joining me now, morgan stanley superior vice president, jim camp and andy brenner. i'm going to throw it to you. the big question here is did powell do the right thing by saying there is not going to be a rate hike as our next move, even though, and we'll hear this coming up, our own edward lawrence pushed them saying we're at 3% inflation. how do i get down to 2% without tightening rates one more time. i don't want to be there but the dove in wolves' clothing was evident and the marketplace was 70% certain and going to be hawkish and going to raise rates on the first claim of rational to ease rates and he will and a bull flattening to now a bull steeping and when it opens tomorrow, i think we'll get our real move and for now we saw five years better and one point by 12 basis points and now probably as you said better by six or seven. liz: cycle through some of the charts and i don't care what they are, the vicks or oil. by the way it's really markettedly retrenched and some is the inventory numbers and commodity prices coming down on all this. bring in jim lear la