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>> hope hicks asked whether that would be out of character for michael, meaning, hicks saying, michael felt like it was his job to protect him. that would be out of character for michael, she said. i don't know michael to be an especially charitable person. >> this is exactly what you want. >> nobody has taken more arrows than michael cohen so far. >> for a witness like hope hicks who doesn't come across as someone who has an ax to grind or is particularly hostile, she's not keith davidson on the stand where there's this contentious back and forth, at least not so far. that type of testimony doesn't help michael cohen who's already a witness who's coming in to this case under a lot of scrutiny. so this is what, if you're donald trump's defense team, you like to hear, something you can work with on cross, and later on discrediting the theory that's going to be advanced by the prosecution, once we get to summation and closing arguments. >> another really informative day on the stand, and one in which all of us are learning what it is to construct a case. vaughn hillyard, robert gibbs, st
>> hope hicks asked whether that would be out of character for michael, meaning, hicks saying, michael felt like it was his job to protect him. that would be out of character for michael, she said. i don't know michael to be an especially charitable person. >> this is exactly what you want. >> nobody has taken more arrows than michael cohen so far. >> for a witness like hope hicks who doesn't come across as someone who has an ax to grind or is particularly hostile, she's...
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but not hope hicks, not hope hicks. if you didn't quit then, when do you quit? hope hicks' answer was never. hope hicks was there in washington on the white house payroll on january 6th, making no attempt at all to get donald trump to do the right thing during the attack on the capitol, to stop that attack. what did she do after january 6th? nothing. she eventually did an interview with the january 6th committee where she said as little as she possibly could and offered no significant help to the committee, very little they could even use in their public revelation of their evidence. compare that to cassidy hutchinson. they both took the same oath of office as white house employees to support and defend the constitution of the united states against all enemies, foreign and domestic. hope hicks, who had direct access to donald trump whenever she wanted it, didn't say a word to donald trump on january 6th, didn't even try to. while cassidy hutchinson was desperately trying to get her boss mark meadows, the white house chief of staff, to convince donald trump to st
but not hope hicks, not hope hicks. if you didn't quit then, when do you quit? hope hicks' answer was never. hope hicks was there in washington on the white house payroll on january 6th, making no attempt at all to get donald trump to do the right thing during the attack on the capitol, to stop that attack. what did she do after january 6th? nothing. she eventually did an interview with the january 6th committee where she said as little as she possibly could and offered no significant help to...
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few people had as much access as hope hicks did. everybody that works there in some sense reports to mr. trump, that mr. trump was the one responsible. and then when it came to politics to the white house, she said, we were all just following his lead. what has she brought to the prosecution case so far? >> she is the proverbial fly on the wall, is she not, chris? she heard it all. she saw it all. and most importantly from what you just said to the viewers, she directly brings donald trump's involvement and knowledge into it because if you're donald trump, maybe one of your defense theories is michael cohen did it on his own. he went rogue. he decided that he thought that he could help his boss, donald trump, by making these payments and by trying to help donald trump and/or the trump campaign. but when you hear from somebody like hope hicks who was literally attached to donald trump prior to the administration, during the campaign, one of the closest people to donald trump, you hear that donald trump was actually having his hands o
few people had as much access as hope hicks did. everybody that works there in some sense reports to mr. trump, that mr. trump was the one responsible. and then when it came to politics to the white house, she said, we were all just following his lead. what has she brought to the prosecution case so far? >> she is the proverbial fly on the wall, is she not, chris? she heard it all. she saw it all. and most importantly from what you just said to the viewers, she directly brings donald...
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hope hicks, rhona graff, the other witness who testified, it is surprising that hope hicks with all of her experience is getting emotional on the stand, but it really shows that she is still -- i don't want to say loyal because i don't want to suggest that would color her testimony but that this entire experience is difficult for her because she acknowledges, apparently, that the trump family gave her plenty of opportunities. she has said i'm nervous. she clearly doesn't want to be here. this this has got to be difficult for her. she has come across as a credible witness. the first, i would say, combination of a high profile, marquee name witness, but highly credible. you haven't had that with the other witnesses so far in this case. there is some for the defense in her testimony. for example, that she can't remember exactly if donald trump told her about his specific knowledge of payoffs and other things, so there is wiggle room for the defense. i'm interested to see how they go after her on cross-examination. i expect them to be polite, explore what she doesn't know, what trump wasn'
hope hicks, rhona graff, the other witness who testified, it is surprising that hope hicks with all of her experience is getting emotional on the stand, but it really shows that she is still -- i don't want to say loyal because i don't want to suggest that would color her testimony but that this entire experience is difficult for her because she acknowledges, apparently, that the trump family gave her plenty of opportunities. she has said i'm nervous. she clearly doesn't want to be here. this...
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that includes hope hicks. that includes keith shiller and what he knew. >> david, let's talk about the importance of this witness. as a former prosecutor, how you handle this kind of a witness. how important this is to the case. >> you can dell how important it is by the time at which they have chosen to call her. they have chosen to call her on a friday late morning when she's going to bleed into the afternoon. she's likely the last person on the witness stand. the jury will go home talking about her over the weekend. that's the first thing that stands out. the next thing is, she's my kind of witness. she's the first person i have seen in this trial that i would want to put on the stand. some of the people you had to. my kind of witness gets there to say, i have a job, i have other places to be, i don't want to be here. i'm nervous about being here. i'm only here because i was subpoenaed. i was subpoenaed to tell the truth and that's exactly what i'm going to do. the other panelists have pointed out the real
that includes hope hicks. that includes keith shiller and what he knew. >> david, let's talk about the importance of this witness. as a former prosecutor, how you handle this kind of a witness. how important this is to the case. >> you can dell how important it is by the time at which they have chosen to call her. they have chosen to call her on a friday late morning when she's going to bleed into the afternoon. she's likely the last person on the witness stand. the jury will go...
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hicks' testimony? >> i think your description of her testimony being a body blow is totally accurate. this i think took a sledge hammer to a major defense. prior to her testimony, a big gap in the da's arsenal was did donald trump know about the payments to stormy daniels as hush money payment ins the da had conceded he did not sign the actual agreement between, that michael cohen signed and that stormy daniels and her lawyer signed but there was a blank with respect to this signature block for the president. and michael cohen said with respect to the payments, he said to mr. davidson, maybe i need to have my own. and respect donald trump will not pay in advance. so there was a lot of concern certainly, it is like how are they going to link donald trump to the actual hush money payments with respect to stormy daniels? david pecker has already given a link with respect to karen mcdougal and the case is really about the stormy daniels payments and hope hicks, a reluctant witness who tearfully said donald
hicks' testimony? >> i think your description of her testimony being a body blow is totally accurate. this i think took a sledge hammer to a major defense. prior to her testimony, a big gap in the da's arsenal was did donald trump know about the payments to stormy daniels as hush money payment ins the da had conceded he did not sign the actual agreement between, that michael cohen signed and that stormy daniels and her lawyer signed but there was a blank with respect to this signature...
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sitting 10 feet from him, hicks said, i'm really nervous. >> i was very interested in what took place today. >> reporter: hicks detailed some of the tenses to moments of the 2016 campaign and broke down in tears at one point. she described the chaos inside the campaign following the revelation of the "access hollywood" video, weeks before the election, when trump spoke in vulgar terms about groping women. >> and when you are a star, they let you do it. >> reporter: hicks testified she was very concerned about what it meant for his election chances. >> hope hicks serves as a guide to the jurors, to all of the operations surrounding donald trump. she knows each person, where they sat, what they did, and she is the person who therefore connects all of the dots. >> reporter: in 2018, wants us once trump was president, hicks said he spoke with her about michael cohen making payments to stormy daniels to protect him from a false allegation, which he said cohen did out of the kindness of his own heart. hicks testified that would have been out of character for cohen, and trump has denied any
sitting 10 feet from him, hicks said, i'm really nervous. >> i was very interested in what took place today. >> reporter: hicks detailed some of the tenses to moments of the 2016 campaign and broke down in tears at one point. she described the chaos inside the campaign following the revelation of the "access hollywood" video, weeks before the election, when trump spoke in vulgar terms about groping women. >> and when you are a star, they let you do it. >>...
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only on verizon >>> speaking of hope, hope hicks is here. where is hope hicks? where is hope hicks? the great hope hicks. you know, she tested positive, but she's okay. where's hope? >> hi. we can share a microphone now. thank you all so much. thank you, president trump. i have stage fright. >> she's great. >>> hi again, everyone. it's 5:00 in new york. that wasn't today. beloved by the ex president, hope hicks was someone we heard a lot about during the trump presidency, but almost never heard from. that was very rare to hear her voice and see her behind the podium, until today. hicks was the star blockbuster witness in day 11 of donald trump's criminal election interference hush money trial. she was in donald trump's inner most circle for many years. first working for him at the trump observation and then as his press secretary for the campaign. hicks said, quote, we were all just following his lead, referring to the ex president. she said she doesn't recall being in an august 2015 meeting with david pecker when the catch and kill scheme was launched, but it is possible she was th
only on verizon >>> speaking of hope, hope hicks is here. where is hope hicks? where is hope hicks? the great hope hicks. you know, she tested positive, but she's okay. where's hope? >> hi. we can share a microphone now. thank you all so much. thank you, president trump. i have stage fright. >> she's great. >>> hi again, everyone. it's 5:00 in new york. that wasn't today. beloved by the ex president, hope hicks was someone we heard a lot about during the trump...
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hope hicks is not one of those people. hope hicks is somebody who has not done a public interview, she left the white house in 2018, and after meeting with congressional investigators who were investigating potential russia links to the trump campaign. and they did does her as part of the testimony about the stormy daniels and karen mcdougal arrangements and it was acknowledged by hope hicks during that testimony that she would sometimes tell white lies in short order after it was made clear she had talked to congressional investigators, she left the white house, she did, as carol outlined, returned in late 2020 to join the white house again here. she is somebody who she hasn't talked to trump since the summer of 2022, she is somebody, though, who has not ever, you know, received attacks from donald trump on the social media account or anything. somebody who is a close confidante. in 2015, 2016, i was on the campaign trail and hope hicks with corey lewandowski and keith schiller was part of a small group of individuals who
hope hicks is not one of those people. hope hicks is somebody who has not done a public interview, she left the white house in 2018, and after meeting with congressional investigators who were investigating potential russia links to the trump campaign. and they did does her as part of the testimony about the stormy daniels and karen mcdougal arrangements and it was acknowledged by hope hicks during that testimony that she would sometimes tell white lies in short order after it was made clear...
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take us through hicks. his testimony and what broader to tears at one point well, we'll hope hicks was on the stand for about three hours today and then entire time, she avoided looking over in donald trump's direction, but she told the jury how donald trump reacted when the access hollywood tape became public also, how he'd reacted when the hush money deals that are at the center of this case also became public for emotional breaking point came moments after she told the jury that donald trump said to her that it would have been bad if those stories had surface before the election hope hicks, once one of trump's closest aides took the stand friday, in emotional day of testimony at one point, even tearing up on day 11 of trump's criminal trial so i'm not allowed to comment on any of that. >> as you know, i'm under a gag. i was very interested in what took place today. >> hicks, who was trump's campaign spokesperson in 2016, and later served as white house communications director, looked visibly uncomfortabl
take us through hicks. his testimony and what broader to tears at one point well, we'll hope hicks was on the stand for about three hours today and then entire time, she avoided looking over in donald trump's direction, but she told the jury how donald trump reacted when the access hollywood tape became public also, how he'd reacted when the hush money deals that are at the center of this case also became public for emotional breaking point came moments after she told the jury that donald trump...
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the great hope hicks. >> reporter: and today on the witness stand, hope hicks taking the jury back to the final weeks of the 2016 campaign and the release of the explosive "access hollywood" tape. trump bragging about groping women. >> when you're a star they let you do it. you can do anything. >> reporter: hicks testified the tape left her “a little stunned.” she said she knew immediately it would be “a massive story,” a “damaging development” to the campaign and “a crisis.” the jury saw a video trump recorded, trying to contain the damage. >> i said it, i was wrong, and i apologize. >> reporter: prosecutors say the damage control didn't end there. that trump quickly directed a $130,000 hush payment to former porn star ,stormy daniels, so voters wouldn't hear about their alleged affair. michael cohen, trump's fixer at the time, wired the money and was later reimbursed by trump who prosecutors charge illegally falsified business records to make it look like an ordinary legal expense. today, hicks testified trump told her cohen paid daniels on his own “out of the kind
the great hope hicks. >> reporter: and today on the witness stand, hope hicks taking the jury back to the final weeks of the 2016 campaign and the release of the explosive "access hollywood" tape. trump bragging about groping women. >> when you're a star they let you do it. you can do anything. >> reporter: hicks testified the tape left her “a little stunned.” she said she knew immediately it would be “a massive story,” a “damaging development” to the...
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hicks testimony? >> i think your description of her testimony being a body blow is totally accurate. this, i think, took a sledge hammer to a major defense. prior to her testimony a big gap in the da's arsenal was did donald trump know about the payments to stormy daniels as hush money payments? the da had conceded he did not sign the actual agreement between -- that michael cohen and stormy daniels and her lawyer signed but there was a blank for this signature block for the president. also michael cohen had said with respect to the president, maybe i'm just going to have to pay on my own. donald trump is not going to pay in advance. so there was a lot of concern of certainly how are they going to link donald trump to the actual hush money payments with respect to stormy daniels. david pecker had given a link with respect to karen mcdougall and the door man, but the case is really about the stormy daniels payments. hope hicks, a reluctant witness, who tearfully said, this is from within the trump camp
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hicks said miss mcdougal's claim of an affair with mr. trump was totally untrue. [ laughter ] in retrospect, what do you make of that-- maybe she didn't realize she was lying, because hope hicks was clearly not that familiar with what happened here. >> yeah, i don't know that hope you about it. she was obviously speaking for the campaign. i believe that she didn't know about it. i don't 100% no, but she says she did not. donald trump as we now know did have correspondence with david pecker and michael cohen about paying off karen mcdougal over the summer before she was paid in august. so, you know, clearly she was misled, and you know, i suspected that probably was not true, that donald trump did not know about it, but that was the campaign's response, and they denied it. they also denied he had any relationship with stormy daniels. >> the prosecution seems repeatedly trying to make this point the campaign was very concerned about these allegations regardless of whether they were true or not, and this panic it caused internally helps expl
hicks said miss mcdougal's claim of an affair with mr. trump was totally untrue. [ laughter ] in retrospect, what do you make of that-- maybe she didn't realize she was lying, because hope hicks was clearly not that familiar with what happened here. >> yeah, i don't know that hope you about it. she was obviously speaking for the campaign. i believe that she didn't know about it. i don't 100% no, but she says she did not. donald trump as we now know did have correspondence with david...
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hicks today admitting she was nervous. at one point becoming emotional, tearing up and needing a break. hicks telling prosecutors, the release of the "access hollywood" tape weeks before the 2016 election was a crisis. "i was concerned, she said. "everyone was just absorbing the shock of it," hicks testified, adding "its impact on women voters was a major concern." prosecutors say the release of the tape helped propel the hush money scheme. >> hi. >> reporter: but mr. trump today arguing none of it is related to the charges he's facing, that he allegedly disguised reimbursements to michael cohen for hush money payments to stormy daniels as legal expenses in his company's internal books. mr. trump, who's pleaded not guilty, slamming a corrupt ancient and highly political attack that he says has nothing to do with this fake case. >> i'm not allowed to comment on any of that. as you know, i'm under a gag order. i was very interested in what took place today. >> reporter: on cross-examination, hicks was asked about a "wall str
hicks today admitting she was nervous. at one point becoming emotional, tearing up and needing a break. hicks telling prosecutors, the release of the "access hollywood" tape weeks before the 2016 election was a crisis. "i was concerned, she said. "everyone was just absorbing the shock of it," hicks testified, adding "its impact on women voters was a major concern." prosecutors say the release of the tape helped propel the hush money scheme. >> hi....
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hope hicks was part of all of that. she was there really running point and something you said earlier, i think is really important. donald trump now he does text, but he didn't text before, didn't use email you got a call from hope hicks at that time period, you thought donald trump might be calling you because he was by her side and that's when you'd say, okay, this might be donald trump. i need to get on the phone. yeah. i mean hi, mr. trump for you hope picks says she doesn't specifically know what cohen did but that he was involved in some licensed deals for hotel projects and some of the entertainment pieces. jamie. so it's very interesting that she doesn't specifically no, i would assume the prosecutors would like her to describe what the relationship was like how cohen interacted with to trump to give some context to that. so this is explaining how she began working for trump's presidential campaign in 2015 well, mr. trump, one day said, we're going to iowa and i didn't really know what i mean. that's actually cl
hope hicks was part of all of that. she was there really running point and something you said earlier, i think is really important. donald trump now he does text, but he didn't text before, didn't use email you got a call from hope hicks at that time period, you thought donald trump might be calling you because he was by her side and that's when you'd say, okay, this might be donald trump. i need to get on the phone. yeah. i mean hi, mr. trump for you hope picks says she doesn't specifically...
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hick's testimony? >> reporter: i think your description of her testimony being a body blow is totally accurate. this, i think, took a sledge hammer to a major defense. prior to her testimony a big gap in the da's arsenal was did donald trump know about the payments to stormy daniels as hush money payments. the da had conceded he did not sign the agreement between michael cohen signed and stormy daniels and her lawyer signed but a blank with respect to this signature block for the president. also, michael cohen said with respect to the payments he said to davidson maybe i will have to pay out on my own. trump was not going to pay in advance. a lot of concern. certainly. how are they going to link to donald trump to the actual hush money payments with respect to stormy daniels. david pecker said with respect to the doorman. the case is really about the stormy daniels payments and hope hicks a reluctant witness who said you are within the trump campaign that donald trump told her that he was aware that mi
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hope hicks is on the stand. let's bring in criminal defense attorney mark eiglarsh, some of the updates we are getting on the courtroom right now kerri kupec upon our highlighting it's important for the defense's case we heard in exchange that hicks testified she was concerned how it would affect milahnie perry did she also said that he probably ask how it was playing generally but the reason the wife aspect matters is because it undercuts the state case that trump only paid off stormy daniels because of the campaign. how important of an update is it for you, mark, that she is obviously being able to demonstrate in her testimony the former president was concerned about the impact this would have on his wife, melania? >> colossal. in other words i was going to argue if i'm defending him one of the many possibilities why he was concerned would be the protection of his marriage or his brand. you can argue that all day long but to have a witness to testify and say it in front of the journey creates reasonable do dou
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hope hicks did not look at trump. she did not look in his direction as she passed him to the wind in this box, her right hand was actually cleansed into a fist, is what we're learning from observers. there are observers there in the courtroom. her left hand holding her purse, and trump looked up at hicks as she stepped into the witness box, so uncomfortable for i mean, she's been a close person to the trump family, not only donald trump for years and years, even though they haven't been close lately. and imagine how difficult this is. she's under subpoena. she has her own attorney. it's not being paid for by donald trump's, so she comes in as an independent witness. there and i think it's very difficult for her because she's testifying in some capacity, january around trump and his issues for a very long time. i think the molar team investigated, had interviewed her at least three times there have been several leg testimony before congress, right. so sitting in some position opposite from trump is not unusual for her,
hope hicks did not look at trump. she did not look in his direction as she passed him to the wind in this box, her right hand was actually cleansed into a fist, is what we're learning from observers. there are observers there in the courtroom. her left hand holding her purse, and trump looked up at hicks as she stepped into the witness box, so uncomfortable for i mean, she's been a close person to the trump family, not only donald trump for years and years, even though they haven't been close...
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hicks said yes. he asked what the response to the "wall street journal" article was, and she testified trump saw it as an issue for the campaign, telling colangelo, quote, trump was concerned about the story. he was concerned how it would be viewed by his wife and he wanted me to make sure newspapers weren't delivered to their residence that morning. everything we talked about was whether or not there was an impact on the campaign. trump wanted to know how is it playing, and to her, that meant how is it playing with voters. she also explained that jared kushner, who was very close to rupert murdoch and working on the campaign, tried to kill the story. it didn't work. once elected, it continued to be a source of concern for the then-president and hicks who was now the director of strategic communication for his administration. the prosecution was able to get her to confirm trump admitted to her while they were in the oval office that michael cohen did a good thing for the campaign by paying stormy dan
hicks said yes. he asked what the response to the "wall street journal" article was, and she testified trump saw it as an issue for the campaign, telling colangelo, quote, trump was concerned about the story. he was concerned how it would be viewed by his wife and he wanted me to make sure newspapers weren't delivered to their residence that morning. everything we talked about was whether or not there was an impact on the campaign. trump wanted to know how is it playing, and to her,...
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they're not that far apart in age, frankly ivanka and hope hicks, although hope hicks is younger, and i couldn't help but think of bout the fact that she was being brought in and part as a kind of character witness in the way that rhona had benton, the right-hand woman of donald trump. >> they both talked about him and being having their trust and respect. >> they both talked about their relationship, the excitement and what she called chaos, but a good pass at times. >> but then and there was this moment fell when she described the access hollywood tape and the fallout as a crisis. >> it she wasn't mincing words. >> she wasn't trying to hedge and suggest i mean, wasn't a thing. i mean, i guess it was she knew that it was they talked through the republican response what was happening at that time. he was leaning in. i understand as well on those issues but i was looking to the jury. >> i wanted to see how the jury was receiving her because in the end, that's all that matters for the prosecution. and i noticed that when they were taking notes and her testimony first before she was cryi
they're not that far apart in age, frankly ivanka and hope hicks, although hope hicks is younger, and i couldn't help but think of bout the fact that she was being brought in and part as a kind of character witness in the way that rhona had benton, the right-hand woman of donald trump. >> they both talked about him and being having their trust and respect. >> they both talked about their relationship, the excitement and what she called chaos, but a good pass at times. >> but...
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. >> hope hicks is a tremendously talented person. she's a little shy but that's okay. >> the people call hope hicks to the witness stand. >> donald trump made sure he was easy talking to todd blanche and hope hicks very deliberately avoided any regard , any look at him. >> tonight, gripping testimony from a trump insider on the trump campaign's attempt to catch and kill. >> suddenly, she just started crying. it felt like a confession she had come forward and said this. >> what the jury heard about campaign panic over access hollywood. >> i said it, i was wrong and i apologize. >> then new reporting on how to project a second trump term and how to predict trump's second pick for vp. >> kristi noem is a little too based, shooting the puppy. >> your ghostwriter must really not like you if they include that one. that was rough. >> all in starts right now. >>> good evening from new york, and chris hayes. today, we heard the most colorful, explosive testimony yet in the trial of donald trump. it came from one of the prosecution's star witn
. >> hope hicks is a tremendously talented person. she's a little shy but that's okay. >> the people call hope hicks to the witness stand. >> donald trump made sure he was easy talking to todd blanche and hope hicks very deliberately avoided any regard , any look at him. >> tonight, gripping testimony from a trump insider on the trump campaign's attempt to catch and kill. >> suddenly, she just started crying. it felt like a confession she had come forward and said...
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hope hicks testified to this. "there was consensus among us all that the tape was damaging and that this would be a crisis. when it came to the stories of karen mcdougal mcdougall and stormy daniels, hope hicks detailed how she became to know about the stories and how she worked with the ex-president and michael cohen to craft denials of trump's involvement with either of those women. before hope hicks took the stand today, judge juan merchan took time to debunk this information that trump spouted outside the courthouse just yesterday. in his usual, typical daily railing against the gag order placed on him, donald trump lied and said that the gag th order prevents him from testifying in his own defense during the trial. it is claimed that judge juan merchan quickly shot down the ha claim this morning. according to sources in the courtroom, the judge said, "it has come to my attention that there might be a misunderstanding. i want to stress to thmr. trump that he have the absolute right to testify up that is what y
hope hicks testified to this. "there was consensus among us all that the tape was damaging and that this would be a crisis. when it came to the stories of karen mcdougal mcdougall and stormy daniels, hope hicks detailed how she became to know about the stories and how she worked with the ex-president and michael cohen to craft denials of trump's involvement with either of those women. before hope hicks took the stand today, judge juan merchan took time to debunk this information that trump...
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well hope hicks. he was asked about that on the stand today and she talked about paul ryan had an event in wisconsin that trump was supposed to go to and then she said it was sort of a the prosecution said that he he turned trump down. she said, actually it's more nuance and she went on to explain that paul ryan kind of reorganized it so that to de-emphasize trump and maybe paul ryan wouldn't be there and then she says, trump decided not to go because he was insulted, i guess. >> and i believe reince priebus gotten to try to facilitate that so it wouldn't look like a clean break at the time, but that's that's accurate. >> i mean, this was a moment where steve benen loves to tell the story, but they all sat around a conference table. the people that she was describing for their as they were in the middle of the debate prep, but they fair and hold from the post, emailed them to say, hey, we've got this really embarrassing audio tape of trump. and they kinda went around the room and trump asked if they t
well hope hicks. he was asked about that on the stand today and she talked about paul ryan had an event in wisconsin that trump was supposed to go to and then she said it was sort of a the prosecution said that he he turned trump down. she said, actually it's more nuance and she went on to explain that paul ryan kind of reorganized it so that to de-emphasize trump and maybe paul ryan wouldn't be there and then she says, trump decided not to go because he was insulted, i guess. >> and i...
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his former communications director hope hicks was on the stand. let's go live outside the courthouse. fox news legal editor carrier bond. i'm wondering what happened the last few minutes. it is progeria piece in. would have been the last 2 minutes? what was the highlight of the day? >> interesting last 30 minutes. hope hicks the former communications director for the white house and press secretary for trump campaign broke down in tears before she was about to be cross-examined. it seemed it was related to the direct examination from the state. she was very close with the trump family so it's possible it became too too much and she got emotional. we had to take a break. we just resumed and the defence began cross-examining her. there were a couple of interesting points that came out during her testimony. the first 1 being that the former presidents was very concerned about melania's opinion and what it would be about stormy daniels story. at custom great stress. she said personal stress when the story was percolating. she said that he wanted his f
his former communications director hope hicks was on the stand. let's go live outside the courthouse. fox news legal editor carrier bond. i'm wondering what happened the last few minutes. it is progeria piece in. would have been the last 2 minutes? what was the highlight of the day? >> interesting last 30 minutes. hope hicks the former communications director for the white house and press secretary for trump campaign broke down in tears before she was about to be cross-examined. it seemed...
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when, when hicks i hicks, obviously his inner circle as it gets and i was telling that anecdote from trump tower that i recall stephanie as she clearly remains loyal to him, as you point out, having known him for so long today, though she did avoid eye contact for most of her testimony, trump often had a scowl on his face as he was watching her speak passing notes with his attorneys as he's done throughout this trial closing his eyes, when she testified about the access hollywood tape, what do you think is going on here when you hear those descriptions of how he reacted today? >> i could think was that again, she was in such the inner circle, especially there in the very beginning, and she was privy to so many conversations and so many people and all i could think was that he was wondering what else she could say. i think it was very clear that she didn't want to say too much. he only answered the questions that were asked of her and she didn't it really expand on them. but to me, i think he was a little bit nervous in an anecdotal used for myself, you know, everybody knows i was pre
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in my opinion, i don't think hope hicks deserves any somebody. what about the thousands of americans damaged by the trump administration and the fact that she went back to try to help him get another run in 2020 is galling to me. you had to show up but i will give her some small modicum of credit that it seems to me she told the truth. >> that i think was really crucial. the reaction from inside the courtroom at least once one of believability. here is someone who, as you say, went back in to trump world and she didn't have to. clearly has some sort of loyalty to trump in a way because she was complimented the of trump at the start of her testimony. for her then to make the incriminating comments that she did, the incriminating testimony speaks to her credibility. >> it was suggested that everything she has achieved today, she started working right out of college. she went to southern methodist, she comes back, she starts working for the trump organization. she owes her career, such as it is, she has a consulting firm now. there is a level of loy
in my opinion, i don't think hope hicks deserves any somebody. what about the thousands of americans damaged by the trump administration and the fact that she went back to try to help him get another run in 2020 is galling to me. you had to show up but i will give her some small modicum of credit that it seems to me she told the truth. >> that i think was really crucial. the reaction from inside the courtroom at least once one of believability. here is someone who, as you say, went back...
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hope hicks was just sworn in. trump was watching her as she was walking in and she joked quote, unquote, i'm really nervous. katie, your thoughts about this witness and testimony that they are about to see. >> well, i think the prosecution is really hoping to draw out some more direct information about donald trump's direct involvement in this discussions regarding the payments to stormy daniels. we'll have to see what memories hope hicks still has. she has made certain statements in the past that some have considered inconsistent about her memories about this. at the end of the day this is a criminal trial. the prosecution needs proof beyond a reasonable doubt that donald trump committed criminal offenses. all the smoke and collateral circumstances can corroborate some involvement. a tough hill to climb. without direct proof. is this showing that donald trump was obsessed with winning the election he would have done anything. $130,000 doesn't seem much if he was so concerned about in terms of losing this election
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>> happening right now in new york criminal trial for trump, the top aide is on the witness stand, hicks served in the trump administration as what her communications director and then later as an advisor, now she is a nice witness called by the prosecution. we are also awaiting a ruling on for more gag order violations, both sides argued on the matter yesterday but the judge is yet to make a decision. hello, everyone this is "outnumbered" i am emily compagno, here with harris faulkner and kayleigh mceany. also joining us today is called anchor of america reports sandra smith, "fox & friends" weekend cohost and author of the upcoming book "the work on worrier" pete hegseth. first, let's go was to eric was outside the u.s. supreme court? >> yes emily she was at their side during the election campaign and in the white house, now former close aide hope hicks to form a president trump is looking at him directly from the witness stand. as we speak at this moment she is testifying in this child in the criminal court, she of course is a long time loyal member of the inner circle is the press se
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hey, by hope hicks, that recollection from former trump campaign secretary hicks on the stand, referring to the infamous access hollywood tape walk in the jury through how you first learned about it and the crisis that it would spark inside trump world. this portion is the reason why i listen get automatically attracted to beautiful. i just kissing them. it's like a magnet i don't even when your star they let you do it. >> you can do anything, whatever you grabbing butts do anything like delegates these no, i don't want to go ahead. >> male from. then washington post reporter guy named david fahrenthold seeking comment. it was shown in court today. the subject line of from him, the email was urgent washington post barry. the email contained a transcript of what was said on that access hollywood tape as what her first reaction was. hicks replied, quote, i was very concerned. i was concerned, very concerned with his. now is the reporter who broke that bombshell to tell her and the rest of the world, david fahrenthold is now an investigative reporter with the new york times. david has good
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hope hicks was inside manhattan courtroom against her will. the woman who spent years answering questions for trump was now answering questions from the prosecution government lawyers see hicks as the code breaker, the person who knows him about as well as anyone and most critically, she can speak to his deep involvement in managing everything about his orbit. but did what hope hicks say while she was under oath actually do damage to the prosecution's case in some ways. >> i mean, through tears at times, she actually mapped out the final month, the 2016 campaign and tumultuous these as the campaign tried at least abby to navigate the method was the access hollywood tape, including by the way, the furious effort to make stormy stories go away. i mean, she recalled private conversation with cohen, said that she doubted that he would have made $130,000 payment, quote, out of the kindness of his heart recounted how the trump business function like a mom and pop shop with the quote core family members as the key deciders. the prosecution based scor
hope hicks was inside manhattan courtroom against her will. the woman who spent years answering questions for trump was now answering questions from the prosecution government lawyers see hicks as the code breaker, the person who knows him about as well as anyone and most critically, she can speak to his deep involvement in managing everything about his orbit. but did what hope hicks say while she was under oath actually do damage to the prosecution's case in some ways. >> i mean, through...
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now we've heard from hope hicks, right? so we have really principles involved in this transaction from every angle, really unanimous on this point evidently. and i think that it's a key point for the prosecution and a good day for them. >> important point of d, glory is bored jurors with us as well. let's watch gloria trump's reaction outside the courtroom, just a little while ago. well watch this i'm not allowed to comment on any of that as you know, i'm under a gag going i was very interested in what took. >> place today so gloria, what does that tell you? >> and as someone who's covered, who picks and trump for that matter, what stood out to you today? >> well, what stood out to me was first of all, she was under subpoena and didn't really want to be there. and at the end of the day, i wasn't quite sure whether she was more helpful to the prosecution then to the defense because from the prosecution's point of view, she made the case that trump was a micromanager, that he was involved in new about the stormy daniels payme
now we've heard from hope hicks, right? so we have really principles involved in this transaction from every angle, really unanimous on this point evidently. and i think that it's a key point for the prosecution and a good day for them. >> important point of d, glory is bored jurors with us as well. let's watch gloria trump's reaction outside the courtroom, just a little while ago. well watch this i'm not allowed to comment on any of that as you know, i'm under a gag going i was very...
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hicks in that final answer saying, quote, it was mr. trump's opinion that it was better to be dealing with it now and that it would have been bad to have that story come out before the flexion, which could bolster the prosecution case that the former president was motivated by campaign and not necessarily family concerns and suppressing both that and the karen mcdougal stories before the 2016 election, under cross-examination, though she did paint her old bosses of family man who was concerned about the impact on his wife her testimony and michael cohen also provided fodder for both sides. frankly, painting him as someone who had sometimes in her words, go rogue, but also casting doubt on the defense theory that cohen paid off stormy daniels on his own initiative in general, the picture she painted was a hands-on donald trump deeply involved in the details of his business and his case campaign motivated largely by political considerations, and that he was fully aware of what the payment to stormy daniels had bought him in 2016 we've jus
hicks in that final answer saying, quote, it was mr. trump's opinion that it was better to be dealing with it now and that it would have been bad to have that story come out before the flexion, which could bolster the prosecution case that the former president was motivated by campaign and not necessarily family concerns and suppressing both that and the karen mcdougal stories before the 2016 election, under cross-examination, though she did paint her old bosses of family man who was concerned...
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is hope hicks also going rogue? no, she's doing it obviously on behalf of her boss, who she is very loyal to and that's another reason why her testimony is so important. >> okay, thank you so much. carol lam and dave aronberg and yasmine vossoughian. when we come back, new nbc news reporting about the, quote, quiet such for a trump running mate. what is happening behind the scenes while he sits in court. e enes while he sits in court. e] [car door shuts] [paparazzi cameras] introducing, ned's plaque psoriasis. ned, ned, who are you wearing? he thinks his flaky red patches are all people see. otezla is the #1 prescribed pill to treat plaque psoriasis. ned? otezla can help you get clearer skin, and reduce itching and flaking. with no routine blood tests required. doctors have been prescribing otezla for over a decade. otezla is also approved to treat psoriatic arthritis. don't use otezla if you're allergic to it. serious allergic reactions can happen. otezla may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. some people
is hope hicks also going rogue? no, she's doing it obviously on behalf of her boss, who she is very loyal to and that's another reason why her testimony is so important. >> okay, thank you so much. carol lam and dave aronberg and yasmine vossoughian. when we come back, new nbc news reporting about the, quote, quiet such for a trump running mate. what is happening behind the scenes while he sits in court. e enes while he sits in court. e] [car door shuts] [paparazzi cameras] introducing,...
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asieh, what her first reaction was hicks replied, quote, i was very concerned. i was concerned very concerned with his now as the reporter who broke that bombshell to tell her and the rest of the world, david fahrenthold is now an investigative reporter with the new york times. david has good to see you again. i'm wonder what you made of hope hicks is testimony, particularly how your scoop on the access hollywood tape was dealt with behind the scenes the campaign because i'm assuming this is probably the first time you've heard what it was like inside trump world at that time? >> yeah, it's a rare opportunity as a reporter to get this sort of see the other side of a day like this. so yeah, we sent them this transcript. these questions were around one 30 in the afternoon. and all i knew at that point was the responses i got back from them, which was first this doesn't sound like mr. trump sentence the video to be sure. and then after we send them the video do they then confirmed it was him today? it was real so interesting and sort of surreal to see all the steps
asieh, what her first reaction was hicks replied, quote, i was very concerned. i was concerned very concerned with his now as the reporter who broke that bombshell to tell her and the rest of the world, david fahrenthold is now an investigative reporter with the new york times. david has good to see you again. i'm wonder what you made of hope hicks is testimony, particularly how your scoop on the access hollywood tape was dealt with behind the scenes the campaign because i'm assuming this is...
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hicks was sitting just feet away from her former boss. this is the moment caught by the sketch artist immediately got emotional when trump's team began the cross-examinatio n and asked her about her time at trump organization now, that was that particular moment. the reality is from the moment he picks walked into that courtroom, the atmosphere change. this is an important witness. are reporters who were there say it was almost electric in terms of the change in the room, hicks is as inner circle for trump as it gets and she did prove to be a key witness of the witnesses so far revealing never before known details that frankly were crucial to both sides for the prosecution. when asked if michael cohen would have paid stormy daniels without trump's approval, she said, quote, i didn't know michael to be in especially charitable person or selfless person. he's the kind of person who seeks credit. i'd say that would be out of character from michael that was crucial there, but then she also oh, painted cohen as someone who often went quote, ro
hicks was sitting just feet away from her former boss. this is the moment caught by the sketch artist immediately got emotional when trump's team began the cross-examinatio n and asked her about her time at trump organization now, that was that particular moment. the reality is from the moment he picks walked into that courtroom, the atmosphere change. this is an important witness. are reporters who were there say it was almost electric in terms of the change in the room, hicks is as inner...
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let's start, though, with hope hicks. we mentioned earlier in the show, she closed out testimony on friday. closed out the week in an appearance that got emotional. she takes the stand again in a couple hours. give us your main takeaways on friday. who did she help more, the prosecution or defense? >> probably the prosecution, though they never would have called her if they didn't think she was helpful to their case. number one, she doesn't have the credibility issues as some of the other prosecution witnesses, whether it be keith davidson or, of course, michael cohen. number two, she points out that the trump campaign, including her, were very concerned about these allegations of women, about having romantic interludes with donald trump, and how they might affect the campaign. she describes the scene of chaos within the campaign with this concern about what to do about these stories. finally, i thought this was significant, she apparently -- donald trump admitted to her that he was aware that michael cohen had paid storm
let's start, though, with hope hicks. we mentioned earlier in the show, she closed out testimony on friday. closed out the week in an appearance that got emotional. she takes the stand again in a couple hours. give us your main takeaways on friday. who did she help more, the prosecution or defense? >> probably the prosecution, though they never would have called her if they didn't think she was helpful to their case. number one, she doesn't have the credibility issues as some of the other...
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from hope hicks. who was hope hicks at the time? communication director for the trump campaign. do you also recall receiving at around that time an email from steve bannon about the potential release of the access hollywood tape? yes. who was he at the time? campaign manager for the trump campaign. do you recognize this email? it's an email between me and steve bannon as well as hope hicks jason miller kellyanne conway david bossi. does it relate to the release of the access hollywood tape busty mark can you tell the jury what you understand this bottom email to be? this is an email from david farren told of the washington post and it's to hope hicks with the subject matter of urgent, washington post query. in general what is he communicating to hope hicks and what is he asking her for? he's asking her for comment in regard to the leak of the tape from access hollywood. is there a transcript of the access hollywood tape attached to the email to hope hicks? there is. does hope hicks forward that email to some other folks? she does. what does hope hicks say in the email she forwar
from hope hicks. who was hope hicks at the time? communication director for the trump campaign. do you also recall receiving at around that time an email from steve bannon about the potential release of the access hollywood tape? yes. who was he at the time? campaign manager for the trump campaign. do you recognize this email? it's an email between me and steve bannon as well as hope hicks jason miller kellyanne conway david bossi. does it relate to the release of the access hollywood tape...
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the hope hicks we saw last week is consistent with the same hope hicks. in truth teller, although under duress, but a truth teller nonetheless. >> lisa rubin, msnbc correspondent. we will continue our coverage of everything you need to know about project 2025. is the antidemocratic plan to overhaul the american government at the far right wants to implement donald trump returns to the presidency. power outages can be unpredictable, inconvenient, and disruptive to your life, posing a real threat to your family's comfort and safety. when the power goes out, you have no lights, no refrigeration, no heating or air conditioning. the winds are not letting up at all here, and we're going to see some power outages. the number one thing to prepare for is extended power outages. are you prepared? you can be with a generac home standby generator. when a power outage occurs, your generac home standby generator automatically powers up, using your home's existing natural gas or propane, so your life goes on without disruption. you and your family are comfortable, safe,
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time from in the courtroom donald trump is facing new york his former communications director hope hicks says she learned from a "wall street journal" article that she -- when she was on trump's plane getting ready for a hanger rally in ohio she received the email just as they were landing "wall street journal" article would outline karen mcdougal's story purchased by the "national enquirer" but never published. and wanted comment. again, she was reached out to buy media to try and respond and now they are getting her real-time reaction to some of the things that were happening around donald trump with all of this. thank you for watching. "america reports," send or you there? sandra are you there? >> i have to go through this trial day after day, the trial is we are winning this trial. if we had a fair trial and a fair judge i don't think he would've allowed this trial to take place. everything is legal. they are doing this because for politics they want to get biden elected. >> sandra: here we got a big day of testimony in new york's criminal trial against former president donald trump
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hicks recalled trump being upset. she said there was a consensus among campaign leadership that the tape was damaging to the campaign, and it was a crisis she said media coverage of the tape was so intense, it literally knocked a category four hurricane out of the news cycle hope said it was all trump all the time for the next 36 hours, hicks testified that trump was involved in the campaigns response prosecutors played his video apology for the jury. >> anyone who knows me knows because these words don't reflect who i am. >> i said it. i was wrong and i apologize prosecutors tried to show that catastrophic impact the access hollywood tape had on trump's campaign, demonstrating the urgency to kill another bombshell story from being released just weeks before the election, hicks testified she was sitting on the plane when she learned that the wall street journal plans to publish a piece about the national enquirer's catch-and-kill deal involving trump's alleged affair with an x playboy model, karen mcdougal, and adult
hicks recalled trump being upset. she said there was a consensus among campaign leadership that the tape was damaging to the campaign, and it was a crisis she said media coverage of the tape was so intense, it literally knocked a category four hurricane out of the news cycle hope said it was all trump all the time for the next 36 hours, hicks testified that trump was involved in the campaigns response prosecutors played his video apology for the jury. >> anyone who knows me knows because...
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and this is cnn hope hicks. once one of trump's most trusted aides testified for nearly three hours on friday. here's what i found fascinating and disappointing and posted on x quote, just watch two totally different interpretations of why hope hicks was brought to tears and testimony on competing networks. what a great illustration of why there should be cameras in court so that we can see for ourselves joining me now is cnn senior legal analyst and former federal prosecutor, elie honig. elie, i've read the transcript, but i can't see the body language yesterday is the argument as to why we ought to be able to see it for ourselves? >> oh, i hundred percent agree. i'm with you now, michael, i probably wouldn't have been with you five years ago when i was a prosecutor, but now i think we have to have cameras in the courtroom and you can see why in the coverage of this, there's this sort of effort to tie hope hicks crying to some specific motive, some specific thing that she testified about. i don't buy that i've
and this is cnn hope hicks. once one of trump's most trusted aides testified for nearly three hours on friday. here's what i found fascinating and disappointing and posted on x quote, just watch two totally different interpretations of why hope hicks was brought to tears and testimony on competing networks. what a great illustration of why there should be cameras in court so that we can see for ourselves joining me now is cnn senior legal analyst and former federal prosecutor, elie honig. elie,...
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to end with hope hicks is perfect. it was great for the prosecution and hope hicks, she knew exactly who he was, if you did not know and she saw who donald trump was, she should've gotten out. she did not, she came back for more, let's be clear. you know, having that level of emotion going into her testimony made her more credible. i put on twitter today that she still put lipstick on a pig, it is not like she was all in with the testimony. she made it clear that donald trump ran it all. the idea that he was not controlling what was going on -- i'm not allowed to say this. >> the thing that everyone should take away from this week, it is the most reminiscent of what a trial actually feels like. really exciting moments, some things that come out from evidence, there are also some mundane moments as well and that is the cadence of the trial. we have settled into that with a trial that we have not seen. many are going to take the glasses off. >> question for you, i want to talk about keith davidson. this entire trial is s
to end with hope hicks is perfect. it was great for the prosecution and hope hicks, she knew exactly who he was, if you did not know and she saw who donald trump was, she should've gotten out. she did not, she came back for more, let's be clear. you know, having that level of emotion going into her testimony made her more credible. i put on twitter today that she still put lipstick on a pig, it is not like she was all in with the testimony. she made it clear that donald trump ran it all. the...