department's review of that. and that he was dissatisfied that we knew what we were doing. so but he had acknowledged that he had had a further meeting or phone calls or what, but further discussion with the president despite having a week earlier said i
mr. rosen during a january 2 meeting with mr. clark, did you confronted him again about his contact with the president and can you describe that? >> so at this point, mr. clark had told us that the president had asked him to consider whether he would be willing to replace me as supposedly on a timetable by monday, the 4th. so i had told mr. clark i thought he was making a colossal error in judgment, but i also hoped to persuade him to be more rationale and to understand what we had...
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rosen, mr. donoghue and mr. engel were preparing for that meeting at the white house, jeff clark and the president where in constant communication beginning at 7 am. white house call logs obtained by the committee show that by four 90 pm on january 3rd, the white house had already begun referring to mr. clark as the acting attorney general. as far as the white house was concerned, mr. clark was already at the top of the justice department. two hours later, doj leadership arrived at the white house. the select committee interviewed every person who was inside the room, what's inside the room during this sunday evening oval office meeting. mr. cipollone told the committee that he was, quote, unmistakably angry during the meeting and that he along with eric harshman and mr. donahue, quote, forcefully challenged mr. clock to produce evidence of election fraud theories. mr. rosen, can you describe how that meeting started? >> yes. so after some preliminaries -- so mr. meadows had assured us all in and then he left so
rosen, mr. donoghue and mr. engel were preparing for that meeting at the white house, jeff clark and the president where in constant communication beginning at 7 am. white house call logs obtained by the committee show that by four 90 pm on january 3rd, the white house had already begun referring to mr. clark as the acting attorney general. as far as the white house was concerned, mr. clark was already at the top of the justice department. two hours later, doj leadership arrived at the white...
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mr. rosen, after mr. barr announced his resignations, did donald trump continue to demand that the department of justice continue t nvaimsf election fraud? >> yes, he -- he, uh, asserted that he thought the justice department had not done enough. >> thank you. from the time you t over from attorney general barr, until january 3, how often did president trump contact you or the department to push allegations of election fraud? >> so between december 23 and january 3, the president either called me or met with me virtually every day, with one or two exceptions, like christmas day. and before that, because it had been announced i would become the acting attorney general the day before i actually did, the president had asked that rich dodonohue and i meet with him on september 15 as well. >> you had the meetings with the president, what things did the president raise with you? >> so the common element of all of this was the president expressing his dissatisfaction that the justice department, in his view, had
mr. rosen, after mr. barr announced his resignations, did donald trump continue to demand that the department of justice continue t nvaimsf election fraud? >> yes, he -- he, uh, asserted that he thought the justice department had not done enough. >> thank you. from the time you t over from attorney general barr, until january 3, how often did president trump contact you or the department to push allegations of election fraud? >> so between december 23 and january 3, the...
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rosen said to mr. trump, "doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that? >> he responded quickly and said, essentially, that is not what i'm asking you to do. i'm asking you to say it was corrupt and leave the rest to us mean the congressman. amy: many of trump's efforts to push the department of justice involved a lower-level doj attorney named jeffrey clark who trump considered naming attorney general. on wednesday morning, the fbi raided clark's home. meanwhile, the january 6 committee revealed six members of congress who supported trump's coup attempt sought positional pardons. mo brooks of alabama, matt gaetz of florida, louie gohmert of texas, marjorie taylor greene of georgia, scott perry of pennsylvania, and andy biggs of arizona. we will have more on the january 6 hearing later in the program. ukrainian officials have ordered troops to withdraw from the besieged eastern city of severodonetsk which has been the site of weeks o
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mr. rosen, mr. donoghue stayed steadfastly committed to the oath they take as officials in the department of justice. on january 6th itself, they assisted during the attack while our commander in chief stayed silent. their bravery is a high moment in the sordid story of what led to january 6th. my colleagues and i up here also take an oath. some of them failed to uphold theirs, and instead, chose to spread the big lie. days after the tragic events of january 6th, some of these same republican members requested pardons in the waning days of the trump administration. five days after the attack on the capitol, representative mo brooks sent the email on the screen now. as you see, he emailed the white house, "pursuant to a request from matt gaetz, requesting a pardon for representative gaetz, himself and unnamed others." witnesses told the select committee that the president considered offering presidents to a wide range of individuals connected to the president. let's listen to some of that testimony.
mr. rosen, mr. donoghue stayed steadfastly committed to the oath they take as officials in the department of justice. on january 6th itself, they assisted during the attack while our commander in chief stayed silent. their bravery is a high moment in the sordid story of what led to january 6th. my colleagues and i up here also take an oath. some of them failed to uphold theirs, and instead, chose to spread the big lie. days after the tragic events of january 6th, some of these same republican...
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mr. rosen, mr. donahue and mr. engels stood firm. they understood that their oath was to the constitution and not to the personal or political interests of the president. the president, and his allies, became aware with legal challenges exhausted and electoral votes certified, their only hope would be a last- ditch scheme to prevent congress from certifying the win is throwing the entire system into constitutional chaos. the present one that the department to sow doubt in the legitimacy of the election. to empower his followers and members of congress to take action. if the department could lend its credibility to the conspiracies, people would have the justification they needed to spread the big lie. so president trump one of the department of justice to say the election was "corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressman". as you will hear today, the department's top leadership refuse. not surprisingly, president trump didn't take no for an answer. he didn't accept it from attorne
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"way too early" with jonathan lemire is up next. >>> you also noted that mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, d.o.j. can't and won't snap its fingers an change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said essentially that's not what i'm asking you to do, what i'm asking you to do is say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congress. >> that's the key line into the yesterday hearing from the capitol attack, called quote the smoking gun from one top criminal lawyer and said it speaks to trump's criminal intent.
"way too early" with jonathan lemire is up next. >>> you also noted that mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, d.o.j. can't and won't snap its fingers an change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said essentially that's not what i'm asking you to do, what i'm asking you to do is say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congress. >> that's the key line into the yesterday...
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rosen, who forwarded to mr. donahue. mr. donahue, did you watch this video? >> i did, congressman. >> how long was the video? >> approximately 20 minutes. >> let's look at an excerpt of that video, if we may. >> what's being said out of room, out of italy, is that this is being done in the u.s. embassy. there is a certain state department guy, whose name i don't know, i guess this will come out in italy at some point. he was the mastermind, not the mastermind, but the guy running the operation of changing the votes, and he was doing this in conjunction with some support from mi6, the cia, and this leonardo group. >> mr. donahue, what was your reaction when you watched that entire 20 minute video? >> i emailed the acting attorney general, and i said pure insanity, which was my impression of the video, which was patently absurd. >> patently absurd video about vote switching satellites and the leonardo's, made its way from republican congressman scott perry to white house chief of staff mark meadows then to the highest levels of the u.s. justice department, we l
rosen, who forwarded to mr. donahue. mr. donahue, did you watch this video? >> i did, congressman. >> how long was the video? >> approximately 20 minutes. >> let's look at an excerpt of that video, if we may. >> what's being said out of room, out of italy, is that this is being done in the u.s. embassy. there is a certain state department guy, whose name i don't know, i guess this will come out in italy at some point. he was the mastermind, not the mastermind, but...
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rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj will not snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that? >> he responded very quickly, and said essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do. i'm asking you to say it was corrupt and left leave the lesson to me in the republican congress. >> let's not put up the notes where you quote the president, as you were speaking to that. the president said just say the election was corrupt, and leave the rest to me and the republican congressman? mr. donahue, that is a direct quote from president trump, correct. >> that is the exact quote from the president, yes. >> just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me. merrick garland must decide if donald trump was asking them to commit a crime. when rosen and donahue resisted his attempts to commit election fraud, donald trump somehow found a man named jeffrey clark working in the civil division of the justice department, on environmental issues. he decided to try an
rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj will not snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that? >> he responded very quickly, and said essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do. i'm asking you to say it was corrupt and left leave the lesson to me in the republican congress. >> let's not put up the notes where you quote the president, as you were speaking to that. the president said just say the election was corrupt, and leave the...
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mr. rosen, after mr. barr announced his resignation, did donald trump continue to demand that the department of justice investigate his claims of election fraud? >> yes. he asserted that he thought the justice department had not done enough. >> thank you. from the time you took over from attorney general barr, until january 3rd, how often did president trump contact you or the department to push allegations of election fraud? >> so between december 23rd and january 3rd, the president either called me or met with me virtually every day, with one or two exceptions, like christmas day. and before that, because i had been announced that i would become the acting attorney general before the day i actually did, the president had asked that our rich donoghue and i go over and meet with him, i believe, on december 15th as well. >> so after you had some of these meetings and conversations with the president, what things did the president raise with you? >> so, the common element of all of this was the president ex
mr. rosen, after mr. barr announced his resignation, did donald trump continue to demand that the department of justice investigate his claims of election fraud? >> yes. he asserted that he thought the justice department had not done enough. >> thank you. from the time you took over from attorney general barr, until january 3rd, how often did president trump contact you or the department to push allegations of election fraud? >> so between december 23rd and january 3rd, the...
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you also noted that mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly, and said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do. what i'm just asking you to do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> all right. testimony from yesterday's january 6th committee. detailing donald trump's effort to get the justice department to ail firm his false election claims. welcome back to "morning joe." it is friday, june 24th, and with us, we have host and executive producer of the circus on show time, msnbc national affairs analyst john heilemann, and political columnist at the conservative web site, the bulwark, amanda carpenter joins us this morning. good to have you both with us . >> as we said at the top of the last hour, really extraordinary compelling evidence yesterday. i'm not exactly sure what i was expecting from the january 6th committee or wha
you also noted that mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly, and said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do. what i'm just asking you to do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> all right. testimony from yesterday's january 6th committee. detailing donald trump's effort to get...
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i listened carefully to what mr. engel and mr. rosen and mr. donoghue said today. i'm proud of the department of justice they help lead. this may sound corny to some of your viewers. but that's what you are supposed to do. you are supposed to do the right thing, even when it is hard. they did that, good for them. but that is the job. but had they not intervened, had there been weaker people, had there been spineless people in their seats rather than them, chaos, stephanie. because it would have given the imprimatur of the department of justice to anybody in georgia who wanted to submit a false slate of electors or who wanted to claim that even the justice department believed that the election in georgia and elsewhere was fraudulent. so, a very important moment, when that we should not overlook. and i'm very glad that smart people -- courageous people -- did the right thing. again, that's the job. that is what you were supposed to do, even when it is hard. >> where they able to do the right thing, luke, by appealing to trump's narcissism? they stopped him, not becau
i listened carefully to what mr. engel and mr. rosen and mr. donoghue said today. i'm proud of the department of justice they help lead. this may sound corny to some of your viewers. but that's what you are supposed to do. you are supposed to do the right thing, even when it is hard. they did that, good for them. but that is the job. but had they not intervened, had there been weaker people, had there been spineless people in their seats rather than them, chaos, stephanie. because it would have...
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rosen said to mr. trump, quote, d.o.j. can't and won't snap its fingers an change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said essentially that's not what i'm asking you to do, what i'm asking you to do is say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congress. >> that's the key line into the yesterday hearing from the capitol attack, called quote the smoking gun from one top criminal lawyer and said it speaks to trump's criminal intent. more on that. >>> and the supreme court on guns and with the supreme court going one way and congress going the other and we will tell you what it means for gun safety in america. >>> and breaking news overnight from ukraine, after weeks of fighting, the ukraine officials say the forces have to withdraw from a key battleground in the east. we'll have the latest. >>> all right. good morning. and welcome to "way too early." on this friday, june 24th. i'm sam, in for jonathan lemire. hearin
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you also noted that mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do. what i'm asking you to do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> i made the point that jeff clark is not even competent to serve as the attorney general. he's never been a criminal attorney. he's never conducted a criminal investigation in his life. he's never been in front of a trial jury. and he kind of retorted by saying, well, i've done a lot of very complicated appeals and civil litigation, environmental litigation and things like that, and i said, that's right, you're an environmental lawyer, how about you go back to your office and we'll call you when there is an oil spill? >> when he finished discussing what he planned on doing, i said, good [ bleep ] -- sorry, congratulations, you just admitted first step or
you also noted that mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do. what i'm asking you to do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> i made the point that jeff clark is not even competent to serve as the attorney general. he's never been a...
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you also noted that mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he was responded we quickly and said essentially that's not what i'm asking to you do. what i'm just asking you to do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> joining me now former federal prosecutor daniel goldman, lead counsel on former president trump's first impeachment and is now running for congress in new york. also jeffrey toobin. i want to stipulate that both of you just seconds ago told me you did not even think this hearing as big as it was was the most significant development yesterday. i will get to what you think is bigger in just a moment. but, jeffrey, you do think -- you agree with trump administration officials who say this was the most damaging hearing yet. why? >> because you had the president himself repeatedly going to his justice department team and not asking for the votes to be c
you also noted that mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he was responded we quickly and said essentially that's not what i'm asking to you do. what i'm just asking you to do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> joining me now former federal prosecutor daniel goldman, lead counsel on former president trump's...
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we know mr. donohue and mr. rosen were notetakers. the committee has dropped out bombshells and revelations and firsthand accounts of what ben and mike were talking about,her bombshells along those lines tomorrow? >> it's certainly very possible. i think you're absolutely right. we also heard from michael cohen that donald trump operates like a mob boss in terms of trying to do wink, wink, nod, nod, make sure he's communicating what he wants folks to do but being careful what he wants folks to do, not liking a record. we may well see. lawyers like to take notes. there may be some of that information, and we have already heard from the committee that they're getting more tips, more information. they want more folks to know they can still come forward and that there's more documents and information coming. i think one of the other things that's going to be very interesting is to see what pat cipollone, whether or not he'll testify. certainly at least by all accounts he was another one who may have communicated to trump, you know, you ca
we know mr. donohue and mr. rosen were notetakers. the committee has dropped out bombshells and revelations and firsthand accounts of what ben and mike were talking about,her bombshells along those lines tomorrow? >> it's certainly very possible. i think you're absolutely right. we also heard from michael cohen that donald trump operates like a mob boss in terms of trying to do wink, wink, nod, nod, make sure he's communicating what he wants folks to do but being careful what he wants...
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fillben like mr. rosen told mr. clark to stand down and he didn't. >> so j, john, cipollone knows lot. he was in the room for multiple conversations. what specific questions does he need to answer? >> that's a devastating take on all the questions that he needs to be asked and asked what he recommended, why he recommended it, was he involved it in any way? did he declare publicly somehow he didn't want any part of this? how did he tell people to stay out of it? who all did he tell? i mean it just goes on. he is is a central witness since cassidy has testified. and others obviously hinted earlier of his central role. so i just can't understand why he doesn't want to get this off himself unless, indeed, don, he is involved. and then he's not going to be able to hide behind the privilege. >> ryan, the select committee says more and more evidence is coming into their investigation. you know they've got this hot line, et cetera. what are you learning? >> well, we know they held a deposition today, don. they were behind c
fillben like mr. rosen told mr. clark to stand down and he didn't. >> so j, john, cipollone knows lot. he was in the room for multiple conversations. what specific questions does he need to answer? >> that's a devastating take on all the questions that he needs to be asked and asked what he recommended, why he recommended it, was he involved it in any way? did he declare publicly somehow he didn't want any part of this? how did he tell people to stay out of it? who all did he tell?...
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>> did anybody in there supported mr. clark? >> no one. >> mr. rosen, it was you he was going to replace. what was your view about the president's plan to appoint mr. clark? >> well, as i lewded to earlier, the issue wasn't about me. it was -- it would have been fine, as i said, to have rich donoghue replace me. >> welcome to "the five." the january 6th hearings continuing on capitol. we'll monitor it for breaking news. you can watch it on foxnews.com/stream. the supreme court with a ruling that will rock blue states from coast to coast. the nation's highest court tossing out new york state's restrictive regulations on conceal permits, and saying american have a legal right to carry firearms in public. the bombshell ruling could spread to other blue states like california. the white house said new york leaders furious and lashing out. >> today the supreme court is sending us backwards in our efforts to protect families and prevent gun violence. shocking. absolutely shocking. i'm sorry this dark day has. >> this decision has made every single one
>> did anybody in there supported mr. clark? >> no one. >> mr. rosen, it was you he was going to replace. what was your view about the president's plan to appoint mr. clark? >> well, as i lewded to earlier, the issue wasn't about me. it was -- it would have been fine, as i said, to have rich donoghue replace me. >> welcome to "the five." the january 6th hearings continuing on capitol. we'll monitor it for breaking news. you can watch it on...
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. >> you also noted that mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj won't snapped its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? he responded very quickly >> he said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do. i'm just asking you to do to say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congress. >> say it was corrupt, and leave the rest to me and a republican congressman. charles, how critical was this moment in the testimony -- how critical was this? >> simone, it was quite significant because [inaudible] when people viewed the legal field were viewed as arbiters of truth. we're viewed as people who are supposed to play on the field of right. when you look to the doj, when you look to the attorney general to validate something you know is not true, when you're attempting to do is lean into a lie and use the cloak of justice, that cloak that i just described, never write, or a truth to paint this lie to the american public. but they were going to do, but they wer
. >> you also noted that mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj won't snapped its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? he responded very quickly >> he said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do. i'm just asking you to do to say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congress. >> say it was corrupt, and leave the rest to me and a republican congressman. charles, how critical was this moment...
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. >> you also noted that mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said essentially that's not what i'm asking you do. what i'm asking you to do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> the committee revealed notes from the justice department officials documenting their calls with trump. and you can see it here, just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. multiple sources tell cnn trump's allies acknowledged thursday's testimony causes damaging and bleak. another note revealing whether the former president was getting his conspiracy theories. >> he told mr. donoghue in that december 27th call, quote, you guys may not be following the internet the way i do. >> we are also learning that several congressional republicans were pushing these internet conspiracy theories trying to overturn the electi
. >> you also noted that mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said essentially that's not what i'm asking you do. what i'm asking you to do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> the committee revealed notes from the justice department officials documenting their calls with...
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and save at trelegy.com. >>> you also noted that mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and went to snap his fingers and change the outcome of the election. how does the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do. what i'm asking you to do is say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congress. >> back with betsy woodruff swan, and matthew miller. let me play the members of congress, going in between donald trump and the doj of the time. >> calling on attorney general barr to immediately let us know what he is doing. >> we are working on challenging the certified electors. and tell me about the courts. how pathetic are the courts? >> democracy is left undefended if we accept the results of a stolen election, without fighting with every bit of vigor we can muster. >> today is the day american patriots start taking down names, and kicking ass. >> they can say whatever they want to push the justice department around and bully them. in your imagination, w
and save at trelegy.com. >>> you also noted that mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and went to snap his fingers and change the outcome of the election. how does the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do. what i'm asking you to do is say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congress. >> back with betsy woodruff swan, and matthew miller. let me play the members...
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rosen said to mr. trump, quote, d.o.j. can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do. what i'm just asking you to do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> reporter: instead jeffrey clark, an environmental lawyer at d.o.j. with no experience in elections, wrote a draft letter that he intended to send to battle ground states trump lost, saying the department had identified significant concerns that may impact the outcome o onat w false.efhe january 6th attack on the capitol, a tense hours long oval office meeting took place where trump threatened to replace rosen with clark. >> toward the end of the meeting, the president again was getting very agitated and he said, people tell me i should just get rid of both of you. i should just remove you and make a change in leadership, put jeff clark in, maybe something will final
rosen said to mr. trump, quote, d.o.j. can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do. what i'm just asking you to do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> reporter: instead jeffrey clark, an environmental lawyer at d.o.j. with no experience in elections, wrote a draft letter...
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you all said that mr. rosen said to mr. trump, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that? >> he responded very quickly and said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do. what i'm just asking you to do is say it was corrupt and leave the rest to be and the republican congressman. >> so let's now put up the notes where you put the president. he said, the president, the president said, just say the election was corrupt, and leave the rest to me and the republican congressman. so, mr. donoghue, that's a direct quote from president trump, correct? >> not an exact quote from the president, yes. >> perhaps the most dramatic moment of the testimony was what donoghue later said about december 2020 white house meeting where he tried to explain to donald trump in great detail what would happen if trump removed then acting attorney general jeffrey rosen and tried to install jeffrey clark as attorney general to push discredited election fraud nonsense. >>
you all said that mr. rosen said to mr. trump, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that? >> he responded very quickly and said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do. what i'm just asking you to do is say it was corrupt and leave the rest to be and the republican congressman. >> so let's now put up the notes where you put the president. he said, the president, the president said, just say the...
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you also noted that mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj compla comp can't and won't snap its fingers and change the election. how did the president respond to that? >> he responded very quickly and said essentially that's not what i'm asking you do, what i'm asking you do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> michael, do you agree with dave that that speaks to the former president's intent here? >> absolutely. and i also would add to that that on the january 3 meeting in the white house, rosen and trump were having a conversation and trump says to rosen, you are not going to do anything about this, are you? you're not going to send this proof of concept letter that clark drafted this fraudulent letter about fraud in georgia. and he said i'm absolutely not going to do anything about it. and he said i can't do anything about it, it is unconstitutional, it is illegal, and in the aftermath of that, trump still moved forward in an effort to get this false letter out there. so to
you also noted that mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj compla comp can't and won't snap its fingers and change the election. how did the president respond to that? >> he responded very quickly and said essentially that's not what i'm asking you do, what i'm asking you do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> michael, do you agree with dave that that speaks to the former president's intent here? >> absolutely. and i also...
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you also noted that mr. rosen center mr. trump, doj cannot and will not snap his fingers and changed the outcome of the election. how did the president respond? >> he responded very quickly and essentially said that is not what i am asking you to do. i am asking you to say it was corrupt and leave the rest of me and the republican congressmen "washington journal >> he said the president said just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. that is a direct quote from president trump, correct? >> that is a direct quote, yes. >> the next note shows the president kept pressing. the president keep saying the department was obligated to tell people this was an illegal, corrupt election. >> that is also an exact quote from the president, yes. >> did the department find any evidence to conclude there was anything illegal or corrupt about the 2020 election? >> there were isolated incidents of fraud, nothing came close to calling into question the outcome of the election in any individual sta
you also noted that mr. rosen center mr. trump, doj cannot and will not snap his fingers and changed the outcome of the election. how did the president respond? >> he responded very quickly and essentially said that is not what i am asking you to do. i am asking you to say it was corrupt and leave the rest of me and the republican congressmen "washington journal >> he said the president said just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican...
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what happened once they took over. >> mr. rosen, on christmas eve, your first official day as acting attorney general, president trump called you. what did he want to talk about? >> the same things he was talking about publicly. >> stephen: so, low-flow toilets and windmill cancer? no? ( laughter ) keep in mind, this was on december 24th. what a lovely way to spend christmas eve: "'twas the night before christmas and all through d.c. the potus was screaming 'the winner was me!' the conspiracies hung like a stench in the air as thin and as fake as the president's hair." ( cheers and applause ) the former president was persistent, as kinzinger explained: >> in the weeks leading to january 6, the department of justice was fielding almost-daily requests from the president to investigate claims of election fraud. each claim was refuted and time again, an effort attorney general barr described as "whack-a-mole." >> stephen: and when that whack-a-mole didn't work they would eventually go on to "whack mike pence." ( audience reacts )
what happened once they took over. >> mr. rosen, on christmas eve, your first official day as acting attorney general, president trump called you. what did he want to talk about? >> the same things he was talking about publicly. >> stephen: so, low-flow toilets and windmill cancer? no? ( laughter ) keep in mind, this was on december 24th. what a lovely way to spend christmas eve: "'twas the night before christmas and all through d.c. the potus was screaming 'the winner...
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. >> you also noted mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking to you do. what i'm asking you to do is say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressman. >> it wasn't paraphrasing, okay. let me show you the hand-written note that donohue took, that he wrote, on the day of the call. just say that the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the r. congressman. there you have it. multiple sources tonight are telling our kaitlan collins that trump allies acknowledged that testimony today was damaging and bleak and important to note people in trump's orbit downplayed other hearings so far so today, seeing it differently. part of the reason is the witnesses today clearly detailed how trump tried to pressure the justice department to help him hold on to power and again, hear the crucial thing, even after he had been told ag
. >> you also noted mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking to you do. what i'm asking you to do is say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressman. >> it wasn't paraphrasing, okay. let me show you the hand-written note that donohue took, that he wrote, on the day of the...
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you also noted that mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly, and said, essentially, that is not what i am asking you to do. what i am asking you to do is, say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressman. >> it is astounding that he is saying this to a top doj official. is this criminal behavior? >> to me, that line, just say there was fraud, that is the crux of what you would be looking at if you're thinking of charging obstruction of justice or conspiracy to defraud the united states. by the way, there is no real question in my mind that he said it, richard donoghue is a credible witness who took contemporaneous notes while he is on that phone call. you see his handwritten notes. i didn't have any question that donald trump said that, and that is the whole point. just say it. >> we will do the rest. >> witness after witness testified about trump's ham- fi
you also noted that mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly, and said, essentially, that is not what i am asking you to do. what i am asking you to do is, say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressman. >> it is astounding that he is saying this to a top doj official. is this criminal behavior? >> to me,...
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. >> you also noted that mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election, how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do, what i'm just asking you to do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> just say it was corrupt. we also learned that when top doj officials refused to back his false election claims, trump wanted to install a little known doj environmental attorney and trump loyalist jeffrey clark as the acting attorney general. just hours before yesterday's hearing, federal agents raided clark's home. we'll have much more on the details of that in a moment. let's begin with cnn political correspondent sara murray. a lot that stood out from yesterday's hearing yesterday, consequential because you have eyewitness accounts of what the president said in those moments. >> absolutely. just the sort of intimate but also blunt assessment we
. >> you also noted that mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election, how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do, what i'm just asking you to do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> just say it was corrupt. we also learned that when top doj officials refused to back his...
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rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap his fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that? >> he responded very quickly, and said, essentially, that is not what i'm asking you to do. what i am asking you to do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me on the republican congressman. >> that was former acting deputy attorney general richard donahue testing today during the presidential transmission. donahue said donahue urged him and another top justice department official to just declare, that the clancy 2020 election was corrupt and leave the rest to him. someone who knows firsthand, former legal counsel to democrats during trump's first impeachment, herman isan. what does that say to you, do you think about the former president intends. >> it shows a disregard for the truth, jake. when you say, just declare it is corrupt, and leave it to me in the republican congressman. we learned that the republican congressmen were so concerned abou
rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap his fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that? >> he responded very quickly, and said, essentially, that is not what i'm asking you to do. what i am asking you to do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me on the republican congressman. >> that was former acting deputy attorney general richard donahue testing today during the presidential transmission. donahue said...
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makes hybrid work, work better. >>> you also noted that mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do. what i'm just asking you to do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> that was former acting attorney general richard donahue testifying today during the presidential transition. donahue says the former president urged him and another top justice department official to just declare that the 2020 election was corrupt and leave the rest to him and a bunch of republican congressmen. joining us now, someone who knows firsthand the significance of these kinds of hearings, former special counsel to house democrats during trump's first impeachment, normanize b. norman, thanks for joining us. what does that statement convey to you, do you think, about the former president's intent? >> jake, thanks for having me. it shows a d
makes hybrid work, work better. >>> you also noted that mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do. what i'm just asking you to do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> that was former acting attorney general richard donahue...
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. >> mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do. what i'm just asking you to do was say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the rest of the republican congressmen >> say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the rest of the republican congressmen as january 6th approached, rosen and donoghue testified president trump grew more and more agitated the white house was pushing them to investigate an outlandish conspiracy theory from the internet that italian satellites switched the votes over to biden. rosen and donoghue said president trump wanted a special counsel to investigate, one of his cronies, and wanting to seize machines from states, something they refused to do >> we had seen nothing improper with regard to the voting machines, and i told him that the real experts of that had been at dhs, and
. >> mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking you to do. what i'm just asking you to do was say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the rest of the republican congressmen >> say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the rest of the republican congressmen as january 6th...
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when you get the testimony from mr. rosen and donahue and the justice department saying this was crazy, the attorney general and what did donald trump want to do? he wanted to fire them all and put an environmental lawyer in charge of the justice department. the speaker in arizona wouldn't do his bidding. michigan officials wouldn't do his bidding. he couldn't get the pennsylvania people to do his bidding. that is the point they're trying methodically. this is not a president who was venting. this was a president who knew he lost and kept looking for people to help him cheat. >> one of the other things i wonder about this if pat cipollone is making this decision, i don't want to be completely on the outs with republicans, et cetera. liz cheney said this today. we know that he was internal at the white house trying to push back on a lot of this stuff. donald trump has already got him on his enemies list, you know what i mean? that's done. that ship has sailed. donald trump said something negative about ivanka trump the o
when you get the testimony from mr. rosen and donahue and the justice department saying this was crazy, the attorney general and what did donald trump want to do? he wanted to fire them all and put an environmental lawyer in charge of the justice department. the speaker in arizona wouldn't do his bidding. michigan officials wouldn't do his bidding. he couldn't get the pennsylvania people to do his bidding. that is the point they're trying methodically. this is not a president who was venting....