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hickox is uncomfortable and doesn't want to be quarantined. my greater responsibility is 8 million people in new jersey. if we get to the point she's no longer an issue or risk factor, then we'll move from there. >> more from hickox in a few minutes. >>> first the panic and policy ever changing around the demand. elizabeth cohen is here with more. good morning. >> one fight of this controversy says we're trying to protect the public and need quarantines. the other side says look, when people aren't sick, they can't possibly get other people sick. why do we have quarantines? >> the governors of new york and new jersey offering clarification on their day's old policy on ebola quarantining. under the guidelines, health care workers returning from treating ebola patients in west africa will remain quarantined for mandatory 21 days. residents of the states can stay inside their homes. in addition, those traveling from ebola hot zones that haven't come in contact with patients will be actively monitored. for nurse kaci hickox, isolated three days by
hickox is uncomfortable and doesn't want to be quarantined. my greater responsibility is 8 million people in new jersey. if we get to the point she's no longer an issue or risk factor, then we'll move from there. >> more from hickox in a few minutes. >>> first the panic and policy ever changing around the demand. elizabeth cohen is here with more. good morning. >> one fight of this controversy says we're trying to protect the public and need quarantines. the other side says...
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casey hickox versus maine. she says she's prepared to fight. plus, a live and possibly still plotting attacks. u.s. officials raising concerns that air strikes did not get two top terrorists and -- >> sit down and shut up. >> that heckler tried to interrupt chris christie, but he has some advice of his own. >> turn around, get your 15 minutes of fame then maybe take your jacket off, roll up your sleeves and do something for the people of that state. >> let's talk. >> let's talk. live in the cnn news room. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> good morning. thank you so much for joining me. we begin with the tense showdown between casey hickox and the state of maine. right now, state police are standing guard outside of the home where hickox is staying in ft. kent, maine. this as health officials begin the process of filing a court order that would require her to follow a 21-day ebola quarantine. overnight, hickox who spoke from her front lawn with her boyfriend at her side, said she is prepared to fight. >> i have been told that the attorne
casey hickox versus maine. she says she's prepared to fight. plus, a live and possibly still plotting attacks. u.s. officials raising concerns that air strikes did not get two top terrorists and -- >> sit down and shut up. >> that heckler tried to interrupt chris christie, but he has some advice of his own. >> turn around, get your 15 minutes of fame then maybe take your jacket off, roll up your sleeves and do something for the people of that state. >> let's talk....
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what will kaci hickox do next? >>> ferguson's police chief on the record about reports that he is being forced to resign. of course, following the police shooting of unarmed teenager michael brown. the chief now blasting critics and federal investigation launched by eric holder. harsh words. good morning, welcome to "early start." i'm john berman. >> i'm christine romans. it is friday, october 31st. happy halloween. we have breaking news overnight. suspected cop killer eric frein facing the death penalty following his capture in northeast pennsylvania. late thursday afternoon, authorities say the charges against frein include first-degree murder and two counts of possessing weapons of mass destruction. a reference to two pipe bombs found in frein's hiding place at an abandoned airfield. he is expected to be arraigned in a few hours in a county courthouse in milford, pennsylvania. that is where
what will kaci hickox do next? >>> ferguson's police chief on the record about reports that he is being forced to resign. of course, following the police shooting of unarmed teenager michael brown. the chief now blasting critics and federal investigation launched by eric holder. harsh words. good morning, welcome to "early start." i'm john berman. >> i'm christine romans. it is friday, october 31st. happy halloween. we have breaking news overnight. suspected cop killer...
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. >> kaci hickox and cbs news these pictures of her isolation unit as university hospital in newark, new jersey. hickox gained national attention saturday when she wrote an article in the dallas morning news criticizing the new mandatory quarantine process saying they was questioned as if she was a criminal. >> the hospital where hickox is saying issued this statement. >> while we understand the required quarantine is an inconvenience, the patient continues to be ice hated in a climate controlled extended care facility area that is inside a building that is part of the hospital. cnn spoke to hickox this morning. >> i have kind of a port-a-potty type restroom, no showers facility, and no connection with the outside world, they shut my iphone which i insisted i brought with me when i arrived late friday night. >> aclu attorney norman siegel represents hickox, the organization issued a statement that reads in part, by forcibly detaining people we are also frightening the public, but also encouraging caregivers and first responders from helping sick patient whose need their assistance. >
. >> kaci hickox and cbs news these pictures of her isolation unit as university hospital in newark, new jersey. hickox gained national attention saturday when she wrote an article in the dallas morning news criticizing the new mandatory quarantine process saying they was questioned as if she was a criminal. >> the hospital where hickox is saying issued this statement. >> while we understand the required quarantine is an inconvenience, the patient continues to be ice hated in...
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new jersey health officials say casi hickox had been symptom-free for 24 hours. she will undergo a 21-day quarantine at her home in maine per that state's guidelines. also today, the u.s. army says it will quarantine soldiers coming back from serving in liberia even though they were kept away from any ebola patients. >>> this just in, the new york health department confirms that a 5-year-old boy has tested negative for the ebola virus. the boy developed a fever after returning from a trip to guinea over the weekend. >>> nbc 10's cydney long, live at the hospital in newark where that nurse was released today. we now know how she was transported? ç >> reporter: renee, we do. her release happened quietly under the radar and without any flashing lights or sirens. our sister station in new york is reporting that an ems professional is actually driving miss hickox door to door from the hospital to her home in maine in a medically equipped suv as we speak. speaking about nurse casi hickox, new jersey's aclu called her mandatory quarantine a knee-jerk reaction driven b
new jersey health officials say casi hickox had been symptom-free for 24 hours. she will undergo a 21-day quarantine at her home in maine per that state's guidelines. also today, the u.s. army says it will quarantine soldiers coming back from serving in liberia even though they were kept away from any ebola patients. >>> this just in, the new york health department confirms that a 5-year-old boy has tested negative for the ebola virus. the boy developed a fever after returning from a...
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what do you think should happen to casey hickox? >> first of all, there's a lot of different legal and political nuances to the statement i'm about to make. i think we've seen precedence would require two conditions. one, an individual assessment of the statement determines that they clearly pose a risk to the public and that decision is backed by scientific evidence. in those two scenarios, we are not seeing this is the case with this patient. we've said she is not currently contagious. she doesn't pose a direct threat to the public. and most scientific bodies have made the recommendation that people are not forced into a quarantine. she is one of these workers from the doctors without borders. they have sent around 700 health care workers to west africa, only three of whom have been infected. so clearly they are following very appropriate and effective protocols. the numbers of health care workers from west africa on the other hand roughly 400 have become infected, over 200 have died. the fatality rate and the risk of infection i
what do you think should happen to casey hickox? >> first of all, there's a lot of different legal and political nuances to the statement i'm about to make. i think we've seen precedence would require two conditions. one, an individual assessment of the statement determines that they clearly pose a risk to the public and that decision is backed by scientific evidence. in those two scenarios, we are not seeing this is the case with this patient. we've said she is not currently contagious....
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kaci hickox has no ebola symptoms as we said. she has tested negative for the virus twice, but maine officials told hickox to stay isolated in her home. they will seek a court order to make sure that happens. with hickox's boyfriend at her side, she told reporters this is not science based. >> it is not my intention to put anyone at risk in the community. we have been in necessigotiatio with the state of maine all day. we tried to handle this amicably. i am completely healthy and symptom free. i am frustrated by this fact and i have been told that the attorney general's intention is to file legal action against me and if this does occur, then i will challenge those legal actions. i'm fighting for something much more than myself. there are so many aid workers coming back. doctors without borders estimated 20 american aid workers are coming back from the ebola response next month. it scares me to think how they will be treated and how they will feel. when we let stigma win, we all lose. >> there are other cases where individuals ha
kaci hickox has no ebola symptoms as we said. she has tested negative for the virus twice, but maine officials told hickox to stay isolated in her home. they will seek a court order to make sure that happens. with hickox's boyfriend at her side, she told reporters this is not science based. >> it is not my intention to put anyone at risk in the community. we have been in necessigotiatio with the state of maine all day. we tried to handle this amicably. i am completely healthy and symptom...
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lepage says negotiations with hickox have failed. hickox and her boyfriend, ted wilber seem to be testing the authority to be confined to their home. they took a dramatic bike ride through the woods. >> her behavior is riling a lot of people up. you know, i can only do what i can do. we are trying to protect her, but she is not acting as smartly as she probably should. let's put this this way, i am going to use the legal provisions to the fullest extent that the law allows me. i just hope that she recognizes that. >> we did not go into the grocery store. we are not trying to get anyone sick. we don't believe we can get anyone sick and we are not trying to put anyone at risk. so, we're not trying to push any limits here. we're members of the community, too. we want to make everyone feel comfortable. >> that was the boyfriend of kaci hickox. ted wilbur. he says he feels like he has been effectively quarantined as well. he is barred from campus or class or to drop off homework. >>> the pentagon racing to prepare military hospitals in th
lepage says negotiations with hickox have failed. hickox and her boyfriend, ted wilber seem to be testing the authority to be confined to their home. they took a dramatic bike ride through the woods. >> her behavior is riling a lot of people up. you know, i can only do what i can do. we are trying to protect her, but she is not acting as smartly as she probably should. let's put this this way, i am going to use the legal provisions to the fullest extent that the law allows me. i just hope...
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so far, hickox has agreed to daily checkups and has not left the fort kent area. but last night, she said she is worried health workers are being stigmatized. >> when we let stigmatization win, we all lose. so, i think this is something we have to fight from the beginning. you know, i have been told that if friends come to my house, they can't hug me. they have to stay three feet away from me. >> reporter: hickox's favorite pizza play, the moose shack, the owner, becky long, has been getting calls from other customers. >> receiving phone calls, has she been here? is she here? you know, people wanting to come have lunch but are not coming because possibility she may be here. >> reporter: she wantses to send over a pizza, but she is waiting to fee the police will let her. while other lunchgoers criticized hickox. >> you think she is spreading anything, but why take the chance? why -- why make an uproar in the community when there's no need of it? >> reporter: at hickox's house late today, there was little sign of an uproar, just a health worker coming for a checkup
so far, hickox has agreed to daily checkups and has not left the fort kent area. but last night, she said she is worried health workers are being stigmatized. >> when we let stigmatization win, we all lose. so, i think this is something we have to fight from the beginning. you know, i have been told that if friends come to my house, they can't hug me. they have to stay three feet away from me. >> reporter: hickox's favorite pizza play, the moose shack, the owner, becky long, has...
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. >> chasing kasi hickox. she goes for a bike ride to find her state-ordered quarantine as the governor issues what sounds like a vailed thet. >> she's not acting as smart as she probably should. >> then, one day after this -- >> sit down and shut up. >> this response. gh i think his usual bullying routine is wearing thin. >> i don't look forward to do that stuff, but i will shrink away from democracy. it's just another day at the white house. >> plus -- >> i'm nan heyworth, and i approve this message. >> and the nail bieting end to the world series. did kansas make the right call? "all in" starts right now. >> good evening, from new york. i'm chris hayes. we have breaking news tonight. a seven-week man hunt has come to a close in pennsylvania for a man accused of killing one state trooper and seriously injuring another. eric frein, 31 years old, the son of retired army major who once said his son was a good shot who "doesn't miss" is captured today. he was caught at an airport. he has been taken into custody.
. >> chasing kasi hickox. she goes for a bike ride to find her state-ordered quarantine as the governor issues what sounds like a vailed thet. >> she's not acting as smart as she probably should. >> then, one day after this -- >> sit down and shut up. >> this response. gh i think his usual bullying routine is wearing thin. >> i don't look forward to do that stuff, but i will shrink away from democracy. it's just another day at the white house. >> plus...
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but in your mind, is kaci hickox contagious in any way? she's tested twice -- she's tested negative twice for ebola and she's voluntarily submitting to tests from health officials to take her temperature and that sort of thing. is she contagious, doctor? >> the fact is, i should not render an opinion on that. >> why not? >> my understanding is that there was a temperature recorded on temporal scan which then from the public health standpoint invoked the proper sequence of events. >> but, doctor, i would like your medical opinion. is she contagious? would you go up and shake kaci hickox's hand right now? >> again, carol, i don't know where she is in the course. i don't know how long it has been since she returned. certainly she -- my understanding is she has had a blood test or two which has been negative. i hope that clinical course continues. >> i ask you these questions because the criticism is these decisions for quarantine are being made for political purposes and not for scientific reasons. >> this is one thing that i think perhaps ev
but in your mind, is kaci hickox contagious in any way? she's tested twice -- she's tested negative twice for ebola and she's voluntarily submitting to tests from health officials to take her temperature and that sort of thing. is she contagious, doctor? >> the fact is, i should not render an opinion on that. >> why not? >> my understanding is that there was a temperature recorded on temporal scan which then from the public health standpoint invoked the proper sequence of...
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what's unclear what will happen when kaci hickox gets back to maine. we're told while she's in new jersey she's still under quarantine because that is the protocol this state established. maine doesn't have such protocols so it will be hundred to health officials to determine whether or not kaci hickox would be quarantined or whether health officials will check back to her. her attorney is making it very clear that she should not be warn feeled. he says she is not sick, very healthy, that she's shown twice that ebola tests have come back negative so they are hoping to get her out of here. they want to see in the a private car. the attorney says he wants to seer in a private car returning to maine where she can get back to her normal life. she brought in attorneys to try and force her release from this hospital. she'd been told she would be kept here for 21 days. attorneys were ready to go to court to get her released. that won't be necessary right now but hieman says he feels there are grounds to challenge this protocol that's been put in place. the ma
what's unclear what will happen when kaci hickox gets back to maine. we're told while she's in new jersey she's still under quarantine because that is the protocol this state established. maine doesn't have such protocols so it will be hundred to health officials to determine whether or not kaci hickox would be quarantined or whether health officials will check back to her. her attorney is making it very clear that she should not be warn feeled. he says she is not sick, very healthy, that she's...
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hickox or ms. country,off to another they're certain commitments we make to them as sort of the international people who go and come back. themke commitments to give the best protective equipment, but not everybody locally has. that wethem commitments will fly them back, take care of them, pay them during the recovery period and give them the best care possible. the fact or certain kinds of privileges given to the first two people who were in infected and they brought back, is not, to me, necessarily problematic. that is a really different question than, how do we figure out whether these experimental drugs work? certainly, right now, the best interventions are those that dr. sacks mention. we have to figure out whether the vaccines were treatment's work. uncomfortable as that may be, we are going to have to be doing that with larger numbers of people, with people who are sick in terms of treatment, and it looks like they're not working dramatically well, we're going to have to make some hard acisi
hickox or ms. country,off to another they're certain commitments we make to them as sort of the international people who go and come back. themke commitments to give the best protective equipment, but not everybody locally has. that wethem commitments will fly them back, take care of them, pay them during the recovery period and give them the best care possible. the fact or certain kinds of privileges given to the first two people who were in infected and they brought back, is not, to me,...
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kaci hickox says her quarantine in new jersey violated her basic, human rights. now the nurse who treated ebola patients in west africa is expected to be at her home in maine today. new jersey governor chris christie ordered her released from isolation after she tested negative for ebola. >>> a 5-year-old boy in new york who had a fever, has also tested negative for the virus, but he'll remain in the hospital in isolation for now at least. also in new york, dr. craig spencer is now in serious but stable condition. he tested positive for ebola last week. >>> and take a look at the american mood toward ebola. a new poll shows 8 in 10 americans believe someone in the u.s. will become infected with ebola in the next few weeks. but a majority, 54%, believe the u.s. government is doing a good job handling ebola. 42% say it's doing a poor job at the moment. >> no matter what the polls say, there's increasing scrutiny over chris christie's decision to quarantine kaci hickox. >> reporter: new jersey governor chris christie not backing down from his mandatory quarantine or
kaci hickox says her quarantine in new jersey violated her basic, human rights. now the nurse who treated ebola patients in west africa is expected to be at her home in maine today. new jersey governor chris christie ordered her released from isolation after she tested negative for ebola. >>> a 5-year-old boy in new york who had a fever, has also tested negative for the virus, but he'll remain in the hospital in isolation for now at least. also in new york, dr. craig spencer is now in...
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. >> reporter: kaci hickox describes her quarantine as disorganized and frightening. she details her experience in the "dallas morning news." an official "barked questions at me as if i was a criminal." hickox says after disclosing she worked with ebola patients in sierra leona, someone escorted her to a quarantine office at new jersey international airport. she goes on to say, "my temperature was taken using a forehead scanner and it read 98. three hours passed, i was given a granola bar and some water. i was left alone in a room for another three hours." hickox is now being kept in a tent outside a new jersey hospital with nothing but her cell phone. "this is not a situation i would wish on anyone," she says. "i'm scared for those who will follow me." lisa balm is with the new york state nurses' association. >> the last thing we want to do is to have disincentives for health care workers to treat sick patients either here at home or in west africa. >> reporter: hickox is the first patient quarantined after new york city dr. craig spencer tested positive for ebola. h
. >> reporter: kaci hickox describes her quarantine as disorganized and frightening. she details her experience in the "dallas morning news." an official "barked questions at me as if i was a criminal." hickox says after disclosing she worked with ebola patients in sierra leona, someone escorted her to a quarantine office at new jersey international airport. she goes on to say, "my temperature was taken using a forehead scanner and it read 98. three hours passed,...
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nurse kaci hickox is back in maine with straight troopers outside of her home. she's threatening to break quarantine, which is supposed to last until next weekend. >> i don't plan on sticking to the guidelines. i remain appalled by these home quarantine policies that have been forced upon me, even though i am in perfectly good health. if the restrictions placed on me by the state of maine are not lifted by thursday mortganing, will go to court to fight for my freedom. >> maine is one of several states that require anyone with possible ebola exposure to stay at home for three weeks with medical checks twice a day. the state is also preparing to take to a judge to force the nurse to comply. >>> and another big ebola story line here. today defense chief chuck hagel signed orders to separate all troops returning from west africa for three weeks. he calls it an incubation period, but they call it a quarantine period. even though deployed soldiers are not to have had contact with ebola patients overseas. >> this
nurse kaci hickox is back in maine with straight troopers outside of her home. she's threatening to break quarantine, which is supposed to last until next weekend. >> i don't plan on sticking to the guidelines. i remain appalled by these home quarantine policies that have been forced upon me, even though i am in perfectly good health. if the restrictions placed on me by the state of maine are not lifted by thursday mortganing, will go to court to fight for my freedom. >> maine is...
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on facebook people called hickox a disgrace to the health field, disgrace. some say she's putting her self-interest ahead of everybody else. >> no, kaci was not a part of this. >> reporter: the president met with others just back from the region today. and again said he's worried quarantine rules will discourage volunteering. >> they make huge sacrifices to protect this country that we love. and when they come home, they deserve to be treated properly. they deserve to be treated like the heroes they are. >> reporter: despite the president's concern about mandatory quarantines, the u.s. military is doing just that. the president's explaining the rules are different for military personnel because their movements are already restricted. more than 40 soldiers are confined on a base in italy for 21 days. 1,100 troops are on the ground in west africa. internal pentagon moemos say th quarantine was issued after concern from military families. california became the first kind of state to enact some kind of quarantine. the attorney for kaci hickox says he thinks her
on facebook people called hickox a disgrace to the health field, disgrace. some say she's putting her self-interest ahead of everybody else. >> no, kaci was not a part of this. >> reporter: the president met with others just back from the region today. and again said he's worried quarantine rules will discourage volunteering. >> they make huge sacrifices to protect this country that we love. and when they come home, they deserve to be treated properly. they deserve to be...
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because kaci hickox isn't the only one facing this mandatory quarantine. another american, ryan boy co-is being quarantined in connecticut despite testing negative for the virus not once but twice. he wasn't even around anybody with ebola, he just happened to visit west africa, but he remains in isolation in his apartment with an armed guard outside the door. listen to what he told anderson cooper. >> you can't lock somebody up because they might pose some kind of danger later. it's unfortunate in this country right now that the public health law is very vague in a lot of states and it's just not clear what the government can and can't do. >> so mr. hyman, this is sort of what you're talking about, right? >> of course! there is no evidence and the "new england journal of medicine" has a wonderful editorial on this that when you talk to doctors -- not politicians and not people who are just fearful because they would like kaci to stay home and be secluded from them -- there is no evidence of any medical risk to the society or the community. none. . >> mr. h
because kaci hickox isn't the only one facing this mandatory quarantine. another american, ryan boy co-is being quarantined in connecticut despite testing negative for the virus not once but twice. he wasn't even around anybody with ebola, he just happened to visit west africa, but he remains in isolation in his apartment with an armed guard outside the door. listen to what he told anderson cooper. >> you can't lock somebody up because they might pose some kind of danger later. it's...
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kaci hickox was first quarantined in new jersey when she returned from west africa. now at home in maine, she vows to challenge any new quarantine. >>> police say they've shot and killed the suspect in the drive-by shooting of an israeli activist in jerusalem. yehuda glick is said to be in stable condition. he says jewish people should be allowed to pray in the al aqsa compound. the site will stay closed to prevent disturbances. >>> we want to connect with erin mclaughlin in jerusalem. police saying they have shot and killed the suspect in that drive-by shooting incident. erin joins us on the line. i know this news is just happening now. but what new information can you tell us? >> reporter: that's right. arlington, according to israeli police, they had been searching neighborhoods all night. we understand shots were fired at police officers when they surrounded a building in a neighborhood on the scene between east and west jerusalem, police say a man who was behind last night's attempted assassination of yehud dmrik was inside the building. the suspect was shot and
kaci hickox was first quarantined in new jersey when she returned from west africa. now at home in maine, she vows to challenge any new quarantine. >>> police say they've shot and killed the suspect in the drive-by shooting of an israeli activist in jerusalem. yehuda glick is said to be in stable condition. he says jewish people should be allowed to pray in the al aqsa compound. the site will stay closed to prevent disturbances. >>> we want to connect with erin mclaughlin in...
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we've been talking this week about a court order that would compel hickox to stay inside her house. that's not actually what this court order does. instead, it follows these guidelines. among them are included the rules that she's allowed to go out in public as long as it's not in a place where there are lots people. as long as she keeps a three-foot distance from people, that's allowed. that includes things like the bike ride we saw yesterday. on top of that, it requires a daily monitoring. we have been seeing a health worker come here from the cdc in the afternoon every day so she's been abiding by that. there are also limitations on how she can travel. she can't use public transportation. she can't go outside of the fort kent area without consulting with people within the state. so far, she has abided by those rules as well. so definitely a step forward here in the legal process for officials in maine. it's a little unclear still if there are any issues that kacie has with these guidelines. it's a little different than staying in the house and threatening her with arrest if she l
we've been talking this week about a court order that would compel hickox to stay inside her house. that's not actually what this court order does. instead, it follows these guidelines. among them are included the rules that she's allowed to go out in public as long as it's not in a place where there are lots people. as long as she keeps a three-foot distance from people, that's allowed. that includes things like the bike ride we saw yesterday. on top of that, it requires a daily monitoring. we...
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. >> but lee page also wants to keep hickox herself safe. ordering a police escort to keep guard 24/7. >> tempers get flaring when people get scared. last thing i want is for her to get hurt. >> hickox says she has done nothing wrong. and the boyfriend said they rode in the opposite direction from town and she hasn't stepped foot inside a store. the pair ate in. pizza was delivered to them. >> we are not trying to put anyone at risk. we're not trying to push any limits here. >> maine is now one of nine states with quarantine measures beyond cdc guidelines. whether or not stricter quarantine laws are the right move -- may impact mid-term elections only a week away. as several of the state's governors are running for re-election. and governor paul lepage on the republican ticket is in a hotly contested re-election effort. president obama came to maine yesterday for a democratic fundraiser, but didn't mention what's happening here in fort kent. alisyn? >> interesting. jean casarez, thanks so much for the background. and stick around for a few m
. >> but lee page also wants to keep hickox herself safe. ordering a police escort to keep guard 24/7. >> tempers get flaring when people get scared. last thing i want is for her to get hurt. >> hickox says she has done nothing wrong. and the boyfriend said they rode in the opposite direction from town and she hasn't stepped foot inside a store. the pair ate in. pizza was delivered to them. >> we are not trying to put anyone at risk. we're not trying to push any limits...
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. >> reporter: they want hickox tested for ebola again, while we wait for the decision hickox headed out showing she is not sick. today nurse tracy hickox defying her quarantine, leaving her house with her boyfriend and going for a bike ride. she is trying to reach a solution with officials that want her to stay in isolation for another 12 days, i'm not willing to stand here and let my civil rights be violated. hickox returned from west africa last week after treating patients for ebola. she tested negative twice for the disease. but they say they need to test her again. >> despite experts insisting that hickox does not prove a risk to the community. this trooper is staked out at her home for her safety. people there are sad and angry. >> people are concerned about her attitude. >> and in connecticut, her child was healthy, was told not to come to school because she recently travelled to nigeria, more than 1,000 miles from the ebola outbreak. >> dr. craig spencer is still hospitals in new york listed in critical but stable condition. >> marcy thank you. >>> tom manino retired, he was
. >> reporter: they want hickox tested for ebola again, while we wait for the decision hickox headed out showing she is not sick. today nurse tracy hickox defying her quarantine, leaving her house with her boyfriend and going for a bike ride. she is trying to reach a solution with officials that want her to stay in isolation for another 12 days, i'm not willing to stand here and let my civil rights be violated. hickox returned from west africa last week after treating patients for ebola....
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he was asked about this being a and alsoaci hickox talked about dr. craig spencer who have been treated for ebola in new york. he was speaking on cnn. right tos earned the have a sense of her own safety and her own risk factor to others. i don't think dr. spencer danger to anyone. my feeling is, again, i'm not an expert, this is just my own view on the exposures to ebola, i think governor chris christie's -- playingcs politics in an effort to work with public opinion rather than listen to the advice of the experts. i think it is cap productive. these are people who have gone and endanger their lives to work with people have very limited resources and are dying and relatively large numbers. to make it more difficult and a treat them as if they are potential problem as opposed to a public asset, i just think it is a shame. i don't think it is the right way to act. >> that was ebola survivor ashoka mukpo speaking on cnn. lawrence gostin, canoe explain why does people are so fearful, have been so critical of kaci and dr. craig spencer, for what they claim
he was asked about this being a and alsoaci hickox talked about dr. craig spencer who have been treated for ebola in new york. he was speaking on cnn. right tos earned the have a sense of her own safety and her own risk factor to others. i don't think dr. spencer danger to anyone. my feeling is, again, i'm not an expert, this is just my own view on the exposures to ebola, i think governor chris christie's -- playingcs politics in an effort to work with public opinion rather than listen to the...
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. >> reporter: this morning, kaci hickox took her usual morning bike ride, with the state trooper and the media not far behind, there was nothing usual about it. >> you talk about taking a step last night? >> this morning, chad and i said we wanted to go for a bike ride. >> reporter: maine's governor didn't seem overly concerned, even though just yesterday, his own health officials said she had to stay at home. >> as long as she is not touching other people or, you know, staying a distance from other people, then i don't see the harm. >> reporter: but in a statement, the governor said negotiations with hickox failed and she wouldn't agree to all of maine's guidelines for people at some risk of developing ebola. so far, hickox has agreed to daily checkups and has not left the fort kent area. >> how are you doing? >> i'm okay. >> reporter: but last night, she said she is worried health workers are being stigmatized. >> when we let stigmatization win, we all lose. so, i think this is something we have to fight from the beginning. you know, i have been told that if friends come to my hous
. >> reporter: this morning, kaci hickox took her usual morning bike ride, with the state trooper and the media not far behind, there was nothing usual about it. >> you talk about taking a step last night? >> this morning, chad and i said we wanted to go for a bike ride. >> reporter: maine's governor didn't seem overly concerned, even though just yesterday, his own health officials said she had to stay at home. >> as long as she is not touching other people or, you...
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miss hickox should be taken into custody. but she'll be because the feds have no ebola policy at all. martha: a doctor who survived ebola says nurse kaci hickox has no symptoms at all. >> the science suggests she is not a risk to anyone at this time. in that sense i support her contentions. she is not a risk. the reason you confine someone is because they are a risk. martha: she is not a risk at this time which could be the operative word. we'll debate whether the nurse should be forced to stay under that quarantine. bill: what do you think? is she selfish or practical. should that nurse be held in quarantine? weigh in and let us know what you are thinking. five days left before the polls open across the country. north carolina between kay hang the incumbent and thom tillis. this will be the most expensive race ever with the price tag exieexceeding $100 million. >> what are they spending all that money on in north carolina. they inundated north carolina with raid oh ads and tv ads. it's the political action committees support
miss hickox should be taken into custody. but she'll be because the feds have no ebola policy at all. martha: a doctor who survived ebola says nurse kaci hickox has no symptoms at all. >> the science suggests she is not a risk to anyone at this time. in that sense i support her contentions. she is not a risk. the reason you confine someone is because they are a risk. martha: she is not a risk at this time which could be the operative word. we'll debate whether the nurse should be forced...
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this is kaci hickox taking a walk today with her boyfriend. hickox returned to maine after treating ebola patients in west africa. she's symptom-free, but the governor wanted her barred from public places. vinita nair has her reaction. >> reporter: kaci hickox stepped out of her home feeling vindicated by today's ruling. >> i am humbled today by the judge's decision. >> reporter: on thursday night, the judge issued a temporary order restricting her movements. today, he reversed that, saying hickox can now leave her home as long as she is directly monitored for any symptoms of ebola. she must coordinate any travel with state health officials and immediately notify them of any symptoms. the judge said an in-house quash teen is not necessary to protect the pb. >> the three points that he is still recommending that i abide by, are three points that i believe is part of this good compromise that we can make. i have been compliant with the direct active monitoring that the c.d.c. recommends. i will continue to be compliant. >> reporter: hickox retur
this is kaci hickox taking a walk today with her boyfriend. hickox returned to maine after treating ebola patients in west africa. she's symptom-free, but the governor wanted her barred from public places. vinita nair has her reaction. >> reporter: kaci hickox stepped out of her home feeling vindicated by today's ruling. >> i am humbled today by the judge's decision. >> reporter: on thursday night, the judge issued a temporary order restricting her movements. today, he...
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hickox says her ebola tests have come back negative--twice. governor christie told fox news sunday he has no second thoughts. : "it was my conclusion we need to do this to protect the public health of people of new jersey. dr anthony fauci of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases questions the states' mandatory quarantines. : "people who are not ill, who don't have symptoms with whom you don't come into contact with body fluids, they are not a threat, they are not going to spread it." he says quarantines could cause american health care workers to rethink trips to west africa. : "we want them to go because they are helping us to protect america by going over there." representative darrell issa blames the federal government for the states' reactions. : "i think governors of both parties are reacting to an absence of leadership and absence of belief that the federal government really does know what they're doing." meanwhile, hickox says she wants to go home to her partner. : "i feel like my basic human rights have been violat
hickox says her ebola tests have come back negative--twice. governor christie told fox news sunday he has no second thoughts. : "it was my conclusion we need to do this to protect the public health of people of new jersey. dr anthony fauci of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases questions the states' mandatory quarantines. : "people who are not ill, who don't have symptoms with whom you don't come into contact with body fluids, they are not a threat, they are not...
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i realize the whereabouts of kaci hickox is news. i realize there's law what the governor is saying. i go back to what we touched on yesterday. the optics a woman who so bravely went to africa to help the people who are truly in need. stuck in her home based on through. yet you have the president of the united states flanked by doctors including yourself at the white house yesterday, some of whom are within that 21 day quarantine. can you please make sense of that for me? >> i wish i could. if you were a martian from outer space looking at this right now you would see two almost completely opposite ways of handling the same situation. i think your instincts and perception is exactly right. look, we're not doing the public any favors here because i think it's confusing them even more because this is what they are seeing. what kaci hickox is talking about and no questions she's being provocative. no question people are getting nervous. don't dismiss those people. they are nervous because they are confused by this and not because they a
i realize the whereabouts of kaci hickox is news. i realize there's law what the governor is saying. i go back to what we touched on yesterday. the optics a woman who so bravely went to africa to help the people who are truly in need. stuck in her home based on through. yet you have the president of the united states flanked by doctors including yourself at the white house yesterday, some of whom are within that 21 day quarantine. can you please make sense of that for me? >> i wish i...
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the factual is according to kaci hickox, she has no signs of ebola. she should take her temperature twice a day, maybe avoid public transit, but there's no need for a quarantine. hickox came out of her home in maine to talk to reporters. >> i completely understand that the state's purpose is to protect the state of main. i have worked in public health for many years and that is my purpose, as well, but we have to make decisions on science and i am completely healthy. you could hug me, shake my hand. there is no way that i would give you ebola. >> hickox believe that is her quarantine is unconstitutional. the state of maine said this is a reasonable measure to protect public health. you can bet this will end in court and will be ultimately up to a judge to decide. >> one small glimmer of hope. the w.h.o. saying the infection rate in liberia is starting to go down. what else are they saying about the current situation in west africa? >> we haven't heard many optimistic statements out of the w.h.o. on this but hear that they believe in liberia, the harde
the factual is according to kaci hickox, she has no signs of ebola. she should take her temperature twice a day, maybe avoid public transit, but there's no need for a quarantine. hickox came out of her home in maine to talk to reporters. >> i completely understand that the state's purpose is to protect the state of main. i have worked in public health for many years and that is my purpose, as well, but we have to make decisions on science and i am completely healthy. you could hug me,...
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late today the state of maine deciding to seek a court order to try to force kaci hickox to make sure she stays inside of her home. it comes just hours after she appeared on a pair of national television shows suggesting her rights are being violated arguing she's not a threat to public safety and she's not going to do what they want her to do. listen. >> you know, i don't plan on sticking to the guidelines. i remain appalled by these home quarantine policies that have been forced upon me even though i am in perfectly good health. >> you have the joints chiefs of staff recommending to the department of defense that troops, u.s. troops coming home from ebola fighting missions in west africa, be quarantined for 21 days. why is it so abhorrentnjnÑ to yo put yourself in that very same position? >> you know, i truly believe that this policy is not scientifically nor constitutionally just. and so i am not going to sit around and be bullied by politicians and force today stay in my home when i am not a risk to the american public. >> you have to remember that just a couple days earlier dr.
late today the state of maine deciding to seek a court order to try to force kaci hickox to make sure she stays inside of her home. it comes just hours after she appeared on a pair of national television shows suggesting her rights are being violated arguing she's not a threat to public safety and she's not going to do what they want her to do. listen. >> you know, i don't plan on sticking to the guidelines. i remain appalled by these home quarantine policies that have been forced upon me...
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there's the case of kaci hickox. we asked josh earnest during that briefing if the white house agrees with her confinement in a tent, whether or not it violated her rights, the white house did not offer an opinion on that. josh earnest only said that her service should be respected and putting her in a tent does not do that. >> we'll stand by if, in fact, they will be announcing this hodgepodge policy. jim acosta we'll be looking for that reporting at the white house in a bit. at the same time all of this happening today, the family of this 5-year-old child is anxiously awaiting to see if their little boy will be the next ebola patient here in the united states. we're live for you this afternoon at bellevue hospital where doctors are treating the boy and hoping this is a false alarm, that this is not the fifth case of ebola we've stein u.s. we're learning about they aroic actions of a young teacher in washington state. what she did when she heard those gun shots ring out in that cafeteria that could have saved studen
there's the case of kaci hickox. we asked josh earnest during that briefing if the white house agrees with her confinement in a tent, whether or not it violated her rights, the white house did not offer an opinion on that. josh earnest only said that her service should be respected and putting her in a tent does not do that. >> we'll stand by if, in fact, they will be announcing this hodgepodge policy. jim acosta we'll be looking for that reporting at the white house in a bit. at the same...
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tracey hickox case got a lot of attention. in the next few minutes we'll be taking a closer look at other headlines over ebola concerns. today, dozens of army soldiers and their general are being isolated at a base in italy after serving in west africa to help with the ebola fight. and a new york child is being monitored for ebola now. the number of ebola cases reaching a grim milestone. let's begin with nbc 10's cydney long live in newark where that nurse was released from the hospital just a short time ago. sydney, this case sparked debate about how to treat those who have been in the ebola hot zone in west africa. >> reporter: well, jim, it certainly has. that debate is not just happening here in the garden state but across the nation as well. just last night, that patient who returned from sierra leone, the nurse, hickox, planned with her attorney to sue the state of new jersey, saying her constitutional rights had been violated. hickox, you remember, did present a slight fever on friday night coming into newark liberty ai
tracey hickox case got a lot of attention. in the next few minutes we'll be taking a closer look at other headlines over ebola concerns. today, dozens of army soldiers and their general are being isolated at a base in italy after serving in west africa to help with the ebola fight. and a new york child is being monitored for ebola now. the number of ebola cases reaching a grim milestone. let's begin with nbc 10's cydney long live in newark where that nurse was released from the hospital just a...
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they think they can keep kaci hickox confined. let's listen to the nurse's reaction to understand the state of play. >> we have been in negotiations all day with the state of maine. and tried to resolve this amicably. but they will not allow me to leave my house and have any interaction with the public. even though i am completely healthy and symptom-free. i am frustrated by this fact and i have been told that the attorney general's intention is to file legal action against me. and if this does occur, then i will challenge those legal actions. >> all right. so that's the nurse. let's bring in congressman tim murphy. he is the chairman of the house subcommittee on oversight and investigations. he is calling for a mandatory 21-day quarantine for any health care worker who treats ebola patients and then returns to the u.s. congressman, thank you for joining us this morning. to test the situation. do you have the legal right federal? no, but state, yes. is it right to do? that's the question. why is this the right thing to do when sci
they think they can keep kaci hickox confined. let's listen to the nurse's reaction to understand the state of play. >> we have been in negotiations all day with the state of maine. and tried to resolve this amicably. but they will not allow me to leave my house and have any interaction with the public. even though i am completely healthy and symptom-free. i am frustrated by this fact and i have been told that the attorney general's intention is to file legal action against me. and if...
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>> hickox says she doesn't see a reason to stay home. the state doesn't seem to unction why. >> staying at home for the duration of this 21-day period, november 10th being the the last day, does not seem like a burdensome request. >> they say they collapsed over proposed guidelines to allow her to leave her house but out of public places. he says he'll take legal action if necessary to protect public safety. let's put it this way. i'm going to use the legal provisions to the the fullest extent that the law allows me. i just hope she recognizes that. >> hickox went one round with new jersey governor chris christie who quarantined her in a tent at newark university hospital. she tested negative for ebola twice. and says she has no symptoms. back in maine she isn't standing down. >> i believe i'm fighting for something much more than myself. there are so many aid workers coming back. it scares me to think how they will be treated. >> james lives down the treat from kaci hickox. it's a small town. the population is 4,000. thank you for takin
>> hickox says she doesn't see a reason to stay home. the state doesn't seem to unction why. >> staying at home for the duration of this 21-day period, november 10th being the the last day, does not seem like a burdensome request. >> they say they collapsed over proposed guidelines to allow her to leave her house but out of public places. he says he'll take legal action if necessary to protect public safety. let's put it this way. i'm going to use the legal provisions to the...
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joining me now is an attorney for kaci hickox, steve hyman. can we start at the beginning. >> start wherever you want. >> this photo, you took that -- >> i took that photo. i suddenly have a new career. >> instantly iconic: when she arrives in newark, to the best of your knowledge, how did this go down? i'm imagine something kind of public health miranda moment where they take you and say you have the right to remain silent but -- >> they didn't tell her anything. as i understand it. they removed her to a separate cubicle where they started to interrogate and ask her to remain, and then the moved her to a room where they took her temperature with laser measurerrer -- >> those things we see in the airport -- >> right, which we now know is unreliable. >> or not -- nowhere near as accurate as the more standard way of doing it. >> correct. as i understand it, the first time they took her temperature it was normal. she was ven kept -- then kept there, interrogated told she couldn't leave and people were coming in and asking her questions, and then
joining me now is an attorney for kaci hickox, steve hyman. can we start at the beginning. >> start wherever you want. >> this photo, you took that -- >> i took that photo. i suddenly have a new career. >> instantly iconic: when she arrives in newark, to the best of your knowledge, how did this go down? i'm imagine something kind of public health miranda moment where they take you and say you have the right to remain silent but -- >> they didn't tell her anything....
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and paul, you have this lawyer for kaci hickox saying we won. that is what he said. do you see this as a complete victor your. >> the lawyers like to say they won, but in reading the judge's decision i think he got half of the loaf of bread. because although the judge said he wasn't going to impose a quarentine in the sense she would have to stay in her home, the judge did say she would remain under court order to continue to be monitored to see whether she develops a fever or other symptoms of ebola. so she's still under the jurisdiction of maine, she's still being followed pursuant to the law. so i would say the judge gave a little bit to both sides. >> and even kaci hickox did call it a compromise so maybe that is a tipoff to where they ended. dr. walks, when you look at this as a test case for the country, we're seeing this perhaps -- this could apply to other places, the states here, they have the right to create their own public health policies but should they and should the state courts have this rule, do you think? >> as a former state health officer, i can s
and paul, you have this lawyer for kaci hickox saying we won. that is what he said. do you see this as a complete victor your. >> the lawyers like to say they won, but in reading the judge's decision i think he got half of the loaf of bread. because although the judge said he wasn't going to impose a quarentine in the sense she would have to stay in her home, the judge did say she would remain under court order to continue to be monitored to see whether she develops a fever or other...
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and this nurse kaci hickox is now paying for that. she's at home in maine. she's received a lot of criticism. can you blame people for their reaction? >> again, carol, we can't make decisions based on fear, we have to make decisions based on scientific evidence. what we've now seen -- we've now received information that over a two-week period in october this year 807 people have come back in by planes through airports from west africa, those three countries in west africa. of those 807, 46 were health care workers. of those 46 -- some of those people i know personally -- we have been using for years and years and years when we deal with highly infectious diseases like ebola, we control the movement. and now in the last 24 hours we've seen the new cdc guidelines come out with controlled movement. we're seeing a lot more collaboration now between state departments of health, public health, so at the state department level we're seeing people talk between the different states. i think that's very good news and so, again, the last 24 hours, lots of things have c
and this nurse kaci hickox is now paying for that. she's at home in maine. she's received a lot of criticism. can you blame people for their reaction? >> again, carol, we can't make decisions based on fear, we have to make decisions based on scientific evidence. what we've now seen -- we've now received information that over a two-week period in october this year 807 people have come back in by planes through airports from west africa, those three countries in west africa. of those 807,...
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one of kaci hickox attorneys, steven highman is here with me in new york. the state is going to court to mandate she be quarantined. is she going to fight that? >> yes. there is no way to fight it right now. this is ex-parte at the moment. they are going to a judge saying whatever they are saying. i have seen no papers. no papers have been served on casey. this is all within the domain of the government of maine to do what they think they are supposed to do. >> now, there are state troopers outside her house. if she tries to leave, for instance, if she tries to leave that place, will they arrest her? >> i don't know what the order is going to say. i don't know what the circumstances will be. but it is clear that the troopers are not there to protect kaci. >> they say, the governor of maine says, she has been uncooperative and not adhering to state and federal health protocols. is that right? >> that is completely wrong. that is so far from the facts. kaci, who knows what the standards are, and who knows what is to be done, has abided by them. she tests hers
one of kaci hickox attorneys, steven highman is here with me in new york. the state is going to court to mandate she be quarantined. is she going to fight that? >> yes. there is no way to fight it right now. this is ex-parte at the moment. they are going to a judge saying whatever they are saying. i have seen no papers. no papers have been served on casey. this is all within the domain of the government of maine to do what they think they are supposed to do. >> now, there are state...
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so does kaci hickox fall into the cdc'scategory? >> she would fall into a category of risk below that, some risk category. people at higher risk have almost a more known exposure, up to something like a prick of the skin with a needle, that may have ebola in it. she'd be in the some risk category which basically means she'd take her temperature twice a day, not the mandatory quarantine. my understanding is now in maine she'll have a voluntary quarantine which she's going to be doing. >> you've heard the maine state representative say that his constituents are confused about these new guidelines, the new jersey governor chris christie is coming out against those guidelines. listen to what he told the "today" show this morning. >> the fact is that the cdc has been imkremtallist on this. the newest guidance from my perspective is incredibly confusing. by the way what's the difference with someone considered to be high risk. you don't want them on public transportation and gatherings and want them to work from home. that sounds like qua
so does kaci hickox fall into the cdc'scategory? >> she would fall into a category of risk below that, some risk category. people at higher risk have almost a more known exposure, up to something like a prick of the skin with a needle, that may have ebola in it. she'd be in the some risk category which basically means she'd take her temperature twice a day, not the mandatory quarantine. my understanding is now in maine she'll have a voluntary quarantine which she's going to be doing....
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hickox to findc her quarantined -- kaci hickox defied her quarantine and went on a bike ride with her boyfriend. she said she is trying to reach a solution with state officials who want her to stay in isolation for another 12 days. myi am not willing to let rights be further violated when it is not science-based. returned to the u.s. after treating ebola patients in sierra leone last week. she has shown no symptoms and has tested negative for the virus twice. still, the governor says the only way to resolve this is for her to be tested again. have a risktime you of spreading ebola is when you are releasing body fluid. i do not know what a blood test does. >> despite insisting that hickox does not pose a risk to the community, the governor said that this state trooper outside of her home is there for her own safety. he says that people there are scared and angry. >> people are concerned about her attitude. >> more fears in connecticut where a child who was healthy was told not to come to school because she had recently thanled to nigeria, more 1000 miles away from the center of the ebo
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one of those workers is nurse kaci hickox. new jersey put her in isolation last week because of a temperature that spiked at the airport. then it went back down. she hasn't had one since, but hickox was eventually allowed to go home but asked to stay inside. but, as you'll see, she's been going out. here's cnn. >> kaci hickox went for a bike ride with her boyfriend and they were followed by police all the time. the governor at maine is clearly at odds with the hickox's take on the quarantine policy. he says police only followed her to try to protect her. >> we just wanted to enjoy this beautiful day. >> kaci hickox is trying to make a point. >> there's no legal action against me. i'm free to go on a bike ride in my hometown. >> the nurse who is supposed to be quarantined left her house today, surrounded by cameras. her lawyer calling the ride, a good way to exercise her right. >> there's absolutely no justification for the state of maine to quarantine kaci. >> the governor of maine is not amused. >> i don't want her within thr
one of those workers is nurse kaci hickox. new jersey put her in isolation last week because of a temperature that spiked at the airport. then it went back down. she hasn't had one since, but hickox was eventually allowed to go home but asked to stay inside. but, as you'll see, she's been going out. here's cnn. >> kaci hickox went for a bike ride with her boyfriend and they were followed by police all the time. the governor at maine is clearly at odds with the hickox's take on the...
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cas kaci hickox. the governor says he'll use the law to the full extent. >> i'll use the legal provisions to the fullest exfent that the law allows me. i hope she recognises that. we have 1.3 million we need to protect. we have to protect the entire state. >> effort are being made to keep hickox out of areas. she is essentially under house arrest for 21 days. it was a morning bike ride seen across the country. nurse hickox openly defying an order. >> with her boyfriend by they are side, hickox travelled along a road. >> we are waiting to hear from the state of main as to what they'll do. i hope we can "negotiations. thank you, i have to speak with the health department. >> hick cox was kept in isolation. officials say she had a minor fever. hickox contested quarantine and threatened legal action. chris christie allowed hickox to return to main. hickox maintained isolation is unnecessary. she has no symptoms and tested negative for ebola. >> i realise the government has to protect the state of main. i
cas kaci hickox. the governor says he'll use the law to the full extent. >> i'll use the legal provisions to the fullest exfent that the law allows me. i hope she recognises that. we have 1.3 million we need to protect. we have to protect the entire state. >> effort are being made to keep hickox out of areas. she is essentially under house arrest for 21 days. it was a morning bike ride seen across the country. nurse hickox openly defying an order. >> with her boyfriend by they...
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kaci hickox says she may go back to africa to fight ebola. but hickox says she will stay home tonight and celebrate the court ruling by watching a halloween movie. >> fallout over the ebola crisis could impact the health care in our region, nurses at providence hospital in d.c. are planning to go on strike. the hospital's 400 nurses will walk off the job on november 12th for 24 hours, they tell us providence has not fully prepared them to handle the ebola threat or handle the protective equipment. >> we have some training and orientation, but we are not adequately shown how to put on and take off this gear. >> the nurse's union is negotiating a first-time contract with providence hospital. news 4's kristen wright will have more on the reaction at 5:00. >>> and dallas nurse, nina pham's long-awaited reunion with her dog, bentley, will take place soon. she says the first thing she wanted to do was see her beloved spaniel. bentley has tested negative for ebola, but his 21-day quarantine doesn't officially end until tomorrow. doctors have asked h
kaci hickox says she may go back to africa to fight ebola. but hickox says she will stay home tonight and celebrate the court ruling by watching a halloween movie. >> fallout over the ebola crisis could impact the health care in our region, nurses at providence hospital in d.c. are planning to go on strike. the hospital's 400 nurses will walk off the job on november 12th for 24 hours, they tell us providence has not fully prepared them to handle the ebola threat or handle the protective...
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does this mean no more bike rides for kaci hickox? >> hello, everyone, happy friday, happy halloween, i'm john berman. >> i get nothing to be happy about. i'm happy enough to be sitting beside you, john berman. i'm michaela pereira. we're down to the wire. four days left until election day. just four days until the day that decides who controls the senate. this could determine a key part of the president's legacy. huge stakes. so where is the president today? is he in a state with the key senate race that hangs in the balance? well, there are ten states with races that are super close so is the president campaigning in any of those ten states? no. >> no! he is in rhode island. so blue it's more like navy or cobalt. which is bluer? >> cobalt. >> it's a cobalt state. his speech, which starts any minute, is on the economy which is always important but, again, where is where he is giving it, rhode island, and when, four days before the election shows how toxic he has become for some democratic candidates in these close races. >> republica
does this mean no more bike rides for kaci hickox? >> hello, everyone, happy friday, happy halloween, i'm john berman. >> i get nothing to be happy about. i'm happy enough to be sitting beside you, john berman. i'm michaela pereira. we're down to the wire. four days left until election day. just four days until the day that decides who controls the senate. this could determine a key part of the president's legacy. huge stakes. so where is the president today? is he in a state with...