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jeffrey mcconney, "no." we are back with adam klasfeld, andrew weissman, and neal katyal. andrew, what was established in the testimony today? >> i will do a mini summation on what you are talking with adam about in terms of well, this witness couldn't say that he had a conversation with donald trump comes exhibits at 35 and 36, the 2 handwritten notations, 1 of which is on the house money payment bank record, that is not some loose piece of paper, it is on that. of course, this witness says i don't deal with donald trump directly. ask yourself, allen weisselberg, why would he possibly do this, why would he dare do this, which is to not only reimburse michael cohen $130,000.00 but reimburse him another $130,000.00 without telling his boss? he would be fired for that. why would you do that on your own? there has been ample testimony about donald trump is a micromanager. so, what are you going to do, slip it by him? as you pointed out, he is signing the checks and seeing the invoices. you have to hope he's not going to ask any questions while he's paying double the amount of
jeffrey mcconney, "no." we are back with adam klasfeld, andrew weissman, and neal katyal. andrew, what was established in the testimony today? >> i will do a mini summation on what you are talking with adam about in terms of well, this witness couldn't say that he had a conversation with donald trump comes exhibits at 35 and 36, the 2 handwritten notations, 1 of which is on the house money payment bank record, that is not some loose piece of paper, it is on that. of course, this...
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allen weisselberg saw jeffrey mcconney. mcconney reported to weisselberg. wiesel person was there when donald trump specifically said if you pay off stormy daniels, somebody whose testimony could have been key here. they'll rely on jeffrey mcconney who is the one that made the determination on the checks it should be noted -- i should say on the ledger as retainer for legal expenses. he potentially over the course of these next hours could begin to build for the prosecution a more tactical understanding and description of exactly how the reimbursement scheme and how the falsification of business records was ultimately executed by him and others through donald trump's orders. >> carol, it sounds like the prosecution right now is sort of laying the groundwork for mcconney's role in the organization and his relationship with trump. there was some color written that trump seemed to laugh in his seat when mcconney recounted a story about trump pretending to fire him. first thinking about "the apprentice." trump is obviously engaged with this testimony. what do y
allen weisselberg saw jeffrey mcconney. mcconney reported to weisselberg. wiesel person was there when donald trump specifically said if you pay off stormy daniels, somebody whose testimony could have been key here. they'll rely on jeffrey mcconney who is the one that made the determination on the checks it should be noted -- i should say on the ledger as retainer for legal expenses. he potentially over the course of these next hours could begin to build for the prosecution a more tactical...
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taking the stand this morning, jeffrey mcconney, who oversaw the trump organization's accounting department. striking at the heart of the prosecution's case of falsifying business records. testifying about invoices describing the reimbursements as legal expenses, saying he was ordered by another trump organization executive to reimburse cohen $420,000 for the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels, most from mr. trump's personal account. but on cross-examination mcconney said he had not spoken to mr. trump directly about the business records. another trump organization employee, debra tarasoff, testifying about mr. trump's process of signing checks including to cohen, which were shown to the jury saying "if he didn't want to sign it he didn't sign it. it was signed in sharpie and it was black and that's what he uses." >> vaughn, the prosecution also giving an indication of the timing of this case. >> reporter: yeah, lester. prosecutors said they intend to call witnesses for about the next two weeks. at that point mr. trump's team will be
taking the stand this morning, jeffrey mcconney, who oversaw the trump organization's accounting department. striking at the heart of the prosecution's case of falsifying business records. testifying about invoices describing the reimbursements as legal expenses, saying he was ordered by another trump organization executive to reimburse cohen $420,000 for the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels, most from mr. trump's personal account. but on cross-examination mcconney said he had not spoken to...
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the jury hearing from former trump organization controller jeffrey mcconney who played a role in reimbursing michael cohen for the payment he made to stormy daniels. just before testimony resumed, the judge fined trump another $1,000 for violating the partial gag order imposed on him. that's in addition to the $9,000 he was fined last week for previous violations. the judge also warned trump directly, future violations could see him sent to jail, saying, quote, it appears that $1,000 fines are not serving as a deterrent. with us now to talk more about this msnbc national correspondent yasmin vossoughian outside the courthouse in lower manhattan. michael zeldan, special counsel to robert mueller, he's a professor at american university and david aaronberg state attorney for california. yasmin, it's been an intense day in the courtroom so far. i think we just lost yasmin. we just did. let me ask you, dave, if i could, the morning started with this admonition by judge merchan to the former president. this is the tenth one, another grand. it's 10 grand, but it's not doing a lot. the other big bo
the jury hearing from former trump organization controller jeffrey mcconney who played a role in reimbursing michael cohen for the payment he made to stormy daniels. just before testimony resumed, the judge fined trump another $1,000 for violating the partial gag order imposed on him. that's in addition to the $9,000 he was fined last week for previous violations. the judge also warned trump directly, future violations could see him sent to jail, saying, quote, it appears that $1,000 fines are...
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jeffrey mcconney may not be a household name like hope hicks or stormy daniels, but he's a 35-year employee of the trump organization and he's hitting at the prosecution to prove the case to this jury that falsification of the business records in the checks that were provided to donald trump, provided to michael cohen by donald trump were done with the intent to conceal the hush money payment to stormy daniels before the 2016 election. mcconney is important. he was working at the comptroller at the trump organization overseeing the accounting and the ledger and was the one who he testified today at the direction of the cfo, allen weisselberg, ultimately sent over the approval for the invoices for cohen to be reimbursed. this is at the charges being charged against donald trump. because what was alleged here, and mcconney testified today, was that cohen was not only just being reimbursed for the daniels payment, but there was an apparent agreement to juice the amount, double the amount he was to be reimbursed for the purposes of him being able to consider the compensation as income in order
jeffrey mcconney may not be a household name like hope hicks or stormy daniels, but he's a 35-year employee of the trump organization and he's hitting at the prosecution to prove the case to this jury that falsification of the business records in the checks that were provided to donald trump, provided to michael cohen by donald trump were done with the intent to conceal the hush money payment to stormy daniels before the 2016 election. mcconney is important. he was working at the comptroller at...
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>> jeffrey mcconney for sure. jeffrey mcconney was the x controller at the trump organization. he was on the 26 floor which is where trump has his office a michael cohen once had his office. the kids are on the 25th floor. to give an idea of how one side he is and the whole operation, it's a small family business. it's run by a small family business. it's important to understand that. he was involved in facilitating the repayments to michael cohen. he ran through two big things. one was explaining the handwriting of allen weisselberg on the bank statement from michael cohen's shell company he used to pay stormy daniels' lawyer. that was interesting. if you only have michael cohen describing the handwriting, you might say you don't know that allen weisselberg's handwriting. >> they are backing it up. >> when mcconney says it, there is a degree of credibility that any on the witness could bring in this case. it kind of shows there is this -- two times for tax. this is fascinating because he is basically saying that these legal expenses were treated as legal expenses. the prosecut
>> jeffrey mcconney for sure. jeffrey mcconney was the x controller at the trump organization. he was on the 26 floor which is where trump has his office a michael cohen once had his office. the kids are on the 25th floor. to give an idea of how one side he is and the whole operation, it's a small family business. it's run by a small family business. it's important to understand that. he was involved in facilitating the repayments to michael cohen. he ran through two big things. one was...
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this morning, former trump organization controller jeffrey mcconney testified before the court and his cross-examination on the stand just wrapped a short time ago. what he revealed about the strange paper trail that followed the alleged hush money payments to stormy daniels, and how much of it, if anything implicates donald trump directly. there's a whole lot of drama in the courtroom before mcconney was sworn in. how close is donald trump to being put behind bars for his ongoing gag order violations. we'll explain the most expolice -- explicit warning after donald trump was found in criminal contempt again today. let's get into the testimony happening right now. and joining us from outside the courthouse is nbc news national correspondent, yasmin vossoughian. so bring us up to speed on what's happening right now in the courtroom? >> reporter: so, you just mentioned her, deborah tarasoff, she is a supervisor for accounts payable. she has been working for the trump organization since 2000. so 24 years. by the way, she is the first current employee for the trump organization to take the
this morning, former trump organization controller jeffrey mcconney testified before the court and his cross-examination on the stand just wrapped a short time ago. what he revealed about the strange paper trail that followed the alleged hush money payments to stormy daniels, and how much of it, if anything implicates donald trump directly. there's a whole lot of drama in the courtroom before mcconney was sworn in. how close is donald trump to being put behind bars for his ongoing gag order...
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after the break, we heard from a woman who worked in the accounting department under jeffrey mcconney and allen weisselburg. she was the one who labeled those checks as legal expenses. that was all just one day of testimony. there is still a lot more to come in this case, which prosecutors now say is halfway finished, at least for their part. with michael cohen and stormy daniels still yet to testify, it is going to be a pretty interesting couple of weeks, to say the least. the southern district attorney of new york, where he led prosecutions against white collar criminals and he joined me now. i am not a lawyer, i tried to summarize what we learned today. i tried to summarize, i talked to a lot of smart people. i tried to summarize what we learned today. did i miss anything, did i get anything wrong? >> that was a pretty good summary. what you heard today was testimony that was not so dramatic. not as dramatic and salacious as some of the testimony we have heard before. we are certain to occur in the coming days but it goes to the core of the basic criminal charge here, which is fals
after the break, we heard from a woman who worked in the accounting department under jeffrey mcconney and allen weisselburg. she was the one who labeled those checks as legal expenses. that was all just one day of testimony. there is still a lot more to come in this case, which prosecutors now say is halfway finished, at least for their part. with michael cohen and stormy daniels still yet to testify, it is going to be a pretty interesting couple of weeks, to say the least. the southern...
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taking the stand, jeffrey mcconney who oversaw the trump organization's accounting department, testifying about invoices, describing the reimbursements as legal expenses, saying he was ordered by another trump organization executive to reimburse cohen $420,000 for the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels. most from mr. trump's personal account. but on cross examination, mcconnie said he had not spoken to mr. trump directly about the business record. another trump organization employee testifying about mr. trump's process of signing checks, including to cohen, which were shown to the jury, saying, if he didn't want to sign it, he didn't sign it. it was signed in sharpie, and it was black, and that's what he uses. now the prosecution indicated today that they still have the number of witnesses to go. about two weeks, they expect, to continue to present their case against the defendant donald trump. at that point, the defense team for donald trump will be able to present its own defense. and of course the outstanding question of whether the former president himself will take the stand to make
taking the stand, jeffrey mcconney who oversaw the trump organization's accounting department, testifying about invoices, describing the reimbursements as legal expenses, saying he was ordered by another trump organization executive to reimburse cohen $420,000 for the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels. most from mr. trump's personal account. but on cross examination, mcconnie said he had not spoken to mr. trump directly about the business record. another trump organization employee testifying...
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. >> reporter: and jury heard from jeffrey mcconney. he oversaw the accounting department at the trump organization during the time prosecutors accused mr. trump of falsifying records. mcconnie testified that he was ordered to reimburse michael cohen for a $130,000 payment to stormy daniels, with most of the money coming from mr. trump's personal account. but he said he did not talk to mr. trump about the business records. the jury was also shown checks written to michael cohen with donald trump's signature. another trump organization employee testified that most of the checks were signed at the white house. prosecutors estimate that they will need about two more weeks to call witnesses. then mr. trump's attorneys will take over, and we could see the former president take the stand in his own defense. >> brie, thank you. >>> an american soldier was detained in russia last week the army says. staff sergeant gordon black was stationed at a base in south korea. he had reached the end of his tour when he traveled to russia to visit a woman.
. >> reporter: and jury heard from jeffrey mcconney. he oversaw the accounting department at the trump organization during the time prosecutors accused mr. trump of falsifying records. mcconnie testified that he was ordered to reimburse michael cohen for a $130,000 payment to stormy daniels, with most of the money coming from mr. trump's personal account. but he said he did not talk to mr. trump about the business records. the jury was also shown checks written to michael cohen with...
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there was no question there to tarasoff, and jeffrey mcconney they testified about the foreign $20,000, but breakdown for us about what that was showing to the jury that they did some math. yeah, they arithmetic. is there. >> how does that translate? >> thanks. number one, that the structuring of the payments and $35,000, then we see it here. might look suspicious on its face and the i think the biggest concern for all parties involved came on cross-examination where they asked jeffrey mcconney directly did you hear donald trump direct these payments and forgive me, i'm paraphrasing a little bit and he said no. and then they said no further questions, your honore, because a big part of the defense's case, as arguing and they said in their opening statement, they're going to say it and they're closing them to keep hammering this point but there's no direct link between donald trump and the provision of the payments. now, you can establish that someone knew that payments were being made by having every employee& is organization say yeah, it's a small business and he knows what's happenin
there was no question there to tarasoff, and jeffrey mcconney they testified about the foreign $20,000, but breakdown for us about what that was showing to the jury that they did some math. yeah, they arithmetic. is there. >> how does that translate? >> thanks. number one, that the structuring of the payments and $35,000, then we see it here. might look suspicious on its face and the i think the biggest concern for all parties involved came on cross-examination where they asked...
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mcconney took the stand. he detailed how he was called to a meeting with then cfo allen weisselberg in january 2017. he said he was given a copy of cohen's bank statement showing his $130,000 wire to stormy daniels' lawyer. mcconney�*s handwritten note details the map that led to michael cohen being reimbursed with $35,000 monthly over the course of the year. he also showed a series of emails, invoices and leisure entries that are key pieces of evidence in the prosecution's case because ultimately it's falsifying business records, not the hush money payment on its own that's at issue here. trump's lawyers claim the payments to cohen were for legitimate legal work but mcconney testified he never saw a legal retainer agreement for cohen. on cross—examination by the defence mcconney said weisselberg never told him what cohen was seeking reimbursement for so is there yet solid proof that donald trump was the architect? jurors will hear from witnesses including michael cohen himself. argentina's presidentjavie
mcconney took the stand. he detailed how he was called to a meeting with then cfo allen weisselberg in january 2017. he said he was given a copy of cohen's bank statement showing his $130,000 wire to stormy daniels' lawyer. mcconney�*s handwritten note details the map that led to michael cohen being reimbursed with $35,000 monthly over the course of the year. he also showed a series of emails, invoices and leisure entries that are key pieces of evidence in the prosecution's case because...
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after the hearing, we heard testimony from a man named jeffrey mcconney. a long time comptroller of the trump organization, serving under the now incarcerated chief financial officer allen weisselberg. while the testimony may not have been quite as dramatic as some we have seen in recent days, it cut to the heart of what the case is about. the legal case. donald trump is not on trial for allegedly having an affair with a pornography store. he is on trial for falsifying business records to cover up the $130,000 in hush money he paid her in order to prevent the news from getting out to the public in the weeks before an election. mcconney later how they happen. the biggest question the defense raised in the cases, if michael cohen paid stormy daniels 130 grand to cover up the affair with trump, why was cohen reimbursed $400,000 in return? thanks to financial documents presented as evidence today, we learned how that came to be the case. a quick word of advice would be felons, hopefully you're not watching, but if you are, if you're planning on taking part in
after the hearing, we heard testimony from a man named jeffrey mcconney. a long time comptroller of the trump organization, serving under the now incarcerated chief financial officer allen weisselberg. while the testimony may not have been quite as dramatic as some we have seen in recent days, it cut to the heart of what the case is about. the legal case. donald trump is not on trial for allegedly having an affair with a pornography store. he is on trial for falsifying business records to cover...
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but remember what jeffrey mcconney said last week. the controller at the trump organization worked for the company for 36 years and the one responsible for putting in the company ledger what payment went to whom and why. he was the one that had the legal payment put into the record. and he said quote, there are a number of accounts you can post it to. we were paying a lawyer, michael cohen, so i said to put it -- post it to legal expenses in the general ledger. jonathan, i imagine we may come back to that point very soon. >> i think so. the funny thing is, that point happens to be the case, right? this is all about how these payments were denoted on business records. and many people still insist that this is perfectly accurate as a legal expense. if you remember, the hillary campaign first of all lied about funding the steele dossier but they ultimately hid it by listing it as a legal expense. they were fined for that by the f.e.c. but they litigated that and insisted no, that was a legal expense that was paid through mark he lie answ
but remember what jeffrey mcconney said last week. the controller at the trump organization worked for the company for 36 years and the one responsible for putting in the company ledger what payment went to whom and why. he was the one that had the legal payment put into the record. and he said quote, there are a number of accounts you can post it to. we were paying a lawyer, michael cohen, so i said to put it -- post it to legal expenses in the general ledger. jonathan, i imagine we may come...
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mcconney taking the stand, telling the jury about a meeting he says he had with former trump cfo allen weisselberg back in 2017. he testified they discussed how to reimburse trump's former lawyer, michael cohen, who wired the $130,000 payment to daniels just days before the 2016 election. some of the money coming from trump's personal account. mcconney, testifying that only trump could sign those checks. defense attorneys trying to distance trump from the pair's plan, asking mcconney president trump did not ask you to do any of the things that you just described, correct? mcconney replying he did not trump improperly, calling it a legal expense when he repaid cohen, according to prosecutors. but defense attorneys asking mcconney about that classification, who said it may have been categorized that way because of the trump organization's, quote, antiquated internal payment system. prosecutors also calling longtime trump organization employee deborah tarasoff a direct report to mcconney, who worked as an accountant's payable supervisor when cohen submitted invoices to be reimbursed in 20
mcconney taking the stand, telling the jury about a meeting he says he had with former trump cfo allen weisselberg back in 2017. he testified they discussed how to reimburse trump's former lawyer, michael cohen, who wired the $130,000 payment to daniels just days before the 2016 election. some of the money coming from trump's personal account. mcconney, testifying that only trump could sign those checks. defense attorneys trying to distance trump from the pair's plan, asking mcconney president...
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next up on the witness stand was jeffrey mcconney, the former controller for the trump organization. mcconney laid out in detail how he was ordered by trump's former chief financial officer, allen weisselberg, to reimburse trump's former lawyer, michael cohen entered into evidence and shown. here were notes by mcconney detailing the amount owed to cohen for a number of reimbursements. this includes a $130,000 trump allegedly owed to cohen after cohen paid out of his own pocket to keep stormy daniels quiet about her alleged sexual encounter with trump. this money was to be broken into monthly payments, and nine of the 11 checks to cohen came from trump's personal account. mcconney testified that these checks were sent to the white house for trump to sign. although the testimony was tedious at times, it also cut to the heart of the case. prosecutors allege that trump falsified business records when he classified cohen's reimbursements as legal expenses. mcconney testified that cohen emailed his first fraudulent invoice on february 14th, 2017, which he approved. however, mcconney acknow
next up on the witness stand was jeffrey mcconney, the former controller for the trump organization. mcconney laid out in detail how he was ordered by trump's former chief financial officer, allen weisselberg, to reimburse trump's former lawyer, michael cohen entered into evidence and shown. here were notes by mcconney detailing the amount owed to cohen for a number of reimbursements. this includes a $130,000 trump allegedly owed to cohen after cohen paid out of his own pocket to keep stormy...
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taking the stand yesterday, jeffrey mcconney, who oversaw the trump organization's accounting department, he says he was ordered to reimburse another executive $420,000 to michael cohen for the $130,000 alleged payment to adult film actress stormy daniels from trump's personal account. trump has pleaded not guilty to 34 counts of falsifying business records. and we're learning more about president joe biden and the first lady's visit to the bay area later on this week. the president will touch down on friday and attend two fundraisers. his campaign added a second event to his schedule on friday. president biden will be in palo alto for a fundraiser hosted by silicon valley heavyweights. those include marissa mayer and joe ansanelli. he'll also be attending a separate event at the portola valley, home of billionaire venture capitalist vinod khosla. first lady jill biden will also be in town this week. she is expected to speak at an event in marin county on thursday night. it is part of a three day fundraising trip for the first lady, which also includes stops in southern california, orego
taking the stand yesterday, jeffrey mcconney, who oversaw the trump organization's accounting department, he says he was ordered to reimburse another executive $420,000 to michael cohen for the $130,000 alleged payment to adult film actress stormy daniels from trump's personal account. trump has pleaded not guilty to 34 counts of falsifying business records. and we're learning more about president joe biden and the first lady's visit to the bay area later on this week. the president will touch...
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jeffrey mcconney, who had a long-time close relationship with donald trump, was the one individual who's kind of working as the middle man when it came to the invoices from michael cohen, who was seeking repayment for the money that he paid to stormy daniels before the 2016 election and then ultimately what turned into checks personally signed by donald trump. and is sort of that middle man overseeing the accounting department. mcconney testified today that he was under the impression and was told that these were in fact reimbursement checks, not legal expenses as were suggested in the filings. of course this is important because donald trump has been charged with 34 felony counts of falsifying business records on how they explained away the money that was being sent from donald trump to michael cohen after the 2016 election. but also notably today was that gag order, which was a big deal to hear the words from the judge fining donald trump for the tenth time to have violated the gag order. this one specifically as it pertained to concerns about the jury and donald trump's potential harm
jeffrey mcconney, who had a long-time close relationship with donald trump, was the one individual who's kind of working as the middle man when it came to the invoices from michael cohen, who was seeking repayment for the money that he paid to stormy daniels before the 2016 election and then ultimately what turned into checks personally signed by donald trump. and is sort of that middle man overseeing the accounting department. mcconney testified today that he was under the impression and was...
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the jury spent it hearing from jeffrey mcconney, a former top executive at the trump organization. he handled the reimbursements to michael cohen for paying off stormy daniels. there are a pile of documents we're seeing for the first time, including these checks. if you're familiar with donald trump's signatures, those are checks that were signed by donald trump himself after an explanation about the difference between a trust, which was an account for the company, and a, essentially, private account for donald trump. well, mcconney detailed how he kept notes and bank statements related to cohen stored in a locked door and how the hush money checks had to be sent to the white house for donald trump to sign. i want to bring in nbc's vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse. joyce vance is a university of alabama law professor. tristan snell is with me, author of "taking down trump 12 rules for prosecuting donald trump by someone who did it successfully." charles coleman is here, civil rights attorney, former brooklyn prosecutor, msnbc legal analyst, and republican strategist and msnbc
the jury spent it hearing from jeffrey mcconney, a former top executive at the trump organization. he handled the reimbursements to michael cohen for paying off stormy daniels. there are a pile of documents we're seeing for the first time, including these checks. if you're familiar with donald trump's signatures, those are checks that were signed by donald trump himself after an explanation about the difference between a trust, which was an account for the company, and a, essentially, private...
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mcconney, that lay out the reimbursement to cohen for the hush money payment in the form of those $35,000 monthly checks. steinglass called these exhibits the smoking guns. and if you haven't noticed, the weisselberg notes are on a copy of an account statement from first republic bank, noting the $130,000 wire transfer from cohen's account to stormy daniels' lawyer, keith davidson. it's also worth noting that trump's defense left that unresolved in their closing arguments. i wonder why. come tomorrow, judge juan merchan will read off the all important instructions to the jury which will be the basis for how the jury will decide whether trump is guilty or not guilty. at that point, the jury will begin deliberations and it's anyone's guess how long they will need to come to a verdict. let's bring in my legal panel, katie phang, host of the katie phang show on msnbc. melissa murray, nyu law professor and msnbc legal analyst, harry lipman, former u.s. attorney who just left the courthouse, and joyce vance, former u.s. attorney and professor at the university of alabama school of law. harry, i
mcconney, that lay out the reimbursement to cohen for the hush money payment in the form of those $35,000 monthly checks. steinglass called these exhibits the smoking guns. and if you haven't noticed, the weisselberg notes are on a copy of an account statement from first republic bank, noting the $130,000 wire transfer from cohen's account to stormy daniels' lawyer, keith davidson. it's also worth noting that trump's defense left that unresolved in their closing arguments. i wonder why. come...
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jeffrey mcconney and deborah tarasoff helped reimburse mr. trump's former attorney, michael cohen, for the payments cohen made to adult film actress stormy daniels during the final days of the 2016 campaign. the former president also received another fine and a tough warning from the judge in this case, who again said if trump continues to violate the court's gag order, he could face jail time. ximena bustillo is covering the trial for npr, and joins us now. so nice to see you again. today we heard from these two former financial officers of the trump organization who were part of paying and accounting of these payments to michael cohen. what did we learn today from their testimony? ximena: the former and current employees of the trump organization detailed step-by-step the process for reviewing vouchers, invoices, and ultimately cutting checks at the trump organization. we looked at almost all, if not all of the 34 business records the prosecution is alleging that the trump organization and trump himself falsified in order to hide the actual
jeffrey mcconney and deborah tarasoff helped reimburse mr. trump's former attorney, michael cohen, for the payments cohen made to adult film actress stormy daniels during the final days of the 2016 campaign. the former president also received another fine and a tough warning from the judge in this case, who again said if trump continues to violate the court's gag order, he could face jail time. ximena bustillo is covering the trial for npr, and joins us now. so nice to see you again. today we...
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today, we heard testimony from jeffrey mcconney. walk the jury through documents outlining payments that trump made to cohen in 2017. but mcconney failed to provide the crucial link between the crime and trump's knowledge of it, or he was he was unable to say that trumps specifically ordered any falsification of documents. how big a problem is that to the prosecution, do you think? >> i think it's a problem, but the problem that can be surmounted because we heard out of the gate and david pecker how there was no communication that was done by email and that was it's corroborated by his assistant at the time wrote a graph, but more important than that, you have other pieces of foundation 11 that are going to be very helpful. you have an email that don and eric proof of this. you have conversation or communication that legal did not approve of these retainers or pardon me, these invoices. it was just sent over and it's really p so who is bending, benefiting from believed that michael cohen had the authority to approve of these payment
today, we heard testimony from jeffrey mcconney. walk the jury through documents outlining payments that trump made to cohen in 2017. but mcconney failed to provide the crucial link between the crime and trump's knowledge of it, or he was he was unable to say that trumps specifically ordered any falsification of documents. how big a problem is that to the prosecution, do you think? >> i think it's a problem, but the problem that can be surmounted because we heard out of the gate and david...
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so now, jack, in terms of testimony today jeffrey mcconney, the former trump or controller, said that it would be quote, putting it mildly to say the trump org was in a period of flux and chaos after trump became president. that the way the company did business had to change drastically because trump was less involved, right? and he was said he didn't even talk to trump once and that whole year, even as he's the one writing handwritten notes about these reimbursements to michael cohen. do you buy any of that i don't at all. >> aaron five think that you have you have an individual like voiceover. first who is in charge of the finance and accounting in this organization and he's been doing it a very specific way. 40 years or however many years and he's been they aren't going to suddenly just change the way they do accounting and throw it into chaos with the same man running the financing of the organization. >> it's just a big stretch for me to believe and quite frankly, i think there's always been the question, how much control do trump really? >> believer languish when he became presi
so now, jack, in terms of testimony today jeffrey mcconney, the former trump or controller, said that it would be quote, putting it mildly to say the trump org was in a period of flux and chaos after trump became president. that the way the company did business had to change drastically because trump was less involved, right? and he was said he didn't even talk to trump once and that whole year, even as he's the one writing handwritten notes about these reimbursements to michael cohen. do you...
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mcconney to the financial people in the trump order to come up with these numbers. and so i think the prosecution's pitch is going to be look at all the evidence as it all ties together. you don't have to rely on michael cohen. michael cohen is backed up by the other evidence is the first time in american history that a former president has been criminally charged and gone to trial. >> good. >> give me give me a sense of guests from your perspective. it's basically guess. how long do you think the jury will deliberate? so you never know what a jury is going to do. i've seen juries deliberate for less than an hour on more simple cases, and i've seen juries deliberate for two weeks i don't think the jury is going to come back with a verdict in the first day. i think they're going to be cognizant of the historic stakes that you mentioned. well, i think they're going to take their time. there's a lot of evidence i wouldn't expect a verdict until at least the second or third de of deliberations were guessing here. but i think they're going to understand that the worlds w
mcconney to the financial people in the trump order to come up with these numbers. and so i think the prosecution's pitch is going to be look at all the evidence as it all ties together. you don't have to rely on michael cohen. michael cohen is backed up by the other evidence is the first time in american history that a former president has been criminally charged and gone to trial. >> good. >> give me give me a sense of guests from your perspective. it's basically guess. how long...
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now, we also heard judg from jeffrey mcconney, a former trump organization controller. he detaile jd the payments madeh to cohen throughout 2017. that's michaelou cohen, trump'se onetime fixer. and his testimony didn't do much to link trump to anyo scheme surrounding stormy daniels. in facany schemet, mcconney tes that he didn't know exactly what the paymenttestifs to micha cohen were for. he said he rarely spoke directly to trump, and ifu di he did, he would not have discussed payments to cohen. would not hathen in the afternoon, wed from deborah tarasov, the financial supervisor. she was a sympathetic witness who also fielded questions about payments f to tarasov, or said she prepared checks for trump to sign. trumtrump, meanwhile, maintainsa all payments made to cohen were legitimatell t legal expenses. now, prosecutors say jesse, they will need two more weeks to present their case. then what we hear from e with their case and then closing arguments. trial resumes tomorrow wit. you and i would love to tell you who the next witness is going to be called by witness the
now, we also heard judg from jeffrey mcconney, a former trump organization controller. he detaile jd the payments madeh to cohen throughout 2017. that's michaelou cohen, trump'se onetime fixer. and his testimony didn't do much to link trump to anyo scheme surrounding stormy daniels. in facany schemet, mcconney tes that he didn't know exactly what the paymenttestifs to micha cohen were for. he said he rarely spoke directly to trump, and ifu di he did, he would not have discussed payments to...
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. >> there's two documents that are similar come from a combination of jeffrey mcconney and allen weisselberg via accounting people at the trump org, the person who links those notes, and that whole construct, which is the crime and the case, the accounting of the case, which is the crime, is michael cohen. if you take michael cohen's testimony out of this case, if you remove it there is no way to make this case the jury, if they do make the decision, they can't trust michael cohen they should not be able to return it a guilty verdict elie, thank you for that. >> you're doing a hell of a job. i appreciate you being here thanks, michael. >> appreciate it one of the biggest mysteries in this case right now, what exactly is the felony that trump is being charged with? >> i talked about exactly that issue on my sirius xm radio program this week, it earned me a name check by the former president even my spirit, tanisha a person four or five weeks into a trial or be told exactly? that they're being prosecuted for that hasn't happened. >> you know what happened it didn't happen for one very simple r
. >> there's two documents that are similar come from a combination of jeffrey mcconney and allen weisselberg via accounting people at the trump org, the person who links those notes, and that whole construct, which is the crime and the case, the accounting of the case, which is the crime, is michael cohen. if you take michael cohen's testimony out of this case, if you remove it there is no way to make this case the jury, if they do make the decision, they can't trust michael cohen they...
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. >> jeffrey mcconney, a former executive at the company, testified trump used his personal account to reimburse his former attorney, michael cohen. prosecutors alleged the payments were reimbursement for a hush money payment cohen made just before the 2016 election to adult film star stormy daniels to quiet her story of an alleged affair with trump, trump denies the affair. mcconney the reimbursements came in $35,000 monthly currents through 2017. >> it was actually 11 checks because one of the checks january and february, were combined prosecutors aim to prove trump's business records of the payments were falsified and the money was not for a retainer agreement as stated on cohen's invoices, but instead payback for the hush money to daniel's prosecutors as mcconney, if this was all happening above his head? >> yes. he replied, mcconney testify former trump organization chief financial officer alan yslow burge was the one who told him they had to reimburse cohen weisberg, who is currently serving five months in jail on perjury charges and trump's civil fraud case had sketched out the
. >> jeffrey mcconney, a former executive at the company, testified trump used his personal account to reimburse his former attorney, michael cohen. prosecutors alleged the payments were reimbursement for a hush money payment cohen made just before the 2016 election to adult film star stormy daniels to quiet her story of an alleged affair with trump, trump denies the affair. mcconney the reimbursements came in $35,000 monthly currents through 2017. >> it was actually 11 checks...
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and this came out in the defense, emil beauvais asking the controller, jeffrey mcconney question now, i think you said before january 2017, was it? period of flux and chaos at the trump organization, mcconney says, that's putting it mildly. bove says, and that's because president trump become president united states, right? because he says yes, sir. beauvais and the way of doing business and the company had to change, right? >> mcconney drastically. bove says, and there was a period where things were in flux because you're trying and to figure out how to do that, right? mcconney says, yes, sir. and for the first time in decades, president trump's main office was in washington, dc, hundreds of miles away, or mcconney says, yes, sir. so he was not new york as must as you had been previously, the sign personal cheques mcconney. i don't remember seeing him in new york at all. and anderson was wondering thing i want to point out that was all over the testimony today. it's a person it's alan yslow, birth play a huge role in this testimony today. this is just one exchange and we have a corre
and this came out in the defense, emil beauvais asking the controller, jeffrey mcconney question now, i think you said before january 2017, was it? period of flux and chaos at the trump organization, mcconney says, that's putting it mildly. bove says, and that's because president trump become president united states, right? because he says yes, sir. beauvais and the way of doing business and the company had to change, right? >> mcconney drastically. bove says, and there was a period where...
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, allen weisselberg, the junior bookkeeper, went through jeffrey mcconney than two allen weisselberg. allen weisselberg. without any question at all, has direct knowledge of what the president, former president knew when he actually knew it. and was directly involved with this entire process. the only other person who seems to be is somebody who's going to be testifying next week. >> and we're seeing just before it changed their emil beauvais was saying, there some procedural problems bringing him on as a witness because he was not on the prosecution's witness list. drug diverse. sean says he didn't think it was a possibility there. look, i'm wondering, does the defense want allen weisselberg on the stand i mean maybe if nobody wants him on the stand at this point because he's such an unpredictable potential witness? yeah. >> probably not really going to help them. right. so get out there and take the fifth. it was more helpful for them. the fact that he wasn't on the government's in this lesson every time i ask if he's going to be that this is not on that list, so he's not expected t
, allen weisselberg, the junior bookkeeper, went through jeffrey mcconney than two allen weisselberg. allen weisselberg. without any question at all, has direct knowledge of what the president, former president knew when he actually knew it. and was directly involved with this entire process. the only other person who seems to be is somebody who's going to be testifying next week. >> and we're seeing just before it changed their emil beauvais was saying, there some procedural problems...
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jeffrey mcconney authenticated the handwriting of allen weisselberg. go ahead, defense, bring a convicted perjury allen weisselberg and donald trump and explain what he meant. if you fail to bring anybody to review the evidence, it stays as the evidence. >> the other part that was as black-and-white as the motive is clearly established. he was the 16th or 17th witness? not one person has told a different story other than the compressed period between the drop of access hollywood and election day is the pressure cooker that the candidate and the campaign feel to pay the $130,000. we have this longer time line and from david pecker in the catch and kill which included the door manic karen mcdougal. the ark was even longer, 2011, he was talking to the boss and the first thing the boss says is a lot of women will come out of the woodwork. cohen was a fixer, but specifically infidelity and women who came out and claimed infidelity. >> and he was integrated into the campaign and the sword of team trump on that point. he was never a rogue actor -- accusations
jeffrey mcconney authenticated the handwriting of allen weisselberg. go ahead, defense, bring a convicted perjury allen weisselberg and donald trump and explain what he meant. if you fail to bring anybody to review the evidence, it stays as the evidence. >> the other part that was as black-and-white as the motive is clearly established. he was the 16th or 17th witness? not one person has told a different story other than the compressed period between the drop of access hollywood and...
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. >> and to have jeffrey mcconney testifying he got fired for a day or two because he didn't haggle down a bill. here's a great point, this is more than two times the price. >> when michael cohen says about trump that he tried to re- renegotiate this and you are getting the final agreement is going to pay, did you try to renegotiate? one word answer, no. >> it is because allen weisselberg has had the pre- meeting. you are not going to like this number but here's why it has to be this number. >> michael cohen is a witness for the prosecution in this criminal case against former president donald trump. today, what they started is what's called there direct examination. means prosecutors firing questions at their own witness. that will continue into tomorrow, if not beyond. but, then the cross-examination of michael cohen will begin. that is when trump's defense lawyers will get to question michael cohen. some legal observers suggesting today that that expected cross- examination of michael cohen, which is now looming, that effectively might be the entirety of trump's defense. the defense i
. >> and to have jeffrey mcconney testifying he got fired for a day or two because he didn't haggle down a bill. here's a great point, this is more than two times the price. >> when michael cohen says about trump that he tried to re- renegotiate this and you are getting the final agreement is going to pay, did you try to renegotiate? one word answer, no. >> it is because allen weisselberg has had the pre- meeting. you are not going to like this number but here's why it has to...
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the second exhibit, a page of handwritten notes from trump's former corporate controller jeffrey mcconney. mcconney testified he wrote them during a meeting between himself and weisselberg about the reimbursement payments. steinglass also tried to rebut the defense claim that the prosecution's case hung solely on cohen's testimony. joining us now nbc news legal analyst and former federal prosecutor andrew weissmann. andrew, good morning. so we are just about three hours away from court, an hour or so of jury instructions from the judge to the jury and then it goes to the jury for how long, we don't know. we can't even speculate. there is no way of knowing how 1 people may or may not come to agreement on the case but what did you hear yesterday in terms of these summaries, these closing arguments that may compel the jury one way or another? >> well, i thought when we first talk about the defense summation that went first, i thought one of the notable things was what the defense did not talk about. it was pretty striking to me, the two smoking gun documents, exhibits 35 and 36, the handwrit
the second exhibit, a page of handwritten notes from trump's former corporate controller jeffrey mcconney. mcconney testified he wrote them during a meeting between himself and weisselberg about the reimbursement payments. steinglass also tried to rebut the defense claim that the prosecution's case hung solely on cohen's testimony. joining us now nbc news legal analyst and former federal prosecutor andrew weissmann. andrew, good morning. so we are just about three hours away from court, an hour...
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that came in testimony from former trump organization controller jeffrey mcconney and current employee deborah tarasov an accounts payable supervisor and a 24-year veteran of the company. they explained the mechanics of reimbursing former trump attorney and fixer michael cohen for the $130,000 paid to adult film actress stormy dan youls to keep her quiet an alleged affair with donald trump. trump denies the allegations. they describe how the large sums that won't to cohen for the alleged purposes of hush-money payments came directly from donald trump's bank account and for the first time during the trial a check from the alleged scheme was shown in court. let's bring in former litigator msnbc msnbc legal correspondent lisa linney. you got a front row seat yesterday inside the courtroom. not as splashily when you hear about accounts payable, but important. >> totally important. as understated as what you said, was juan merchan telling donald trump it appears the $1,000 fines are not working as a deterrent. yesterday was an incredibly important day in court and not at all a sensational o
that came in testimony from former trump organization controller jeffrey mcconney and current employee deborah tarasov an accounts payable supervisor and a 24-year veteran of the company. they explained the mechanics of reimbursing former trump attorney and fixer michael cohen for the $130,000 paid to adult film actress stormy dan youls to keep her quiet an alleged affair with donald trump. trump denies the allegations. they describe how the large sums that won't to cohen for the alleged...
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anyway, we heard earlier the jury heard earlier from jeffrey mcconney honey in the accounting department, and now rebecca nokia and what she is doing walked the jury through the process of getting these checks, cut& issued. so just to set the scene here, michael cohen pays off stormy daniels and then in the months that follow, michael cohen is reimbursed through a series of checks issued by the trump organization and ms i'm an okay. you is talking about how she was based here in new york at the trump tower. she would fedex the checks down to dc at this point, donald trump's the president. he's in the white house, and then they would get fedex back to her sometimes penitent 15 at a time, signed with that distinctive signature by donald trump's. so she's so it's showing the jury the exact chain of custody exactly how the he's reimbursements happened. >> all right. elie, thank you for taking us through all of that. court is set to resume here in a matter of minutes while more of our coverage ahead from here in washington and also from new york with jake tapper, who has spent this day in tha
anyway, we heard earlier the jury heard earlier from jeffrey mcconney honey in the accounting department, and now rebecca nokia and what she is doing walked the jury through the process of getting these checks, cut& issued. so just to set the scene here, michael cohen pays off stormy daniels and then in the months that follow, michael cohen is reimbursed through a series of checks issued by the trump organization and ms i'm an okay. you is talking about how she was based here in new york at...
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mcconney, who testified about there being a clear distinction between a pre-trump white house trump organization and how things were dealt with. in a post inauguration trump world. and that distinction he painted when we use word chaos, he was chaotic and eric and don junior now overseeing things in new york. meanwhile, there was a lot of distance between trump and what he was signing& so that was a moment for them to build on. if you're the defense and suggests okay. well, now that you're now part at the white house, your control from ms otherwise, mom and pop more pop and mom has gotten very differently. and so perhaps, you now that was not my line, but now you have this idea of thinking about the way in which there would have been more distance. remember it already, don't have direct threat that says that trump was the one to know xyz yet. and now they have met the white house getting checks, sent. so my understanding from a source, i spoke to about witnesses is this is to establish chain of custody. >> what happened to the checks. and i'm told that. so now we have the person who
mcconney, who testified about there being a clear distinction between a pre-trump white house trump organization and how things were dealt with. in a post inauguration trump world. and that distinction he painted when we use word chaos, he was chaotic and eric and don junior now overseeing things in new york. meanwhile, there was a lot of distance between trump and what he was signing& so that was a moment for them to build on. if you're the defense and suggests okay. well, now that you're...
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and at what those documents show is that allen weisselberg in jeffrey mcconney the accountants within the trump org with consulting of michael cohen, sort of came up with how are we going to repay michael cohen for $130,000? he paid stormy daniels. they arrive at this $420,000 figure. the defense response to that is one, trump didn't know anything about this. that's not trumps handwriting on there. there's no evidence trump do anything about this, and to this whole way, they got to 420 was just an artifice, was just a way to train it's for money to michael cohen, who by the way, had his hand in the cookie jar and help themselves. so that's what they're trying to take the edge off now. >> so he's saying that's what he wants you to believe. blanche said that the idea that cohen had a conversation with trump in the oval office about the checks and the money six days later, cohen emails mcconney asking him how much the money payment would be for blanche says so so tim parlatore, i suppose that what todd blanche is trying to do here is say, if he didn't even know how much the money is goin
and at what those documents show is that allen weisselberg in jeffrey mcconney the accountants within the trump org with consulting of michael cohen, sort of came up with how are we going to repay michael cohen for $130,000? he paid stormy daniels. they arrive at this $420,000 figure. the defense response to that is one, trump didn't know anything about this. that's not trumps handwriting on there. there's no evidence trump do anything about this, and to this whole way, they got to 420 was just...