so that's really important. >> let me ask lee casey for a response. >> well, i think maybe that's the answer. they were not acting as clinicians. they were acting effectively as i suppose you could say consultantses to the government to help them design interrogation strategies that would be effective with particular individuals. >> what do you see as the role of medical personnel in situations like this? >> well, i think there are two roles. first of all, obviously, the united states has a number of people in custody. that means we have an obligation to those people to take care of their health, their basic well-being, and that involves obviously medical care. in addition, of course, when you're putting together an interrogation strategy or assessing a particular individual, the assistance of psychological professionals, psychiatrists and psychologists would be invaluable and it may not have been done before. but then this is the kind of war we've never really fought before. >> well, that's-- does that fit your definition of the role of medical person snell. >> no, it doesn't. and mo