they were focused on the iedc while our children was failing in school. that's unacceptable. >> anybody else weigh in on education. ms. crouch. >> i don't think that we should take federal money contraire toy who we are as hoosiers. as government i'll make sure my department of education and superintendent of public instruction does not take that kind of money that has the strings attached that puts us in a direction different from our values and what we believe? >> anybody else want to weigh in in fairness. the next question for ms. crouch. as you pointed out you've served in the executive and legislative branches and certainly held offices at the county level as well and you've headed several agencies in your role as lt. governor. at the same time you said there's room to make government more' fisht efficient. can you name one agency, you would eliminate or down size. >> just about all of them. elimination or downsizing? >> both. one of the things we want to do-- >> won't be governor over much if you do all of them. >> want to totally modernize state go